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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 18, 2017 11:51:11 GMT -5
Is it to late for the Red Sox to send the White Sox Castillo and just tell them it's Moncada. You think they'll notice?
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 11:52:26 GMT -5
Is it to late for the Red Sox to send the White Sox Castillo and just tell them it's Moncada. You think they'll notice? Watch and Learn Cashman work his magic |
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Post by Smuck on Jan 18, 2017 11:53:17 GMT -5
Is it to late for the Red Sox to send the White Sox Castillo and just tell them it's Moncada. You think they'll notice? It would work until May. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 18, 2017 11:55:12 GMT -5
Is it to late for the Red Sox to send the White Sox Castillo and just tell them it's Moncada. You think they'll notice? Watch and Learn Cashman work his magic He's already dropped the ball twice. For the price EE or Bautista went for, either one should have been in pinstripes. Dombo probably dropped the ball on that too, but it should be a close shave with the luxury tax threshold. |
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Post by OXlodge on Jan 18, 2017 11:58:29 GMT -5
Watch and Learn Cashman work his magic He's already dropped the ball twice. For the price EE or Bautista went for, either one should have been in pinstripes. Dombo probably dropped the ball on that too, but it should be a close shave with the luxury tax threshold. The Yankees decided to go with Matt Holliday for 5 million dollars cheaper. Were him and Bautista that far off in production between them last season? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 11:59:52 GMT -5
Watch and Learn Cashman work his magic He's already dropped the ball twice. For the price EE or Bautista went for, either one should have been in pinstripes. Dombo probably dropped the ball on that too, but it should be a close shave with the luxury tax threshold. Next winter I think they will be more aggressive on the EE types....Batista, man that guy just must be hated so much, that he gets a one year deal at the age of 36 or 37
Not like a great year is gonna earn him that 5 year deal
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 12:00:45 GMT -5
He's already dropped the ball twice. For the price EE or Bautista went for, either one should have been in pinstripes. Dombo probably dropped the ball on that too, but it should be a close shave with the luxury tax threshold. The Yankees decided to go with Matt Holliday for 5 million dollars cheaper. Were him and Bautista that far off in production between them last season? And don't forget the timing
No one thought Batista was gonna get this deal, about a month and a half ago
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Post by Harry Crack on Jan 18, 2017 12:02:32 GMT -5
Watch and Learn Cashman work his magic He's already dropped the ball twice. For the price EE or Bautista went for, either one should have been in pinstripes. Dombo probably dropped the ball on that too, but it should be a close shave with the luxury tax threshold. EE signed elsewhere for what the Jays offerred him , Ego Bautista got basically zero offers and is coming back for a super short deal which he said he never would............. ego can be a bitch |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 18, 2017 12:03:34 GMT -5
He's already dropped the ball twice. For the price EE or Bautista went for, either one should have been in pinstripes. Dombo probably dropped the ball on that too, but it should be a close shave with the luxury tax threshold. The Yankees decided to go with Matt Holliday for 5 million dollars cheaper. Were him and Bautista that far off in production between them last season? Not too much. But Holliday is a few years removed from being an elite threat at the plate. Bautista was there in 2015. probably a good risk to take for a team that is going over the luxury tax anyway. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 18, 2017 12:05:12 GMT -5
The Yankees decided to go with Matt Holliday for 5 million dollars cheaper. Were him and Bautista that far off in production between them last season? And don't forget the timing
No one thought Batista was gonna get this deal, about a month and a half ago
Really surprised that both he and EE didn't get more. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 18, 2017 12:06:44 GMT -5
Who was it that said they didn't sign Bautista because the fans hate him? Duquette? Thought that was just PR speak, but maybe he was on to something.
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 12:07:12 GMT -5
And don't forget the timing
No one thought Batista was gonna get this deal, about a month and a half ago
Really surprised that both he and EE didn't get more. Especially EE Batista, if 18 million could ever seem embarrassing I guess it is |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 12:18:06 GMT -5
He's already dropped the ball twice. For the price EE or Bautista went for, either one should have been in pinstripes. Dombo probably dropped the ball on that too, but it should be a close shave with the luxury tax threshold. The Yankees decided to go with Matt Holliday for 5 million dollars cheaper. Were him and Bautista that far off in production between them last season? its about a 35 pt difference in OPS |
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 12:25:31 GMT -5
The Yankees decided to go with Matt Holliday for 5 million dollars cheaper. Were him and Bautista that far off in production between them last season? its about a 35 pt difference in OPS only because Bautista was hurt and bad last year, his OPS dropped about 100 points off what he had been doing in previous years........Holliday's OPS has been low because he has been hurt and bad...period. That is who he is now. Maybe DH will help him a little but he hasn't produced like a good player since 2013, and seeing as he 37, I don't see a major turnaround. Where I could see it with Bautista. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 12:26:18 GMT -5
its about a 35 pt difference in OPS only because Bautista was hurt and bad last year, his OPS dropped about 100 points off what he had been doing in previous years........Holliday's OPS has been low because he has been hurt and bad...period. That is who he is now. Maybe DH will help him a little but he hasn't produced like a good player since 2013, and seeing as he 37, I don't see a major turnaround. Where I could see it with Bautista. Because Batista is 37 |
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Post by OXlodge on Jan 18, 2017 12:26:51 GMT -5
The Yankees decided to go with Matt Holliday for 5 million dollars cheaper. Were him and Bautista that far off in production between them last season? its about a 35 pt difference in OPS Do we play the ball parks that they hit in as a factor? Or just throw that out the window? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 12:32:12 GMT -5
its about a 35 pt difference in OPS only because Bautista was hurt and bad last year, his OPS dropped about 100 points off what he had been doing in previous years........Holliday's OPS has been low because he has been hurt and bad...period. That is who he is now. Maybe DH will help him a little but he hasn't produced like a good player since 2013, and seeing as he 37, I don't see a major turnaround. Where I could see it with Bautista. holliday...not what he once ws, but then again we all arent. why was he an all star in 2015? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 12:33:06 GMT -5
its about a 35 pt difference in OPS Do we play the ball parks that they hit in as a factor? Or just throw that out the window? ok. bautistas OPS+ was 10 pts higher. does that work? |
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Post by OXlodge on Jan 18, 2017 12:34:05 GMT -5
Do we play the ball parks that they hit in as a factor? Or just throw that out the window? ok. bautistas OPS+ was 10 pts higher. does that work? Sure does. So really not too bad for 5 million less really. |
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 12:38:04 GMT -5
only because Bautista was hurt and bad last year, his OPS dropped about 100 points off what he had been doing in previous years........Holliday's OPS has been low because he has been hurt and bad...period. That is who he is now. Maybe DH will help him a little but he hasn't produced like a good player since 2013, and seeing as he 37, I don't see a major turnaround. Where I could see it with Bautista. Because Batista is 37 will play next season at age 36. and because he hit 40 and drove in 114 in 2015 then was banged up a lot of last year. If he is healthy, he SHOULD do better than last year...
whereas Holliday IS 37...and got hurt last year for a month and a half, but hadn't done much before that when he was healthy....and out for over a month on 2 different occasions the year before....
like I said, maybe DH can keep him healthy, but I saw him last year quite a bit, not the same hitter he was 4-5 years ago. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 18, 2017 12:38:37 GMT -5
ok. bautistas OPS+ was 10 pts higher. does that work? Sure does. So really not too bad for 5 million less really. Yeah, cept as Lemi said, I think there's a good chance Bautista bounces back. Much less likely with Holliday given recent trends. What is cashman doing signing a right handed hitter anyway? I thought the motto was lefties, lefties, and more lefties. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 12:39:16 GMT -5
ok. bautistas OPS+ was 10 pts higher. does that work? Sure does. So really not too bad for 5 million less really. i dunno. holliday hasnt had a top 10 MVP finish since 2007. bautista has done that 4 of the last 6 years. |
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 12:39:57 GMT -5
only because Bautista was hurt and bad last year, his OPS dropped about 100 points off what he had been doing in previous years........Holliday's OPS has been low because he has been hurt and bad...period. That is who he is now. Maybe DH will help him a little but he hasn't produced like a good player since 2013, and seeing as he 37, I don't see a major turnaround. Where I could see it with Bautista. holliday...not what he once ws, but then again we all arent. why was he an all star in 2015? because he slugged .410? what power! |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 12:40:06 GMT -5
will play next season at age 36. and because he hit 40 and drove in 114 in 2015 then was banged up a lot of last year. If he is healthy, he SHOULD do better than last year...
whereas Holliday IS 37...and got hurt last year for a month and a half, but hadn't done much before that when he was healthy....and out for over a month on 2 different occasions the year before....
like I said, maybe DH can keep him healthy, but I saw him last year quite a bit, not the same hitter he was 4-5 years ago. I kinda agree....Yankees wanted a RH bat at DH, and a veteran mixed in what should be a bunch of young guys in the middle of that lineup...........Batista would have filled that bill, but I don't think anyone saw this type of deal coming for Batista, about a month ago |
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 12:41:16 GMT -5
holliday...not what he once ws, but then again we all arent. why was he an all star in 2015? because he slugged .410? what power! and he had 3 HRs at the break....how could he NOT be an all star. |
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 12:53:53 GMT -5
Is it to late for the Red Sox to send the White Sox Castillo and just tell them it's Moncada. You think they'll notice? saw one of those yahoo headlines.....Kopech hits 110mph...
then I look at it and its at some workout facility...and he is crowhopping and throwing into a net 10 ft away, and some clown with a tiny hand held Walmart radar device shows 110.
wasted 3 minutes of my life.......and now 1 more making this post.
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 12:56:28 GMT -5
Is it to late for the Red Sox to send the White Sox Castillo and just tell them it's Moncada. You think they'll notice? saw one of those yahoo headlines.....Kopech hits 110mph...
then I look at it and its at some workout facility...and he is crowhopping and throwing into a net 10 ft away, and some clown with a tiny hand held Walmart radar device shows 110.
wasted 3 minutes of my life.......and now 1 more making this post.
Is Yoan Igawa Moncada on the opening day roster? |
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Post by Chappion on Jan 18, 2017 13:20:41 GMT -5
Is it to late for the Red Sox to send the White Sox Castillo and just tell them it's Moncada. You think they'll notice? saw one of those yahoo headlines.....Kopech hits 110mph...
then I look at it and its at some workout facility...and he is crowhopping and throwing into a net 10 ft away, and some clown with a tiny hand held Walmart radar device shows 110.
wasted 3 minutes of my life.......and now 1 more making this post.
He definitely throws hard, but is far from a finished product. He's also been a bit of a headcase. They sold high on him after he was unhittable in the AFL. |
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Post by Chappion on Jan 18, 2017 13:23:38 GMT -5
saw one of those yahoo headlines.....Kopech hits 110mph...
then I look at it and its at some workout facility...and he is crowhopping and throwing into a net 10 ft away, and some clown with a tiny hand held Walmart radar device shows 110.
wasted 3 minutes of my life.......and now 1 more making this post.
Is Yoan Igawa Moncada on the opening day roster? It's actually Yoan Profar Moncada! Get with the times, man!! |
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 13:43:03 GMT -5
saw one of those yahoo headlines.....Kopech hits 110mph...
then I look at it and its at some workout facility...and he is crowhopping and throwing into a net 10 ft away, and some clown with a tiny hand held Walmart radar device shows 110.
wasted 3 minutes of my life.......and now 1 more making this post.
He definitely throws hard, but is far from a finished product. He's also been a bit of a headcase. They sold high on him after he was unhittable in the AFL. Cooper has done well with some of those guys......Repeatable mechanics is his main point of emphasis, and helping guys get there...As fucked up as Sale's motion is, its the same every time.
Kopech, Giolito & Lopez all need work in this area. Hopefully he can get 2 of those 3, because with their stuff, they are all ace potential.
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