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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 30, 2017 18:26:01 GMT -5
There are a number of guys that have 'it' in A ball.....those guys go to AA, and some retain 'it' and some don't. I know all about Gleyber......might be talking about him in the Lindor, Seager, Correa, Russell, Bogaerts etc....best young SSs in the game category in 2 years.......or, we may find out that he is going to be a talented defensive SS that hasn't been able to hit high level pitching consistently. All those guys you mentioned were talked about the same way Gleyber is now, at the same, or earlier levels as was Byron Buxton... |
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 30, 2017 18:27:38 GMT -5
There are a number of guys that have 'it' in A ball.....those guys go to AA, and some retain 'it' and some don't. I know all about Gleyber......might be talking about him in the Lindor, Seager, Correa, Russell, Bogaerts etc....best young SSs in the game category in 2 years.......or, we may find out that he is going to be a talented defensive SS that hasn't been able to hit high level pitching consistently. All those guys you mentioned were talked about the same way Gleyber is now, at the same, or earlier levels and people didn't start paying SERIOUS attention to them until they took the 'it' they had in A ball, and 'it' translated to the higher levels. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 30, 2017 18:28:08 GMT -5
All those guys you mentioned were talked about the same way Gleyber is now, at the same, or earlier levels as was Byron Buxton... Byron Buxton finally emerged late last season But I get your point |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 30, 2017 18:28:52 GMT -5
All those guys you mentioned were talked about the same way Gleyber is now, at the same, or earlier levels and people didn't start paying SERIOUS attention to them until they took the 'it' they had in A ball, and 'it' translated to the higher levels. We will see Winning the AFL MVP isn't a bad start |
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Post by MoonDriven on Jan 30, 2017 18:28:57 GMT -5
This post made "it" go 6 to midnight There are a number of guys that have 'it' in A ball.....those guys go to AA, and some retain 'it' and some don't. I know all about Gleyber......might be talking about him in the Lindor, Seager, Correa, Russell, Bogaerts etc....best young SSs in the game category in 2 years.......or, we may find out that he is going to be a talented defensive SS that hasn't been able to hit high level pitching consistently. We get it. Chicago has a baseball team |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 30, 2017 18:29:37 GMT -5
There are a number of guys that have 'it' in A ball.....those guys go to AA, and some retain 'it' and some don't. I know all about Gleyber......might be talking about him in the Lindor, Seager, Correa, Russell, Bogaerts etc....best young SSs in the game category in 2 years.......or, we may find out that he is going to be a talented defensive SS that hasn't been able to hit high level pitching consistently. We get it. Chicago has a baseball team Lmfao |
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 30, 2017 19:06:26 GMT -5
Alls i know is that Cashman built a top 3 farm. In less than 3 weeks.
Pretty amazing, even for #Money
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 30, 2017 19:10:29 GMT -5
Alls i know is that Cashman built a top 3 farm. In less than 3 weeks. Pretty amazing, even for #Money about to be #4 once the whitesox make one more move..... |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 2, 2017 11:33:30 GMT -5
I know #selfyork and all, but this is a joke, right? Half Joking
Half Serious
The entire pitching staff is the serious part
Excuse me, but isn't Adam Warren the best pitcher developed by the Yankees over the last decade? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 11:37:28 GMT -5
Half Joking
Half Serious
The entire pitching staff is the serious part
Excuse me, but isn't Adam Warren the best pitcher developed by the Yankees over the last decade? Youre excused, you haven't been around here to be told daily how the "Red Sox do it the right way, the Yankees do it the wrong way"
Bullshit, the Red Sox are the Yankees, minus the dynasty
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Feb 2, 2017 11:37:41 GMT -5
Half Joking
Half Serious
The entire pitching staff is the serious part
Excuse me, but isn't Adam Warren the best pitcher developed by the Yankees over the last decade? That's the clue for today's Wheel of Fortune puzzle. See if you can figure it out. Cashman d_es _t a_a_n! |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 11:39:33 GMT -5
Excuse me, but isn't Adam Warren the best pitcher developed by the Yankees over the last decade? That's the clue for today's Wheel of Fortune puzzle. See if you can figure it out. Cashman d_es _t a_a_n! Nothing makes me smile as much as how much the master bothers you |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 2, 2017 11:41:27 GMT -5
I know #selfyork and all, but this is a joke, right? Half Joking
Half Serious
The entire pitching staff is the serious part
David Price is the only one who was simply bought and paid for. Home grown Red Sox players and Red Sox prospects were the prices paid for acquiring both Sale and Porcello. They traded prospects for Sale They traded Lester for Cespedes for Porcello They shouldn't lose credit for developing the assets that they flipped for Porcello and Sale. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 11:44:09 GMT -5
Half Joking
Half Serious
The entire pitching staff is the serious part
David Price is the only one who was simply bought and paid for. Home grown Red Sox players and Red Sox prospects were the prices paid for acquiring both Sale and Porcello. They traded prospects for Sale They traded Lester for Cespedes for Porcello They shouldn't lose credit for developing the assets that they flipped for Porcello and Sale. They developed none of them
They acquired Sale by trading a minor leaguer they paid $60 million for
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Post by Chappion on Feb 2, 2017 11:44:38 GMT -5
Excuse me, but isn't Adam Warren the best pitcher developed by the Yankees over the last decade? Youre excused, you haven't been around here to be told daily how the "Red Sox do it the right way, the Yankees do it the wrong way"
Bullshit, the Red Sox are the Yankees, minus the dynasty
Yup. The Yankees and the Red Sox function the same way over the last 15 years, or so, since John Henry bought the team. The Sox have just had more success. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 11:45:54 GMT -5
Youre excused, you haven't been around here to be told daily how the "Red Sox do it the right way, the Yankees do it the wrong way"
Bullshit, the Red Sox are the Yankees, minus the dynasty
Yup. The Yankees and the Red Sox function the same way over the last 15 years, or so, since John Henry bought the team. The Sox have just had more success. What a sensational addition you have been to this board |
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Post by billythekid on Feb 2, 2017 11:52:15 GMT -5
"The Redsox didn't really start really trying to place real baseball until 2004"
EVERY REDSOX FAN
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 2, 2017 11:53:23 GMT -5
David Price is the only one who was simply bought and paid for. Home grown Red Sox players and Red Sox prospects were the prices paid for acquiring both Sale and Porcello. They traded prospects for Sale They traded Lester for Cespedes for Porcello They shouldn't lose credit for developing the assets that they flipped for Porcello and Sale. They developed none of them
They acquired Sale by trading a minor leaguer they paid $60 million for
they paid 60 mil for the Moncada?.......hmmm.....the whitesox will only be paying him 500K-600K for the next 3 years........
Thanks Redsox!
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 2, 2017 11:56:59 GMT -5
David Price is the only one who was simply bought and paid for. Home grown Red Sox players and Red Sox prospects were the prices paid for acquiring both Sale and Porcello. They traded prospects for Sale They traded Lester for Cespedes for Porcello They shouldn't lose credit for developing the assets that they flipped for Porcello and Sale. They developed none of them
They acquired Sale by trading a minor leaguer they paid $60 million for
So Cashman simply could have paid $60 million for Chris Sale and didn't do it? Pomeranz, Porcello and Sale are all products of the Red Sox fruits of their farm system. Fact, not opinion. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 12:00:15 GMT -5
They developed none of them
They acquired Sale by trading a minor leaguer they paid $60 million for
they paid 60 mil for the Moncada?.......hmmm.....the whitesox will only be paying him 500K-600K for the next 3 years........
Thanks Redsox!
Maybe more, I think $32 million was the winning blind bid, than a huge contract on top of that |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 12:02:19 GMT -5
They developed none of them
They acquired Sale by trading a minor leaguer they paid $60 million for
So Cashman simply could have paid $60 million for Chris Sale and didn't do it? Pomeranz, Porcello and Sale are all products of the Red Sox fruits of their farm system. Fact, not opinion. keep moving those goal posts kid
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 2, 2017 12:09:25 GMT -5
So Cashman simply could have paid $60 million for Chris Sale and didn't do it? Pomeranz, Porcello and Sale are all products of the Red Sox fruits of their farm system. Fact, not opinion. keep moving those goal posts kid
LOL... "they developed none of them" Actually, they developed every single one of them. Every Single One Sure, they paid for Moncada. And then developed him into the #1 prospect in baseball. Don't argue inalienable truths. They are self-evident. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 12:11:41 GMT -5
keep moving those goal posts kid
LOL... "they developed none of them" Actually, they developed every single one of them. Every Single One Sure, they paid for Moncada. And then developed him into the #1 prospect in baseball. Don't argue inalienable truths. They are self-evident. I miss the good old days when you'd give us the Red Sox roster and tell us how many of those guys came through the System, and compare it to the Yankee roster Shoe Meet Other foot |
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 2, 2017 12:17:16 GMT -5
they paid 60 mil for the Moncada?.......hmmm.....the whitesox will only be paying him 500K-600K for the next 3 years........
Thanks Redsox!
Maybe more, I think $32 million was the winning blind bid, than a huge contract on top of that I think it was a 30+ Mil posting fee......and then a 31.5 Mil signing bonus.......that was it. Then he just makes his money subject to the rules everyone else has(service time, major league minimum...club control for 6 years....etc.)
whitesox can pay him the min. until he is arb eligible....
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 12:18:44 GMT -5
Maybe more, I think $32 million was the winning blind bid, than a huge contract on top of that I think it was a 30+ Mil posting fee......and then a 31.5 Mil signing bonus.......that was it. Then he just makes his money subject to the rules everyone else has(service time, major league minimum...club control for 6 years....etc.)
whitesox can pay him the min. until he is arb eligible....
Gotcha. Figured it was in the 60 range total |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Feb 2, 2017 12:20:25 GMT -5
LOL... "they developed none of them" Actually, they developed every single one of them. Every Single One Sure, they paid for Moncada. And then developed him into the #1 prospect in baseball. Don't argue inalienable truths. They are self-evident. I miss the good old days when you'd give us the Red Sox roster and tell us how many of those guys came through the System, and compare it to the Yankee roster Shoe Meet Other foot Entire starting outfield = system 2nd base = system SS = system 1st = 1/2 system (he started there) We have the best system, don't we folks? Tremendous system. Trust me. Big League. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 2, 2017 12:21:12 GMT -5
LOL... "they developed none of them" Actually, they developed every single one of them. Every Single One Sure, they paid for Moncada. And then developed him into the #1 prospect in baseball. Don't argue inalienable truths. They are self-evident. I miss the good old days when you'd give us the Red Sox roster and tell us how many of those guys came through the System, and compare it to the Yankee roster Shoe Meet Other foot I don't even know what that means. All I've ever said was that the Red Sox aren't carbon copies of the Yankees. For as much as the Red Sox spend, and it's been a lot. The Yankees have still literally outspent them by over a billion dollars in the past 20 years. Not only could I point at the Yankees roster and say "who are the home-grown equivalents of Lester, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Betts, Bogaerts, Bradley, Rizzo, etc.." Not only could I point that out? But I could talk about how the Yankees have overpaid and over-extended for guys that came from the Red Sox org. Boomstick is my favorite. One more time, so you are clear. Nobody is saying the Red Sox don't spend a ton of money. They just don't spend nearly what the Yankees do, and the money they spend is not the sole way they've built their roster over the past 15 years. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Feb 2, 2017 12:25:25 GMT -5
I miss the good old days when you'd give us the Red Sox roster and tell us how many of those guys came through the System, and compare it to the Yankee roster Shoe Meet Other foot I don't even know what that means. All I've ever said was that the Red Sox aren't carbon copies of the Yankees. For as much as the Red Sox spend, and it's been a lot. The Yankees have still literally outspent them by over a billion dollars in the past 20 years. Not only could I point at the Yankees roster and say "who are the home-grown equivalents of Lester, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Betts, Bogaerts, Bradley, Rizzo, etc.." Not only could I point that out? But I could talk about how the Yankees have overpaid and over-extended for guys that came from the Red Sox org. Boomstick is my favorite. One more time, so you are clear. Nobody is saying the Red Sox don't spend a ton of money. They just don't spend nearly what the Yankees do, and the money they spend is not the sole way they've built their roster over the past 15 years. They operate exactly how the Yankees used to |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 2, 2017 12:25:35 GMT -5
I think it was a 30+ Mil posting fee......and then a 31.5 Mil signing bonus.......that was it. Then he just makes his money subject to the rules everyone else has(service time, major league minimum...club control for 6 years....etc.)
whitesox can pay him the min. until he is arb eligible....
Gotcha. Figured it was in the 60 range total It is. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 2, 2017 12:26:32 GMT -5
I don't even know what that means. All I've ever said was that the Red Sox aren't carbon copies of the Yankees. For as much as the Red Sox spend, and it's been a lot. The Yankees have still literally outspent them by over a billion dollars in the past 20 years. Not only could I point at the Yankees roster and say "who are the home-grown equivalents of Lester, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Betts, Bogaerts, Bradley, Rizzo, etc.." Not only could I point that out? But I could talk about how the Yankees have overpaid and over-extended for guys that came from the Red Sox org. Boomstick is my favorite. One more time, so you are clear. Nobody is saying the Red Sox don't spend a ton of money. They just don't spend nearly what the Yankees do, and the money they spend is not the sole way they've built their roster over the past 15 years. They operate exactly how the Yankees used to no they dont |
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