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Post by OXlodge on Nov 14, 2014 11:58:14 GMT -5
I see the Phillies signed Jeff Francoeur. Why? I mean, I like the guy, but why would Philly want him? To get worse? |
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Post by BHR on Nov 14, 2014 11:59:07 GMT -5
I see the Phillies signed Jeff Francoeur. Why? I mean, I like the guy, but why would Philly want him? Cheap ass minor league deal. He will never see the liberty bell |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:00:25 GMT -5
That's exactly why the Astros want Robertson. They have two excellent young pitchers and a couple more who are solid end of the rotation types. They need someone reliable to hand the ball off to in late innings. Robertson could be as much as a 5-6 game swing for the Astros. I like the Astros thinking, but I do wonder if when they are truly a legit competitor with all their young talent, if Robertson will be closer to the end of a 4 year deal I think the Astros could be a .500 team as soon as next year. They are loaded with young talent. Texas is washed up. Seattle and Los Angeles are spending their money on gray hairs. Astros and Oakland could own West by 2016. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:01:33 GMT -5
I see the Phillies signed Jeff Francoeur. Why? I mean, I like the guy, but why would Philly want him? Cheap ass minor league deal. He will never see the liberty bell I'm glad somebody signed him. I always liked the guy. AAA ball is better than what I do for a living, working 2 jobs and all. At least he'll get to travel. lol |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 14, 2014 12:03:39 GMT -5
Cheap ass minor league deal. He will never see the liberty bell I'm glad somebody signed him. I always liked the guy. AAA ball is better than what I do for a living, working 2 jobs and all. At least he'll get to travel. lol cool guy, shitty major leaguer |
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Post by The Bag on Nov 14, 2014 12:04:43 GMT -5
I see the Phillies signed Jeff Francoeur. Why? I mean, I like the guy, but why would Philly want him? he his .083 in 11 games last year. jesus. . . . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:06:03 GMT -5
I'm glad somebody signed him. I always liked the guy. AAA ball is better than what I do for a living, working 2 jobs and all. At least he'll get to travel. lol cool guy, shitty major leaguer Yeah. He was okay for a while there. The Phillies also picked up Xavier Paul & Chase d'Arnaud, signed to minor league contracts. I guess the Phils are scraping the bottom of the barrel over there in Lehigh Valley. |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 15:48:40 GMT -5
Hope he never sold his house in Pittsburg...
Last offseason A.J. Burnett left the Pirates for the Phillies, but after a rough season in Philadelphia he’s going back to Pittsburgh.
Burnett has signed a one-year deal with the Pirates worth $8.5 million, which is significantly less than the $12.75 million player option he declined to leave the Phillies. (The Phils gave him $ 15 mil last year )
Burnett had a fantastic two-season run for the Pirates in 2012/2013, starting 61 games with a 3.41 ERA and 389 strikeouts in 393 innings, but he went 8-18 with a 4.59 ERA in 34 starts for the Phillies.
At age 38 he’s certainly no sure thing to bounce back, but for $8.5 million and a one-year commitment a reunion with Burnett makes a lot of sense for a Pirates rotation that may lose free agents Francisco Liriano and Edinson Volquez.
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 14, 2014 15:53:21 GMT -5
Hope he never sold his house in Pittsburg... Last offseason A.J. Burnett left the Pirates for the Phillies, but after a rough season in Philadelphia he’s going back to Pittsburgh. Burnett has signed a one-year deal with the Pirates worth $8.5 million, which is significantly less than the $12.75 million player option he declined to leave the Phillies. (The Phils gave him $ 15 mil last year ) Burnett had a fantastic two-season run for the Pirates in 2012/2013, starting 61 games with a 3.41 ERA and 389 strikeouts in 393 innings, but he went 8-18 with a 4.59 ERA in 34 starts for the Phillies. At age 38 he’s certainly no sure thing to bounce back, but for $8.5 million and a one-year commitment a reunion with Burnett makes a lot of sense for a Pirates rotation that may lose free agents Francisco Liriano and Edinson Volquez. I read a piece in which it stated if you compare production to finances, AJ Burnett has been the most overpaid professional baseball player in the history of the game |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 16:03:46 GMT -5
Hope he never sold his house in Pittsburg... Last offseason A.J. Burnett left the Pirates for the Phillies, but after a rough season in Philadelphia he’s going back to Pittsburgh. Burnett has signed a one-year deal with the Pirates worth $8.5 million, which is significantly less than the $12.75 million player option he declined to leave the Phillies. (The Phils gave him $ 15 mil last year ) Burnett had a fantastic two-season run for the Pirates in 2012/2013, starting 61 games with a 3.41 ERA and 389 strikeouts in 393 innings, but he went 8-18 with a 4.59 ERA in 34 starts for the Phillies. At age 38 he’s certainly no sure thing to bounce back, but for $8.5 million and a one-year commitment a reunion with Burnett makes a lot of sense for a Pirates rotation that may lose free agents Francisco Liriano and Edinson Volquez. I read a piece in which it stated if you compare production to finances, AJ Burnett has been the most overpaid professional baseball player in the history of the game $ 135,771,500 for 16 years, a 155-150 w/l record ( .508 win pct ), and a 4.04 e.r.a. Not the best bang for the buck, to be sure. |
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Post by Chappion on Nov 14, 2014 16:05:01 GMT -5
Hope he never sold his house in Pittsburg... Last offseason A.J. Burnett left the Pirates for the Phillies, but after a rough season in Philadelphia he’s going back to Pittsburgh. Burnett has signed a one-year deal with the Pirates worth $8.5 million, which is significantly less than the $12.75 million player option he declined to leave the Phillies. (The Phils gave him $ 15 mil last year ) Burnett had a fantastic two-season run for the Pirates in 2012/2013, starting 61 games with a 3.41 ERA and 389 strikeouts in 393 innings, but he went 8-18 with a 4.59 ERA in 34 starts for the Phillies. At age 38 he’s certainly no sure thing to bounce back, but for $8.5 million and a one-year commitment a reunion with Burnett makes a lot of sense for a Pirates rotation that may lose free agents Francisco Liriano and Edinson Volquez. I read a piece in which it stated if you compare production to finances, AJ Burnett has been the most overpaid professional baseball player in the history of the game That just doesn't sound right. Compare him to, say, Mike Hampton?? Burnett has been pretty damn good overall. I would think that even Josh Beckett might be a bigger waste overall. |
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Post by Chappion on Nov 14, 2014 16:10:15 GMT -5
I read a piece in which it stated if you compare production to finances, AJ Burnett has been the most overpaid professional baseball player in the history of the game $ 135,771,500 for 16 years, a 155-150 w/l record ( .508 win pct ), and a 4.04 e.r.a. Not the best bang for the buck, to be sure. Can you do Mike Hampton and maybe Beckett?? |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 16:16:59 GMT -5
$ 135,771,500 for 16 years, a 155-150 w/l record ( .508 win pct ), and a 4.04 e.r.a. Not the best bang for the buck, to be sure. Can you do Mike Hampton and maybe Beckett?? Beckett - 14 years. 138-106 w/l ( .566 win pct ) 3.88 era. $ 116,465,624. Hampton 16 years 148-115 w/l ( .563 win pct ) 4.06 era. $ 124,550,270. |
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Post by Chappion on Nov 14, 2014 16:18:19 GMT -5
Can you do Mike Hampton and maybe Beckett?? Beckett - 14 years. 138-106 w/l ( .566 win pct ) 3.88 era. $ 116,465,624. Hampton 16 years 148-115 w/l ( .563 win pct ) 4.06 era. $ 124,550,270. Thx Big D. Hampton was better than I remembered. |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 16:20:10 GMT -5
Beckett - 14 years. 138-106 w/l ( .566 win pct ) 3.88 era. $ 116,465,624. Hampton 16 years 148-115 w/l ( .563 win pct ) 4.06 era. $ 124,550,270. Thx Big D. Hampton was better than I remembered. One great year, and a handful of good ones. |
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Post by BHR on Nov 14, 2014 16:37:04 GMT -5
aw...tigers told Torii Hunter to go fuck himself
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 16:38:19 GMT -5
Don't let the door hit ya..............
Torii Hunter made it clear that he wanted to stay in Detroit, at one point saying he’d retire if the Tigers didn’t want him back. He’s mellowed on that stance, opening himself up to other teams, which is good because today Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski all but ruled out a reunion.
Dombrowski told Jason Beck of MLB.com:
We probably won’t re-sign Torii. I called Torii and his representative today and told them that.
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 14, 2014 16:50:07 GMT -5
aw...tigers told Torii Hunter to go fuck himself I always liked his game....plays hard, good D....pretty good at everything..... probably getting a little old to be useful. |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 16:54:04 GMT -5
aw...tigers told Torii Hunter to go fuck himself I always liked his game....plays hard, good D....pretty good at everything..... probably getting a little old to be useful. A good fit for a team that needs a platoon. And, not a L / R type of platoon, but 2 guys to share D.H & right field duties, with Torii now doing the bulk of the DHing |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 16:58:00 GMT -5
Bye Dan. Nice knowing ya
Dodgers veteran starter Dan Haren's name has surfaced in trade talks, but it might be interesting to see if he accepts a trade.
While Haren, a Los Angeles area native, doesn't have a no-trade clause, league sources suggest they've heard Haren might be inclined to walk away from baseball if he's traded anywhere besides the Angels. Haren picked up his $10 million player option to go back to the Dodgers, his hometown team.
There would be plenty of interest in Haren -- who is 142-122 lifetime with a 3.77 ERA -- as several teams are looking for a starting pitcher.
The Dodgers are considering just about everything, including lowering their record $240 million payroll, though that isn't definite.
It would be unusual for anyone to retire due to a trade, especially anyone who's only 34 and productive, but it isn't unprecedented.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 14, 2014 17:01:34 GMT -5
aw...tigers told Torii Hunter to go fuck himself I always liked his game....plays hard, good D....pretty good at everything..... probably getting a little old to be useful. might be a good platoon partner at DH becoming a little less than useless defensively |
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 14, 2014 17:09:42 GMT -5
I always liked his game....plays hard, good D....pretty good at everything..... probably getting a little old to be useful. might be a good platoon partner at DH becoming a little less than useless defensively whitesox need a bat.........a DH or LF........its OK if he is old, but Hunter probably isnt it. |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 17:10:57 GMT -5
I always liked his game....plays hard, good D....pretty good at everything..... probably getting a little old to be useful. might be a good platoon partner at DH becoming a little less than useless defensively Great minds............ |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 14, 2014 17:12:14 GMT -5
might be a good platoon partner at DH becoming a little less than useless defensively whitesox need a bat.........a DH or LF........its OK if he is old, but Hunter probably isnt it. go get butler |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 17:14:40 GMT -5
whitesox need a bat.........a DH or LF........its OK if he is old, but Hunter probably isnt it. go get butler As long as it is not last years model...... I don't see a fit in Chicago myself, as Abreu can do everything Butler does, and much better, while playing the same spots |
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 14, 2014 17:15:49 GMT -5
whitesox need a bat.........a DH or LF........its OK if he is old, but Hunter probably isnt it. go get butler Can we get the Butler from a couple of years ago? what happened to him? he's only 28 |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 14, 2014 17:16:07 GMT -5
As long as it is not last years model...... I don't see a fit in Chicago myself, as Abreu can do everything Butler does, and much better, while playing the same spots butler wont kill you at 1b ned just hated him its a proven fact he hits much better when he plays 1b |
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 14, 2014 17:18:44 GMT -5
As long as it is not last years model...... I don't see a fit in Chicago myself, as Abreu can do everything Butler does, and much better, while playing the same spots whitesox need a DH or LF (or both...and move Viciedo......) the need a #3 or #4 starter......and one or 2 bullpen arms... they are pretty set everywhere else. got their Chris Sale part II coming up next year.... |
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 14, 2014 17:19:48 GMT -5
As long as it is not last years model...... I don't see a fit in Chicago myself, as Abreu can do everything Butler does, and much better, while playing the same spots butler wont kill you at 1b ned just hated him its a proven fact he hits much better when he plays 1b Abreu is there to stay |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 17:21:02 GMT -5
As long as it is not last years model...... I don't see a fit in Chicago myself, as Abreu can do everything Butler does, and much better, while playing the same spots butler wont kill you at 1b ned just hated him its a proven fact he hits much better when he plays 1b Not that I doubted, but I checked just the same. And, bug surprise, you are right. He does do better. Not a ton better, but still, better. However, I still don't see a good fit there with the White Sox. I think that if the Orioles lose Cruz, then he will be in Baltimore, as he would be a good fit there. |
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