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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 13, 2014 16:44:13 GMT -5
Interesting list...............Jorge Soler has the potential to be the most club friendly deal we have seen in a long time...They locked up Rizzo to a similar club friendly deal And Rizzo sure looks legit. And, stupid me was not sold on him coming into last year. DOH!! Think the Players Union wasn't thrilled with the Rizzo deal For his production and market rate, it is like silly great for the Cubs |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 13, 2014 16:44:43 GMT -5
Interesting list...............Jorge Soler has the potential to be the most club friendly deal we have seen in a long time...They locked up Rizzo to a similar club friendly deal Chris Sale has a ridiculously club friendly deal....... Really? Whats that? I mean, he is probably no worse than Top 3 in the game |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 13, 2014 16:45:58 GMT -5
Chris Sale has a ridiculously club friendly deal....... Really? Whats that? I mean, he is probably no worse than Top 3 in the game Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options •5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options •signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 •replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 •13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) •2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 •award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection •1 year (2012) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 3/4/12 •1 year/$0.425M (2011) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 2/11 •1 year/$0.4M (2010) •contract purchased by Chicago White Sox 8/4/10 •drafted by Chicago White Sox 2010 (1-13) (Florida Gulf Coast) •signed 6/21/10, $1.656M signing bonus •ML service: 4.061 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 16:46:29 GMT -5
i posted some scouting reports on Tomas a couple of days ago........ I would be VERY careful throwing more than 25 mil at him...... Here is a list of Cuban signings in the last 6 years..........they seem to not miss on the studs......the top 5 are so far so good.......the rest of the list......not so much and consensus is that Tomas is a 'rest of the list' guy 1B Jose Abreu/CHW, 6yrs/$68M OF Yasiel Puig/LA, 7yrs/$42M OF Yoenis Cespedes/OAK, 4yrs/$36M LHP Aroldis Chapman/CIN, 6yrs/$30M OF Jorge Soler/CHC, 9yrs/$30M 2B Alexander Guerrero/LA, 4yrs/$28M SS Erisbel Arruebarruena/LA, 5yrs/$25M OF Leonys Martin/TEX, 5yrs/$15M RHP Miguel Gonzalez/PHI, 3yrs/$12M SS Adeiny Hechevarria/TOR, 4yrs/$10M OF Dayan Viciedo/CHW, 4yrs/$10M SS Jose Iglesias/BOS, 4yrs/$8M 2B Aledmys Diaz/STL, 4yrs/$8M Doesn't really account for the inflation of the Market though. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 13, 2014 16:48:02 GMT -5
Really? Whats that? I mean, he is probably no worse than Top 3 in the game Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options •5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options •signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 •replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 •13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) •2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 •award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection •1 year (2012) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 3/4/12 •1 year/$0.425M (2011) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 2/11 •1 year/$0.4M (2010) •contract purchased by Chicago White Sox 8/4/10 •drafted by Chicago White Sox 2010 (1-13) (Florida Gulf Coast) •signed 6/21/10, $1.656M signing bonus •ML service: 4.061 Oooook And the countdown to "Chris Sale unhappy with his contract: begins Now! |
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 13, 2014 16:56:06 GMT -5
You can add Soler to that list in about 10 months...... I was almost going to add him now...... But, let's see how the league adjusts to him before we make any decisions. yup...... just saw a list of 2015 top prospects........ 4 cubs in the top 12 |
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 13, 2014 17:00:51 GMT -5
Kris Bryant
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Seen by many as the best pure hitter in the 2013 draft class, San Diego's Kris Bryant is a polished college prospect who looks like a quality middle of the order bat. In Chicago, he'll get a long look at third base and even...
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Carlos Correa
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With the first pick of the 2012 Draft, Houston showed a commitment to a strong future with the surprise selection of teenage phenom Carlos Correa, a natural shortstop who impressed scouts with a superior work ethic and five...
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Corey Seager
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The younger sibling of Seattle's Kyle, young Corey Seager is a similar infielder with bat speed that might actually be better than his big brother's. At the very least, scouts aren't taking the Seager name for granted,...
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Addison Russell
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The Cubs farm, circa late 2014, might be the richest farm system of the last decade. A Florida prep infielder with a plus power bat and better than average speed, shortstop Addison Russell will probably grow out of the...
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Byron Buxton
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Georgia's Byron Buxton, the second overall pick of the 2012 Draft, is a speedy outfielder who might be the best overall offensive prospect in baseball today. With a natural base-stealing ability and plus speed in the...
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Taijuan Walker
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The Mariners' first round pick in 2010, righthander Taijuan Walker looks like a number one starter on almost any MLB team. On the Mariners, that probably makes him a number three. (This team's pitching depth is just plain...
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Jonathan Gray
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Seen by many as the best pitching prospect of the 2013 draft class, Oklahoma's Jonathan Gray is a towering righthander with high-90's heat that breaks 100mph from time to time. More often, he throws it at 94 or 95 with good...
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Dylan Bundy
RHP
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The younger of Baltimore's Bouncing Baby Bundies, the growly-looking Dylan is a righthander with ace upside, but he remains relatively untested against pro hitters, and under professional pressure. His ungodly 0.25 ERA and...
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Francisco Lindor
SS
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A high-school shortstop from Puerto Rico with a live bat and a great batting eye from both sides of the plate, Cleveland's Franky Lindor is a young and talented all-around player who shows signs of all five major league...
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Javier Baez
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A nominal shortstop, Puerto Rican mini-Cub Javier Baez also looks just fine at second and third. With one of the highest overall upsides of any position player in baseball, there's really no question he'll end up an...
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Archie Bradley
RHP
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The classic all-promise righthander, Arizona's Archie Bradley is a potentially-outstanding pitcher who's only a changeup short of a major league career very, very soon. Of course, that's the pitching equivalent of a hitter...
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Jorge Soler
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A tall and lanky teenager who arrived in the DR in the winter of 2011, outfielder Jorge Soler is one of the most promising Cuban prospects in baseball today. He's already shown off his tools in Dominica, and while he looks...
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 13, 2014 17:02:30 GMT -5
Tomas was listed at #85
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:41:49 GMT -5
Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options •5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options •signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 •replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 •13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) •2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 •award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection •1 year (2012) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 3/4/12 •1 year/$0.425M (2011) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 2/11 •1 year/$0.4M (2010) •contract purchased by Chicago White Sox 8/4/10 •drafted by Chicago White Sox 2010 (1-13) (Florida Gulf Coast) •signed 6/21/10, $1.656M signing bonus •ML service: 4.061 Oooook And the countdown to "Chris Sale unhappy with his contract: begins Now! "Agreed" - Madison Bumgarner |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 13, 2014 18:52:44 GMT -5
Oooook And the countdown to "Chris Sale unhappy with his contract: begins Now! "Agreed" - Madison Bumgarner Madison Bumgarner lhp 5 years/$35M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options •5 years/$35M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options •signed extension with San Francisco 4/17/12 •$1M signing bonus •13:$0.75M, 14:$3.75M, 15:$6.75M, 16:$9.75M, 17:$11.5M, 18:$12M club option ($1.5M buyout), 19:$12M club option •2018 option guaranteed with 200 IP in 2017 or 400 IP in 2016-17 •options increase to $14M with top 3 finish in Cy Young vote 2012-17 or to $16M with Cy Young award 2012-17 •award bonuses, including $25,000 for All-Star selection •limited no-trade protection (may block deals to eight clubs) •1 year/$0.56M (2012) •re-signed by San Francisco 3/9/12 •1 year/$0.45M (2011) •renewed by San Francisco 3/11 •1 year (2010) •re-signed by San Francisco 3/10 •1 year (2009) •contract purchased by San Francisco 9/8/09 •drafted by San Francisco 2007 (1-10) (South Caldwell HS, Hudson, NC) •signed 8/15/07, $2M signing bonus •agent: Mike Milchen •ML service: 4.127 |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 13, 2014 19:15:02 GMT -5
orioles closing in on a 4 year megabucks deal for Markakis Not a huge fan of that as a yankee fan, you should be thrilled |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 13, 2014 19:23:48 GMT -5
Really? Whats that? I mean, he is probably no worse than Top 3 in the game Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options •5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options •signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 •replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 •13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) •2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 •award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection •1 year (2012) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 3/4/12 •1 year/$0.425M (2011) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 2/11 •1 year/$0.4M (2010) •contract purchased by Chicago White Sox 8/4/10 •drafted by Chicago White Sox 2010 (1-13) (Florida Gulf Coast) •signed 6/21/10, $1.656M signing bonus •ML service: 4.061 here's one - Salvador Perez 5 years/$7M (2012-16), plus 2017-19 club options signed extension with Kansas City 2/27/12 12:$0.75M, 13:$1M, 14:$1.5M, 15:$1.75M, 16:$2M, 17:$3.75M club option, 18:$5M club option, 19:$6M club option award bonuses, including $50,000 for All-Star selection 2017-19 salaries may increase by additional $5M overall based on performance and awards in 2012-16 (earns bonuses by reaching 4 points, with 1 point each for All-Star selection, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, top 15 in MVP vote) has earned one point each for 2013 All-Star selection, 2013 Gold Glove and 2014 All-Star selection |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 13, 2014 19:32:02 GMT -5
Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options •5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options •signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 •replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 •13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) •2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 •award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection •1 year (2012) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 3/4/12 •1 year/$0.425M (2011) •re-signed by Chicago White Sox 2/11 •1 year/$0.4M (2010) •contract purchased by Chicago White Sox 8/4/10 •drafted by Chicago White Sox 2010 (1-13) (Florida Gulf Coast) •signed 6/21/10, $1.656M signing bonus •ML service: 4.061 here's one - Salvador Perez 5 years/$7M (2012-16), plus 2017-19 club options signed extension with Kansas City 2/27/12 12:$0.75M, 13:$1M, 14:$1.5M, 15:$1.75M, 16:$2M, 17:$3.75M club option, 18:$5M club option, 19:$6M club option award bonuses, including $50,000 for All-Star selection 2017-19 salaries may increase by additional $5M overall based on performance and awards in 2012-16 (earns bonuses by reaching 4 points, with 1 point each for All-Star selection, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, top 15 in MVP vote) has earned one point each for 2013 All-Star selection, 2013 Gold Glove and 2014 All-Star selection ALERT - All I am hearing about him right now has to do with how he is really worn down, with all the extra ball he played this year, and continues to play in the Japan series. He is young though, and should bounce back. Should. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 13, 2014 19:36:04 GMT -5
here's one - Salvador Perez 5 years/$7M (2012-16), plus 2017-19 club options signed extension with Kansas City 2/27/12 12:$0.75M, 13:$1M, 14:$1.5M, 15:$1.75M, 16:$2M, 17:$3.75M club option, 18:$5M club option, 19:$6M club option award bonuses, including $50,000 for All-Star selection 2017-19 salaries may increase by additional $5M overall based on performance and awards in 2012-16 (earns bonuses by reaching 4 points, with 1 point each for All-Star selection, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, top 15 in MVP vote) has earned one point each for 2013 All-Star selection, 2013 Gold Glove and 2014 All-Star selection ALERT - All I am hearing about him right now has to do with how he is really worn down, with all the extra ball he played this year, and continues to play in the Japan series. He is young though, and should bounce back. Should. Yeah, he needs to take a few months off, but I bet he plays winter ball too |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 13, 2014 21:01:05 GMT -5
Nationals shortstop Ian Desmond rejected a seven-year, $107 million contract extension last offseason, multiple sources told The Washington Post.
The deal would have included the two-year, $17.5 million deal Desmond signed in January to avoid arbitration, meaning Desmond would have made $89.5 million over five would-be free agent seasons. The contract would have also included deferred money, decreasing its true value.
One industry source told The Post that Desmond would receive far more than $90 million over five seasons, if he became a free agent after 2015 with one more average campaign. In April 2013, Rangers shortstop Elvis Andrus signed an eight-year, $120 million contract extension.
Desmond is expected to resume contract talks with the Nationals this offseason.
"There have been a lot of people that have come through this game that have sacrificed a lot for us, the players that are coming through now," Desmond said in March. "I don't want to sign a deal -- and this isn't to say they've offered me this -- but I don't want to sign a deal that is so bad that a future shortstop gets screwed because I signed a terrible deal. I'm not going to be that guy, that kink in the chain. I'm going to get a fair deal, or I'm just going to wait.
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Post by mrpickles on Nov 14, 2014 8:17:28 GMT -5
Felipe Alou pushing hard for the Giants to sign Yasmani Tomas
I guess that means hes good again
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Post by BHR on Nov 14, 2014 10:47:51 GMT -5
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Post by BHR on Nov 14, 2014 10:49:13 GMT -5
will the astros sign David Robertson? and why? could they ever get him in a position to pitch?
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Post by bigddude on Nov 14, 2014 10:51:32 GMT -5
will the astros sign David Robertson? and why? could they ever get him in a position to pitch? By your questions to your question, you have your answer. That being no. Having an upper tier closer would be nice, but, it is not one of the top 5 needs they have, so.... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 14, 2014 10:55:54 GMT -5
will the astros sign David Robertson? and why? could they ever get him in a position to pitch? Is that a rumor? I think the Cubs makes a lotta sense |
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Post by BHR on Nov 14, 2014 11:28:13 GMT -5
will the astros sign David Robertson? and why? could they ever get him in a position to pitch? Is that a rumor? I think the Cubs makes a lotta sense hardballtalk.com says the Astros will go after him hard |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 14, 2014 11:47:49 GMT -5
if he wants to win, he would be foolish to not want to sign with the best team in the AL. The Mariners are quietly in on Lester. There is a rumor floating around that Seattle will trade Michael Saunders and Tijuan Walker to Atlanta for Justin Upton, who recently took Seattle off of his no trade list. The second phase of this scenario would be to give big bucks to one of the FA pitchers. Lester makes the most sense since he is a local guy but I think they like Shields too. I thought Vmart was ideal for Seattle, but if they cant bolster the offense, they should add Lester or Scherzer, and just pitch the living shit out of teams |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 11:52:27 GMT -5
The Mariners are quietly in on Lester. There is a rumor floating around that Seattle will trade Michael Saunders and Tijuan Walker to Atlanta for Justin Upton, who recently took Seattle off of his no trade list. The second phase of this scenario would be to give big bucks to one of the FA pitchers. Lester makes the most sense since he is a local guy but I think they like Shields too. I thought Vmart was ideal for Seattle, but if they cant bolster the offense, they should add Lester or Scherzer, and just pitch the living shit out of teams That's exactly why the Astros want Robertson. They have two excellent young pitchers and a couple more who are solid end of the rotation types. They need someone reliable to hand the ball off to in late innings. Robertson could be as much as a 5-6 game swing for the Astros. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 14, 2014 11:52:45 GMT -5
Baltimore serious about AJ Burnett
That's gotta be the cheapest organization ever
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Post by OXlodge on Nov 14, 2014 11:54:24 GMT -5
Baltimore serious about AJ Burnett That's gotta be the cheapest organization ever Don't think they will nickel and dime their way to the postseason twice in 2 years They have enough talent, and the AL East is garbage anyway. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 14, 2014 11:54:51 GMT -5
I thought Vmart was ideal for Seattle, but if they cant bolster the offense, they should add Lester or Scherzer, and just pitch the living shit out of teams That's exactly why the Astros want Robertson. They have two excellent young pitchers and a couple more who are solid end of the rotation types. They need someone reliable to hand the ball off to in late innings. Robertson could be as much as a 5-6 game swing for the Astros. I like the Astros thinking, but I do wonder if when they are truly a legit competitor with all their young talent, if Robertson will be closer to the end of a 4 year deal |
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 14, 2014 11:55:57 GMT -5
Baltimore serious about AJ Burnett That's gotta be the cheapest organization ever Don't think they will nickel and dime their way to the postseason twice in 2 years They have enough talent, and the AL East is garbage anyway. Offensively yes Think it's a lot to ask for a repeat performance out of the Tillmans and Chens and now Burnetts of the world |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 11:57:21 GMT -5
I see the Phillies signed Jeff Francoeur. Why? I mean, I like the guy, but why would Philly want him?
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Post by NEW YORK on Nov 14, 2014 11:57:46 GMT -5
I see the Phillies signed Jeff Francoeur. Why? I mean, I like the guy, but why would Philly want him? Oh boy Does Pickles know? |
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