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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 17:21:10 GMT -5
and that's how we know that you are not paying much attention to the Red Sox lately. He stinks. Simple as that. The whole team does, or Nava's shittiness would be more obvious. since he was called back up after his demotion he hit 310 in the month of June and he had 350 in the month of July. He is young and cost controlled and coming off a fantastic season last year. You want to just throw him away because he had basically 5 awful weeks over a two seasons stretch? It just doesn't make any sense at all dude. |
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Post by Chappion on Aug 7, 2014 17:21:17 GMT -5
Daniel Nava has an OPS of .653 and an OPS+ of 84. I must be missing a lot in the games because that is god-awful.
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Post by redseat on Aug 7, 2014 17:24:37 GMT -5
Daniel Nava has an OPS of .653 and an OPS+ of 84. I must be missing a lot in the games because that is god-awful. MLB average .705 |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 17:25:21 GMT -5
Daniel Nava has an OPS of .653 and an OPS+ of 84. I must be missing a lot in the games because that is god-awful. yes and if you take out the first five weeks of the season those numbers don't look anywhere near that bad. Yes everybody knows he was brutal until he was demoted in the middle of May. Since he has come back up he has been hitting over 300. And he had a red hot July. He is a platoon outfielder man. Nobody is saying the guy is the next Albert Pujols. But you need guys like that on your team. |
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Post by Chappion on Aug 7, 2014 17:25:44 GMT -5
He stinks. Simple as that. The whole team does, or Nava's shittiness would be more obvious. since he was called back up after his demotion he hit 310 in the month of June and he had 350 in the month of July. He is young and cost controlled and coming off a fantastic season last year. You want to just throw him away because he had basically 5 awful weeks over a two seasons stretch? It just doesn't make any sense at all dude. In a year in which Brock Holt was the biggest highlight, the bar has been lowered quite a bit. He's 31(that ain't young) and we've already seen his best. He does nothing really well. No speed. No power. No real position, even. He's probably a decent bench guy and little else. Keeping him around as a starter is a commitment to mediocrity. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 17:25:53 GMT -5
Daniel Nava has an OPS of .653 and an OPS+ of 84. I must be missing a lot in the games because that is god-awful. wRC+: 84 (100 is average) Offensive WAR: -4.3 Defensive WAR: 3.2 (A HUGE improvement over his -18.4 last year) Overall WAR: 0.8 Better than Bogaerts, but yeah. He sucks. www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5450&position=OF |
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Post by Chappion on Aug 7, 2014 17:26:25 GMT -5
Daniel Nava has an OPS of .653 and an OPS+ of 84. I must be missing a lot in the games because that is god-awful. MLB average .705 So he's below-average? Thanks, seat! |
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Post by redseat on Aug 7, 2014 17:28:00 GMT -5
So he's below-average? Thanks, seat! Strictly looking at that number absolutely but he has been hitting what .280-.300 since his return... I'll take that from him. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 17:28:27 GMT -5
since he was called back up after his demotion he hit 310 in the month of June and he had 350 in the month of July. He is young and cost controlled and coming off a fantastic season last year. You want to just throw him away because he had basically 5 awful weeks over a two seasons stretch? It just doesn't make any sense at all dude. In a year in which Brock Holt was the biggest highlight, the bar has been lowered quite a bit. He's 31(that ain't young) and we've already seen his best. He does nothing really well. No speed. No power. No real position, even. He's probably a decent bench guy and little else. Keeping him around as a starter is a commitment to mediocrity. That's actually a good assessment. He's a pretty decent 4th OF and bench bat. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 17:28:49 GMT -5
since he was called back up after his demotion he hit 310 in the month of June and he had 350 in the month of July. He is young and cost controlled and coming off a fantastic season last year. You want to just throw him away because he had basically 5 awful weeks over a two seasons stretch? It just doesn't make any sense at all dude. In a year in which Brock Holt was the biggest highlight, the bar has been lowered quite a bit. He's 31(that ain't young) and we've already seen his best. He does nothing really well. No speed. No power. No real position, even. He's probably a decent bench guy and little else. Keeping him around as a starter is a commitment to mediocrity. Of course he's not a starter. He's never been a starter. But you cannot have a team full of 25 All Stars. And for your fourth outfielder? He's about as good as you can ask for. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 17:29:32 GMT -5
So he's below-average? Thanks, seat! Strictly looking at that number absolutely but he has been hitting what .280-.300 since his return... I'll take that from him. Been hitting .330 since his return... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 17:31:20 GMT -5
LOL! They were just talking about it in the radio. The host admitted he doesn't think it means anything. The speculation is great. All kidding aside, TLR in the dugout is the best thing that could happen to the D-Backs. He wins everywhere. But yeah, I doubt it means anything either. If he really still wanted to manage, I doubt he'd have ever left St. Louis That's the way I see it..but could he be a Don Zimmer..what the hell was he? |
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Post by Chappion on Aug 7, 2014 17:31:24 GMT -5
In a year in which Brock Holt was the biggest highlight, the bar has been lowered quite a bit. He's 31(that ain't young) and we've already seen his best. He does nothing really well. No speed. No power. No real position, even. He's probably a decent bench guy and little else. Keeping him around as a starter is a commitment to mediocrity. Of course he's not a starter. He's never been a starter. But you cannot have a team full of 25 All Stars. And for your fourth outfielder? He's about as good as you can ask for. Ok. We can all agree that he's a 4 outfielder. So, why is he playing every day? Why is Betts being sent down when he needs the MLB at-bats the most? We know what we have with Nava. |
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Post by redseat on Aug 7, 2014 17:32:10 GMT -5
Strictly looking at that number absolutely but he has been hitting what .280-.300 since his return... I'll take that from him. Been hitting .330 since his return... Pretty good right there... I'll take it... I say let him play everyday |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 17:32:43 GMT -5
Of course he's not a starter. He's never been a starter. But you cannot have a team full of 25 All Stars. And for your fourth outfielder? He's about as good as you can ask for. Ok. We can all agree that he's a 4 outfielder. So, why is he playing every day? Why is Betts being sent down when he needs the MLB at-bats the most? We know what we have with Nava. because they want to play every day. And he's not going to play everyday in right field or anywhere in the infield as the roster is currently constructed. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 17:33:38 GMT -5
All kidding aside, TLR in the dugout is the best thing that could happen to the D-Backs. He wins everywhere. But yeah, I doubt it means anything either. If he really still wanted to manage, I doubt he'd have ever left St. Louis That's the way I see it..but could he be a Don Zimmer..what the hell was he? I think Tony the Drunk fancies himself as a front office man now. Wants to build it. Zimmer was always a field guy, and he knew it and enjoyed it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 17:39:51 GMT -5
That's the way I see it..but could he be a Don Zimmer..what the hell was he? I think Tony the Drunk fancies himself as a front office man now. Wants to build it. Zimmer was always a field guy, and he knew it and enjoyed it. Got it. I just figured he could give some good in game advice and be a mentor for Gibby. |
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Post by Chappion on Aug 7, 2014 17:41:06 GMT -5
Been hitting .330 since his return... Pretty good right there... I'll take it... I say let him play everyday No man! We just covered this. When he plays every day, he gets exposed as the shitty player he is. Just like Jonny Gomes. Nava has a role with this team, but I want to see what they have with the kids. Nava's below replacement level routine isn't exciting me. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 17:44:05 GMT -5
Pretty good right there... I'll take it... I say let him play everyday No man! We just covered this. When he plays every day, he gets exposed as the shitty player he is. Just like Jonny Gomes. Nava has a role with this team, but I want to see what they have with the kids. Nava's below replacement level routine isn't exciting me. yeah number does kids can play right field in fenway. Monkey bats is a second baseman. Who might have a future as a center fielder. Going to stick em in right field at fenway park as it freakin kid in say here on top of trying to figure out how to hit me delete pitching try to play in this freakin hell hole |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 18:39:15 GMT -5
Does your team suck? Go to a minor league game and have some fun! ![]() Attachments:
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Post by redseat on Aug 7, 2014 19:37:45 GMT -5
So what... 10 runs tonight for Workman?
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Post by redseat on Aug 7, 2014 19:47:45 GMT -5
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Post by Zig on Aug 7, 2014 20:06:49 GMT -5
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Post by redseat on Aug 8, 2014 8:32:00 GMT -5
In his last 10 starts, including eight with the Red Sox, Lester is 6-0 with a 1.21 ERA.
Meanwhile Jake Peavy has yet to win a game
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 8, 2014 11:49:30 GMT -5
I have to wonder ... with Jimmy Rollins playing much much better now. Is he a prime candidate for a trade with NYY this offseason?
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 8, 2014 11:51:50 GMT -5
I have to wonder ... with Jimmy Rollins playing much much better now. Is he a prime candidate for a trade with NYY this offseason? I hope not Prado was a brilliant move . With potential holes all over the IF next season, awesome 2nd base is locked up Keep an eye on Castro to the Yankees, Baez is fucking real dealish, the anti-Xander |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 11:52:24 GMT -5
I have to wonder ... with Jimmy Rollins playing much much better now. Is he a prime candidate for a trade with NYY this offseason? God i hope the Yankees are that dumb |
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Post by poprocksncoke on Aug 8, 2014 11:53:10 GMT -5
I have to wonder ... with Jimmy Rollins playing much much better now. Is he a prime candidate for a trade with NYY this offseason? I hope not Prado was a brilliant move . With potential holes all over the IF next season, awesome 2nd base is locked up Keep an eye on Castro to the Yankees, Baez is fucking real dealish, the anti-Xander Arod will be manning ss for the yanks next year |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 11:53:26 GMT -5
I have to wonder ... with Jimmy Rollins playing much much better now. Is he a prime candidate for a trade with NYY this offseason? I hope not Prado was a brilliant move . With potential holes all over the IF next season, awesome 2nd base is locked up Keep an eye on Castro to the Yankees, Baez is fucking real dealish, the anti-Xander Cubs fan told me they are trading Castro for Tanaka |
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 8, 2014 11:54:51 GMT -5
I have to wonder ... with Jimmy Rollins playing much much better now. Is he a prime candidate for a trade with NYY this offseason? I hope not Prado was a brilliant move . With potential holes all over the IF next season, awesome 2nd base is locked up Keep an eye on Castro to the Yankees, Baez is fucking real dealish, the anti-Xander well if you could get Castro that would be huge. Just figured Rollins would be realitvely cheap to acquire and him / prado up the middle might be pretty damn good without costing them much at all |
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