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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 10, 2017 12:41:34 GMT -5
A dedicated thread for all the off season goings on
To get things started:
MLB TRADE RUMORS: GIANCARLO STANTON TO PHILLIES OR GIANTS IN MLB TRADE?
They look to be the the main landing spots with potentially STL, but Stanton has stated he wants to play on either coast
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 13:00:03 GMT -5
Just opinion (and thanks for starting the thread!) but he's a great fit in SF even given how that park they play in stifles most HR hitters. He is not "most" home run hitters. That team can't hit its way out of a paper bag as currently constructed. He'd give Buster Posey some needed protection in that lineup (or the "other way around").
Philly would be an even better fit. That club has a lot of room on its current payroll. It is a good power hitter's park. He'd look awesome next to Rhys Hoskins in that batting order.
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 10, 2017 13:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 10, 2017 13:13:33 GMT -5
Just opinion (and thanks for starting the thread!) but he's a great fit in SF even given how that park they play in stifles most HR hitters. He is not "most" home run hitters. That team can't hit its way out of a paper bag as currently constructed. He'd give Buster Posey some needed protection in that lineup (or the "other way around"). Philly would be an even better fit. That club has a lot of room on its current payroll. It is a good power hitter's park. He'd look awesome next to Rhys Hoskins in that batting order. Agreed on both fronts. It seems like both teams have the cash to do it.. Philly seems the most ready as you said they have some young pieces already to put around him. Not sure SF has that, so don't know if it's the smartest move for them. But he could definitely turn that offense around. |
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Post by Zig on Nov 10, 2017 13:26:54 GMT -5
JD Martinez please
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 13:29:08 GMT -5
JD Martinez please Thank You Granted. I can't have him any more, so you guys at the "Pawk" should get him. Besides, I'd love to see him hit 70 home runs over there! |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 13:29:43 GMT -5
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 13:37:59 GMT -5
JD Martinez please Thank You And, I might add that given the number of young star hitters on the Red Sox (up and coming Benintendi, Bogaerts, Mookie, Devers, et al) there is no telling how many runs he could knock in with that supporting cast around him). They have lots of good hitters, they just need a slugger to replace Big Papi. Beginning and end of shopping list. Bring on the pennant. |
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 10, 2017 13:42:13 GMT -5
JD Martinez please Thank You Granted. I can't have him any more, so you guys at the "Pawk" should get him. Besides, I'd love to see him hit 70 home runs over there! Personally, I wouldn't... |
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 10, 2017 13:43:37 GMT -5
Same, haven't really seen that anywhere except one article on the google machine |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 14:20:33 GMT -5
Current free agents from National League Central teams that may be on the move. My opinions as to destination. Jake Arrieta, Cubs - Since career year and Cy Young Award in 2015, diminishing returns have set in. He was still very effective in 2016 but 2017 presented a number of challenges that were mainly a result of injury. IMO the Cubs will NOT reward him since he's trending down. NEW HOME? Yankees, Brewers or Cardinals. NY could use insurance at the top of the rotation due to injury prone Masahiro Tanaka and Michael Pineda. The Brewers are an up and coming team that could use him and afford to pay for him. The Cardinals love to raid the Cubs and the Cubs love to raid the Cardinals. (The Cubs may be the more reluctant "raiders" given how Jason Heyward did not pan out as expected). St. Louis can afford him and needs someone like him with Lance Lynn a free agent. The Cardinals are unlikely to be a suitor to Lynn when they may be able to land Arrieta with 30% more obligation than they would face in the event they took a flyer on Lynn again. All bets are off for him joining the Cards in the event that they trade with Miami for Giancarlo Stanton's huge contract. Wade Davis, Cubs - Has a better shot at staying than Arrieta because there is not much out on the market in terms of proven closers. They may take a stab at Greg Holland. Outstanding regular season included 32 for 33 in save opportunities. Slowed in the playoffs. Team may go another direction as a result of each point, but Holland was hit hard a lot more frequently in the latter part of the season than he was early on. NEW HOME? Cubs or Astros. The Cubs opt for him over Holland. Or the Astros, sick of Ken Giles riding off the rails "shtick" that nearly sabotaged their bid for the World Series win - elect to hire someone that is much more stable. Lance Lynn, Cardinals - He has been solid but not spectacular for them. Not much concrete to say here except that if the Cubs lose Arrieta, they may make a play on Lynn. The Cincinnati Reds could afford to be in on the Jake Arrieta sweepstakes but appear to be not biting, per the article I sourced at the bottom. They have no significant players rostered that are free agents to be. The Pittsburgh Pirates are in a similar situation as a fellow small market team. They have no significant players in free agency. They may make some trades but are unlikely to sign any free agents. www.mlbtraderumors.com/st-louis-cardinalswww.brewcrewball.com/2017/11/2/16600186/mlb-trade-rumors-predicts-a-big-offseason-for-the-milwaukee-brewerswww.redreporter.com/2017/9/20/16338922/the-cincinnati-reds-and-free-agency-a-preview-of-the-2017-18-offseason |
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Post by Zig on Nov 10, 2017 14:22:31 GMT -5
JD Martinez please Thank You And, I might add that given the number of young star hitters on the Red Sox (up and coming Benintendi, Bogaerts, Mookie, Devers, et al) there is no telling how many runs he could knock in with that supporting cast around him). They have lots of good hitters, they just need a slugger to replace Big Papi. Beginning and end of shopping list. Bring on the pennant. True but OF isnt really the issue, 1st base /DH are the biggest needs, if we're sold on Devers at 3B.. Not sure if JD would be happy DH-ing or playing 1st...or would they trade JBJ? Probably a pipe dream but I became a big fan a couple years ago when a trade for him sewed up a fantasy title for me! |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 14:29:03 GMT -5
And, I might add that given the number of young star hitters on the Red Sox (up and coming Benintendi, Bogaerts, Mookie, Devers, et al) there is no telling how many runs he could knock in with that supporting cast around him). They have lots of good hitters, they just need a slugger to replace Big Papi. Beginning and end of shopping list. Bring on the pennant. True but OF isnt really the issue, 1st base /DH are the biggest needs, if we're sold on Devers at 3B.. Not sure if JD would be happy DH-ing or playing 1st...or would they trade JBJ? Probably a pipe dream but I became a big fan a couple years ago when a trade for him sewed up a fantasy title for me! Money could certainly persuade JD to be the DH. He has a good throwing arm, yet has about the poorest range and rating of most all MLB outfielders. Plus he tends to get injured playing defense. He fractured his elbow last season while still in Detroit early in the year tracking down a ball hit into the corner, and was injured playing RF previously in Detroit... He will likely last longer and fare better as a DH, i.m.o. |
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Post by Zig on Nov 10, 2017 14:37:45 GMT -5
True but OF isnt really the issue, 1st base /DH are the biggest needs, if we're sold on Devers at 3B.. Not sure if JD would be happy DH-ing or playing 1st...or would they trade JBJ? Probably a pipe dream but I became a big fan a couple years ago when a trade for him sewed up a fantasy title for me! Money could certainly persuade JD to be the DH. He has a good throwing arm, yet has about the poorest range and rating of most all MLB outfielders. Plus he tends to get injured playing defense. He fractured his elbow last season while still in Detroit early in the year tracking down a ball hit into the corner, and was injured playing RF previously in Detroit... He will likely last longer and fare better as a DH, i.m.o. I'm sold Make it happen MD |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 14:40:07 GMT -5
Money could certainly persuade JD to be the DH. He has a good throwing arm, yet has about the poorest range and rating of most all MLB outfielders. Plus he tends to get injured playing defense. He fractured his elbow last season while still in Detroit early in the year tracking down a ball hit into the corner, and was injured playing RF previously in Detroit... He will likely last longer and fare better as a DH, i.m.o. I'm sold Make it happen MD You better hope DD makes it happen. MD is not going there...  |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 10, 2017 14:53:21 GMT -5
I'll be back Monday with thoughts on NL West Division free agency...
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 10, 2017 15:15:25 GMT -5
Money could certainly persuade JD to be the DH. He has a good throwing arm, yet has about the poorest range and rating of most all MLB outfielders. Plus he tends to get injured playing defense. He fractured his elbow last season while still in Detroit early in the year tracking down a ball hit into the corner, and was injured playing RF previously in Detroit... He will likely last longer and fare better as a DH, i.m.o. I'm sold Make it happen MD I wouldn't trade JBJ to make room for JD, who's already 31. I'd just have him DH and you can slide him into the OF and rotate the others to give them a break or let them DH a game Again, I hope he goes nowhere near Boston... |
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Post by Zig on Nov 10, 2017 15:22:19 GMT -5
I'm sold Make it happen MD I wouldn't trade JBJ to make room for JD, who's already 31. I'd just have him DH and you can slide him into the OF and rotate the others to give them a break or let them DH a game Again, I hope he goes nowhere near Boston... I dont blame ya, he's a monster. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 10, 2017 15:24:06 GMT -5
A dedicated thread for all the off season goings on To get things started: MLB TRADE RUMORS: GIANCARLO STANTON TO PHILLIES OR GIANTS IN MLB TRADE? They look to be the the main landing spots with potentially STL, but Stanton has stated he wants to play on either coast Stanton can opt out after 2020, so they would basically be trading for three years and $77M of him Not sure what kind of return the Marlins can get, considering its possibly only for 3 years. They might have to send some money if they want better prospects. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 10, 2017 15:25:27 GMT -5
And, I might add that given the number of young star hitters on the Red Sox (up and coming Benintendi, Bogaerts, Mookie, Devers, et al) there is no telling how many runs he could knock in with that supporting cast around him). They have lots of good hitters, they just need a slugger to replace Big Papi. Beginning and end of shopping list. Bring on the pennant. True but OF isnt really the issue, 1st base /DH are the biggest needs, if we're sold on Devers at 3B.. Not sure if JD would be happy DH-ing or playing 1st...or would they trade JBJ? Probably a pipe dream but I became a big fan a couple years ago when a trade for him sewed up a fantasy title for me! Martinez cant play 1b, because that's where Hosmer will be |
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Post by Zig on Nov 10, 2017 15:51:19 GMT -5
True but OF isnt really the issue, 1st base /DH are the biggest needs, if we're sold on Devers at 3B.. Not sure if JD would be happy DH-ing or playing 1st...or would they trade JBJ? Probably a pipe dream but I became a big fan a couple years ago when a trade for him sewed up a fantasy title for me! Martinez cant play 1b, because that's where Hosmer will be that does seem more like a Sox move, throw top tier player money at a second tier type player... |
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 10, 2017 15:54:34 GMT -5
A dedicated thread for all the off season goings on To get things started: MLB TRADE RUMORS: GIANCARLO STANTON TO PHILLIES OR GIANTS IN MLB TRADE? They look to be the the main landing spots with potentially STL, but Stanton has stated he wants to play on either coast Stanton can opt out after 2020, so they would basically be trading for three years and $77M of him Not sure what kind of return the Marlins can get, considering its possibly only for 3 years. They might have to send some money if they want better prospects. So he's owed roughly $200M after the 2020 season? I'm not sure he'd opt out of that.. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 10, 2017 18:25:56 GMT -5
Martinez cant play 1b, because that's where Hosmer will be that does seem more like a Sox move, throw top tier player money at a second tier type player... they need that veteran leadership with a championship pedigree you cant put a price on that. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 10, 2017 18:30:00 GMT -5
Stanton can opt out after 2020, so they would basically be trading for three years and $77M of him Not sure what kind of return the Marlins can get, considering its possibly only for 3 years. They might have to send some money if they want better prospects. So he's owed roughly $200M after the 2020 season? I'm not sure he'd opt out of that.. He might after seeing what guys like JD Martinez and Hosmer are getting paid. And if Harper and Machado are getting $400M, he might try to get more than he already has. He will only be 30. 21:$29M, 22:$29M, 23:$32M, 24:$32M, 25:$32M, 26:$29M, 27:$25M, 28:$25M club option ($10M buyout) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 19:17:11 GMT -5
JD Martinez please Thank You You may see him six times a year, when the Red Sox play Seattle.
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Post by Zig on Nov 10, 2017 19:36:30 GMT -5
JD Martinez please Thank You You may see him six times a year, when the Red Sox play Seattle.
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Are the D-Backs out of the running for him? That's the team that ought to try to keep him if possible. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 20:45:13 GMT -5
You may see him six times a year, when the Red Sox play Seattle.
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Are the D-Backs out of the running for him? That's the team that ought to try to keep him if possible. I doubt it. They gotz money and they not afraid to burn it. I can't see them getting outbid if they really want to retain him. The money may be so good from multiple bidders that it just boil down to where he wants to play. |
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Post by Zig on Nov 10, 2017 20:57:29 GMT -5
Are the D-Backs out of the running for him? That's the team that ought to try to keep him if possible. I doubt it. They gotz money and they not afraid to burn it. I can't see them getting outbid if they really want to retain him. The money may be so good from multiple bidders that it just boil down to where he wants to play. You spelled "Yes and he's going Bawstun" wrong auto correct I assume |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 21:24:43 GMT -5
I doubt it. They gotz money and they not afraid to burn it. I can't see them getting outbid if they really want to retain him. The money may be so good from multiple bidders that it just boil down to where he wants to play. You spelled "Yes and he's going Bawstun" wrong auto correct I assume I only use 'bawstun' on the bawstuns. You ain't no bawstun so I use Boston with you. You don't live here so you don't understand |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 11, 2017 10:24:56 GMT -5
So who is the first key domino to fall. Who waits longer, Hosmer or Martinez?
On that mlb.com Matrix that was shared last week every single Rider had the Red Sox either getting Hosmer or Martinez. Does Hosmer wait to see where Martinez goes? Or do teams make a run at Hosmer because he's more signable than Martinez?
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