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Post by mrpickles on Nov 11, 2017 10:28:35 GMT -5
And, I might add that given the number of young star hitters on the Red Sox (up and coming Benintendi, Bogaerts, Mookie, Devers, et al) there is no telling how many runs he could knock in with that supporting cast around him). They have lots of good hitters, they just need a slugger to replace Big Papi. Beginning and end of shopping list. Bring on the pennant. True but OF isnt really the issue, 1st base /DH are the biggest needs, if we're sold on Devers at 3B.. Not sure if JD would be happy DH-ing or playing 1st...or would they trade JBJ? Probably a pipe dream but I became a big fan a couple years ago when a trade for him sewed up a fantasy title for me! JBJ should never stop a major acquisition. Mookie can play CF. and jbj should be easy to trade
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Post by Zig on Nov 11, 2017 10:33:09 GMT -5
True but OF isnt really the issue, 1st base /DH are the biggest needs, if we're sold on Devers at 3B.. Not sure if JD would be happy DH-ing or playing 1st...or would they trade JBJ? Probably a pipe dream but I became a big fan a couple years ago when a trade for him sewed up a fantasy title for me! JBJ should never stop a major acquisition. Mookie can play CF. and jbj should be easy to trade Agreed. I meant landing JD is probably a pipe dream, not trading JBJ
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Post by Zig on Nov 11, 2017 10:34:45 GMT -5
although the Sox have talked to the fish about Stanton so maybe they do plan on going big time...
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 11, 2017 10:54:41 GMT -5
So who is the first key domino to fall. Who waits longer, Hosmer or Martinez? On that mlb.com Matrix that was shared last week every single Rider had the Red Sox either getting Hosmer or Martinez. Does Hosmer wait to see where Martinez goes? Or do teams make a run at Hosmer because he's more signable than Martinez? They both have Boras, so I would assume he will be the decision maker on that. Hosmer's bitch works for NESN, so they might already have him in the bag
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 10:56:25 GMT -5
So who is the first key domino to fall. Who waits longer, Hosmer or Martinez? On that mlb.com Matrix that was shared last week every single Rider had the Red Sox either getting Hosmer or Martinez. Does Hosmer wait to see where Martinez goes? Or do teams make a run at Hosmer because he's more signable than Martinez? Well, they are both Boras clients so I don't expect either one to sign before January. And I wouldn't be surprised at all of both guys re-sign with the teams they finished the season with. I don't think Hosmer really wants to leave KC and I think JD knows that Zona is a good place to launch homeruns.
But if the Red Sox really want Hosmer, I imagine they will give him an offer that KC can't touch.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 11, 2017 10:57:27 GMT -5
I'd let Hosmer go, and get Santana in his place
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 11:06:58 GMT -5
JBJ should never stop a major acquisition. Mookie can play CF. and jbj should be easy to trade Agreed. I meant landing JD is probably a pipe dream, not trading JBJ JBJ's offense is going to continue to decline. I just don't think he has the necessary baseball IQ to make counter adjustments to the adjustments pitchers are making against him. Boston should trade him this off season. He isn't still very young like Mookie and Zanduh. He'll be 28 shortly after opening day. He should have had things figured out by now.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 11, 2017 11:07:15 GMT -5
So who is the first key domino to fall. Who waits longer, Hosmer or Martinez? On that mlb.com Matrix that was shared last week every single Rider had the Red Sox either getting Hosmer or Martinez. Does Hosmer wait to see where Martinez goes? Or do teams make a run at Hosmer because he's more signable than Martinez? Well, they are both Boras clients so I don't expect either one to sign before January. And I wouldn't be surprised at all of both guys re-sign with the teams they finished the season with. I don't think Hosmer really wants to leave KC and I think JD knows that Zona is a good place to launch homeruns.
But if the Red Sox really want Hosmer, I imagine they will give him an offer that KC can't touch.
I think Hosmer could sign before Xmas. I just don't think he wants it to drag on as long once he sees his value isn't what he thinks it is.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 11:08:54 GMT -5
I'd let Hosmer go, and get Santana in his place Yeah, I like Santana and he comes from a park which is pretty equivalent to KC's as far as favoring offense goes so there shouldn't be any park-attributed drop off in his stats.
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Post by mrpickles on Nov 11, 2017 13:37:33 GMT -5
Well, they are both Boras clients so I don't expect either one to sign before January. And I wouldn't be surprised at all of both guys re-sign with the teams they finished the season with. I don't think Hosmer really wants to leave KC and I think JD knows that Zona is a good place to launch homeruns.
But if the Red Sox really want Hosmer, I imagine they will give him an offer that KC can't touch.
I think Hosmer could sign before Xmas. I just don't think he wants it to drag on as long once he sees his value isn't what he thinks it is. Depends on what KC is saying. I just get the feeling he prefers to be there. If they give a strong offer early he might just take it. I could also see him letting it drag to give KC every chance to match on offers
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Post by mrpickles on Nov 11, 2017 13:38:18 GMT -5
I'd let Hosmer go, and get Santana in his place Yeah, I like Santana and he comes from a park which is pretty equivalent to KC's as far as favoring offense goes so there shouldn't be any park-attributed drop off in his stats. Santana is going the wrong direction.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 11, 2017 13:52:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I like Santana and he comes from a park which is pretty equivalent to KC's as far as favoring offense goes so there shouldn't be any park-attributed drop off in his stats. Santana is going the wrong direction. gets on base wont command a long deal allows the royals to move perez over there in 3 years and he is way cheaper
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Post by mrpickles on Nov 11, 2017 14:19:56 GMT -5
Santana is going the wrong direction. gets on base wont command a long deal allows the royals to move perez over there in 3 years and he is way cheaper Gotta spend at some point.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 11, 2017 16:16:58 GMT -5
gets on base wont command a long deal allows the royals to move perez over there in 3 years and he is way cheaper Gotta spend at some point. I'll take the $80M difference in contracts and spend it elsewhere
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 11, 2017 16:27:46 GMT -5
Talks between the Marlins and Red Sox involving Stanton “may be heating up”, according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald. His source tells him that the Red Sox are “definitely in play”. Spencer also mentions that Stanton’s incredible power would play well at Fenway Park, adding that Boston hit the fewest home runs of any MLB team in 2017. The Red Sox certainly seem like a reasonable fit for many other reasons as well, and Spencer lists a small handful in his piece. They’ve been said to be interested in spending more money, even to the point of exceeding the luxury tax, while it has been said that Stanton prefers to play near a coast. President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski is no stranger to making deals with the Marlins, having helped engineer a blockbuster trade to bring Miguel Cabrera to the Tigers back in 2007.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 11, 2017 16:28:29 GMT -5
boston would probably have to take prado too
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Post by Scalious on Nov 11, 2017 17:08:07 GMT -5
Stanton is the better than any of the FA and his contract is so big. FA is going to be very slow until he gets traded.
JDM is suppose to set the market. With Boras, it means he's waiting that out until Stanton is moved to maximize potential suitors.
Pitching Market might move if all the big pitching fish are going to teams who are not spending money on offense.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 11, 2017 21:28:37 GMT -5
Agreed. I meant landing JD is probably a pipe dream, not trading JBJ JBJ's offense is going to continue to decline. I just don't think he has the necessary baseball IQ to make counter adjustments to the adjustments pitchers are making against him. Boston should trade him this off season. He isn't still very young like Mookie and Zanduh. He'll be 28 shortly after opening day. He should have had things figured out by now. For the quality of his defense, you're still living with him hitting .245 with 20 HRs... He's not irreplaceable, but he isn't a liability either.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 12, 2017 12:56:22 GMT -5
Right on cue...
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 12, 2017 17:02:13 GMT -5
The Royals are holding out hope that they’ll be able to re-sign first baseman Eric Hosmer and third baseman Mike Moustakas, but they’ve “all but given up” on bringing back center fielder Lorenzo Cain, Jon Heyman of FanRag reports. Hosmer and Moustakas figure to collect two of the largest contracts of the offseason, which could pose a problem for small-market Kansas City, but owner David Glass believes the Royals would stay competitive by re-upping the homegrown duo and doesn’t want to “disappoint” the team’s fan base by letting either go, Heyman relays. Before Hosmer, Moustakas and Cain officially hit the market, each will have to reject $17.4MM qualifying offers from the Royals by Nov. 16. Unsurprisingly, that will happen, according to Heyman.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 12, 2017 23:45:34 GMT -5
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Post by mrpickles on Nov 13, 2017 6:44:48 GMT -5
Had no idea he was in thr Dodgers FO for the last 2 years. Blye Jays fucked that all up
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 13, 2017 13:39:21 GMT -5
Current impact free agents from National League West teams that may be on the move. The free agent market opens officially at 5PM today. Let the music start playing. Everybody try to grab a chair. Yu Darvish, Los Angeles Dodgers: Curt Schilling is running his mouth again (surprise). He states in the attached video that Clayton Kershaw is "no "Big Game" pitcher. Lord, that may very well be true but to actually come out and say that much as a fellow pitcher (former or not) is insulting. If Kershaw is no "Big Game" pitcher, what does that say about Dodgers' trade deadline acquisition Darvish? The former Ranger sure flunked his audition with LA with that clunker of a Series. That performance probably ended any chance that LA would sign him in free agency. He's had a solid career but somehow, one is always left thinking that there should be more. New team? Surprisingly, a number of writers think the Brewers will pony up and sign him, in lieu of their surprisingly successful run last year. I don't see it. The team certainly has plenty of room to pay a large salary (the current payroll is a penurious $55M). But they are almost always outbid by one of the "big boys". The Twins even are mentioned in some circles but they are not nearly as close to being a real contender i.m.o, even in a division that has gotten significantly weaker as of late. And they are historically cheap. The Yankees are said to be moving under the salary cap in anticipation of the bumper crop of free agents coming up following next season. Still, they need help in the rotation big time and could make a pitch. Its a question of who wants to pay most, as usual. If the Brewers make an offer, expect strong competition from both the Cardinals and Cubs in the same division. If St. Louis is not able to, or chooses not to go after Jake Arrieta, I'd expect them to be a serious contender for Darvish. Brandon Morrow, Los Angeles Dodgers: A man who possessed electric stuff earlier in his career has finally gotten over the hurdle of rehabbing his numerous injuries and is the top set up man in the free agent market. He has been quoted as saying that at age 33, he only wants to pitch for a contending team. I think this one is fairly easy. New team? Since he is said to be looking in the range of 3 years at $24M, he is affordable. Either he stays in LA with the Dodgers or the Cubs sign him. If you are a Cubs fan, a quick replay of Carl Edwards Jr.'s "efforts" in the postseason will get you on board here. Same will probably hold true for Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer. J.D. Martinez, Arizona Diamondbacks: Martinez recently announced that the bidding starts at $200M. Bet that elicited a gulp the size of that convenience store soft drink out of GM Mike Hazen. So this will be a signing by a "Big Boy" team. He is definitely a card carrying member of the "Big Time MLB Sluggers" club. On the other hand he is injury prone, especially if he is not being looked at as a future DH. That makes it almost foolish for National League team, including the D Backs, to sign off on that expenditure. J.D. was said to be interested in possibly rejoining the Astros. New team? You betcha. It will not be the Astros. They simply have enough firepower and don't need that salary added to payroll. Surprisingly, poker faced agent Scott Boras thinks he will stay with Arizona. A good barometer to the validity of that theory will be "How long will he remain on the market?" The longer he goes unsigned the better chance he returns late to the fold. Would not be the first time for a Boras client now, would it? I think still that Boston and former Tigers' GM Dave Dombrowski simply cannot resist both the temptation and the free spending policy of ownership and snaps him up for Beantown. The need and the fit make this reality. Red Sox it is. Greg Holland, Colorado Rockies: I guess "Greggy Boy" decided he missed Kauffman Stadium after a year in the "Rocky Mountain High" Coors Field. He declined a $15M option to stay in the land of weed; and humidors that are used both to keep the stuff fresh and the baseballs from drying up. A strong return from injury by Holland, just a few ERA blowing-up outings at home. The guy had street cred as a closer. New team?: Reading the "tea leaves" here, it says he will sign with a team that plays in a "pitcher's park". The Cubs will make a bid if they do not retain their own former Royal free agent closer. I still think they keep Wade Davis though. In the NL, the Cardinals need a closer as their committee failed to come up with any answers last year. Any team that has Fernando Rodney in that role needs a replacement, so count the Diamondbacks in. I don't believe he's a fit there or in Houston with the Astros either. The Royals could use him but won't pursue him. My money has him becoming a St. Louis Cardinal.Carlos Gonzalez, Colorado Rockies: The man is a product of Coors Field. A .330 hitter at home. A .255 hitter on the road. OPS is 1.1 at home. Only a paltry .735 on the road. Put simply, he is a fragile, zero win above replacement player on any team but the Rockies. New team? Heavens NO! Then again as P.T. Barnum would remind us if he could snatch one more breath "decades removed from pushing up daisies", there is a "sucker born every minute". The Rockies have the money and will likely retain Cargo. If Dave Dombrowski gets drunk enough at the winter meetings, he will give consideration. But Larry Lucchino will save the day by rushing after a bucket of ice cold water and dumping it all over DD's head... Mark Reynolds, Colorado Rockies and Jhoulys Chacin, San Diego Padres: I just thought I'd better put in this disclaimer. Before somebody says I forgot them, I didn't. I do not consider either an impact free agent. Yes I know that Reynolds had a "nice" comeback season. But it was fraudulent. One it was in Colorado and two, he faded badly in the second half. Chacin? he's a break even WAR pitcher. www.mlbtraderumors.com/yu-darvishdodgerblue.com/dodgers-video-curt-schilling-doesnt-believe-clayton-kershaw-big-game-pitcher-mentality/2017/11/12/www.mlbtraderumors.com/brandon-morrowwww.mlbtraderumors.com/arizona-diamondbacks
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 13, 2017 13:42:31 GMT -5
Well, they are both Boras clients so I don't expect either one to sign before January. And I wouldn't be surprised at all of both guys re-sign with the teams they finished the season with. I don't think Hosmer really wants to leave KC and I think JD knows that Zona is a good place to launch homeruns.
But if the Red Sox really want Hosmer, I imagine they will give him an offer that KC can't touch.
I think Hosmer could sign before Xmas. I just don't think he wants it to drag on as long once he sees his value isn't what he thinks it is. what is his value? 7 x 20 mil?
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 13, 2017 13:44:47 GMT -5
Cards & Giants leaders for Arrieta
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Post by lemiwinks on Nov 13, 2017 13:47:20 GMT -5
Cubs aren't going the Darvish route. I think they pay big money for a closer....and then move one of their young positional players for a starter. Beaz, Russell, Happ, Schwarber. 4 players for 2 spots.
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 13, 2017 13:53:42 GMT -5
Cubs aren't going the Darvish route. I think they pay big money for a closer....and then move one of their young positional players for a starter. Beaz, Russell, Happ, Schwarber. 4 players for 2 spots. I'd agree. But I think they keep Davis and go after someone like Brandon Morrow for a setup role.
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 13, 2017 16:54:36 GMT -5
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Post by Zig on Nov 13, 2017 18:44:34 GMT -5
also heard they're talking to (or will talk to) Lo-Mo. I'm JD or bust though
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 13, 2017 19:22:49 GMT -5
also heard they're talking to (or will talk to) Lo-Mo. I'm JD or bust though he wants to be a royal. says it would be a dream come true
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