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Post by Zig on Nov 13, 2017 19:30:58 GMT -5
also heard they're talking to (or will talk to) Lo-Mo. I'm JD or bust though he wants to be a royal. says it would be a dream come true that doesnt sound like something he'd say doesnt sound like something anyone would say
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 13, 2017 19:36:06 GMT -5
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Post by Zig on Nov 13, 2017 19:48:59 GMT -5
oh I thought you meant JD sure you can have Lo-Mo
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 13, 2017 19:57:13 GMT -5
Talks between the Marlins and Red Sox involving Stanton “may be heating up”, according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald. His source tells him that the Red Sox are “definitely in play”. Spencer also mentions that Stanton’s incredible power would play well at Fenway Park, adding that Boston hit the fewest home runs of any MLB team in 2017. The Red Sox certainly seem like a reasonable fit for many other reasons as well, and Spencer lists a small handful in his piece. They’ve been said to be interested in spending more money, even to the point of exceeding the luxury tax, while it has been said that Stanton prefers to play near a coast. President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski is no stranger to making deals with the Marlins, having helped engineer a blockbuster trade to bring Miguel Cabrera to the Tigers back in 2007. Benintendi and cash should do it.
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Post by Zig on Nov 13, 2017 19:59:50 GMT -5
Talks between the Marlins and Red Sox involving Stanton “may be heating up”, according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald. His source tells him that the Red Sox are “definitely in play”. Spencer also mentions that Stanton’s incredible power would play well at Fenway Park, adding that Boston hit the fewest home runs of any MLB team in 2017. The Red Sox certainly seem like a reasonable fit for many other reasons as well, and Spencer lists a small handful in his piece. They’ve been said to be interested in spending more money, even to the point of exceeding the luxury tax, while it has been said that Stanton prefers to play near a coast. President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski is no stranger to making deals with the Marlins, having helped engineer a blockbuster trade to bring Miguel Cabrera to the Tigers back in 2007. Benintendi and cash should do it. just have to pay JD. Gio you have to give up something AND pay him thusly, we want JD self
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Nov 13, 2017 21:14:25 GMT -5
Talks between the Marlins and Red Sox involving Stanton “may be heating up”, according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald. His source tells him that the Red Sox are “definitely in play”. Spencer also mentions that Stanton’s incredible power would play well at Fenway Park, adding that Boston hit the fewest home runs of any MLB team in 2017. The Red Sox certainly seem like a reasonable fit for many other reasons as well, and Spencer lists a small handful in his piece. They’ve been said to be interested in spending more money, even to the point of exceeding the luxury tax, while it has been said that Stanton prefers to play near a coast. President of Baseball Operations Dave Dombrowski is no stranger to making deals with the Marlins, having helped engineer a blockbuster trade to bring Miguel Cabrera to the Tigers back in 2007. Benintendi and cash should do it. They would regret that. Benintendi will be hitting .300 with nearly 200 hits a year for six years after Giancarlo is done.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 11:07:33 GMT -5
Darvish - Mets. 6/138 JD Martinez - Toronto. 5/130 Hosmer - Anaheim. 7/154 Arrieta - St Louis. 5/115 Tanaka - Washington. 5/110 Moose Tacos - Kansas City. 4/76 Cain - Seattle. 3/42 Davis - St Louis. 4/72 Lynn - Milwaukee. 5/95 Holland - Colorado. 5/85 Stanton - traded to Boston for JBJ, Eduardo Rodriguez, and $40 million. Otani - Texas.
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 14, 2017 12:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 14, 2017 13:34:30 GMT -5
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 14, 2017 17:58:31 GMT -5
Stanton says no to Boston?
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 15, 2017 7:41:42 GMT -5
JD Martinez bidding is said to start at 7 years $210 million.
That is beyond absurd.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 15, 2017 7:44:20 GMT -5
Benintendi and cash should do it. just have to pay JD. Gio you have to give up something AND pay him thusly, we want JD self I prefer the better, younger player. I believe that is Stanton. If getting Stanton means bye to Benintendi, I have no problem with that. Martinez is asking for a crippling deal that would pay him $30 mil thru till he is 37.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 15, 2017 7:46:46 GMT -5
Benintendi and cash should do it. They would regret that. Benintendi will be hitting .300 with nearly 200 hits a year for six years after Giancarlo is done. And Stanton will hit more home runs in the next 3 seasons than Benintendi will hit throughout his 20s. I just want the stud hitter. The Red Sox have enough #2 hitters. I want a clean up hitter behind Mookie.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 15, 2017 7:49:26 GMT -5
Stanton says no to Boston? awesome Came from a Boston writer with close ties to the team. National reporter's say thst Stanton is keeping every option open. Sounds like a Red Sox leak because they don't want to give up something for Stanton. Which I hate. We have seen what the ceiling is for the team filled with 20 home run hitters who run the bases well. 92 wins, a division title and a swift October exit.
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Post by Zig on Nov 15, 2017 9:14:21 GMT -5
just have to pay JD. Gio you have to give up something AND pay him thusly, we want JD self I prefer the better, younger player. I believe that is Stanton. If getting Stanton means bye to Benintendi, I have no problem with that. Martinez is asking for a crippling deal that would pay him $30 mil thru till he is 37. Have you seen Stanton's contract? He's owed about the same (avg 28 mil) until he is 40...and again, we'd have to give up players AND pay him. Then he can opt out in 3 years... I'll take either guy really just think signing JD w/o having to lose any starters improves the team more
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 15, 2017 12:01:04 GMT -5
I prefer the better, younger player. I believe that is Stanton. If getting Stanton means bye to Benintendi, I have no problem with that. Martinez is asking for a crippling deal that would pay him $30 mil thru till he is 37. Have you seen Stanton's contract? He's owed about the same (avg 28 mil) until he is 40...and again, we'd have to give up players AND pay him. Then he can opt out in 3 years... I'll take either guy really just think signing JD w/o having to lose any starters improves the team more There is less than 1% chance of Stanton opting out of that deal
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 15, 2017 12:02:37 GMT -5
Speculation the Padres may look at making a splash for Stanton. That would be amazing
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Post by Just Another Shem on Nov 15, 2017 15:12:22 GMT -5
I prefer the better, younger player. I believe that is Stanton. If getting Stanton means bye to Benintendi, I have no problem with that. Martinez is asking for a crippling deal that would pay him $30 mil thru till he is 37. Have you seen Stanton's contract? He's owed about the same (avg 28 mil) until he is 40...and again, we'd have to give up players AND pay him. Then he can opt out in 3 years... I'll take either guy really just think signing JD w/o having to lose any starters improves the team more Hard to see him opting out of $210 million in 2021, but that's a fair concern. It's a win now move, for sure. A deal they have to do, IMO. They cant waste Chris Sales prime like they wasted Pedros.
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Post by Zig on Nov 15, 2017 15:34:48 GMT -5
Have you seen Stanton's contract? He's owed about the same (avg 28 mil) until he is 40...and again, we'd have to give up players AND pay him. Then he can opt out in 3 years... I'll take either guy really just think signing JD w/o having to lose any starters improves the team more There is less than 1% chance of Stanton opting out of that deal You dont know that! His first choice is the Giants but he said he may accept a trade to another team ( ie: Boston) but if he aint happy on his new team and by that time his annual salary could be considered peanuts compared to other guys So no, not less than 1% chance dont be ignant dawg!
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Post by MoonDriven on Nov 15, 2017 16:00:42 GMT -5
There is less than 1% chance of Stanton opting out of that deal You dont know that! His first choice is the Giants but he said he may accept a trade to another team ( ie: Boston) but if he aint happy on his new team and by that time his annual salary could be considered peanuts compared to other guys So no, not less than 1% chance dont be ignant dawg! He'll be turning 32 when he can opt out. I highly doubt he would opt out and hope for 7/210 somewhere else.. Then again Boston has run a lot of guys out of town so... maybe!
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Nov 16, 2017 3:05:13 GMT -5
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 18, 2017 17:07:29 GMT -5
This is not a rumors website; we deal in hard facts around here. But I can’t shake the feeling that part of the reason Moore didn’t raise more of a stink about letting the Braves job go by without so much as an official interview (do grow up, of course they had some back-room, off-the-record discussions) is that David Glass not-so-subtly let him know that the purse strings will be loosened, allowing Moore to rain Benjamin’s down on at least (or most?) one of his homegrown talents.
Whoever that might be (head says Moustakas, heart says Hosmer, the parts of me that values being cost-effective say Cain), it’s going to touch off what one hopes will be a round of much-needed spending in the draft, on international players and player development.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 18, 2017 17:08:19 GMT -5
Longoria will gain 10/5 rights and the ability to veto trades in April 2018, so if the Rays want to part ways with their franchise third baseman — who has been healthy, consistent, and somewhat underwhelming over the past three seasons — now’s the time to do it, or they’re stuck with him for another four or five years, depending on how the options at the end of Longoria’s deal play out. Kansas City seems like it’d be an excellent fit for him as a player, and he’s probably cheaper than Mike Moustakas would be to re-sign.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 18, 2017 17:09:47 GMT -5
LAKE BUENA VISTA — Tampa Bay Rays principal owner Stuart Sternberg said Wednesday that the team is "genuinely excited" about the proposed Ybor City site for a new stadium and more than "cautiously optimistic" the project can be completed.
But he also provided a glimpse of the bigger challenge of paying for it, suggesting that based on initial projections the team might only cover $150 million of the projected $800 million cost.
In speaking specifically for the first time about the site pitched last month by Hillsborough County Commissioner Ken Hagan, Sternberg told the Tampa Bay Times:
• The Rays had input and feel the site "looked clearly" to be the best of the workable Hillsborough options.
• Their contribution to the project will be based on projections of how much their revenues would increase, and could end up being higher or lower than the $150 million.
• They need to see support from the community in terms of commitments for season tickets and sponsorships, hoping to increase both by at least 50 percent.
• The stadium needs to have a roof of some kind, whether retractable, fixed or something else being determined by the overall budget.
• While working on the Hillsborough site they "haven’t dismissed by any means" staying in St. Petersburg at a new stadium on the Tropicana Field site, but acknowledged that would be a tougher sell to Major League Baseball.
Sternberg talked about the project for more than 30 minutes before the start of the quarterly owners meetings, and his comments about the financing aspects are certain to attract the most attention.
He said several times the amount of their contribution to the public-private partnership would be based on detailed projections on increased sales of season tickets and sponsorships that were still in the works, and could be influenced by "a drive" or other public effort — such as "businesses knocking on the door" to take part — illustrating additional support, and thus proving that moving from St. Petersburg would be the catalyst.
But he also said they had enough preliminary information to use the $150 million — the same amount they were talking about committing to a failed 2008 proposal on the St. Petersburg waterfront — as a working number.
"We’ve tried to make some guestimates, some estimates on what would be prudent for us, what would give us the ability to take this step in committing to a physical place for another generation or two, and our thought process is it’s probably in the $150 million range," Sternberg said. "We might find out that’s too much. We might find out that we can afford more."
At just $150 million, that would leave Hagan and area government and business leaders to come up with the rest, at least $650 million. With no appetite for a tax increase to pay for a stadium? Like the sales tax referendum that built Raymond James Stadium? It will take a creative cocktail of financing mechanisms.
Options include taxes collected from hotels, rental cars, and food and drinks sold near the stadium on game days, plus leveraging the expected growth in property taxes as a result of development around the ballpark.
At Wednesday’s Hillsborough County Commission meeting, Hagan acknowledged negotiations over who will pay for the new digs could take a year and won’t be easy.
"I don’t know if we’ll ever get there," Hagan said.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 18, 2017 17:11:49 GMT -5
Patrick Karraker at MLB Daily Dish thinks Kelvin Herrera could be one of many players moved this off-season.
Herrera’s value isn’t great right now considering that he posted career-worst numbers in 2017 (4.25 ERA and 1.35 WHIP in 59.1 innings) and dealt with a forearm injury late in the season. But he’s heading into his final year of arbitration, and the Royals might not have much use for him as they retool in 2018. A club that’s willing to bet that Herrera was simply miscast as a closer could end up with a fireballing middle reliever who had been extremely reliable prior to 2017, posting a 2.63 ERA and 1.12 WHIP over his first six major-league seasons.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 18, 2017 17:12:48 GMT -5
Andrew McCutchen to the Seattle Mariners
McCutchen almost certainly won’t be on the move this offseason; his contract expires after next year, and the Pirates will likely hold onto him until the trade deadline. Still, it would be fun if they did deal him now, while nothing else is going on to take our minds off the gathering winter and the news. Seattle’s a good fit to be a buyer for McCutchen at the deadline, and a full year of him in center would do helpful things for Ben Gamel and Mitch Haniger. Not to mention the Seattle offense — McCutchen hasn’t been an MVP the past two seasons, but he’s been a very useful bat considering where he plays on the diamond.
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Post by Zig on Nov 18, 2017 17:14:19 GMT -5
This is not a rumors website; we deal in hard facts around here. But I can’t shake the feeling that part of the reason Moore didn’t raise more of a stink about letting the Braves job go by without so much as an official interview (do grow up, of course they had some back-room, off-the-record discussions) is that David Glass not-so-subtly let him know that the purse strings will be loosened, allowing Moore to rain Benjamin’s down on at least (or most?) one of his homegrown talents. Whoever that might be (head says Moustakas, heart says Hosmer, the parts of me that values being cost-effective say Cain), it’s going to touch off what one hopes will be a round of much-needed spending in the draft, on international players and player development. doesnt it piss you off that they could easily keep all 3? One of the richest owners in league if not THE richest but a tight budget for the MLB team lol
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 18, 2017 17:14:33 GMT -5
Matt Harvey to the Los Angeles Angels
Harvey needs out of New York; even with Terry Collins’s retirement and Mickey Callaway’s arrival, the relationship between the Mets and their former ace hit some places in 2017 it can probably never really come back from — once you start sending off-duty cops to “check up” on a guy, you’ve probably said all that needs to be said. Harvey’s disaster of a year on the mound won’t help his trade value, but the good news for the Angels is they don’t have much worth trading right now anyway. If he can bounce back in a new setting — and his arm and shoulder aren’t catastrophically, permanently out of action — he could be one of the guys who helps Mike Trout finally see some regular postseason action. Or he could go the way most Angels pitching pickups do and post an 87 ERA+ or so.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 18, 2017 17:25:41 GMT -5
This is not a rumors website; we deal in hard facts around here. But I can’t shake the feeling that part of the reason Moore didn’t raise more of a stink about letting the Braves job go by without so much as an official interview (do grow up, of course they had some back-room, off-the-record discussions) is that David Glass not-so-subtly let him know that the purse strings will be loosened, allowing Moore to rain Benjamin’s down on at least (or most?) one of his homegrown talents. Whoever that might be (head says Moustakas, heart says Hosmer, the parts of me that values being cost-effective say Cain), it’s going to touch off what one hopes will be a round of much-needed spending in the draft, on international players and player development. doesnt it piss you off that they could easily keep all 3? One of the richest owners in league if not THE richest but a tight budget for the MLB team lol Not really. We aren't really in the business of paying top dollar for what a player in the past, unless it is Alex Gordon. Hosmer will be so overpaid, he will never live up the value. Plus, in a couple years, Perez will probably move over to 1b. Cain is already in his 30s and has had injury issues in the past. I'd love to keep Moose, since there aren't a lot of good 3b, and there is no decent in house replacement. Takes two though. These guys have put in their time here and have become local legends. They've got their ring, and now it's time to play for the money. We should have one of the biggest draft pools this year and will have a shit load of picks. Hopefully, we can do better in the draft than in the last couple years I'm not sure Glass is one of the richest owners. He might be, but I really don't know. And yes, I said "we" instead of "they" or "the Royals".
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Post by Zig on Nov 18, 2017 17:41:59 GMT -5
doesnt it piss you off that they could easily keep all 3? One of the richest owners in league if not THE richest but a tight budget for the MLB team lol Not really. We aren't really in the business of paying top dollar for what a player in the past, unless it is Alex Gordon. Hosmer will be so overpaid, he will never live up the value. Plus, in a couple years, Perez will probably move over to 1b. Cain is already in his 30s and has had injury issues in the past. I'd love to keep Moose, since there aren't a lot of good 3b, and there is no decent in house replacement. Takes two though. These guys have put in their time here and have become local legends. They've got their ring, and now it's time to play for the money. We should have one of the biggest draft pools this year and will have a shit load of picks. Hopefully, we can do better in the draft than in the last couple years I'm not sure Glass is one of the richest owners. He might be, but I really don't know. And yes, I said "we" instead of "they" or "the Royals". my bad I thought the Walmart family owned the Royals. Didnt they used too? Good points on Cain but Moose and Hosmer should get paid by KC tightwads I say "we" too so it's cool.
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