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Post by nava on Jun 10, 2014 13:22:55 GMT -5
Sizemore's gotta be DFA'd as soon as Vic comes back, no? I mean the ONLY positive thing you can say about the guy is that he's actually stayed healthy somehow. What a steal y'all have with Holt... Pretty much. It was a nice story and all, but he's toast. I'm still skeptical about Holt's stat line. I think he's going to be a nice utility player for the Sox and maybe bat around .280/.340/.400-ish, but his .411 BABIP highly suggests he'll regress. He was a career .307/.372/.410 hitter in the minors. Hope I'm wrong. |
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Post by redseat on Jun 11, 2014 6:27:30 GMT -5
I am still on the fence about Workman being in the rotation. I mean he strikes me as a guy who could do what he did last night (even after the rain delay) or be the next bad Dice-K. But kudos to him last night
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Post by Zig on Jun 11, 2014 6:37:13 GMT -5
Mike Napoli's third-inning RBI single was all the offense the Red Sox needed to come out on the positive end of a pitcher's duel for the first time this season. Boston was 0-18 when scoring fewer than three runs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 6:37:18 GMT -5
Red Sox first-rounder Michael Kopech agrees to sign
06.10.14 at 3:27 pm ET
By Alex Speier
Michael Kopech, the hard-throwing right-hander whom the Red Sox selected with one of their two first-round picks (No. 33 overall), said by phone on Tuesday that he has reached an agreement to sign with the Red Sox and that he has informed the University of Arizona (which he’d accepted a scholarship to attend) of his decision. The agreement is not yet final, pending a physical, but Kopech is expected in Boston in the coming days to finalize his agreement. Kopech said that his agreement with the Sox was for “a little under” the slot recommendation of $1.678 million, meaning that the Red Sox will have some additional flexibility to spend on other draftees.
Kopech was 3-0 with a 0.44 ERA and two strikeouts an inning as a senior at Mt. Pleasant High in Texas. He regularly sat at 93-95 mph, topping out at 98-99.
“He’s got a hell of an arm. Special arm. I don’t know that I’ve ever scouted someone who’s had this kind of arm strength,” said one evaluator. “This guy can long toss from foul pole to foul pole before the game — without a problem, without a crow hop. It’s special. It’s a special, elite type of arm.”
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Post by Zig on Jun 11, 2014 6:42:11 GMT -5
well Napoli has 2 big hits in his 2 games back so there's that...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 11, 2014 7:23:33 GMT -5
Good talk last night about who we could get something good in return for if Ben decides to sell... Lester, Uehara, Lackey and Shitiz are probably the pieces that would fetch the best return... Might get something small for Drew, Pierzynski, Gomes and Capuano...
Gotta move Lackey, Uehara and Shitiz if the offer is right...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 7:25:17 GMT -5
Good talk last night about who we could get something good in return for if Ben decides to sell... Lester, Uehara, Lackey and Shitiz are probably the pieces that would fetch the best return... Might get something small for Drew, Pierzynski, Gomes and Capuano... Gotta move Lackey, Uehara and Shitiz if the offer is right... you see lackey basically saying if he has to play for that 500k option next year, hes retiring? makes a good trade candidate if they do sell...team gets him for one year at 500k, and that team gets a draft pick if he walks from that team |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 11, 2014 7:26:24 GMT -5
Good talk last night about who we could get something good in return for if Ben decides to sell... Lester, Uehara, Lackey and Shitiz are probably the pieces that would fetch the best return... Might get something small for Drew, Pierzynski, Gomes and Capuano... Gotta move Lackey, Uehara and Shitiz if the offer is right... lackey hinting he will retire or sit out next year instead of honoring the contract he signed, which had a clause that if he missed a year due to injury, the 2015 season would be at 500K Love what Lackey has become the past two seasons, he is a pleasure to watch pitch when he is on, but that is some bullshit and I agree, time to sell Uehara, yes Lackey, yes Lester, no, can't do that, still don't think he is a true ace, but they need to keep him Ortiz, no Victorino if he can get healthy has some value Capuano maybe |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 7:27:25 GMT -5
Good talk last night about who we could get something good in return for if Ben decides to sell... Lester, Uehara, Lackey and Shitiz are probably the pieces that would fetch the best return... Might get something small for Drew, Pierzynski, Gomes and Capuano... Gotta move Lackey, Uehara and Shitiz if the offer is right... lackey hinting he will retire or sit out next year instead of honoring the contract he signed, which had a clause that if he missed a year due to injury, the 2015 season would be at 500K Love what Lackey has become the past two seasons, he is a pleasure to watch pitch when he is on, but that is some bullshit and I agree, time to sell Uehara, yes Lackey, yes Lester, no, can't do that, still don't think he is a true ace, but they need to keep him Ortiz, no Victorino if he can get healthy has some value Capuano maybe i win |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 11, 2014 8:08:44 GMT -5
Good talk last night about who we could get something good in return for if Ben decides to sell... Lester, Uehara, Lackey and Shitiz are probably the pieces that would fetch the best return... Might get something small for Drew, Pierzynski, Gomes and Capuano... Gotta move Lackey, Uehara and Shitiz if the offer is right... lackey hinting he will retire or sit out next year instead of honoring the contract he signed, which had a clause that if he missed a year due to injury, the 2015 season would be at 500K Love what Lackey has become the past two seasons, he is a pleasure to watch pitch when he is on, but that is some bullshit and I agree, time to sell Uehara, yes Lackey, yes Lester, no, can't do that, still don't think he is a true ace, but they need to keep him Ortiz, no Victorino if he can get healthy has some value Capuano maybe Think they have to send feelers out on Lester...........Think he and Price are awful contracts waiting to happen.....Even if not a true ace, he will be looking to be paid as such, and someone will probably do just that after this season....... Think Milwaukee is a team to keep an eye on, not sure how their farm system is, but like CC a few years back, I could see that team being big time buyers this July... |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 11, 2014 8:16:57 GMT -5
lackey hinting he will retire or sit out next year instead of honoring the contract he signed, which had a clause that if he missed a year due to injury, the 2015 season would be at 500K Love what Lackey has become the past two seasons, he is a pleasure to watch pitch when he is on, but that is some bullshit and I agree, time to sell Uehara, yes Lackey, yes Lester, no, can't do that, still don't think he is a true ace, but they need to keep him Ortiz, no Victorino if he can get healthy has some value Capuano maybe Think they have to send feelers out on Lester...........Think he and Price are awful contracts waiting to happen.....Even if not a true ace, he will be looking to be paid as such, and someone will probably do just that after this season....... Think Milwaukee is a team to keep an eye on, not sure how their farm system is, but like CC a few years back, I could see that team being big time buyers this July... Lester takes the ball and goes seven innings every five days.... He will be worth 18-20 mil per year... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 11, 2014 8:19:51 GMT -5
Think they have to send feelers out on Lester...........Think he and Price are awful contracts waiting to happen.....Even if not a true ace, he will be looking to be paid as such, and someone will probably do just that after this season....... Think Milwaukee is a team to keep an eye on, not sure how their farm system is, but like CC a few years back, I could see that team being big time buyers this July... Lester takes the ball and goes seven innings every five days.... He will be worth 18-20 mil per year... In this market, I agree....But Price, CC and Lester to me have so many similarities...So many innings, looking for big money on the wrong side of 30 (Price will be 29).........Dont get me wrong, CC gave the Yankees a few rock solid years, but you see how that back end is starting to look........Just think if the Sox were blown away, it could be worth a look |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 11, 2014 8:25:48 GMT -5
Lester takes the ball and goes seven innings every five days.... He will be worth 18-20 mil per year... In this market, I agree....But Price, CC and Lester to me have so many similarities...So many innings, looking for big money on the wrong side of 30 (Price will be 29).........Dont get me wrong, CC gave the Yankees a few rock solid years, but you see how that back end is starting to look........Just think if the Sox were blown away, it could be worth a look I agree... I would love to see Cherington capitalize on the banked capital of last years title and get more chips for the future... Uehara, Lackey and Lester would all fetch something sexy.... Wrangle a corner outfielder of the future and some more young arms... I doubt Lucchino would allow it, though.... |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 11, 2014 8:29:09 GMT -5
And you know they could get a blue chipper AND offload Shitiz's bloated contract... But he's a 10/5 guy, so he would probably veto any deal they could pull....
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Post by Zig on Jun 11, 2014 8:30:35 GMT -5
June 11th we're talking about throwing in the towel
GTFO
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 11, 2014 8:33:41 GMT -5
And you know they could get a blue chipper AND offload Shitiz's bloated contract... But he's a 10/5 guy, so he would probably veto any deal they could pull.... The way things are shaping up, there could be a lotta buyers, even rentals.......Who the sellers will be becomes the question...Think the only 2 teams that are a lock to be sellers right now are the Phillies and Dbacks...... |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 11, 2014 8:37:31 GMT -5
And you know they could get a blue chipper AND offload Shitiz's bloated contract... But he's a 10/5 guy, so he would probably veto any deal they could pull.... The way things are shaping up, there could be a lotta buyers, even rentals.......Who the sellers will be becomes the question...Think the only 2 teams that are a lock to be sellers right now are the Phillies and Dbacks...... cherington said that he doesn't want to think about adding to this team until his own players play better doesnt sound like a guy who is thinking so much about 2014 |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 11, 2014 8:39:58 GMT -5
June 11th we're talking about throwing in the towel GTFO Yeah, have you watched this team? We fucki g blow.... Dump what we can dump get what we can get and let the young kids play now... At this point what is the harm in bringing up Betts, Vasquez and Cecchini... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 11, 2014 8:42:58 GMT -5
June 11th we're talking about throwing in the towel GTFO Yeah, have you watched this team? We fucki g blow.... Dump what we can dump get what we can get and let the young kids play now... At this point what is the harm in bringing up Betts, Vasquez and Cecchini... Tough Call......For them to toss it in, they would really have to believe the Jays are built to last or the Yankees (not happening) or the O's (more likely) are capable of going on a 2 month tear That division really does keep hope alive |
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Post by Zig on Jun 11, 2014 8:48:53 GMT -5
June 11th we're talking about throwing in the towel GTFO Yeah, have you watched this team? We fucki g blow.... Dump what we can dump get what we can get and let the young kids play now... At this point what is the harm in bringing up Betts, Vasquez and Cecchini... I just don't get "Selling" off good players because they as a team aren't very good right now. As you noted we allegedly have a lot of "kids" that are just about ready to help. Some will very soon I'd guess. This is the bridge year last year was supposed to be. Lester might not be an "Ace" but I'd rather just pay him than give that money/contract to another SP and take our chances. Koji, much as I love him, he'd kinda make sense to move if they don't turn it around by deadline time. Lester and Lackey I'd rather keep. SPs harder to find than anything really. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 11, 2014 8:50:43 GMT -5
Yeah, have you watched this team? We fucki g blow.... Dump what we can dump get what we can get and let the young kids play now... At this point what is the harm in bringing up Betts, Vasquez and Cecchini... I just don't get "Selling" off good players because they as a team aren't very good right now. As you noted we allegedly have a lot of "kids" that are just about ready to help. Some will very soon I'd guess. This is the bridge year last year was supposed to be. Lester might not be an "Ace" but I'd rather just pay him than give that money/contract to another SP and take our chances. Koji, much as I love him, he'd kinda make sense to move if they don't turn it around by deadline time. Lester and Lackey I'd rather keep. SPs harder to find than anything really. Lackey really may need to go........He will absolutely look to re-neogotiate and extend, and i wouldnt trust tacking on another 3 years and hope this is what youll get |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 11, 2014 8:54:07 GMT -5
Yeah, have you watched this team? We fucki g blow.... Dump what we can dump get what we can get and let the young kids play now... At this point what is the harm in bringing up Betts, Vasquez and Cecchini... I just don't get "Selling" off good players because they as a team aren't very good right now. As you noted we allegedly have a lot of "kids" that are just about ready to help. Some will very soon I'd guess. This is the bridge year last year was supposed to be. Lester might not be an "Ace" but I'd rather just pay him than give that money/contract to another SP and take our chances. Koji, much as I love him, he'd kinda make sense to move if they don't turn it around by deadline time. Lester and Lackey I'd rather keep. SPs harder to find than anything really. All things equal, I'd keep Lester too... But he would really set something nice in return. So would Uehara and Lackey if he buys in... This team will finish right around 500. Get an outfielder for next year... |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 11, 2014 8:54:24 GMT -5
I just don't get "Selling" off good players because they as a team aren't very good right now. As you noted we allegedly have a lot of "kids" that are just about ready to help. Some will very soon I'd guess. This is the bridge year last year was supposed to be. Lester might not be an "Ace" but I'd rather just pay him than give that money/contract to another SP and take our chances. Koji, much as I love him, he'd kinda make sense to move if they don't turn it around by deadline time. Lester and Lackey I'd rather keep. SPs harder to find than anything really. Lackey really may need to go........He will absolutely look to re-neogotiate and extend, and i wouldnt trust tacking on another 3 years and hope this is what youll get maybe they are looking at who comes off the books next year for making decisions about this one lackey is as good as being off the books with that salary Lester, he might still be mad at that initial offer so who knows if that affects negotiations........i think they need to keep him, even if he isn't a true ace some other contracts up after the season uehara, carp and more that i'm misremembering |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 11, 2014 9:03:27 GMT -5
Always my take....I kick myself when I get caught up in payroll debates, cause truthfully I couldnt give a shit...... agreed but why put perfume on a pig i know the division is weak, but this team isnt championship calibre.....don't trade prospects to get a second wildcard fuck that improve if you can without trading any top prospect Not so sure. If a 2nd WC is attainable, you have as good a shot at the crown as anyone in baseball. Other sports, like the Knicks trying to get an 8 seed, different story |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 11, 2014 9:12:04 GMT -5
agreed but why put perfume on a pig i know the division is weak, but this team isnt championship calibre.....don't trade prospects to get a second wildcard fuck that improve if you can without trading any top prospect Not so sure. If a 2nd WC is attainable, you have as good a shot at the crown as anyone in baseball. Other sports, like the Knicks trying to get an 8 seed, different story i know once you get in it is a crapshoot but I'd rather they not trade anything significant this season, prospects I mean (Or Lester) and up until Lackey started bitching about 2015, I wanted him to be extended too |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 9:32:13 GMT -5
I just don't get "Selling" off good players because they as a team aren't very good right now. As you noted we allegedly have a lot of "kids" that are just about ready to help. Some will very soon I'd guess. This is the bridge year last year was supposed to be. Lester might not be an "Ace" but I'd rather just pay him than give that money/contract to another SP and take our chances. Koji, much as I love him, he'd kinda make sense to move if they don't turn it around by deadline time. Lester and Lackey I'd rather keep. SPs harder to find than anything really. All things equal, I'd keep Lester too... But he would really set something nice in return. So would Uehara and Lackey if he buys in... This team will finish right around 500. Get an outfielder for next year... Lester would fetch something around what Garza got last year. But can't expect too much more for a pure rental that you wouldn't be able to attach a QO offer once he is traded. |
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Post by bigddude on Jun 11, 2014 9:52:10 GMT -5
So now THIS is the answer now Boston? Really?
The Red Sox have signed free agent outfielder Andres Torres to a minor league deal, the club announced (h/t to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, via Twitter). Torres, 36, had remained unsigned all offseason and has yet to play in 2014.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jun 11, 2014 10:46:43 GMT -5
Lackey really may need to go........He will absolutely look to re-neogotiate and extend, and i wouldnt trust tacking on another 3 years and hope this is what youll get fuck him "we are never overpaid when we are hurt, just underpaid when we do what is expected of us." Totally true. And sadly, if the Sox don't trade him (they should), they'll probably extend him so he comes out alright. "My arm is too valuable to pitch for only $500K." |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 11, 2014 11:08:50 GMT -5
Pedroia says he thinks we are about to go on a run....
Give it till July and if we are not above .500, sell everything...
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 11, 2014 11:10:06 GMT -5
Terriffic year?
Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington said Tuesday that the club remains hopeful of re-signing Jon Lester before he hits free agency this winter.
"Our position hasn’t changed. We hope to have a conversation again about his contract (before Lester reaches free agency at season’s end)," Cherington said. "We’d love to find a way to keep him here." The comments come a few weeks after team president Larry Lucchino said that he expects to re-open contract negotiations with Lester at some point this season. Lester turned down a lowball four-year, $70-$80 million extension offer this spring and negotiations haven't resumed since. The lefty is having a terrific year, so the Red Sox will have to up their previous offer considerably in order to keep Lester from testing the open market.
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