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Post by The Bag on Mar 10, 2017 19:53:27 GMT -5
Its a steal now that i think about it Of course it is. Are the pats getting anything with those picks comparable to cooks? Nope. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 19:56:38 GMT -5
Wow, Patriots absolutely crushed that trade...
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Post by mrpickles on Mar 10, 2017 19:56:32 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him?
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 10, 2017 19:56:38 GMT -5
why would anybody trade with the patriots?
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 19:58:17 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him? They like Thomas and Cooks is a year away from a big contract |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 19:58:39 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him? Mouthed off about losing catches to thomas a few times and he wants to get paid. The pats didnt pay branch years back and they regretted it for years. Maybe this is their do over. Young kid. Lots of upside. Fits the offense. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 20:00:14 GMT -5
odd choice imo. Rumor is Cooks wants big money next year. And Pats don't generally pay up. Odd choice? Lololol Slam dunk for the Patriots... |
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Post by mrpickles on Mar 10, 2017 20:00:13 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him? Mouthed off about losing catches to thomas a few times and he wants to get paid. The pats didnt pay branch years back and they regretted it for years. Maybe this is their do over. Pats are really going in an opposite direction here... bringing in a lot of outsiders. Always a red flag for me, stuff usually seems to fail |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 20:01:41 GMT -5
Mouthed off about losing catches to thomas a few times and he wants to get paid. The pats didnt pay branch years back and they regretted it for years. Maybe this is their do over. Pats are really going in an opposite direction here... bringing in a lot of outsiders. Always a red flag for me, stuff usually seems to fail They bring in outsiders every year lol. They just won a super bowl. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 10, 2017 20:13:27 GMT -5
Am i the only person who doesnt get the Brandin Cooks hype? Tavon Austin with a guy who can get him the ball |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 10, 2017 20:30:33 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him? Deep draft, cost certainty compounded by lack of cap space Michael Thomas and Willie Snead |
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Post by Scalious on Mar 10, 2017 20:47:11 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him? If they don't think they are super bowl contenters this year. Its a no brainer to parlay the last cheap year of Cooks for pick no 32 which is the 4 Years cost control + option year on a player with risk..but upside. Salary cap league=contract situation inflated importance |
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Post by mrpickles on Mar 10, 2017 20:49:51 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him? Deep draft, cost certainty compounded by lack of cap space Michael Thomas and Willie Snead I swear that team has been in cap trouble for like 7 years |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 20:51:27 GMT -5
Pats are really going in an opposite direction here... bringing in a lot of outsiders. Always a red flag for me, stuff usually seems to fail Brady's in his 40s. The window is closing fast. Time to trade the picks for veterans and take one last crack at the big game. One last crack? Cooks is 23 years old.. |
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Post by The Bag on Mar 10, 2017 20:53:20 GMT -5
Why was NO so eager to get rid of him? If they don't think they are super bowl contenters this year. Its a no brainer to parlay the last cheap year of Cooks for pick no 32 which is the 4 Years cost control + option year on a player with risk..but upside. Salary cap league=contract situation inflated importance No lost that trade. I can't imagine someone else wouldn't offer a higher first. I'm sure when he eagles got their guys, they knew the trade stock would go down. |
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 21:42:06 GMT -5
Snoogs, McCourty's job is not to get INTs.
He may get a few next year though as he won't have to help as much over the top.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 21:51:15 GMT -5
Snoogs, McCourty's job is not to get INTs. He may get a few next year though as he won't have to help as much over the top. He's a free safety... One of his main jobs is to make plays on the ball... He's not a bad player... But he's not great, either. He should be pulling 5-6 picks a year, by default. |
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 21:56:44 GMT -5
Snoogs, McCourty's job is not to get INTs. He may get a few next year though as he won't have to help as much over the top. He's a free safety... One of his main jobs is to make plays on the ball... He's not a bad player... But he's not great, either. He should be pulling 5-6 picks a year, by default. Disagree, not how he is played. He is not lurking, trying to jump routes. He is providing help and teams generally throw away from him. How you feel about Butler is how I feel about McCourty, how I feel about McCourty is how you feel about Butler. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 22:01:31 GMT -5
He's a free safety... One of his main jobs is to make plays on the ball... He's not a bad player... But he's not great, either. He should be pulling 5-6 picks a year, by default. Disagree, not how he is played. He is not lurking, trying to jump routes. He is providing help and teams generally throw away from him. How you feel about Butler is how I feel about McCourty, how I feel about McCourty is how you feel about Butler. As a safety, you don't need to jump routes to get picks. You need to have ball skills to make plays on imperfectly throw passes downfield. |
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 22:08:39 GMT -5
Disagree, not how he is played. He is not lurking, trying to jump routes. He is providing help and teams generally throw away from him. How you feel about Butler is how I feel about McCourty, how I feel about McCourty is how you feel about Butler. As a safety, you don't need to jump routes to get picks. You need to have ball skills to make plays on imperfectly throw passes downfield. You need the imperfectly thrown pass to be perfectly thrown to your placement. That's more luck than skill. A QB imperfectly throwing it out of bounds isn't going to help you get INTs. |
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Post by mrpickles on Mar 10, 2017 22:13:53 GMT -5
So the way i see it
The pats have gotten worse
Down graded at TE
Down graded at DE
Slight upgrade at CB
Upgrade at WR
Still have no RB
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 22:19:38 GMT -5
So the way i see it The pats have gotten worse Down graded at TE --- Yes, their 2nd string TE is a downgrade. Down graded at DE --- BB plugs and succeeds here all the time. Slight upgrade at CB --- Losing Ryan and gaining Gilmore is a pretty big upgrade. Upgrade at WR ---- Huge upgrade at WR, which makes the allen/bennett switch meaningless. Still have no RB ---- They have all they need. Just hope they don't get AP. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Mar 10, 2017 22:21:33 GMT -5
So the way i see it The pats have gotten worse Down graded at TE --- Yes, their 2nd string TE is a downgrade. Down graded at DE --- BB plugs and succeeds here all the time. Slight upgrade at CB --- Losing Ryan and gaining Gilmore is a pretty big upgrade. Upgrade at WR ---- Huge upgrade at WR, which makes the allen/bennett switch meaningless. Still have no RB ---- They have all they need. Just hope they don't get AP. They've already passed on AP |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 22:26:02 GMT -5
Damn, Jabaal Sheard got $8.5 mil per year?  ? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 22:27:41 GMT -5
So the way i see it The pats have gotten worse Down graded at TE Down graded at DE Slight upgrade at CB Upgrade at WR Still have no RB Probably dont say that in public if you dont want to get laughed at.... |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 22:32:05 GMT -5
They've already passed on AP Has anyone signed Gillislee yet? |
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 22:33:45 GMT -5
They've already passed on AP Has anyone signed Gillislee yet? There are so many RBs out there. Sign Murray, get Franky all pissed off. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 22:38:54 GMT -5
Has anyone signed Gillislee yet? There are so many RBs out there. Sign Murray, get Franky all pissed off. I wouldnt hate another Blount return, but I am inteigued by Gillislee |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 10, 2017 23:26:08 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 11, 2017 5:13:29 GMT -5
from nfl.com “I’d take Glennon over Osweiler in a heartbeat,” said our NFC GM. “ He won’t do it himself, but if he has people around him, he’s got a chance.And that’s three-quarters of the league at quarterback. He has talent, he’s smart, he’s tough enough, for sure. He got the crap beaten out of him [in 2013 and ’14], and he kept coming back. He never dropped his eyes. He stood in there and threw it.
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