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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 11, 2017 3:54:56 GMT -5
Well the 2016 season ended with an unbelievable comeback victory by the Patriots in Super Bowl L! (Why wasn't Super Bowl 50 called Super Bowl L anyways) Well now the where are Tony Romo and Jimmy Garoppolo going to end up rumors are going to get lots of play. Likewise Levon Bell. The draft this season is very deep especially edge rushers, safeties, wide receivers, tight ends, and cornerbacks and is considered weak at Quarterback and the offensive line. Will any quarterback end up in the top ten picks (there always seems to be one that rises up the draft boards late) when next season is supposed to be the best quarterback draft since the year of the quarterback way back in 1983. Which elite starters will become cap casualties (I'm looking at you AP). Who will be a surprise coveted free agent making kajillions more than he's really worth. Are the Bills going to release Tyrod Taylor? Is DC going to pony up to resign Cousins? Where will they end up on the quarterback carousel if they are let go?
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 11, 2017 4:02:12 GMT -5
Well the 2016 season ended with an unbelievable comeback victory by the Patriots in Super Bowl L! (Why wasn't Super Bowl 50 called Super Bowl L anyways) Well now the where are Tony Romo and Jimmy Garoppolo going to end up rumors are going to get lots of play. Likewise Levon Bell. The draft this season is very deep especially edge rushers, safeties, wide receivers, tight ends, and cornerbacks and is considered weak at Quarterback and the offensive line. Will any quarterback end up in the top ten picks (there always seems to be one that rises up the draft boards late) when next season is supposed to be the best quarterback draft since the year of the quarterback way back in 1983. Which elite starters will become cap casualties (I'm looking at you AP). Who will be a surprise coveted free agent making kajillions more than he's really worth. Are the Bills going to release Tyrod Taylor? Is DC going to pony up to resign Cousins? Where will they end up on the quarterback carousel if they are let go? Well let the offseason begin Pretty pathetic list Matt Schaub at 3, should have pegged him at pick-6 |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Feb 20, 2017 10:28:24 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 25, 2017 14:22:03 GMT -5
Here's hoping Sam sees this and decides the college experience is better. Well it sounds better than Brake for Jake (Browning) or Mosh for Josh ( Rosen or Allen). Thing is nothings a sure thing these guys now that they are draft eligibles they will be studied and dissected. Some end up having warts (Matt Barkley) that send them in freefall and rightfully so and some will be misanalysed and fall cause of mob mentality (Dan Marino). There are qualities that can't be analyzed like character and will cause you can't gauge that. Cause if it was athletic fit a mold types that were the creme of the crop Jake Cutler would be a superstar and a guy that ran a 5.24 40 with the muscle consistency of an oyster and vertical jumped 24 inches and ended up drafted 199th would be a coach at his former high school. Heart and will to be the best are unmeasurable. Still I expect this to be the best class since the Eli Rivers Big Ben draft we won't add J. P. Losman to that list although Matt Schaub was a value pick as a 3rd rounder |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 26, 2017 2:31:35 GMT -5
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Feb 26, 2017 8:23:06 GMT -5
The Cooley comments are the thing I've watched pretty closely over the last couple of weeks... as well as Redskins fans reaction to them. Silence. I've never seen that before. My perception of Cooley has been of a Skip Bayless starter kit with little credibility other than being in Snyder's hip pocket. Add the Cousins thing to this mess and you're right. The Skins are getting ready to join the Niners and Browns. And all of my buddies rooting for them are going to be entertaining as hell. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Feb 26, 2017 8:30:35 GMT -5
Here's hoping Sam sees this and decides the college experience is better. Well it sounds better than Brake for Jake (Browning) or Mosh for Josh ( Rosen or Allen). Thing is nothings a sure thing these guys now that they are draft eligibles they will be studied and dissected. Some end up having warts (Matt Barkley) that send them in freefall and rightfully so and some will be misanalysed and fall cause of mob mentality (Dan Marino). There are qualities that can't be analyzed like character and will cause you can't gauge that. Cause if it was athletic fit a mold types that were the creme of the crop Jake Cutler would be a superstar and a guy that ran a 5.24 40 with the muscle consistency of an oyster and vertical jumped 24 inches and ended up drafted 199th would be a coach at his former high school. Heart and will to be the best are unmeasurable. Still I expect this to be the best class since the Eli Rivers Big Ben draft we won't add J. P. Losman to that list although Matt Schaub was a value pick as a 3rd rounder Selfishly - of course I want him to stay a full 4 years. Bigger picture - I really hope he breaks this string of USC QB's going to the NFL and sparing everyone to death. I think he can. He seems to have his head screwed on straight and his teammates respect the hell out of him. The talent speaks for itself. I haven't plugged into into the draft yet. Been reading and listening to bits and pieces from The Draft Narrative (personal local favorite where I will share a lot of input from) but I usually hold off until after the combine. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 26, 2017 12:22:19 GMT -5
Well it sounds better than Brake for Jake (Browning) or Mosh for Josh ( Rosen or Allen). Thing is nothings a sure thing these guys now that they are draft eligibles they will be studied and dissected. Some end up having warts (Matt Barkley) that send them in freefall and rightfully so and some will be misanalysed and fall cause of mob mentality (Dan Marino). There are qualities that can't be analyzed like character and will cause you can't gauge that. Cause if it was athletic fit a mold types that were the creme of the crop Jake Cutler would be a superstar and a guy that ran a 5.24 40 with the muscle consistency of an oyster and vertical jumped 24 inches and ended up drafted 199th would be a coach at his former high school. Heart and will to be the best are unmeasurable. Still I expect this to be the best class since the Eli Rivers Big Ben draft we won't add J. P. Losman to that list although Matt Schaub was a value pick as a 3rd rounder Selfishly - of course I want him to stay a full 4 years. Bigger picture - I really hope he breaks this string of USC QB's going to the NFL and sparing everyone to death. I think he can. He seems to have his head screwed on straight and his teammates respect the hell out of him. The talent speaks for itself. I haven't plugged into into the draft yet. Been reading and listening to bits and pieces from The Draft Narrative (personal local favorite where I will share a lot of input from) but I usually hold off until after the combine. It's starting to look like the wounds in the front office are going to fester in the Cousins contract talks Jeremiah whose dialled in to more than a few front offices states that Cousins is pissed at the state of the contract negotiations and wants to walk , they bungled negotiations last season when Cousins wanted Eli Rivers money, while the team wanted to give him Alex or Andy money Now to keep them it'll be Luck like money or I'm betting he walks. DC put themselves in a hole when they tagged him last season as it put the pressure on them to raise the ante, and they checked.Now the bets raised 6M to tag him which they are pretty well forced to do or watch him walk for a 3rd round compensatory pick. Pay him or do a sign and trade and decide between McCarron Garoppolo and Glennon which you like and go out and get him. Pay the money just don't guarantee too much |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 28, 2017 16:33:36 GMT -5
Selfishly - of course I want him to stay a full 4 years. Bigger picture - I really hope he breaks this string of USC QB's going to the NFL and sparing everyone to death. I think he can. He seems to have his head screwed on straight and his teammates respect the hell out of him. The talent speaks for itself. I haven't plugged into into the draft yet. Been reading and listening to bits and pieces from The Draft Narrative (personal local favorite where I will share a lot of input from) but I usually hold off until after the combine. It's starting to look like the wounds in the front office are going to fester in the Cousins contract talks Jeremiah whose dialled in to more than a few front offices states that Cousins is pissed at the state of the contract negotiations and wants to walk , they bungled negotiations last season when Cousins wanted Eli Rivers money, while the team wanted to give him Alex or Andy money Now to keep them it'll be Luck like money or I'm betting he walks. DC put themselves in a hole when they tagged him last season as it put the pressure on them to raise the ante, and they checked.Now the bets raised 6M to tag him which they are pretty well forced to do or watch him walk for a 3rd round compensatory pick. Pay him or do a sign and trade and decide between McCarron Garoppolo and Glennon which you like and go out and get him. Pay the money just don't guarantee too much By Chris Wesseling Around the NFL Writer Published: Feb. 28, 2017 at 01:28 p.m. The Redskins have enacted phase one of the Kirk Cousins conundrum. Washington placed the exclusive franchise tag on the quarterback, the team announced Tuesday. By opting for the exclusive designation, the Redskins have ensured that no other team can negotiate with Cousins absent Washington's permission. Because he's drawing the tag for a second consecutive season, Cousins' tender is expected to be valued at $23.94 million -- 120 percent of his 2016 salary. The two sides have until July 15 to negotiate a multi-year contract.
This is where Cousins' extreme leverage comes into play.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 28, 2017 17:08:04 GMT -5
It's starting to look like the wounds in the front office are going to fester in the Cousins contract talks Jeremiah whose dialled in to more than a few front offices states that Cousins is pissed at the state of the contract negotiations and wants to walk , they bungled negotiations last season when Cousins wanted Eli Rivers money, while the team wanted to give him Alex or Andy money Now to keep them it'll be Luck like money or I'm betting he walks. DC put themselves in a hole when they tagged him last season as it put the pressure on them to raise the ante, and they checked.Now the bets raised 6M to tag him which they are pretty well forced to do or watch him walk for a 3rd round compensatory pick. Pay him or do a sign and trade and decide between McCarron Garoppolo and Glennon which you like and go out and get him. Pay the money just don't guarantee too much By Chris Wesseling Around the NFL Writer Published: Feb. 28, 2017 at 01:28 p.m. The Redskins have enacted phase one of the Kirk Cousins conundrum. Washington placed the exclusive franchise tag on the quarterback, the team announced Tuesday. By opting for the exclusive designation, the Redskins have ensured that no other team can negotiate with Cousins absent Washington's permission. Because he's drawing the tag for a second consecutive season, Cousins' tender is expected to be valued at $23.94 million -- 120 percent of his 2016 salary. The two sides have until July 15 to negotiate a multi-year contract.
This is where Cousins' extreme leverage comes into play.
Now that his last two offensive coordinators -- Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay -- are overseeing their own teams in San Francisco and Los Angeles, Cousins' leverage ratchets up another notch with the knowledge that he has suitors outside of Washington. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 4, 2017 20:54:19 GMT -5
Here's hoping Sam sees this and decides the college experience is better. Ah not at that price. Okay the Niners get Cousins the Cowboys get the Niners pick 2nd overall and Washington gets Romo. Who made this up a Cowboys or a Niners fan. Cousins would cost at least 2 1st's Romo would cost a 3rd day pick, okay I get that it being a division rival that would have to bump to a 2nd rounder. Interesting idea as the Niners get a QB they want DC gets rid of a troubling contract impasse and uses Romo as a bridge for Trubulsky or Watson,with a 1st they'd use the Niners pick at 2, if it's Mahoomes or Kiser Gruden likes I'd figure they'd wait till DC's own pick at 17 and the Cowboys get out from Romo's contract Wins all around What's your take Otis?!? |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 4, 2017 21:16:39 GMT -5
my expectation for this off-season is San Francisco overpays for every player, and they still suck.
but I've heard that rumor is false and they do not plan on swapping Cousins for Romo or have any interest in Romo up in Washington. I don't think it'd be a good deal anyway
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 4, 2017 22:44:23 GMT -5
my expectation for this off-season is San Francisco overpays for every player, and they still suck. but I've heard that rumor is false and they do not plan on swapping Cousins for Romo or have any interest in Romo up in Washington. I don't think it'd be a good deal anyway Yeah I read somewhere that Shanahan is planning on bringing in Schaub to start this season and mentor Trubulsky who they'll select at 2. I've also read a few spots where DC would be amenable to trading Cousins cause they think he won't sign now unless he gets Luck money, send Cousins to his old OC Kyle and start McCoy as a bridge to their choice of Trubulsky or Watson and save 24M in cap space.I also think the Romo to DC is a red herring but stranger things have happened |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 5, 2017 4:39:38 GMT -5
my expectation for this off-season is San Francisco overpays for every player, and they still suck. but I've heard that rumor is false and they do not plan on swapping Cousins for Romo or have any interest in Romo up in Washington. I don't think it'd be a good deal anyway Yeah I read somewhere that Shanahan is planning on bringing in Schaub to start this season and mentor Trubulsky who they'll select at 2. I've also read a few spots where DC would be amenable to trading Cousins cause they think he won't sign now unless he gets Luck money, send Cousins to his old OC Kyle and start McCoy as a bridge to their choice of Trubulsky or Watson and save 24M in cap space.I also think the Romo to DC is a red herring but stranger things have happened honestly, besides the Texans and Broncos, who would want him? The Texans are a QB away from making a serious run at the SB. but Washington needs Cousins. he's saved them from quite a bit of losses the past couple of seasons. that's not a bad strategy as long as they don't overpay Schaub. they could trade for Cousins, but the team is so bad that they need all their draft picks and I have no idea who they could trade to Washington without giving up a lot, not that they have a lot to give anyway (besides picks). |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 5, 2017 15:55:45 GMT -5
Yeah I read somewhere that Shanahan is planning on bringing in Schaub to start this season and mentor Trubulsky who they'll select at 2. I've also read a few spots where DC would be amenable to trading Cousins cause they think he won't sign now unless he gets Luck money, send Cousins to his old OC Kyle and start McCoy as a bridge to their choice of Trubulsky or Watson and save 24M in cap space.I also think the Romo to DC is a red herring but stranger things have happened honestly, besides the Texans and Broncos, who would want him? The Texans are a QB away from making a serious run at the SB. but Washington needs Cousins. he's saved them from quite a bit of losses the past couple of seasons. that's not a bad strategy as long as they don't overpay Schaub. they could trade for Cousins, but the team is so bad that they need all their draft picks and I have no idea who they could trade to Washington without giving up a lot, not that they have a lot to give anyway (besides picks). Jets Bears Browns to name 3 more. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 5, 2017 23:49:39 GMT -5
Yeah I read somewhere that Shanahan is planning on bringing in Schaub to start this season and mentor Trubulsky who they'll select at 2. I've also read a few spots where DC would be amenable to trading Cousins cause they think he won't sign now unless he gets Luck money, send Cousins to his old OC Kyle and start McCoy as a bridge to their choice of Trubulsky or Watson and save 24M in cap space.I also think the Romo to DC is a red herring but stranger things have happened It appears the general knock on Cousins is he has been blessed with a deep cast of weapons. And while there is truth to that, the offense operates like a buzzsaw with Cousins. Don't overthink it. Just pay him. Before last season MMQB film junkie Andy Benoit was raving about McVay and his most QB friendly offense in the NFL e zN |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 6, 2017 4:07:13 GMT -5
honestly, besides the Texans and Broncos, who would want him? The Texans are a QB away from making a serious run at the SB. but Washington needs Cousins. he's saved them from quite a bit of losses the past couple of seasons. that's not a bad strategy as long as they don't overpay Schaub. they could trade for Cousins, but the team is so bad that they need all their draft picks and I have no idea who they could trade to Washington without giving up a lot, not that they have a lot to give anyway (besides picks). Jets Bears Browns to name 3 more. Romo isn't going to the Jets, Bears or Browns. and why would the Jets be interested in anybody? They're cutting players left and right. |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 6, 2017 4:09:36 GMT -5
It appears the general knock on Cousins is he has been blessed with a deep cast of weapons. And while there is truth to that, the offense operates like a buzzsaw with Cousins. Don't overthink it. Just pay him. Before last season MMQB film junkie Andy Benoit was raving about McVay and his most QB friendly offense in the NFL e zN I read a lot of his stuff, and he's in love with McVay. but Cousins is an excellent quarterback. and it's not just his weapons, it's him. if Washington wants to remain competitive, they need to sign him. I hope they realize that if they don't pay him now, he's gone. imagine the Texans with Cousins at QB? but I'm surprised they haven't paid him yet. there's got to be more to this than just they don't want to pay him what he's asking for. it's a lot deeper. |
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Post by Zig on Mar 6, 2017 7:08:54 GMT -5
Jets Bears Browns to name 3 more. Romo isn't going to the Jets, Bears or Browns. and why would the Jets be interested in anybody? They're cutting players left and right. Kaepernick will be the NJ Jets QB |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 6, 2017 8:23:51 GMT -5
Here's hoping Sam sees this and decides the college experience is better. Ah not at that price. Okay the Niners get Cousins the Cowboys get the Niners pick 2nd overall and Washington gets Romo. Who made this up a Cowboys or a Niners fan. Cousins would cost at least 2 1st's Romo would cost a 3rd day pick, okay I get that it being a division rival that would have to bump to a 2nd rounder. Interesting idea as the Niners get a QB they want DC gets rid of a troubling contract impasse and uses Romo as a bridge for Trubulsky or Watson,with a 1st they'd use the Niners pick at 2, if it's Mahoomes or Kiser Gruden likes I'd figure they'd wait till DC's own pick at 17 and the Cowboys get out from Romo's contract Wins all around What's your take Otis?!? My take FWIW... Ian Rapaport is an enormous blowhard who makes a living out of throwing shit at the wall to see if any of it will stick. This was nothing more than tossing a rumor out there to see if it had legs. And in the world of the internets, it was a matter of an hour or so before people were reporting it as something with teeth. Anyone with a shred of sense knew this trade would never happen for a number of reasons with Romo able to veto it at the very top of the list. And for the record - Rapaport is still chasing down that video of Dez at Walmart. Any day now... Before the Internet, we would refer to this as "birdcage liner material". |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 6, 2017 13:41:20 GMT -5
Before last season MMQB film junkie Andy Benoit was raving about McVay and his most QB friendly offense in the NFL e zN I read a lot of his stuff, and he's in love with McVay. but Cousins is an excellent quarterback. and it's not just his weapons, it's him. if Washington wants to remain competitive, they need to sign him. I hope they realize that if they don't pay him now, he's gone. imagine the Texans with Cousins at QB? but I'm surprised they haven't paid him yet. there's got to be more to this than just they don't want to pay him what he's asking for. it's a lot deeper. Don't know that he's excellent but he is pretty good and the DC vrass fucked it up last season when they could have had him in the 20M a season range and they held off hoping that he would fail and prove them tight Now they have to pay him 24 M and he wants Luck money. Word is they won't be able to sign him long term and that is why the to the Niners rumors exist |
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Post by EWA Beach PGH Fan on Mar 6, 2017 15:41:10 GMT -5
honestly, besides the Texans and Broncos, who would want him? The Texans are a QB away from making a serious run at the SB. but Washington needs Cousins. he's saved them from quite a bit of losses the past couple of seasons. that's not a bad strategy as long as they don't overpay Schaub. they could trade for Cousins, but the team is so bad that they need all their draft picks and I have no idea who they could trade to Washington without giving up a lot, not that they have a lot to give anyway (besides picks). Jets Bears Browns to name 3 more. The Browns are as bad as SF so, they need all their picks to get better too. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 6, 2017 16:34:03 GMT -5
Jets Bears Browns to name 3 more. The Browns are as bad as SF so, they need all their picks to get better too. No one is as bad as the Niners roster the Browns have a few pieces the Niners have the #2 pick and that's it |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 6, 2017 23:31:12 GMT -5
It's starting to look like the wounds in the front office are going to fester in the Cousins contract talks Jeremiah whose dialled in to more than a few front offices states that Cousins is pissed at the state of the contract negotiations and wants to walk , they bungled negotiations last season when Cousins wanted Eli Rivers money, while the team wanted to give him Alex or Andy money Now to keep them it'll be Luck like money or I'm betting he walks. DC put themselves in a hole when they tagged him last season as it put the pressure on them to raise the ante, and they checked.Now the bets raised 6M to tag him which they are pretty well forced to do or watch him walk for a 3rd round compensatory pick. Pay him or do a sign and trade and decide between McCarron Garoppolo and Glennon which you like and go out and get him. Pay the money just don't guarantee too much By Chris Wesseling Around the NFL Writer Published: Feb. 28, 2017 at 01:28 p.m. The Redskins have enacted phase one of the Kirk Cousins conundrum. Washington placed the exclusive franchise tag on the quarterback, the team announced Tuesday. By opting for the exclusive designation, the Redskins have ensured that no other team can negotiate with Cousins absent Washington's permission. Because he's drawing the tag for a second consecutive season, Cousins' tender is expected to be valued at $23.94 million -- 120 percent of his 2016 salary. The two sides have until July 15 to negotiate a multi-year contract.
This is where Cousins' extreme leverage comes into play.
If they can't sign him by the draft I can see them trading him to the Niners for a couple high picks (including the '17 #2) as his 2018 Franchise tag would be $34,478,784 and at that price he has no value |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 7, 2017 6:33:08 GMT -5
I read a lot of his stuff, and he's in love with McVay. but Cousins is an excellent quarterback. and it's not just his weapons, it's him. if Washington wants to remain competitive, they need to sign him. I hope they realize that if they don't pay him now, he's gone. imagine the Texans with Cousins at QB? but I'm surprised they haven't paid him yet. there's got to be more to this than just they don't want to pay him what he's asking for. it's a lot deeper. I'm guessing a lot of it goes back to the 2012 draft. Dan Snyder and/or Bruce Allen don't want to admit they were wrong. They gave up all that draft capital to move up for RGIII. And they landed Kirk Cousins in the 4th round. Rumor was the Shanahan's hated the RGIII trade. And preferred Cousins. So while the Redskins front office has accepted the fact that RGIII is a bust, and have moved on, I think it's another giant ego slap for them to admit that Cousins is actually a franchise QB. They either need to swallow their pride or relegate themselves back to the NFC East cellar. that whole scenario sounds ridiculous to me. it's something Snyder would definitely do, but they need to make a decision. have a quarterback and be smart and reasonable, or act like children and ruin a fan base. everybody saw it last season multiple times, Cousins wants to get paid. and he won't wait around. honestly, I don't think he wants to play for Washington much longer. |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 7, 2017 6:52:18 GMT -5
Romo isn't going to the Jets, Bears or Browns. and why would the Jets be interested in anybody? They're cutting players left and right. Kaepernick will be the NJ Jets QB possible. be extremely interesting, I'm sure he'd love the media coverage. apparently, since the Jets are confident that Glennon is going to Chicago. they're looking at Tyrod Taylor to compete with Petty & Hackenburg for the starting QB spot. |
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Post by Zig on Mar 7, 2017 7:09:46 GMT -5
Kaepernick will be the NJ Jets QB possible. be extremely interesting, I'm sure he'd love the media coverage. apparently, since the Jets are confident that Glennon is going to Chicago. they're looking at Tyrod Taylor to compete with Petty & Hackenburg for the starting QB spot. and his GF lives in NY |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 7, 2017 7:17:57 GMT -5
haven't heard any links tied to him yet. but these next 48 hours will be very big for free agency. we'll see what kind of talks Kaepernick experiences. I don't think he'd be a good fit with the Jets.
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