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Post by jets12 on Mar 11, 2017 8:22:16 GMT -5
For example, I think it's a great trade for NE, I think it'd be a horrible trade for the Jets....even if you worked out the picks to equal out the position in the first round.
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 11, 2017 10:35:28 GMT -5
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 11, 2017 10:56:46 GMT -5
Cowboys agree to 4-year deal to re-sign WR Terrance WilliamsPlain and simple - I'm very happy with this signing. It's the right price point for a #2 receiver and insures continuity with the offense. Butler at $1.1M - same thing for the #4 guy. Best thing - they have no reason to draft a WR. They can concentrate on the glaring needs on this team. CB... DE... DT...S...
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 11, 2017 10:59:45 GMT -5
So the unofficial mouthpiece of the Redskins front office is all the sudden full of remorse? Bullshit! |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 11, 2017 13:41:05 GMT -5
Cowboys agree to 4-year deal to re-sign WR Terrance WilliamsPlain and simple - I'm very happy with this signing. It's the right price point for a #2 receiver and insures continuity with the offense. Butler at $1.1M - same thing for the #4 guy. Best thing - they have no reason to draft a WR. They can concentrate on the glaring needs on this team. CB... DE... DT...S... When did you become the Cowboys PR spin doctor anyways. Yeah I get it he slots in nice for the position. The issue is wasn't there a cheap upgrade around, quite obvious the WR market is quite depressed this season Thursdays headlines on the players salaries were leaked by their agent's as per usual (pat yourself on the back there buddy) Jeffery is earning $9.5 million in base salary, with $4.5 million more in incentives. Pryor is earning a $6 million base salary from Washington. That's a #1 with some issues and a quasi-potential #1 who is still as green as the grass he runs on, as last season was the second in his life he's played that position, but I digress. Looking (and he is that definitely ) at Dez as your #1 you want the complimentary parts, which is why I love DeSean to the Bucs I think he fits great with Evans and Marshall to the Jints could be a great get too, little worried about the chemistry there McAdoo OC Mike Sullivan, and WR coach Adam Henry better have a locker room game plan in place. Sorry digressing again Dez is a smaller version of Calvin Johnson IMO in that he doesn't have to beat his defender to produce in that until that ball hits the ground the defender is ALWAYS the defender, as such, I would believe a true burner WITH HANDS I'm talking to you Ted Ginn in a poor man's DeSean sorta way and a first down magnet in the Troy Brown Ricky Proehl mold. Beasley can be your Troy/Ricky hybrid. I'd have seen how cheap I could get Cordarelle Patterson I know he's never consistently produced but if I got him on the cheap I know I'd have a All-Pro calibre returner at worst before I worried about Terrence., He would still be on the market in a week probably a month |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 11, 2017 14:07:37 GMT -5
Well - this changes things a little. Add OL to the list of draft items.
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 11, 2017 14:09:27 GMT -5
Cowboys agree to 4-year deal to re-sign WR Terrance WilliamsPlain and simple - I'm very happy with this signing. It's the right price point for a #2 receiver and insures continuity with the offense. Butler at $1.1M - same thing for the #4 guy. Best thing - they have no reason to draft a WR. They can concentrate on the glaring needs on this team. CB... DE... DT...S... When did you become the Cowboys PR spin doctor anyways. Yeah I get it he slots in nice for the position. The issue is wasn't there a cheap upgrade around, quite obvious the WR market is quite depressed this season Thursdays headlines on the players salaries were leaked by their agent's as per usual (pat yourself on the back there buddy) Jeffery is earning $9.5 million in base salary, with $4.5 million more in incentives. Pryor is earning a $6 million base salary from Washington. That's a #1 with some issues and a quasi-potential #1 who is still as green as the grass he runs on, as last season was the second in his life he's played that position, but I digress. Looking (and he is that definitely ) at Dez as your #1 you want the complimentary parts, which is why I love DeSean to the Bucs I think he fits great with Evans and Marshall to the Jints could be a great get too, little worried about the chemistry there McAdoo OC Mike Sullivan, and WR coach Adam Henry better have a locker room game plan in place. Sorry digressing again Dez is a smaller version of Calvin Johnson IMO in that he doesn't have to beat his defender to produce in that until that ball hits the ground the defender is ALWAYS the defender, as such, I would believe a true burner WITH HANDS I'm talking to you Ted Ginn in a poor man's DeSean sorta way and a first down magnet in the Troy Brown Ricky Proehl mold. Beasley can be your Troy/Ricky hybrid. I'd have seen how cheap I could get Cordarelle Patterson I know he's never consistently produced but if I got him on the cheap I know I'd have a All-Pro calibre returner at worst before I worried about Terrence., He would still be on the market in a week probably a month For the money the Cowboys had available for free agents and the needs at WR, these are actually solid selections. No argument about Dez and his route running. But - if Dak showed one thing last season, he showed that he will go to the open guy. Dez better get open. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 11, 2017 14:35:26 GMT -5
So the unofficial mouthpiece of the Redskins front office is all the sudden full of remorse? Bullshit! At first I thought you were talking about Breer now I see an invisible tweet |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 11, 2017 15:05:37 GMT -5
Well - this changes things a little. Add OL to the list of draft items. Betting a cheaper upgrade at WR2 sounds pretty good right now |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 11, 2017 15:28:02 GMT -5
Cowboys agree to 4-year deal to re-sign WR Terrance WilliamsPlain and simple - I'm very happy with this signing. It's the right price point for a #2 receiver and insures continuity with the offense. Butler at $1.1M - same thing for the #4 guy. Best thing - they have no reason to draft a WR. They can concentrate on the glaring needs on this team. CB... DE... DT...S... When did you become the Cowboys PR spin doctor anyways. Yeah I get it he slots in nice for the position. The issue is wasn't there a cheap upgrade around, quite obvious the WR market is quite depressed this season Thursdays headlines on the players salaries were leaked by their agent's as per usual (pat yourself on the back there buddy) Jeffery is earning $9.5 million in base salary, with $4.5 million more in incentives. Pryor is earning a $6 million base salary from Washington. That's a #1 with some issues and a quasi-potential #1 who is still as green as the grass he runs on, as last season was the second in his life he's played that position, but I digress. Looking (and he is that definitely ) at Dez as your #1 you want the complimentary parts, which is why I love DeSean to the Bucs I think he fits great with Evans and Marshall to the Jints could be a great get too, little worried about the chemistry there McAdoo OC Mike Sullivan, and WR coach Adam Henry better have a locker room game plan in place. Sorry digressing again Dez is a smaller version of Calvin Johnson IMO in that he doesn't have to beat his defender to produce in that until that ball hits the ground the defender is ALWAYS the defender, as such, I would believe a true burner WITH HANDS I'm talking to you Ted Ginn in a poor man's DeSean sorta way and a first down magnet in the Troy Brown Ricky Proehl mold. Beasley can be your Troy/Ricky hybrid. I'd have seen how cheap I could get Cordarelle Patterson I know he's never consistently produced but if I got him on the cheap I know I'd have a All-Pro calibre returner at worst before I worried about Terrence., He would still be on the market in a week probably a month I see Otis' point, given the money. But I see yours even more Swampy. I'd rather take a shot at either burner (although Patterson has proven to be damn near useless as a receiver). Ginn would prolly be great next to Bryant. Plus there is a low ceiling with T Will, and the floor is the uselessness he displayed the previous year when Bryant was out most of the season. He's a poor man's Alvin Harper. We saw what happened when the Buccaneers were under the mistaken impression that Harper was such a strong #2 behind Michael Irvin in the Cowboys' heydey that they could turn him into a #1. They dropped a ton of jack on him only to discover that the #2 was his ceiling. Then his ego got too big and he couldn't even get back to being a decent #2 again. I know that the 'Pokes have no intent on him ever being the #1, just saying he reminds me of Harper. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 11, 2017 18:15:55 GMT -5
When did you become the Cowboys PR spin doctor anyways. Yeah I get it he slots in nice for the position. The issue is wasn't there a cheap upgrade around, quite obvious the WR market is quite depressed this season Thursdays headlines on the players salaries were leaked by their agent's as per usual (pat yourself on the back there buddy) Jeffery is earning $9.5 million in base salary, with $4.5 million more in incentives. Pryor is earning a $6 million base salary from Washington. That's a #1 with some issues and a quasi-potential #1 who is still as green as the grass he runs on, as last season was the second in his life he's played that position, but I digress. Looking (and he is that definitely ) at Dez as your #1 you want the complimentary parts, which is why I love DeSean to the Bucs I think he fits great with Evans and Marshall to the Jints could be a great get too, little worried about the chemistry there McAdoo OC Mike Sullivan, and WR coach Adam Henry better have a locker room game plan in place. Sorry digressing again Dez is a smaller version of Calvin Johnson IMO in that he doesn't have to beat his defender to produce in that until that ball hits the ground the defender is ALWAYS the defender, as such, I would believe a true burner WITH HANDS I'm talking to you Ted Ginn in a poor man's DeSean sorta way and a first down magnet in the Troy Brown Ricky Proehl mold. Beasley can be your Troy/Ricky hybrid. I'd have seen how cheap I could get Cordarelle Patterson I know he's never consistently produced but if I got him on the cheap I know I'd have a All-Pro calibre returner at worst before I worried about Terrence., He would still be on the market in a week probably a month I see Otis' point, given the money. But I see yours even more Swampy. I'd rather take a shot at either burner (although Patterson has proven to be damn near useless as a receiver). Ginn would prolly be great next to Bryant. Plus there is a low ceiling with T Will, and the floor is the uselessness he displayed the previous year when Bryant was out most of the season. He's a poor man's Alvin Harper. We saw what happened when the Buccaneers were under the mistaken impression that Harper was such a strong #2 behind Michael Irvin in the Cowboys' heydey that they could turn him into a #1. They dropped a ton of jack on him only to discover that the #2 was his ceiling. Then his ego got too big and he couldn't even get back to being a decent #2 again. I know that the 'Pokes have no intent on him ever being the #1, just saying he reminds me of Harper. Patterson coming out of college thought a route tree was a tree which produced ginseng tea. He relied on his speed to round off the routes he did run. He started to come on this season but was behind Diggs and breakout Theilen but he is an upgrade at returner on just about any team sans maybe KC with Tyreek Hill Seattle with Lockett (okay maybe that's homer but he is a starter as well). With Dez across needing double team the CB against Cordarelle ain't getting any over help especially with Zeke keeping extra men in the box |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 11, 2017 20:27:45 GMT -5
from NFL.com
Draft's sweet spot: The first round of the upcoming draft is going to feature several future Pro Bowlers. However, the sweet spot of this draft is actually in the second and third rounds. I can't recall a better year to own multiple selections between picks 33 and 107. In my opinion, there is very little separation from a player you can find at pick 20 vs. the player you can find at pick 60. A player like UCLA cornerback Fabian Moreau would be a no-brainer first-round pick in most years, but he's likely to land in the second round in this talented draft class. For those picking outside the top 5, this is the perfect year to trade down and accumulate extra picks in the second and third rounds. -- Daniel Jeremiah
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 12, 2017 15:18:50 GMT -5
Good God...there goes the "Hoodie" being the "Hoodie" again! Well looks like he has trained his disciple well Wagner and Lang are an upgrade on Reilly and Larry. Although I still wish they had kept Warford as well Detroit Lions sign guard T.J. Lang to three-year deal |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 12, 2017 15:29:48 GMT -5
Good God...there goes the "Hoodie" being the "Hoodie" again! Well looks like he has trained his disciple well Wagner and Lang are an upgrade on Reilly and Larry. Although I still wish they had kept Warford as well Detroit Lions sign guard T.J. Lang to three-year dealCan't have them all. That may be a better line than the days of Mike Utley, Eric Andolsek, Eric Sanders, Kevin Glover and Lomas Brown. People said that Barry sanders ran without an o-line...they said it even around here. That was B.S. though...even after Utley was paralyzed and Andolsek killed in that tragic accident on his front lawn, that was an outstanding line. And possibly the first time in memory that they have a truly elite unit anywhere on the field since that OL unit in the early 1990s. Honorable mention to the 2014 D-line, but that was truly a one-trick pony. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 12, 2017 15:41:16 GMT -5
So the way i see it The pats have gotten worse Down graded at TE Quite a bit but Gronk's healthy Down graded at DE slight but potential upside and cheaperSlight upgrade at CB give that a pushUpgrade at WR Quite a bit
Still have no RB Lots on the market and as they like to pay less than 3M for them they'll waitProbably dont say that in public if you dont want to get laughed at.... Why not for the most part it's true. The point he missed out on is that besides Gilmore they were cheaper |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 12, 2017 16:58:59 GMT -5
You need the imperfectly thrown pass to be perfectly thrown to your placement. That's more luck than skill. A QB imperfectly throwing it out of bounds isn't going to help you get INTs. As stated, it depends on the defensive scheme. And obviously it can vary per play. But in general I would say that the safety is the last line of defense. And therefore his main job is to ensure that the defense does not get beat deep. I'd be more inclined to grade a safety on the number of big plays allowed rather than turnovers forced. Amen to that |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 12, 2017 17:50:54 GMT -5
Jets have emerged as a contender for Hightower...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 12, 2017 19:43:38 GMT -5
Jets close to a deal with Cleveland for Osweiler. Cleveland will pay 75% of the money and the Jets will send a 3rd round pick
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Post by Chappion on Mar 12, 2017 21:13:15 GMT -5
Jets close to a deal with Cleveland for Osweiler. Cleveland will pay 75% of the money and the Jets will send a 3rd round pick It's as if the Jets don't even show interest until a player reaches a certain level of shittiness. When you are taking a QB the Browns don't even want?!??! That's pretty low. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 10:41:43 GMT -5
Hightower visiting the Steelers. It would be such a wicked pissah if he signed on with them.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 13, 2017 11:27:35 GMT -5
Peter King actually made me laugh
Jay Cutler evidently has poison sumac. I get that being in the same room with him is like drinking pickle juice, but go figure no one wanting him for nothing. He’s become Jeff George.
Perfect analogy multi million dollar talent 5 cent personality
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 13, 2017 11:29:18 GMT -5
Picks in the top 65: Cleveland 5, New England 0.
Start a new round of Jimmy G rumors
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 13, 2017 17:57:21 GMT -5
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Post by mell on Mar 14, 2017 9:36:26 GMT -5
Cordarelle Patterson signs with the Raiders
Another weapon for Carr
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 9:55:46 GMT -5
tyrod taylor sucks so much he took a 10 mil paycut to keep his job in buffalo.
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Post by lemiwinks on Mar 14, 2017 11:38:07 GMT -5
Cordarelle Patterson signs with the Raiders Another weapon for Carr he is more of a return weapon....not so much as a receiver.....he is not a starter. |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 14, 2017 11:50:06 GMT -5
Cordarelle Patterson signs with the Raiders Another weapon for Carr he is more of a return weapon....not so much as a receiver.....he is not a starter. exactly. Desmond Howard lite. Can't run routes. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 12:19:36 GMT -5
seahawks got eddie lacy  |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 15, 2017 20:56:15 GMT -5
Cordarelle Patterson signs with the Raiders Another weapon for Carr he is more of a return weapon....not so much as a receiver.....he is not a starter. He is a high end return weapon .. he started to come on last season with the Vikes 50 receptions. He'll be a WR3 with the potential to be a 2 |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 15, 2017 21:17:19 GMT -5
seahawks got eddie lacy he is more of a return weapon....not so much as a receiver.....he is not a starter. He is a high end return weapon .. he started to come on last season with the Vikes 50 receptions. He'll be a WR3 with the potential to be a 2 Guys who can stretch the field but can't catch have been the norm for years most recently Ted Ginn Jr. Defenses still have to respect the speed and it's not like Cordarelle is a smurf He is a great complimentary fit to Cooper and Crabtree. |
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