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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 17:26:19 GMT -5
so he deserves the HOF based on his Boston career only? Lololol You literally just brought up the AL/NL narrative. Not me, Frank. You but you want to ignore the baltimore years not me, penis. You
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 16, 2017 17:41:15 GMT -5
Yeah Sosa is basically forgotten - not blackballed, forgotten It's strange Not that I really care......he is a douche.....just be consistent. Think if im voting roiders. Manny and Sheffield go before Sosa No?
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 18:10:46 GMT -5
jeff kent should get more votes too
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Post by Zig on Jan 16, 2017 18:27:36 GMT -5
jeff kent should get more votes too However many he got was just the right amount imo
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 18:29:30 GMT -5
jeff kent should get more votes too However many he got was just the right amount imo as long as you remember this Kent .290 .356 .500 .855 123 Pedroia .301 .366 .445 .811 115
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 18:30:41 GMT -5
Jeter - 100% of the votes
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Post by Zig on Jan 16, 2017 18:42:56 GMT -5
However many he got was just the right amount imo as long as you remember this Kent .290 .356 .500 .855 123 Pedroia .301 .366 .445 .811 115 no way I could remember all that You win this round my worthy adversary but I shall return! probably
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 18:45:34 GMT -5
as long as you remember this Kent .290 .356 .500 .855 123 Pedroia .301 .366 .445 .811 115 no way I could remember all that You win this round my worthy adversary but I shall return! probably it'll be in the archives when we search it in 15 years
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Post by Chappion on Jan 16, 2017 19:21:47 GMT -5
Manny failed 2(?) drug tests? Sosa didn't. Manny was the better player, but I doubt eother gets in. If number of failed drug tests damns Manny and absolves Sosa, in your mind, then.... Ok? Manny was a much better hitter than Sosa. That's no contest. But Manny made a mockery of himself at the end of his career. I wouldn't vote for either this year.
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Post by Chappion on Jan 16, 2017 19:26:05 GMT -5
Bagwell.....Pudge.....
you take it into account or you don't.......you don't get to selectively choose some but not others because Sosa, Manny are douches.
I completely agree.... You said in your post that you were omitting steroids and yet still left Manny out. You then said you missed Manny's name.. No harm, no foul.. Sosa obviously had the numbers... But if you ask me, he is the absolute poster child for "decemt player who put up hal of fame atats because of the juice" To me, Manny was just an apples and oranges better hitting talent. Yeah. Agreed here. Sosa and McGwire will need to buy a ticket to get in. Palmeiro, too. He had phenomenal numbers.
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Post by Chappion on Jan 16, 2017 19:50:05 GMT -5
jeff kent should get more votes too And Edgar Martinez should get LESS votes that he gets.
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Post by Scalious on Jan 16, 2017 19:51:45 GMT -5
jeff kent should get more votes too And Edgar Martinez should get LESS votes that he gets. y?
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 19:54:57 GMT -5
jeff kent should get more votes too And Edgar Martinez should get LESS votes that he gets. words trying to figure that one out
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 19:57:57 GMT -5
Edgar Martinez
Compare Stats to Similars Will Clark (902) John Olerud (885) Moises Alou (879) Magglio Ordonez (875) Bob Johnson (863) Matt Holliday (862) Bernie Williams (860) Paul O'Neill (852) Lance Berkman (851) Ellis Burks (850)
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Post by Chappion on Jan 16, 2017 19:59:32 GMT -5
Edgar Martinez Compare Stats to Similars Will Clark (902) John Olerud (885) Moises Alou (879) Magglio Ordonez (875) Bob Johnson (863) Matt Holliday (862) Bernie Williams (860) Paul O'Neill (852) Lance Berkman (851) Ellis Burks (850) Wow. It's a list of good players that didn't get in the HOF. Imagine that.
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Post by Chappion on Jan 16, 2017 20:01:40 GMT -5
And Edgar Martinez should get LESS votes that he gets. y? He was a really good hitter. Just doesn't have the numbers. Kind of like Will Clark and John Olerud.
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Post by Chappion on Jan 16, 2017 20:02:08 GMT -5
And Edgar Martinez should get LESS votes that he gets. words trying to figure that one out Galarraga and/or McGriff >>> Edgar Martinez
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 16, 2017 20:30:15 GMT -5
If number of failed drug tests damns Manny and absolves Sosa, in your mind, then.... Ok? Manny was a much better hitter than Sosa. That's no contest. But Manny made a mockery of himself at the end of his career. I wouldn't vote for either this year. I respect that because there is the ubiquitous morality clause. Ultimately, Scal, I'd be shocked if your opinion of Manny is anything other than "layup for the hall of fame" if talent isn't the deciding factor. Because Albert Pujols is the only hitter that has drawn breath in your lifetime that was a better right handed bat than Manny was.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 17:57:26 GMT -5
Tim Raines and Jeff Bagwell are elected to the Hall of Fame
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 18, 2017 17:58:49 GMT -5
Tim Raines and Jeff Bagwell are elected to the Hall of Fame Piazza and Bagwell don't get in the first time because they were "suspect" So guess they aren't anymore
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 18, 2017 18:08:38 GMT -5
Pudge...
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In...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 18, 2017 18:11:41 GMT -5
Bagwell, Raines and Pudge elected to the Hall of Fame
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 18, 2017 18:14:59 GMT -5
Bagwell is in, but Bonds isnt....
Fuck offfffffff
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 18:16:55 GMT -5
Bagwell is in, but Bonds isnt.... Fuck offfffffff Lol BIGGIO is in but bonds isnt
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 18, 2017 18:18:56 GMT -5
How do you two not point out Pudge in Bonds isnt
THAT is the comp numbnuts
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 18, 2017 18:26:39 GMT -5
How do you two not point out Pudge in Bonds isnt THAT is the comp numbnuts It's now impossible to keep Bonds and Clemens out. Cat's out of the bag. Any arguments to the contrary will fall on deaf ears.
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 18:33:55 GMT -5
Tim Raines and Jeff Bagwell are elected to the Hall of Fame coke fiend(and probably roider)......and roider
nice job voters.....
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 18:36:21 GMT -5
another roider.....
don't get me wrong, he should get in....but if you let him in, how can you keep out Bonds, Manny & Clemens?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 18:37:02 GMT -5
another roider.....
don't get me wrong, he should get in....but if you let him in, how can you keep out Bonds, Manny & Clemens?
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 18, 2017 18:37:39 GMT -5
How do you two not point out Pudge in Bonds isnt THAT is the comp numbnuts It's now impossible to keep Bonds and Clemens out. Cat's out of the bag. Any arguments to the contrary will fall on deaf ears. those fucking idiots will try to justify it.....you cant.
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