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Post by The Bag on Jun 3, 2014 13:18:45 GMT -5
"when talking about Ortiz's postseason resume, only 2013 can be brought...ummm...cuz otherwise I look retarded" When debunking the notion that he was super huge important last postseason, it's pretty slick to say "we can't only look at 2013" a guy who raked .455 in the playoffs WASNT super huge important?? ill bite. who WAS "super huge important" last post-season/world series? maybe we can convince mlb to give the mvp to someone else.
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 13:19:11 GMT -5
"the only way to contribute to a win is a game tying/winning hit" uhhhhh or are we still ripping on ortiz for the world series he hit .700 in? hahahahhaha "did nothing to win them a game"
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 3, 2014 13:20:08 GMT -5
When debunking the notion that he was super huge important last postseason, it's pretty slick to say "we can't only look at 2013" a guy who raked .455 in the playoffs WASNT super huge important?? ill bite. who WAS "super huge important" last post-season/world series? maybe we can convince mlb to give the mvp to someone else. Lester was the single biggest reason they won last year Ortiz has to be #2 Uehara or Victorino #3?
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:20:30 GMT -5
Because he dh allows you to give guys a day of rest from the field without losing heir bat in the lineup. Think Pedroia, Napoli, Victorino or AJP could stand to benefit from 15 games a season where they don't have to play in the field? Again..if he was a league average type DH? You'd have a point... .950 career OPS with boston...that's not a type of guy you complain about not being able to DH lesser hitters for... So because he is a good hitter, that means the other key players in your lineup won't benefit from additional rest from the field?
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 13:20:51 GMT -5
When debunking the notion that he was super huge important last postseason, it's pretty slick to say "we can't only look at 2013" a guy who raked .455 in the playoffs WASNT super huge important?? ill bite. who WAS "super huge important" last post-season/world series? maybe we can convince mlb to give the mvp to someone else. "johnny gomes hit the most impressive .118 in any world series in history!!!!"
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Post by The Bag on Jun 3, 2014 13:21:28 GMT -5
a guy who raked .455 in the playoffs WASNT super huge important?? ill bite. who WAS "super huge important" last post-season/world series? maybe we can convince mlb to give the mvp to someone else. Lester was the single biggest reason they won last year Ortiz has to be #2 Uehara or Victorino #3? i go ortiz koji lester/lackey
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 13:22:33 GMT -5
a guy who raked .455 in the playoffs WASNT super huge important?? ill bite. who WAS "super huge important" last post-season/world series? maybe we can convince mlb to give the mvp to someone else. Lester was the single biggest reason they won last year Ortiz has to be #2 Uehara or Victorino #3? I'd say 1/1a with lester and ortiz...and Uhera ahead of Vic...Vic was largely a dead bat after the tampa series...he had some timely hits...no argument...but, he was a fucking out machine for 2/3's of the postseason
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:29:21 GMT -5
It's comical the amount of mileage Ortiz is getting off of that one grand slam vs Detroit last year... it's you that keeps moving the goal posts... First ti was "overrated post season resume" which yank quoted you on... Yam responds to such absurdity by pointing how many great posteasons he's had... You move the goal post to just the grand slam against detroit... Seems you can keep your arguments straight.... You flat out said "over rated posteason resume" Defend it...THE ENTIRETY of it...not one cherry picked series... Here I thought Shane Victorino and Jhonny Gomes had the two biggest hits of the World Series.... All the while it was Ortiz's 3 RBI in a seven run victory that really put them over the top... Fucking ridiculous...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:30:31 GMT -5
Point out his game winning hits... Or his game tying hits... Spoiler alert... There were none... "the only way to contribute to a win is a game tying/winning hit" "all time awesome World Series awesome awesomeness of greatness" Didn't win one game for them...
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 13:31:32 GMT -5
it's you that keeps moving the goal posts... First ti was "overrated post season resume" which yank quoted you on... Yam responds to such absurdity by pointing how many great posteasons he's had... You move the goal post to just the grand slam against detroit... Seems you can keep your arguments straight.... You flat out said "over rated posteason resume" Defend it...THE ENTIRETY of it...not one cherry picked series... Here I thought Shane Victorino and Jhonny Gomes had the two biggest hits of the World Series.... All the while it was Ortiz's 3 RBI in a seven run victory that really put them over the top... Fucking ridiculous... So...you're not going to address your claim that his "postseason resume" is over rated? Coward.
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 13:31:58 GMT -5
"the only way to contribute to a win is a game tying/winning hit" "all time awesome World Series awesome awesomeness of greatness" Didn't win one game for them... "the only way to contribute to a win is a game tying/winning hit"
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:33:11 GMT -5
uhhhhh or are we still ripping on ortiz for the world series he hit .700 in? hahahahhaha "did nothing to win them a game" And we have come full circle... "How dare you downplay ortizs 2013 world series! Look at him in the 04 ALCS!"
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Post by The Bag on Jun 3, 2014 13:34:22 GMT -5
it's you that keeps moving the goal posts... First ti was "overrated post season resume" which yank quoted you on... Yam responds to such absurdity by pointing how many great posteasons he's had... You move the goal post to just the grand slam against detroit... Seems you can keep your arguments straight.... You flat out said "over rated posteason resume" Defend it...THE ENTIRETY of it...not one cherry picked series... Here I thought Shane Victorino and Jhonny Gomes had the two biggest hits of the World Series.... All the while it was Ortiz's 3 RBI in a seven run victory that really put them over the top... Fucking ridiculous... "you cant cherrypick the game he his a massive series changing grand slam, but i can cherry pick a game where his rbi werent walk offs so he wasnt important" - desperate people
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:34:29 GMT -5
a guy who raked .455 in the playoffs WASNT super huge important?? ill bite. who WAS "super huge important" last post-season/world series? maybe we can convince mlb to give the mvp to someone else. "johnny gomes hit the most impressive .118 in any world series in history!!!!" "Who cares about game winning home runs when we have 2 run doubles in 7-run routs!"
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 13:35:42 GMT -5
"did nothing to win them a game" And we have come full circle... "How dare you downplay ortizs 2013 world series! Look at him in the 04 ALCS!" You called his "postseason resume" over rated... then moved the goal posts when your realized how dumb that made you look...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:36:02 GMT -5
Lester was the single biggest reason they won last year Ortiz has to be #2 Uehara or Victorino #3? I'd say 1/1a with lester and ortiz...and Uhera ahead of Vic...Vic was largely a dead bat after the tampa series...he had some timely hits...no argument...but, he was a fucking out machine for 2/3's of the postseason Ortiz 1a... Dude, put the fucking whiskey bottle down... Brandon Workman contributed more to actual victories than Ortiz did..
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 3, 2014 13:39:20 GMT -5
Lester was the single biggest reason they won last year Ortiz has to be #2 Uehara or Victorino #3? i go ortiz koji lester/lackey lester at #3? and I mean entire postseason, should have clarified
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 13:39:42 GMT -5
I'd say 1/1a with lester and ortiz...and Uhera ahead of Vic...Vic was largely a dead bat after the tampa series...he had some timely hits...no argument...but, he was a fucking out machine for 2/3's of the postseason Ortiz 1a... Dude, put the fucking whiskey bottle down... Brandon Workman contributed more to actual victories than Ortiz did.. LOL... okay. Single biggest hit in the entire post season...without, they probably don't make it past detroit, epic world series...was surpassed by workman throwing 8.2 innings of relief...most of which recorded in losses or blowout wins. I'm down with this clown...done arguing with retards...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:39:59 GMT -5
Here I thought Shane Victorino and Jhonny Gomes had the two biggest hits of the World Series.... All the while it was Ortiz's 3 RBI in a seven run victory that really put them over the top... Fucking ridiculous... So...you're not going to address your claim that his "postseason resume" is over rated? Coward. Been proving it for an hour... 2013 powerfully overrated... 2007 he was just another brick in the wall.. Take away the extra innings in games four and five of the 04 ALCS and his conversation is t even happening... Yes, he had two huge hits in that series... He rest of his is vapor... He was just a small piece of a championship puzzle...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:41:04 GMT -5
Lester Gomes Victorino I guess shane is white enough... Ortizs grand slam in game two was so much more important than Napolis hr in game three!!!!
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 13:50:57 GMT -5
Ortiz 1a... Dude, put the fucking whiskey bottle down... Brandon Workman contributed more to actual victories than Ortiz did.. LOL... okay. Single biggest hit in the entire post season...without, they probably don't make it past detroit, epic world series...was surpassed by workman throwing 8.2 innings of relief...most of which recorded in losses or blowout wins. I'm down with this clown...done arguing with retards... Single biggest hr? Please, do explain how it was bigger than Victorino's or napoli's or Gomes'... And yeah, 8.2 scoreless innings... #meaningless
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Post by The Bag on Jun 3, 2014 13:51:03 GMT -5
I'd say 1/1a with lester and ortiz...and Uhera ahead of Vic...Vic was largely a dead bat after the tampa series...he had some timely hits...no argument...but, he was a fucking out machine for 2/3's of the postseason Ortiz 1a... Dude, put the fucking whiskey bottle down... Brandon Workman contributed more to actual victories than Ortiz did.. really? lemme see his walk-offs!!!!!!!
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Post by The Bag on Jun 3, 2014 13:54:45 GMT -5
So...you're not going to address your claim that his "postseason resume" is over rated? Coward. Been proving it for an hour... 2013 powerfully overrated... 2007 he was just another brick in the wall.. Take away the extra innings in games four and five of the 04 ALCS and his conversation is t even happening... Yes, he had two huge hits in that series... He rest of his is vapor... He was just a small piece of a championship puzzle... take away hitting 700 in the world series take away the series vs the tigers in 2013 take away the extra inning games in the biggest comeback in playoff history yes. then maybe he isnt that special. and in 07, "another brick in the wall" 700 in first round, 292 second round, 333 world series. a regular mendoza there..... clown.
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 14:06:21 GMT -5
So...you're not going to address your claim that his "postseason resume" is over rated? Coward. Been proving it for an hour... 2013 powerfully overrated... 2007 he was just another brick in the wall.. Take away the extra innings in games four and five of the 04 ALCS and his conversation is t even happening... Yes, he had two huge hits in that series... He rest of his is vapor... He was just a small piece of a championship puzzle... No...you've been deflecting for an hour... "take away all the good he's done...and he's hasn't done much good!!!" Nice argument... OPS's in 2007 aka "just another brick in the wall" Vs. LA: 2.418 that's not a typo...he hit .714/.846/1.571 in that sweep VS. Cleveland .966 OPS Vs. Col in the WS: .945 OPS 2004: vs. LA: 1.688 OPS including a series ending walk off HR in the 10th inning of game 3 vs. NY: 1.199 OPS including 2 walk off in extra innings vs. St. Louis 1.086 OPS add the grandy against detroit and a WS in which he nearly hit .700, you look dumberer and dumberer...
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 14:10:47 GMT -5
Lester Gomes Victorino I guess shane is white enough... Ortizs grand slam in game two was so much more important than Napolis hr in game three!!!! It was...one took an absolute definite loss and turned it into a win and tied the series at a game a piece The other? was the only run scored in a 1-0 game...they could have still won that game without napoli's HR...no idea how it would have played out...Ortiz's? same can't be said...bottom of the 8th, 2 outs? down 4 runs? Down 1-0 in the series? equating them, or even concluding they're close in comparison? laughable...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 14:13:12 GMT -5
Been proving it for an hour... 2013 powerfully overrated... 2007 he was just another brick in the wall.. Take away the extra innings in games four and five of the 04 ALCS and his conversation is t even happening... Yes, he had two huge hits in that series... He rest of his is vapor... He was just a small piece of a championship puzzle... No...you've been deflecting for an hour... "take away all the good he's done...and he's hasn't done much good!!!" Nice argument... OPS's in 2007 aka "just another brick in the wall" Vs. LA: 2.418 that's not a typo...he hit .714/.846/1.571 in that sweep VS. Cleveland .966 OPS Vs. Col in the WS: .945 OPS 2004: vs. LA: 1.688 OPS including a series ending walk off HR in the 10th inning of game 3 vs. NY: 1.199 OPS including 2 walk off in extra innings vs. St. Louis 1.086 OPS add the grandy against detroit and a WS in which he nearly hit .700, you look dumberer and dumberer... I know... All the big hits t hat Gomes, Napoli, Saltalamacchia and Victorino had were actuall really hit by David Ortiz...
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 3, 2014 14:14:59 GMT -5
No...you've been deflecting for an hour... "take away all the good he's done...and he's hasn't done much good!!!" Nice argument... OPS's in 2007 aka "just another brick in the wall" Vs. LA: 2.418 that's not a typo...he hit .714/.846/1.571 in that sweep VS. Cleveland .966 OPS Vs. Col in the WS: .945 OPS 2004: vs. LA: 1.688 OPS including a series ending walk off HR in the 10th inning of game 3 vs. NY: 1.199 OPS including 2 walk off in extra innings vs. St. Louis 1.086 OPS add the grandy against detroit and a WS in which he nearly hit .700, you look dumberer and dumberer... I know... All the big hits t hat Gomes, Napoli, Saltalamacchia and Victorino had were actuall really hit by David Ortiz... salty got benched for Ross, who had the biggest hit in game 5 (or was that game 4?) what did Salty do?
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jun 3, 2014 14:16:17 GMT -5
Ortizs grand slam in game two was so much more important than Napolis hr in game three!!!! It was...one took an absolute definite loss and turned it into a win and tied the series at a game a piece The other? was the only run scored in a 1-0 game...they could have still won that game without napoli's HR...no idea how it would have played out...Ortiz's? same can't be said...bottom of the 8th, 2 outs? down 4 runs? Down 1-0 in the series? equating them, or even concluding they're close in comparison? laughable... Ortiz's game tying grand slam was actually a game winning five run shot... Sorry Salty... We know you actually won the game, but if its all the same, we are gonna just give your game win ing hit to David Ortiz...
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 3, 2014 14:17:30 GMT -5
No...you've been deflecting for an hour... "take away all the good he's done...and he's hasn't done much good!!!" Nice argument... OPS's in 2007 aka "just another brick in the wall" Vs. LA: 2.418 that's not a typo...he hit .714/.846/1.571 in that sweep VS. Cleveland .966 OPS Vs. Col in the WS: .945 OPS 2004: vs. LA: 1.688 OPS including a series ending walk off HR in the 10th inning of game 3 vs. NY: 1.199 OPS including 2 walk off in extra innings vs. St. Louis 1.086 OPS add the grandy against detroit and a WS in which he nearly hit .700, you look dumberer and dumberer... I know... All the big hits t hat Gomes, Napoli, Saltalamacchia and Victorino had were actuall really hit by David Ortiz... No one is saying those guys didn't contribute...just that he contributed more. Considerably more...something that has become pretty much routine everytime they make the postseason No WS in MLB has ever been won by any one player singlehandedly... Salty? The guy hit .188/.257/.219 and lost his starting job to Ross...aka "very ortiz like"
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 3, 2014 14:17:56 GMT -5
It was...one took an absolute definite loss and turned it into a win and tied the series at a game a piece The other? was the only run scored in a 1-0 game...they could have still won that game without napoli's HR...no idea how it would have played out...Ortiz's? same can't be said...bottom of the 8th, 2 outs? down 4 runs? Down 1-0 in the series? equating them, or even concluding they're close in comparison? laughable... Ortiz's game tying grand slam was actually a game winning five run shot... Sorry Salty... We know you actually won the game, but if its all the same, we are gonna just give your game win ing hit to David Ortiz... aha! thats what salty did forgot about that when did they start benching him for Ross? World Series or before?
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