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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2016 21:08:04 GMT -5
What about your Jets? Is Fitzpatrick the QB of choice? Is he good enough to get the jets to the super bowl? Is Forte the random element? Is he the missing puzzle piece? What about your Jets? They are building to win now, but I think they are a bit too early on that. Is Fitzpatrick the QB of choice? Not of my choice. He throws too many INTs for me, people think he is a "game manager" because he went to harvard and all that.....but he is anything but that. Is he good enough to get the jets to the super bowl? No. Not even close. Is Forte the random element? Forte is a great pick up.......a combination of Powell and Ivory. Is he the missing puzzle piece? No, he is not nearly that good of a RB to be a missing piece. Most no RB is IMO. I love the Forte move, I love resigning Powell.........I hate losing Harrison. This off season has been average for the Jets, the QB move will be huge.
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Post by Packersgal on Mar 12, 2016 13:34:43 GMT -5
RG3 to the Jets??
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Post by jets12 on Mar 13, 2016 7:09:20 GMT -5
I doubt they'd have to pay a lot for him, so after thinking about it I guess I would not hate the move. My initial reaction was hell no. I'm just tired of a QB competition every.single.year. As much as I don't want Fitzpatrick back at some insane price, it would be nice going through the off season knowing who the QB is going to be. With RG3, I don't think he'd be handed the job over Geno, he better not be. But I do think it'd be a competition in camp. Also, I do not like RG3, don't think he is a good QB....but he did get screwed in Washington with Mike Shanahan....who seems to make more enemies than friends.
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Post by Packersgal on Mar 14, 2016 16:29:14 GMT -5
"I'm just tired of a QB competition every.single.year. As much as I don't want Fitzpatrick back at some insane price, it would be nice going through the off season knowing who the QB is going to be."
I feel your pain.
We Packer fans have been spoiled. 2 QB's in 24 years!!
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Post by jets12 on Mar 14, 2016 18:42:13 GMT -5
"I'm just tired of a QB competition every.single.year. As much as I don't want Fitzpatrick back at some insane price, it would be nice going through the off season knowing who the QB is going to be." I feel your pain. We Packer fans have been spoiled. 2 QB's in 24 years!! Biggest mistake the Jets made was letting Pennington go to the dolphins. Getting your boy to start instead of him was such a marketing move. I was so mad. I loved Chad. IMO it cost them a superbowl. Chad as the QB instead of Sanchez........Jets win a SB under Rex.
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Post by Packersgal on Mar 14, 2016 19:16:17 GMT -5
I wish I knew more about the Jets and football in general so I could carry on a better conversation with you. I started following the NFL/Packers 6 years ago. I do not know who Chad Pennington is? But if he was the better QB they should have kept him right? The Jets made it to the championship game twice with Sanchez and lost and Pennington would have won those games?
Which game was the butt fumble?
Is Geno Smith better than RG3?
Are they similar in style?
I think RG3 got screwed in Washington too.
I read today that the Jets are offering Fitzpatrick "back-up" money and he wants "Starter" money. Where would he go? And would that mean that RG3 and Smith would be the only ones competing in training camp for the starting position?
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Post by jets12 on Mar 14, 2016 19:33:14 GMT -5
I wish I knew more about the Jets and football in general so I could carry on a better conversation with you. I started following the NFL/Packers 6 years ago. I do not know who Chad Pennington is? But if he was the better QB they should have kept him right? The Jets made it to the championship game twice with Sanchez and lost and Pennington would have won those games?
Chad was a great, great, game managing QB. The Jets let Chad go and signed Favre. Chad was an injury prone QB, so that was the reasoning in the decision, though it was a horrible one. The Jets made it to those AFCCG's on defense and running game, not on the arm of sanchez.
Which game was the butt fumble?
Edit: skipped over this question; If I remember correctly it was thanksgiving night against the patriots.
Is Geno Smith better than RG3?
Great question that is impossible to answer. I think Geno has more talent and is a bit stronger and I think RG3 has more football IQ and is faster.
Are they similar in style?
By in large, yes.
I think RG3 got screwed in Washington too.
I read today that the Jets are offering Fitzpatrick "back-up" money and he wants "Starter" money. Where would he go? And would that mean that RG3 and Smith would be the only ones competing in training camp for the starting position?
In terms of RG3 and Geno.....if those are the QBs in Jets camp, it'd be a competition, if Fitzpatrick is there, it's his job.
In terms of Fitzpatrick.......He really is in a good position of making Denver and NYJ bid against each other for his services. I think he could demand and receive starter money relative to what starters have signed for this offseason. I personally would not sign him for that, but that is what I feel he will receive.
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Post by Packersgal on Mar 14, 2016 19:44:01 GMT -5
If RG3 DID go to the jets(or anywhere for that matter)I think he would have a chip on his shoulder and have something to prove. He may just surprise a few people.. I watched the last game of the season between the Jets and Buffalo with the playoffs on the line and Fitzpatrick faded under pressure. Frankly I was disappointed in the jets all out effort. I have many friends who like the Jets and they were disappointed as hell.. If Fitzpatrick DID get starter money, he better step in those kind of games... Liked your answer on the butt fumble..
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Post by jets12 on Mar 14, 2016 19:48:45 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick was awful that game. And he really was not that good all year.....but Marshall and Decker bailed out a few bad throws.
He is not the answer to a teams QB situation, the problem is the answer is not out there......the QB situation in the NFL is not pretty.
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Post by Packersgal on Mar 16, 2016 20:04:57 GMT -5
Any moves by the Jets today jets12?
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Post by jets12 on Mar 17, 2016 9:08:36 GMT -5
No. Everything is about the QB now.......Fitzy or no Fitzy.
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Post by aka50yearfan on Mar 19, 2016 8:28:09 GMT -5
The Jets are blowing themselves up . Dumbazzes. They offer back up money $7 mil to the only QB they have had since before Marky puked on the field and did not make you roll your eyes in wonder with no viable option out there. Not enough blowing it up? Then they piss off Mo by offering 5 years and $75 million to vernon, who turns it down for more jack from Hot seat Reese. That is what they told Mo they would not do for him! Now that will go over just Greeaat! Fitz is not your ordinary cash strapped unsigned NFL FA. He can wait till the first QB goes down in September and get more than that.....Gangrene is setting in....
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Post by jets12 on Mar 19, 2016 20:06:08 GMT -5
The Jets are blowing themselves up . Dumbazzes. They offer back up money $7 mil to the only QB they have had since before Marky puked on the field and did not make you roll your eyes in wonder with no viable option out there. Not enough blowing it up? Then they piss off Mo by offering 5 years and $75 million to vernon, who turns it down for more jack from Hot seat Reese. That is what they told Mo they would not do for him! Now that will go over just Greeaat! Fitz is not your ordinary cash strapped unsigned NFL FA. He can wait till the first QB goes down in September and get more than that.....Gangrene is setting in.... List the QB's the jets have had.......and tell me that Ryan fitzpatrick is better than them. Just so you can really display how bad this post is.
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Post by jets12 on Mar 19, 2016 20:08:07 GMT -5
And Mo would never take 5 years 75 Million......so no idea what you are talking about there.
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Post by aka50yearfan on Mar 20, 2016 8:43:17 GMT -5
The Jets are blowing themselves up . Dumbazzes. They offer back up money $7 mil to the only QB they have had since before Marky puked on the field and did not make you roll your eyes in wonder with no viable option out there. Not enough blowing it up? Then they piss off Mo by offering 5 years and $75 million to vernon, who turns it down for more jack from Hot seat Reese. That is what they told Mo they would not do for him! Now that will go over just Greeaat! Fitz is not your ordinary cash strapped unsigned NFL FA. He can wait till the first QB goes down in September and get more than that.....Gangrene is setting in.... List the QB's the jets have had.......and tell me that Ryan fitzpatrick is better than them. Just so you can really display how bad this post is. You got to be kidding. You are not serious. come on man! Noodle arm Pennington, Brookie, bad man, Bollinger, Vinny the washed up , Brett on his last leg, Kellen C Lemon! Greggy and Geno the Jaw Breaker! foley? How far back you wanna go, or are you in that outlyer group that actually think Chad was more than an average QB? Get real. Now tell me who took a 4-12 team to ten wins? well? Who holds the Jets all time record for tDs? Fitz Who is second on their all time list for yards in a season passing? Fitz once again. What you got to argue with facts? Jeesh! do your homework.
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Post by aka50yearfan on Mar 20, 2016 8:47:38 GMT -5
And Mo would never take 5 years 75 Million......so no idea what you are talking about there. Oh contraire! It was never offered to him ....matters not, they would have to tag him again to keep him. thin about it Lucy, you offer big bucks to vernon and cannot work it out with Mo who is a better player.....face it, they misjudged the market and lowballing Fitz with only Buster Geno , a real locker room leader he is, to be your fallback? 30 year old million miles on him Forte replaces Ivory? chug a lug chug a lug. give us all one.
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Post by jets12 on Mar 20, 2016 12:20:01 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick is a better QB than Pennington was? Come on.
And lowballing Fitz? Why, what has he signed that shows he was low balled?
Low balling....would be offering Mo 5/75. Mo is not going to take anything close to that, nor should he.
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Post by Guns n Guitars on Mar 20, 2016 12:41:58 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick is a better QB than Pennington was? Come on. And lowballing Fitz? Why, what has he signed that shows he was low balled? Low balling....would be offering Mo 5/75. Mo is not going to take anything close to that, nor should he. There is always the draft to rely on.
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Post by aka50yearfan on Mar 20, 2016 15:14:54 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick is a better QB than Pennington was? Come on. And lowballing Fitz? Why, what has he signed that shows he was low balled? Low balling....would be offering Mo 5/75. Mo is not going to take anything close to that, nor should he. The Jets never gave an offer to Mo that has ever been reported by the press, but remember this-JJ Watt in February was the highest paid DE in the NFL at $16.6 million a year. To think Mo W would not consider $15 mil a year does not stand the smell test. Make it five years and guarantee enough of it and he would have been all over it. Of course Fitz is a better QB than Chad the Dinkmeister. His best year was 2002, the only time he won 10 games and he still threw for fewer yards and half as many tDs as Fitz did last year. The guy couldn't stay on the field. In his time with the Jets he was 32-29 as a starter. He was a big part of that medocrity. Fitz is no Namath, but he is the best option they Jets have-if they pay up. I say it will cost them between $10-$13 million for him to sign. We shall see, until he signs then that $7 million was obviously not enough. Ergo-lowball. Honest, if I am the Jets brain CEO, I trade what ever picks I have to to the titans and take the QB I like the best and go from there. They have mega cap room next year for FA and re signs, I try like hell to fix that 48 year QB merry go round
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 20, 2016 15:31:49 GMT -5
I wish I knew more about the Jets and football in general so I could carry on a better conversation with you. I started following the NFL/Packers 6 years ago. I do not know who Chad Pennington is? But if he was the better QB they should have kept him right? The Jets made it to the championship game twice with Sanchez and lost and Pennington would have won those games? Which game was the butt fumble? Thanksgiving 2012 against the PatsIs Geno Smith better than RG3? YesAre they similar in style? NoI think RG3 got screwed in Washington too. He did the screwing by never studying film. Was too busy in the weight room trying to look good I read today that the Jets are offering Fitzpatrick "back-up" money and he wants "Starter" money. Where would he go? And would that mean that RG3 and Smith would be the only ones competing in training camp for the starting position? I think they were quite a bit under where he should be in the pecking order but Fitz wants dranchise money and that's way too much
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Post by jets12 on Mar 22, 2016 7:44:56 GMT -5
Fitzpatrick is a better QB than Pennington was? Come on. And lowballing Fitz? Why, what has he signed that shows he was low balled? Low balling....would be offering Mo 5/75. Mo is not going to take anything close to that, nor should he. The Jets never gave an offer to Mo that has ever been reported by the press, but remember this-JJ Watt in February was the highest paid DE in the NFL at $16.6 million a year. To think Mo W would not consider $15 mil a year does not stand the smell test. Make it five years and guarantee enough of it and he would have been all over it. Of course Fitz is a better QB than Chad the Dinkmeister. His best year was 2002, the only time he won 10 games and he still threw for fewer yards and half as many tDs as Fitz did last year. The guy couldn't stay on the field. In his time with the Jets he was 32-29 as a starter. He was a big part of that medocrity. Fitz is no Namath, but he is the best option they Jets have-if they pay up. I say it will cost them between $10-$13 million for him to sign. We shall see, until he signs then that $7 million was obviously not enough. Ergo-lowball. Honest, if I am the Jets brain CEO, I trade what ever picks I have to to the titans and take the QB I like the best and go from there. They have mega cap room next year for FA and re signs, I try like hell to fix that 48 year QB merry go round Watt and Vernon's contracts are different......you first implied offering Mo 5/75.......if they offered him Watt's contract, i'd say that's market value. It would be crazy for the Jets to not use the franchise for 1 year on Mo......that was the smart move. Next year will be the decision year, unless they trade him. But to do anything but franchise tagging him is nonsense. If they didn't he'd hit the free market and who knows if he comes back. And this is the only year Fitzpatrick has won more than 6 games. 11 year career, 1 year with more than 6 wins. That shows you it was the team, not him. And if they sign him for a 1 year 10 million.....and they originally offered 1 year 7 million, that's not a low ball offer. Also, trade whatever picks you have to get a QB makes me laugh.....they traded picks to get sanchez, they traded picks to get Geno.....clearly your strategy works well.
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Post by Packersgal on Apr 1, 2016 17:03:19 GMT -5
jets12 - Jets sign Fitzpatrick to 8 year 90 million dollar contract! 60 million guaranteed! April fools...
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Post by jets12 on Apr 2, 2016 6:37:32 GMT -5
jets12 - Jets sign Fitzpatrick to 8 year 90 million dollar contract! 60 million guaranteed! April fools... I will drive to your place and poop on your living room floor.
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Post by Packersgal on Apr 2, 2016 11:24:24 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Apr 6, 2016 6:44:54 GMT -5
Asked point-blank if he hoped Fitzpatrick would be back, Marshall said, "He better be."
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Post by jets12 on Apr 6, 2016 6:48:17 GMT -5
Asked point-blank if he hoped Fitzpatrick would be back, Marshall said, "He better be." Good answer.
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Post by jets12 on Apr 6, 2016 6:56:59 GMT -5
What is Fitzpatricks leverage?
"Well, there are 31 other teams in the league....none of them think i'm worth this money.........but trust me, I am! They would rather trade for RGIII and Colin Kaepernick than pay me for 1 season.......but they are all wrong and I am right!"
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Post by redseat on Apr 6, 2016 7:13:01 GMT -5
What is Fitzpatricks leverage? "Well, there are 31 other teams in the league....none of them think i'm worth this money.........but trust me, I am! They would rather trade for RGIII and Colin Kaepernick than pay me for 1 season.......but they are all wrong and I am right!" Jets need to call his bluff and just not sign him
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Post by jets12 on Apr 6, 2016 7:16:54 GMT -5
What is Fitzpatricks leverage? "Well, there are 31 other teams in the league....none of them think i'm worth this money.........but trust me, I am! They would rather trade for RGIII and Colin Kaepernick than pay me for 1 season.......but they are all wrong and I am right!" Jets need to call his bluff and just not sign him They are playing it perfect. Just wait and sign him for what you want to sign him for.
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Post by Zig on Apr 6, 2016 7:19:31 GMT -5
Jets need to call his bluff and just not sign him They are playing it perfect. Just wait and sign him for what you want to sign him for. isnt part of the problem the fact that they have about 100k of cap space?
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