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Post by redseat on Apr 6, 2016 7:19:46 GMT -5
Jets need to call his bluff and just not sign him They are playing it perfect. Just wait and sign him for what you want to sign him for. Or just don't  |
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Post by jets12 on Apr 6, 2016 7:26:49 GMT -5
They are playing it perfect. Just wait and sign him for what you want to sign him for. isnt part of the problem the fact that they have about 100k of cap space? They can work that. I think it's more the jets are around $7 million and Fitzy is around $14 million. |
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Post by The Bag on Apr 6, 2016 7:31:09 GMT -5
What is Fitzpatricks leverage? "Well, there are 31 other teams in the league....none of them think i'm worth this money.........but trust me, I am! They would rather trade for RGIII and Colin Kaepernick than pay me for 1 season.......but they are all wrong and I am right!" For starters, using anything Cleveland has done at qb as leverage against someone already means you're losing the argument. |
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Post by jets12 on Apr 6, 2016 7:32:41 GMT -5
What is Fitzpatricks leverage? "Well, there are 31 other teams in the league....none of them think i'm worth this money.........but trust me, I am! They would rather trade for RGIII and Colin Kaepernick than pay me for 1 season.......but they are all wrong and I am right!" For starters, using anything Cleveland has done at qb as leverage against someone already means you're losing the argument. How am I losing the argument? No one is signing him. No one wants him. He has no leverage. |
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Post by The Bag on Apr 6, 2016 8:10:45 GMT -5
For starters, using anything Cleveland has done at qb as leverage against someone already means you're losing the argument. How am I losing the argument? No one is signing him. No one wants him. He has no leverage. I'm simply saying using what Cleveland has done at qb to justify not paying Fitzpatrick is a losing cause. They are cursed at qb. |
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Post by jets12 on Apr 9, 2016 6:57:43 GMT -5
D-Brick retires.
Good player, good for him leaving on his own terms.
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Post by Packersgal on May 3, 2016 19:37:39 GMT -5
D-Brick retires. Good player, good for him leaving on his own terms. Hey jets12 - how did the Jets do in the draft? Any word on Fitzpatrick? |
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Post by jets12 on May 8, 2016 11:32:31 GMT -5
D-Brick retires. Good player, good for him leaving on his own terms. Hey jets12 - how did the Jets do in the draft? Any word on Fitzpatrick? No idea if you are a mother or not, but Happy Mother's Day! I am not the biggest college football fan in the world so it's hard for me to judge the Jets draft, especially with no big moves/trades involved with them. The kid in the 1st round, OLB, that was a positional need and at the time of the draft he was one of the best players available so I liked the pick. Drafting Hackenberg in the 2nd round........I have zero problem with that, in terms of I want them to draft a QB in the early rounds and they did. Everyone says it was a reach for Hackenberg but only time will tell if that is true. Nothing new on Fitzpatrick and I don't really see much happening. The Jets have Geno and Hackenberg. Sure Fitzpatrick might be better than both, but how much better is the question. Also his age is up there......I'd rather have 2 young QBs you can build around versus an old QB who is not good enough to do anything. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in Fitzpatrick but it's going to have to be for cheap money........so i'd be more surprised that Fitzpatrick wants to play for that. Packers looked like they beefed up the lines in their draft? |
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Post by Packersgal on May 10, 2016 16:58:50 GMT -5
Hey jets12 - how did the Jets do in the draft? Any word on Fitzpatrick? No idea if you are a mother or not, but Happy Mother's Day! I am not the biggest college football fan in the world so it's hard for me to judge the Jets draft, especially with no big moves/trades involved with them. The kid in the 1st round, OLB, that was a positional need and at the time of the draft he was one of the best players available so I liked the pick. Drafting Hackenberg in the 2nd round........I have zero problem with that, in terms of I want them to draft a QB in the early rounds and they did. Everyone says it was a reach for Hackenberg but only time will tell if that is true. Nothing new on Fitzpatrick and I don't really see much happening. The Jets have Geno and Hackenberg. Sure Fitzpatrick might be better than both, but how much better is the question. Also his age is up there......I'd rather have 2 young QBs you can build around versus an old QB who is not good enough to do anything. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in Fitzpatrick but it's going to have to be for cheap money........so i'd be more surprised that Fitzpatrick wants to play for that. Packers looked like they beefed up the lines in their draft? Not a Mom yet.. but we're working on it! The Packers did a good job in the draft on both sides of the ball. Our #1 pick, Kenny Clark, looks to be ready to play on day 1 and we drafted a good pass rushing line backer and ILB Sam Barrington will return from injury AND our secondary has another year under their belt. The defense should be top 10 next season! We also drafted a speedster from Cal. Trevor Davis, the guy is FAST. He'll probably be used as a kick/punt returner at first until he learns the playbook but I think he should play in a few games at WR, he's too fast to ignore. I can see it now in the huddle, Rodgers calls the play, then looks at Davis and says, "you run straight ahead 80 yards down the right sideline, I'll get you the ball!!" I think the Jets made the right choice with their #1 pick and drafting the QB is insurance. Honestly, I think the Jets would have come to terms with Fitzpatrick already if they really wanted him, so it's going to be Geno unless hackenberg is some kind of prodigy. |
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Post by jets12 on May 14, 2016 20:36:08 GMT -5
Agreed on Fitzpatrick. He is holding the Jets ransom for some absurd money.......no need to pay it.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 28, 2016 1:08:19 GMT -5
Jets' offer to Ryan Fitzpatrick includes $12M in 2016IMO the Jets are taking the right course, more based on his age (33) and his track record, than anything else. If neither side moves a couple mil I see him still waiting come training camp. The danger then for the Jets is if another teams starter goes down they might be forced to pony up money otherwise the Jets have all the leverage
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Post by aka50yearfan on May 28, 2016 9:00:16 GMT -5
Jets need to call his bluff and just not sign him They are playing it perfect. Just wait and sign him for what you want to sign him for. Who is playing it perfect? The Jets never played anything perfect for almost fifty years now. They overpaid last year in free agency and now decide to go frugggalll? Fitzpatrick has the Jets by their spacenads. They got looking around thier landscape at their QB harem and apparently have upped their offer to Fitzpatrick to $12 million this year. |
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Post by aka50yearfan on May 28, 2016 9:30:24 GMT -5
Jets' offer to Ryan Fitzpatrick includes $12M in 2016IMO the Jets are taking the right course, more based on his age (33) and his track record, than anything else. If neither side moves a couple mil I see him still waiting come training camp. The danger then for the Jets is if another teams starter goes down they might be forced to pony up money otherwise the Jets have all the leverage Age is not a factor in this. No, I am not comparing him to Rodgers who is 32 and Big Ben and Brady and the top QBs in the NFL who nearly all are in their thirties, but in the new NFL QBs do not take the beatings they used to and last a lot longer in to their 30s playing at high levels. THE point is this : does anybody in this room honestly think the Jets would have won 10 games last year with Geno as the QB? anybody? Marshall and Decker have made it publicly very clear that they do not think Geno can get it done. That should make for some great atmosphere in the ole locker room. What exactly is the Jets alternative? They are not built for the future looking at Mo gone next year most likely, age on the OL and DB and Marshall will be 33 next year and on and on. do you really let four or even six million hold up signing the QB you really want to start ? Is that what it is all about after blowing mucho millions last year in FA? If the Jets do not sign Fitzpatrick over 4-6 million more and they win fewer than 10 games and miss the playoffs this year you know woody will do his thing again and fire fire fire . |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 28, 2016 13:55:38 GMT -5
Jets' offer to Ryan Fitzpatrick includes $12M in 2016IMO the Jets are taking the right course, more based on his age (33) and his track record, than anything else. If neither side moves a couple mil I see him still waiting come training camp. The danger then for the Jets is if another teams starter goes down they might be forced to pony up money otherwise the Jets have all the leverage Age is not a factor in this. No, I am not comparing him to Rodgers who is 32 and Big Ben and Brady and the top QBs in the NFL who nearly all are in their thirties, but in the new NFL QBs do not take the beatings they used to and last a lot longer in to their 30s playing at high levels. THE point is this : does anybody in this room honestly think the Jets would have won 10 games last year with Geno as the QB? anybody? Marshall and Decker have made it publicly very clear that they do not think Geno can get it done. That should make for some great atmosphere in the ole locker room. What exactly is the Jets alternative? They are not built for the future looking at Mo gone next year most likely, age on the OL and DB and Marshall will be 33 next year and on and on. do you really let four or even six million hold up signing the QB you really want to start ? Is that what it is all about after blowing mucho millions last year in FA? If the Jets do not sign Fitzpatrick over 4-6 million more and they win fewer than 10 games and miss the playoffs this year you know woody will do his thing again and fire fire fire . Of course age factors into it I probably should have stated his track record first as that is probably the bigger reason the Jets are wary of signing him anywhere near the price he wants. I would put an incentive based contract forward and if they are out of contention just find out what they have in reserve, therefore not letting him achieve his bonuses . If they are in contention he plays, hence he will get the money he deserves |
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Post by aka50yearfan on May 29, 2016 9:05:40 GMT -5
Age is not a factor in this. No, I am not comparing him to Rodgers who is 32 and Big Ben and Brady and the top QBs in the NFL who nearly all are in their thirties, but in the new NFL QBs do not take the beatings they used to and last a lot longer in to their 30s playing at high levels. THE point is this : does anybody in this room honestly think the Jets would have won 10 games last year with Geno as the QB? anybody? Marshall and Decker have made it publicly very clear that they do not think Geno can get it done. That should make for some great atmosphere in the ole locker room. What exactly is the Jets alternative? They are not built for the future looking at Mo gone next year most likely, age on the OL and DB and Marshall will be 33 next year and on and on. do you really let four or even six million hold up signing the QB you really want to start ? Is that what it is all about after blowing mucho millions last year in FA? If the Jets do not sign Fitzpatrick over 4-6 million more and they win fewer than 10 games and miss the playoffs this year you know woody will do his thing again and fire fire fire . Of course age factors into it I probably should have stated his track record first as that is probably the bigger reason the Jets are wary of signing him anywhere near the price he wants. I would put an incentive based contract forward and if they are out of contention just find out what they have in reserve, therefore not letting him achieve his bonuses . If they are in contention he plays, hence he will get the money he deserves I heartily disagree about the age thing. Look around at all the plus 30 QBs . It is not like he is asking for some four year deal. Deserved money? what the heck is that anymore for a QB. Reality and facts tell us the going rate is $15 million and upupup for starting QBs. The market place price is like crude oil, short supply and demand times. All I am saying is if the Jets let 2 to 4 million keep them from signing the QB they really want and the players on that team want AND miss the playoffs and win fewer than 10 games ( very likely scenario as they would have the weakest QB i that division) then they better have some really really good press conferences at years end to splain' that one when you pay the prices Jets fans pay to sit and park and eat at those games. You are all in or you are looking future with that team cause it ain't a gonna last long that window. Their skill players be aging . Geno is what we thought he was and apparently no locker room leader to boot. Their new HC was a good hire, he deserves better than Geno when their is an option available. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 29, 2016 13:13:55 GMT -5
Of course age factors into it I probably should have stated his track record first as that is probably the bigger reason the Jets are wary of signing him anywhere near the price he wants. I would put an incentive based contract forward and if they are out of contention just find out what they have in reserve, therefore not letting him achieve his bonuses . If they are in contention he plays, hence he will get the money he deserves I heartily disagree about the age thing. Look around at all the plus 30 QBs . It is not like he is asking for some four year deal. Deserved money? what the heck is that anymore for a QB. Reality and facts tell us the going rate is $15 million and upupup for starting QBs. The market place price is like crude oil, short supply and demand times. All I am saying is if the Jets let 2 to 4 million keep them from signing the QB they really want and the players on that team want AND miss the playoffs and win fewer than 10 games ( very likely scenario as they would have the weakest QB i that division) then they better have some really really good press conferences at years end to splain' that one when you pay the prices Jets fans pay to sit and park and eat at those games. You are all in or you are looking future with that team cause it ain't a gonna last long that window. Their skill players be aging . Geno is what we thought he was and apparently no locker room leader to boot. Their new HC was a good hire, he deserves better than Geno when their is an option available. And at that age he's had 2 good seasons and one was quite a while ago. He's asking for 18M and that is too much for what really is a mediocre Q B. Yes other mediocre QB's are getting that much C-ough-utler and those teams are hating it. Leave him sit and wait, his options are slim and none right now. If he blinks you win, if training camp starts you'd better pray a starter doesn't go down and maybe up your bid a couple mil . I always thought that 14 would get him. We'll see |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jun 6, 2016 0:27:34 GMT -5
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jun 6, 2016 9:44:10 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jun 6, 2016 16:49:59 GMT -5
Might be more appropriate in the Leafs thread as when the Jets miss the playoffs the only thing you can do outside sports wise is ice fishing |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jun 6, 2016 17:02:05 GMT -5
They are playing it perfect. Just wait and sign him for what you want to sign him for. Who is playing it perfect? The Jets never played anything perfect for almost fifty years now. They overpaid last year in free agency and now decide to go frugggalll? Fitzpatrick has the Jets by their spacenads. They got looking around thier landscape at their QB harem and apparently have upped their offer to Fitzpatrick to $12 million this year. How much of Fitz's progress has to do with actually having 2 top receivers and a running game. Okay he had a running game at Buffalo but no receivers of note. In Houston Hopkins was a rookie and Johnson was playing on borrowed time so he didn't have a true #1 there either. How much better will Geno look with the far better receivers than he had when T-Rex's offense roamed Florham Park. Let's not forget Geno was beating out Fitz, in an offense Fitz knew, until IK ruined Geno's season and made Fitz' No I doubt Geno's the answer but can he be a bridge as they determine if Hack is the QB of their future |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jul 15, 2016 20:13:00 GMT -5
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 30, 2016 8:22:25 GMT -5
Jets
Jets gonna be real good
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Aug 30, 2016 8:23:29 GMT -5
Jets Jets gonna be real good Bookmark it zig. |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 30, 2016 8:23:33 GMT -5
Jets Jets gonna be real good We have both been saying it, if they can get by their first 7 games I think they can do some damage......but I could see them 2-5 as well. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 30, 2016 8:24:32 GMT -5
Jets Jets gonna be real good We have both been saying it, if they can get by their first 7 games I think they can do some damage......but I could see them 2-5 as well. That front 7 is gonna be bad ass |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 30, 2016 8:27:08 GMT -5
We have both been saying it, if they can get by their first 7 games I think they can do some damage......but I could see them 2-5 as well. That front 7 is gonna be bad ass Yeah, thier LBs got faster and signing McLendon will help losing Harrison.....and Pryor improved so much last year, I love their saftey play. They will struggle at corner, but that's it on defense. I like amaro to look alright this year and I like Clady to step right in for ferguson. I just don't trust Fitzpatrick to win them games they should lose. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 30, 2016 8:28:53 GMT -5
Jets Jets gonna be real good Lol Every year |
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