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Post by Macho Row on Mar 13, 2015 6:34:16 GMT -5
I guess you all feel differently now... LeSean McCoy > DeMarco Murray > every other runningback in the NFC East I maintain that Murray was a product of an excellent run blocking offensive line. And that the Eagles overpaid for his services.But If I have to lose McCoy I'm happy to see him traded out of the conference and replaced by stealing a division rivals star runningback. And there is where you have a conflict. I like.... I guess now liked our Oline. For what they were when healthy I thought they were a very good offensive line. Just as good as the Cowboys. But different. Very Very different. The Dallas Oline was built with mammoth mounds of men who impose their will on dline men. Our guys depended on quickness to get to spots and for lack of a better term because I'm not terribly bright, "directionally" block the opposing team. Not sure that makes sense but its the best way I know how to explain. The difference between Shady and Murray in space is no comparison. I'll take shady vs anyone in space. Not sure our line as currently constructed will suit Murray very well. And with the other backs will probably see by my best guess around 800 yards. Alot of money for that production. Time will tell I guess. I think my new filosofy will be to let whatever happens happen. I've just about scratched the entire way through my scalp and skull. Good thing theres not much to hit after that. |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 13, 2015 17:19:01 GMT -5
So chip showed up at Robert Wilsons funeral. He has earned a few days reprieve from me. Class move.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 14:28:19 GMT -5
Tim Tebow working out for the Eagles
Can't make it up.
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Post by tnerb57 on Mar 16, 2015 14:58:31 GMT -5
Tim Tebow working out for the Eagles Can't make it up. How funny would it be if he signs and beats out Bradford for the starting spot? |
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Post by Canuck eh? on Mar 16, 2015 19:03:34 GMT -5
Tim Tebow working out for the Eagles Can't make it up. That's fucking hilarious.
Poor (Un), Macho, and CI. Haven't they been mocked enough?
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Post by Canuck eh? on Mar 16, 2015 19:15:29 GMT -5
That's fucking hilarious.
Poor (Un), Macho, and CI. Haven't they been mocked enough?
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 16, 2015 21:04:56 GMT -5
Tim Tebow working out for the Eagles Can't make it up. That's fucking hilarious.
Poor (Un), Macho, and CI. Haven't they been mocked enough?
Um NO
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 17, 2015 23:04:13 GMT -5
I guess you all feel differently now... Haven't been a Chip fan since the hire. I hope the level of my wrongness reaches levels of an epic proportion. I wasn't on board with Petey either It was a little easier to take his roster tuirnover as the Seahawks were not competitive That's why I nicknamed them USCHawks |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 17, 2015 23:44:52 GMT -5
Tim Tebow working out for the Eagles Can't make it up. And there's a report out there we will sign him if we can find someone to unload Barkley on.......... Anyone seen my buckshot mouthwash around anywhere? |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 17, 2015 23:50:18 GMT -5
Haven't been a Chip fan since the hire. I hope the level of my wrongness reaches levels of an epic proportion. I wasn't on board with Petey either It was a little easier to take his roster tuirnover as the Seahawks were not competitive That's why I nicknamed them USCHawks Understandable since before the hire his previous stints in the NFL ended with him having not much better than a .500 record. But that defense that Belichick benefited greatly from early on Basically were built by Carroll. |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 18, 2015 7:47:09 GMT -5
And there's a report out there we will sign him if we can find someone to unload Barkley on.......... Anyone seen my buckshot mouthwash around anywhere? Yeah but who the fuck is going to want Matt Barkley? 4 career INTs, no touchdowns. The kid sucks. He's not even worth a 7th round pick. You can sign an undrafted rookie who's younger and less expensive. There's a Gruden in the league...
Any one of our division foes that want to get our playbook and also open the door for Tebow.
Any coach who fancies himself a QB whisperer. Just spit balling ideas.
Although Tebow n this offense in red zone situations is kinda intriguing, not gonna lie.
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 18, 2015 8:02:47 GMT -5
And there's a report out there we will sign him if we can find someone to unload Barkley on.......... Anyone seen my buckshot mouthwash around anywhere? Yeah but who the fuck is going to want Matt Barkley? 4 career INTs, no touchdowns. The kid sucks. He's not even worth a 7th round pick. You can sign an undrafted rookie who's younger and less expensive. As long as Rex Ryan is in the league - there's always someone. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 18, 2015 8:05:46 GMT -5
There's a Gruden in the league...
Any one of our division foes that want to get our playbook and also open the door for Tebow.
Any coach who fancies himself a QB whisperer. Just spit balling ideas.
Although Tebow n this offense in red zone situations is kinda intriguing, not gonna lie.
Too bad he can't hit the broadside of a barn from a 5 yard distance That's the part of all this Tebow talk that defies logic. He seriously CAN'T hit the broadside of a barn from a 5 yard distance. And as much as Chip didn't want Foles because (in part) of his less-than-accurate arm... what the hell is he going to do with friggin' Tebow back there?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 18, 2015 8:21:18 GMT -5
There's a Gruden in the league...
Any one of our division foes that want to get our playbook and also open the door for Tebow.
Any coach who fancies himself a QB whisperer. Just spit balling ideas.
Although Tebow n this offense in red zone situations is kinda intriguing, not gonna lie.
Too bad he can't hit the broadside of a barn from a 5 yard distance Haven't you heard? He's fixed! Forget him passing the ball. I'd wanna see what would happen with split backs running the pitch option. |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 18, 2015 8:23:47 GMT -5
Or out of the I.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 9:20:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 10:29:37 GMT -5
That's the part of all this Tebow talk that defies logic. He seriously CAN'T hit the broadside of a barn from a 5 yard distance. And as much as Chip didn't want Foles because (in part) of his less-than-accurate arm... what the hell is he going to do with friggin' Tebow back there?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
That was the joke on his low interception numbers. He was so wildly off target even the defensive backs didn't have a shot at catching his passes. I remember one game he started the Broncos only threw like 8 passes the entire game. He completed like 2. Hard to get bad numbers when the coaching staff removes the part of football you suck at from the gameplan. |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 23, 2015 20:16:38 GMT -5
So chip showed up at Robert Wilsons funeral. He has earned a few days reprieve from me. Class move. I think that the Eagles team is a work in progress. I understand the skepticism. But coming from where I am (Detroit...the graveyard of good football), this is wildly exciting to me. The guy (Kelly) has balls big as church bells. Now that he is not only "cooking" the meals but "buying some of the groceries (thank you B. Parcells)", I am looking forward to what comes down next. Beats the shit out of listening to Lions' "management" ducking out of the presser introducing a near washed up Haloti Ngata replacing Ndamakong Suh. At least Chip speaks... Shameless plug again. See my article in "Towner's Corner". I believe that Kelly will have the last laugh when it is all said and done. |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 24, 2015 0:41:38 GMT -5
So chip showed up at Robert Wilsons funeral. He has earned a few days reprieve from me. Class move. I think that the Eagles team is a work in progress. I understand the skepticism. But coming from where I am (Detroit...the graveyard of good football), this is wildly exciting to me. The guy (Kelly) has balls big as church bells. Now that he is not only "cooking" the meals but "buying some of the groceries (thank you B. Parcells)", I am looking forward to what comes down next. Beats the shit out of listening to Lions' "management" ducking out of the presser introducing a near washed up Haloti Ngata replacing Ndamakong Suh. At least Chip speaks... Shameless plug again. See my article in "Towner's Corner". I believe that Kelly will have the last laugh when it is all said and done. They absoutley are a work in progress. The question is what direction that progress is heading. But he doesn't speak. That's part of the problem. The media jumps all over him for not speaking because they want their quotes and what not, which I could not care less about. But I do want him to speak just to give the fan base an idea of what is going on. I'm ok with him not tipping his hand. But once you trade possibly your best RB in franchise history, a QB who had put up historic numbers, bring in guys with major injury history and so on, something is owed to the fan base. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 24, 2015 1:17:30 GMT -5
That was the joke on his low interception numbers. He was so wildly off target even the defensive backs didn't have a shot at catching his passes. I remember one game he started the Broncos only threw like 8 passes the entire game. He completed like 2. Hard to get bad numbers when the coaching staff removes the part of football you suck at from the gameplan. That's like Bob Griese area |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 24, 2015 9:37:35 GMT -5
I think that the Eagles team is a work in progress. I understand the skepticism. But coming from where I am (Detroit...the graveyard of good football), this is wildly exciting to me. The guy (Kelly) has balls big as church bells. Now that he is not only "cooking" the meals but "buying some of the groceries (thank you B. Parcells)", I am looking forward to what comes down next. Beats the shit out of listening to Lions' "management" ducking out of the presser introducing a near washed up Haloti Ngata replacing Ndamakong Suh. At least Chip speaks... Shameless plug again. See my article in "Towner's Corner". I believe that Kelly will have the last laugh when it is all said and done. They absoutley are a work in progress. The question is what direction that progress is heading. But he doesn't speak. That's part of the problem. The media jumps all over him for not speaking because they want their quotes and what not, which I could not care less about. But I do want him to speak just to give the fan base an idea of what is going on. I'm ok with him not tipping his hand. But once you trade possibly your best RB in franchise history, a QB who had put up historic numbers, bring in guys with major injury history and so on, something is owed to the fan base. Didn't know that. Sounds like what Mayhew and Caldwell in Detroit. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 24, 2015 10:47:25 GMT -5
I think that the Eagles team is a work in progress. I understand the skepticism. But coming from where I am (Detroit...the graveyard of good football), this is wildly exciting to me. The guy (Kelly) has balls big as church bells. Now that he is not only "cooking" the meals but "buying some of the groceries (thank you B. Parcells)", I am looking forward to what comes down next. Beats the shit out of listening to Lions' "management" ducking out of the presser introducing a near washed up Haloti Ngata replacing Ndamakong Suh. At least Chip speaks... Shameless plug again. See my article in "Towner's Corner". I believe that Kelly will have the last laugh when it is all said and done. They absolutely are a work in progress. The question is what direction that progress is heading. But he doesn't speak. That's part of the problem. The media jumps all over him for not speaking because they want their quotes and what not, which I could not care less about. But I do want him to speak just to give the fan base an idea of what is going on. I'm ok with him not tipping his hand. But once you trade possibly your best RB in franchise history, a QB who had put up historic numbers, bring in guys with major injury history and so on, something is owed to the fan base. If that's the Eagles best runner in history they have a lot more problems But I believe that Watters, Wilbert and Westbrook were all better (Wilbert and Westbrook for sure) and you'd have to ask 50 but I believe they had a great RB way back named Van Buren. McCoy is a very good back but Kelly wants a north south kinda guy not a dancer McCoy also led the league in negative carries last season |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 24, 2015 11:25:32 GMT -5
They absolutely are a work in progress. The question is what direction that progress is heading. But he doesn't speak. That's part of the problem. The media jumps all over him for not speaking because they want their quotes and what not, which I could not care less about. But I do want him to speak just to give the fan base an idea of what is going on. I'm ok with him not tipping his hand. But once you trade possibly your best RB in franchise history, a QB who had put up historic numbers, bring in guys with major injury history and so on, something is owed to the fan base. If that's the Eagles best runner in history they have a lot more problems But I believe that Watters, Wilbert and Westbrook were all better (Wilbert and Westbrook for sure) and you'd have to ask 50 but I believe they had a great RB way back named Van Buren. McCoy is a very good back but Kelly wants a north south kinda guy not a dancer McCoy also led the league in negative carries last season Foles is not that good a QB historic numbers or not |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 24, 2015 23:36:58 GMT -5
They absolutely are a work in progress. The question is what direction that progress is heading. But he doesn't speak. That's part of the problem. The media jumps all over him for not speaking because they want their quotes and what not, which I could not care less about. But I do want him to speak just to give the fan base an idea of what is going on. I'm ok with him not tipping his hand. But once you trade possibly your best RB in franchise history, a QB who had put up historic numbers, bring in guys with major injury history and so on, something is owed to the fan base. If that's the Eagles best runner in history they have a lot more problems But I believe that Watters, Wilbert and Westbrook were all better (Wilbert and Westbrook for sure) and you'd have to ask 50 but I believe they had a great RB way back named Van Buren. McCoy is a very good back but Kelly wants a north south kinda guy not a dancer McCoy also led the league in negative carries last season Van Buren was way before my time but I do believe he was every bit good as alot of the old timers claim. But even with that said and Shadys negative carries/carries for no gain he's still in the conversation for their best RB ever and rightfully so. Watters while being very good was only in town for 2 or 3 seasons. He may have the negative yds thing but Montgomery also coughed the ball up 3 times the amount Shady did while having less yards per carry, yds per game and only 1 more TD despite having played in more games. Shady is a borderline HOF player. He gets alot of crap for his "dancing" around in the backfield but he still is the most exciting back in the league in an open field. He was 3rd in the league in rushing last year behind a turnstile Oline for most of the season. Dude is a home run threat every time he touches the ball. And I couldnt disagree more about Foles. Those historic numbers I mentioned were no doubt assisted by some bad defenses that season but I don't care who you're playing, you're not having that kind of run against anyone in the league unless you're a legit starter. And team record could be one of the worst ways of judging a QB but he was 14-4 under Chip. Left the one playoff game in Chips tneure with the lead. He's not Brady/Manning/Rodgers type of elite, but who else besides those guys are? That's not what you need to win anyway. He has the stones to bring teams back from a deficit late in games and has done so many times. That alone is invaluable. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 25, 2015 2:45:00 GMT -5
If that's the Eagles best runner in history they have a lot more problems But I believe that Watters, Wilbert and Westbrook were all better (Wilbert and Westbrook for sure) and you'd have to ask 50 but I believe they had a great RB way back named Van Buren. McCoy is a very good back but Kelly wants a north south kinda guy not a dancer McCoy also led the league in negative carries last season Van Buren was way before my time but I do believe he was every bit good as alot of the old timers claim. But even with that said and Shadys negative carries/carries for no gain he's still in the conversation for their best RB ever and rightfully so. Watters while being very good was only in town for 2 or 3 seasons. He may have the negative yds thing but Montgomery also coughed the ball up 3 times the amount Shady did while having less yards per carry, yds per game and only 1 more TD despite having played in more games. Shady is a borderline HOF player. He gets alot of crap for his "dancing" around in the backfield but he still is the most exciting back in the league in an open field. He was 3rd in the league in rushing last year behind a turnstile Oline for most of the season. Dude is a home run threat every time he touches the ball. And I couldnt disagree more about Foles. Those historic numbers I mentioned were no doubt assisted by some bad defenses that season but I don't care who you're playing, you're not having that kind of run against anyone in the league unless you're a legit starter. And team record could be one of the worst ways of judging a QB but he was 14-4 under Chip. Left the one playoff game in Chips tneure with the lead. He's not Brady/Manning/Rodgers type of elite, but who else besides those guys are? That's not what you need to win anyway. He has the stones to bring teams back from a deficit late in games and has done so many times. That alone is invaluable. RG3 put up some pretty good numbers where is he? Yeah Foles had a good run with a O that teams had no film on (like RG3). But like the read-zone's season 2 ended up with the defenses catching up and finding ways to defense it. So did D's to Foles in the Duc..Eagles O. As for McCoy in the zone blocking scheme that the Duc..Eagles use the most effective runners are the one cut decisive style runners and McCoy is not one of them and as he wouldn't or couldn't change Kelly did it for them. As Murray comes from a zone blocking scheme he should fit the offense better than Shady |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 25, 2015 5:33:28 GMT -5
Van Buren was way before my time but I do believe he was every bit good as alot of the old timers claim. But even with that said and Shadys negative carries/carries for no gain he's still in the conversation for their best RB ever and rightfully so. Watters while being very good was only in town for 2 or 3 seasons. He may have the negative yds thing but Montgomery also coughed the ball up 3 times the amount Shady did while having less yards per carry, yds per game and only 1 more TD despite having played in more games. Shady is a borderline HOF player. He gets alot of crap for his "dancing" around in the backfield but he still is the most exciting back in the league in an open field. He was 3rd in the league in rushing last year behind a turnstile Oline for most of the season. Dude is a home run threat every time he touches the ball. And I couldnt disagree more about Foles. Those historic numbers I mentioned were no doubt assisted by some bad defenses that season but I don't care who you're playing, you're not having that kind of run against anyone in the league unless you're a legit starter. And team record could be one of the worst ways of judging a QB but he was 14-4 under Chip. Left the one playoff game in Chips tneure with the lead. He's not Brady/Manning/Rodgers type of elite, but who else besides those guys are? That's not what you need to win anyway. He has the stones to bring teams back from a deficit late in games and has done so many times. That alone is invaluable. RG3 put up some pretty good numbers where is he? Yeah Foles had a good run with a O that teams had no film on (like RG3). But like the read-zone's season 2 ended up with the defenses catching up and finding ways to defense it. So did D's to Foles in the Duc..Eagles O. As for McCoy in the zone blocking scheme that the Duc..Eagles use the most effective runners are the one cut decisive style runners and McCoy is not one of them and as he wouldn't or couldn't change Kelly did it for them. As Murray comes from a zone blocking scheme he should fit the offense better than Shady In fairness to RG3 he's also coming off of an MCL and regime change. That said even his rookie year doesn't hold a candle to Foles' 2013. I get what you're saying about game tape and stuff, but it's not like he's mobile at all. Or they were running some type of wild trickery. It was all straight forward football. I don't think it was defenses catching up at all that happened, they still lead the league in offense, but more so no time to make reads and no Desean Jackson. While Maclin is also very damn good at tracking the long ball, Jacksons flat out speed allows QB's a certain room for error because he can catch up to balls only he would be able to catch out of the reach of defenders. I'm not saying Foles is heading for the HOF. Or even a top 5 QB year in and out. But he deserved the shot to try. You don't need a superstar QB to win. Just someone that won't lose you games surrounded by the best balanced team you can assemble. And I don't by this north/south runner that Chip supposedly covets so much. He recruited and did pretty well with Lamichael James. Who coincidentally is a midget compared to Shady and much more of a liability in the pass block. And this is also assuming Murray stays healthy. Theres gonna be a drop off in his play, I just pray he plays most of or all of the games. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Mar 25, 2015 9:07:50 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 25, 2015 12:03:48 GMT -5
RG3 put up some pretty good numbers where is he? Yeah Foles had a good run with a O that teams had no film on (like RG3). But like the read-zone's season 2 ended up with the defenses catching up and finding ways to defense it. So did D's to Foles in the Duc..Eagles O. As for McCoy in the zone blocking scheme that the Duc..Eagles use the most effective runners are the one cut decisive style runners and McCoy is not one of them and as he wouldn't or couldn't change Kelly did it for them. As Murray comes from a zone blocking scheme he should fit the offense better than Shady In fairness to RG3 he's also coming off of an MCL and regime change. That said even his rookie year doesn't hold a candle to Foles' 2013. I get what you're saying about game tape and stuff, but it's not like he's mobile at all. Or they were running some type of wild trickery. It was all straight forward football. I don't think it was defenses catching up at all that happened, they still lead the league in offense, but more so no time to make reads and no Desean Jackson. While Maclin is also very damn good at tracking the long ball, Jacksons flat out speed allows QB's a certain room for error because he can catch up to balls only he would be able to catch out of the reach of defenders. I'm not saying Foles is heading for the HOF. Or even a top 5 QB year in and out. But he deserved the shot to try. You don't need a superstar QB to win. Just someone that won't lose you games surrounded by the best balanced team you can assemble. And I don't by this north/south runner that Chip supposedly covets so much. He recruited and did pretty well with Lamichael James. Who coincidentally is a midget compared to Shady and much more of a liability in the pass block. And this is also assuming Murray stays healthy. Theres gonna be a drop off in his play, I just pray he plays most of or all of the games. Did he not have Legarrette Blount as his running mate regardless he inherited James |
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Post by Macho Row on Mar 25, 2015 16:25:31 GMT -5
In fairness to RG3 he's also coming off of an MCL and regime change. That said even his rookie year doesn't hold a candle to Foles' 2013. I get what you're saying about game tape and stuff, but it's not like he's mobile at all. Or they were running some type of wild trickery. It was all straight forward football. I don't think it was defenses catching up at all that happened, they still lead the league in offense, but more so no time to make reads and no Desean Jackson. While Maclin is also very damn good at tracking the long ball, Jacksons flat out speed allows QB's a certain room for error because he can catch up to balls only he would be able to catch out of the reach of defenders. I'm not saying Foles is heading for the HOF. Or even a top 5 QB year in and out. But he deserved the shot to try. You don't need a superstar QB to win. Just someone that won't lose you games surrounded by the best balanced team you can assemble. And I don't by this north/south runner that Chip supposedly covets so much. He recruited and did pretty well with Lamichael James. Who coincidentally is a midget compared to Shady and much more of a liability in the pass block. And this is also assuming Murray stays healthy. Theres gonna be a drop off in his play, I just pray he plays most of or all of the games. Did he not have Legarrette Blount as his running mate regardless he inherited James James was a kelly recruit. Blount was there before kelly even became OC. If I'm not mistaken James and Blount didn't even spend much time splitting carries because of blounts suspension, no? |
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