Chappion
VIP Member
Posts: 21,128
Likes: 2,166
|
Post by Chappion on Sept 9, 2014 20:21:15 GMT -5
GODdell getting fired LOLable It won't happen. He makes like $50m/year. The thought of him being unemployed is comical!!!
|
|
|
Post by mrpickles on Sept 9, 2014 20:22:03 GMT -5
Not the point. Hes proven his worth to them and they love him. At the end of the day this is a blip on the radar and i doubt any of these owners really give a fuck about the situation they are just happy they dont have to go against rice anymore Exactly none of them care. And really should they? This whole thing should have told everyone that. They only came down when they absolutely felt they had to.
|
|
Mr mastodon farm
SportsChatter Hall of Famer
back to back World Series Poster
Posts: 107,966
Likes: 13,004
|
Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 9, 2014 20:29:18 GMT -5
how long before the ray and janay show on lifetime?
|
|
Mr mastodon farm
SportsChatter Hall of Famer
back to back World Series Poster
Posts: 107,966
Likes: 13,004
|
Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 9, 2014 20:30:46 GMT -5
"we know you dont want to press charges against your husband, so we'll do it for you."
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 20:35:16 GMT -5
"we know you dont want to press charges against your husband, so we'll do it for you." Charges? the NFL put Rice in jail?
|
|
|
Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 20:36:28 GMT -5
i saw a crawl on espn where the new jersey prosecutor came out and said the nfl couldnt have seen it bc it was evidence in for a grand jury. You need to change your stance on this. This shit you have spewed on players who have smoked weed vs the defense you have given on the Rice case worries me. im repeating what i read. if thats a grand jury piece of evidence, how the fuck is the nfl at the time relevant to see it?
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 20:42:41 GMT -5
You need to change your stance on this. This shit you have spewed on players who have smoked weed vs the defense you have given on the Rice case worries me. im repeating what i read. if thats a grand jury piece of evidence, how the fuck is the nfl at the time relevant to see it? Ok, so what is your stance.... The NFL didn't see the video and based their suspension on that. But......if they could have or did see the video.......does your opinion change?
|
|
|
Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 20:51:49 GMT -5
I believe they requested it from police and got the shaft... But there's no way in fucking hell I believe they could not have seen it if they really wanted to see it... freedom of information act...Goodell used to be a Lawyer, he knows what's up ever think he DIDNT wanna see it?
|
|
Mr mastodon farm
SportsChatter Hall of Famer
back to back World Series Poster
Posts: 107,966
Likes: 13,004
|
Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 9, 2014 20:55:02 GMT -5
"we know you dont want to press charges against your husband, so we'll do it for you." Charges? the NFL put Rice in jail? no, but the po po did News broke that Rice had been arrested, charged and released from jail on simple assault charges, along with Palmer. It was known at the time that two had gotten into a fight at the Revel Casino in Atlantic City, though details of the altercation were not clear. Rice's attorney described the incident as a "minor physical altercation." Rice had his charges upped to aggravated assault from simple assault after the case was presented by prosecutors to a grand jury. Aggravated assault carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison. Meanwhile, the simple assault charges against Palmer were dropped. Although Palmer indicated later that she did not want to go forward with prosecution, that didn't stop the state from following up.
|
|
|
Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 20:55:38 GMT -5
"nfl couldn't get the video......but TMZ could" fuck off. nfl couldnt get the video when it went down (in Feb). tmz got the video a week after the casino shut down (aka when noone at revel will give a fuck). yea, i see that being possible.
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 20:55:45 GMT -5
freedom of information act...Goodell used to be a Lawyer, he knows what's up ever think he DIDNT wanna see it? ignorance is bliss. but when you are the "head" of billions of dollars.......ignorance is ignorance.
|
|
|
Post by Zig on Sept 9, 2014 20:56:17 GMT -5
freedom of information act...Goodell used to be a Lawyer, he knows what's up ever think he DIDNT wanna see it? didnt you already axe me this and I said that'd be pretty stupid..."nah I don't need to see the evidence" he fucked up man, no matter what the "truth" is. He either saw the tape and said "meh 2 games" or he didnt see the tape when he should have hard to believe the main guys that constantly bitch about how "gay" the NFL is becoming are now defending the puke stain making it gay you guys literally make no sense sometimes I still love football...Goodell fucking sucks
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 20:59:57 GMT -5
ever think he DIDNT wanna see it? didnt you already axe me this and I said that'd be pretty stupid..."nah I don't need to see the evidence" he fucked up man, no matter what the "truth" is. He either saw the tape and said "meh 2 games" or he didnt see the tape when he should have hard to believe the main guys that constantly bitch about how "gay" the NFL is becoming are now defending the puke stain making it gay you guys literally make no sense sometimes I still love football...Goodell fucking sucks Word.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 21:00:45 GMT -5
ever think he DIDNT wanna see it? didnt you already axe me this and I said that'd be pretty stupid..."nah I don't need to see the evidence" he fucked up man, no matter what the "truth" is. He either saw the tape and said "meh 2 games" or he didnt see the tape when he should have hard to believe the main guys that constantly bitch about how "gay" the NFL is becoming are now defending the puke stain making it gay you guys literally make no sense sometimes I still love football...Goodell fucking sucks Word, double word, and triple word. Zig and Jets are killing it.
|
|
|
Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:07:15 GMT -5
im repeating what i read. if thats a grand jury piece of evidence, how the fuck is the nfl at the time relevant to see it? Ok, so what is your stance.... The NFL didn't see the video and based their suspension on that. But......if they could have or did see the video.......does your opinion change? you realize there were two tapes, right? the dragging tape + him admitting he did it = all goodell needed to suspend him.
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 21:11:49 GMT -5
Ok, so what is your stance.... The NFL didn't see the video and based their suspension on that. But......if they could have or did see the video.......does your opinion change? you realize there were two tapes, right? the dragging tape + him admitting he did it = all goodell needed to suspend him. what? You argued the NFL didnt' have rightful access to the elevator tape. I am taking your side (for argumentative sake) that they didn't. What is your stance if they did have access? I understand, not agree with, that the NFL made their judgement based off of the drag video + confession......but it's clear Rice lied about it all and his wife covered him.....and the nfl "fell for it". those defending the NFL can't ever.......EVER.......make fun of kraft for getting "duped".
|
|
|
Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:14:20 GMT -5
Do you guys even realize where the Rice punch happened? Or how the tape got out. New casino in AC, the Revel. It's already out of business and closed down. Someone with access to that who probably didn't give a shit because the casino and hotel is dead and gone sold it to TMZ. Who cares who had access to it? Its out. How many videos are there online of police car dashboard cams?
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 21:17:31 GMT -5
Do you guys even realize where the Rice punch happened? Or how the tape got out. New casino in AC, the Revel. It's already out of business and closed down. Someone with access to that who probably didn't give a shit because the casino and hotel is dead and gone sold it to TMZ. Who cares who had access to it? Its out. How many videos are there online of police car dashboard cams? Again, I don't understand the point with this. What is your point?
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 21:19:03 GMT -5
All of you would have a point if there wasn't outcry before this new video. But there was. This video did nothing but support all of us who thought the original suspension was outrageous from the start.
|
|
|
Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 9, 2014 21:23:30 GMT -5
All of you would have a point if there wasn't outcry before this new video. But there was. This video did nothing but support all of us who thought the original suspension was outrageous from the start. It was outrageous, but why does this video change anything? It should have been more severe from the start because, you know, he beat up a woman. But it doesn't mean they should be able to go back now that this video is public and change their minds. And I don't believe for one second that the NFL is seeing this thing for the very first time today.
|
|
|
Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:24:00 GMT -5
Do you guys even realize where the Rice punch happened? Or how the tape got out. New casino in AC, the Revel. It's already out of business and closed down. Someone with access to that who probably didn't give a shit because the casino and hotel is dead and gone sold it to TMZ. Who cares who had access to it? Its out. How many videos are there online of police car dashboard cams? Again, I don't understand the point with this. What is your point? You said the NFL didn't have rightful access to the tape. How do you know that they weren't in contact with the Revel beforehand. I would bet money Goodell watched the tape over and over with his hand down his pants. The Revel guy saying "Fuck it" and selling it to TMZ is the only reason we got to see it, so now Goodell is playing spin doctor.
|
|
|
Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:24:46 GMT -5
ever think he DIDNT wanna see it? didnt you already axe me this and I said that'd be pretty stupid..."nah I don't need to see the evidence" he fucked up man, no matter what the "truth" is. He either saw the tape and said "meh 2 games" or he didnt see the tape when he should have hard to believe the main guys that constantly bitch about how "gay" the NFL is becoming are now defending the puke stain making it gay you guys literally make no sense sometimes I still love football...Goodell fucking sucks when you guys make assumptions, you ignore everything that's said. i said if goodell didnt see it, i think it's because he would have been told no. read news type stuff. it can be interesting sometimes. THIS JUST IN: Spokesman for New Jersey state attorney general says it would have been illegal to release Ray Rice video to NFL. (via @abc) you think a "former lawyer" wouldnt know that it would be illegal to see that tape? hmmm. i think goodell made a decision based off rice's admission and the video that was made public. my comments about the league, it's faggot scumbag piece of shit players such as Rice which make me dislike the league so much, not it's commish. so overall, approximately 0% of you post regarding what i think of this situation and the nfl is dead wrong.
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 21:26:38 GMT -5
All of you would have a point if there wasn't outcry before this new video. But there was. This video did nothing but support all of us who thought the original suspension was outrageous from the start. It was outrageous, but why does this video change anything? It should have been more severe from the start because, you know, he beat up a woman. But it doesn't mean they should be able to go back now that this video is public and change their minds. And I don't believe for one second that the NFL is seeing this thing for the very first time today. I agree with all of that. The NFL looks horrible here. They are in a lose/lose thanks to themselves.
|
|
|
Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:26:55 GMT -5
All of you would have a point if there wasn't outcry before this new video. But there was. This video did nothing but support all of us who thought the original suspension was outrageous from the start. You're a little slow... Initial situation: Goodell says that they've seen the tape and that the suspension is based on the fact that Rice wasn't the aggressor and was defending himself and that this fact was taken into account with his suspension. At this point, we have to go by what they tell us because we haven't seen the tape. Current situation: We've all see the tape, and realize that Goodell was blowing smoke up our asses, now he's in damage control, saying they never saw the tape that they said that they already saw.
|
|
jets12
VIP Member
Posts: 54,920
Likes: 9,986
|
Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 21:28:21 GMT -5
Again, I don't understand the point with this. What is your point? You said the NFL didn't have rightful access to the tape. How do you know that they weren't in contact with the Revel beforehand. I would bet money Goodell watched the tape over and over with his hand down his pants. The Revel guy saying "Fuck it" and selling it to TMZ is the only reason we got to see it, so now Goodell is playing spin doctor. Maybe I wasnt clear or you are confusing what I said......................I am on the side the NFL either saw the video and is denying it.......or could have seen the video and is pleading ignorance.
|
|
|
Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:31:03 GMT -5
you realize there were two tapes, right? the dragging tape + him admitting he did it = all goodell needed to suspend him. what? You argued the NFL didnt' have rightful access to the elevator tape. I am taking your side (for argumentative sake) that they didn't. What is your stance if they did have access? I understand, not agree with, that the NFL made their judgement based off of the drag video + confession......but it's clear Rice lied about it all and his wife covered him.....and the nfl "fell for it". those defending the NFL can't ever.......EVER.......make fun of kraft for getting "duped". my bottom dollar opinion, regardless of what led to it is this. Goodell wanted to drop the hammer on Rice. Problem is, there's no "rule" on this scenario (aka something the union has agreed upon), therefore whatever Goodell wanted to do goes through them. I think he went for Rice's throat, the union told him to fuck off (imo due to the lack of the insider elevator video. JUST the drag video doesnt show how severe the beating was). They agreed "give 'em 2 games, and we will work out a rule for future cases" (which if you notice, that rule came pretty quick after the Rice shit). Goodell swallowed his pride, bit the bullet, and did the two games, knowing he has his own rule now in place. Fast forward to the elevator tape released. Goodell NOW has the evidence he needed to bury Rice, Ravens cut him, and Goodell drops the hammer. That's my end of the day opinion of what went down. Does my opinion on Goodell change if it turns out he saw it? Absolutely, but as of right now I see Goodell as a guy who wants to bang out scumbags in his league.
|
|
|
Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 9, 2014 21:31:50 GMT -5
It was outrageous, but why does this video change anything? It should have been more severe from the start because, you know, he beat up a woman. But it doesn't mean they should be able to go back now that this video is public and change their minds. And I don't believe for one second that the NFL is seeing this thing for the very first time today. I agree with all of that. The NFL looks horrible here. They are in a lose/lose thanks to themselves. Yeah they really do. They were asking for something like this the day the commissioners office decided to be judge and jury, as opposed to letting the individual teams and the law handle these situations.
|
|
|
Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:31:49 GMT -5
You said the NFL didn't have rightful access to the tape. How do you know that they weren't in contact with the Revel beforehand. I would bet money Goodell watched the tape over and over with his hand down his pants. The Revel guy saying "Fuck it" and selling it to TMZ is the only reason we got to see it, so now Goodell is playing spin doctor. Maybe I wasnt clear or you are confusing what I said......................I am on the side the NFL either saw the video and is denying it.......or could have seen the video and is pleading ignorance. Ah, I thought you wanted to be Goodell's little spoon.
|
|
|
Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:32:56 GMT -5
Do you guys even realize where the Rice punch happened? Or how the tape got out. New casino in AC, the Revel. It's already out of business and closed down. Someone with access to that who probably didn't give a shit because the casino and hotel is dead and gone sold it to TMZ. Who cares who had access to it? Its out. How many videos are there online of police car dashboard cams? i've only said this about 2032043 times. video came out 6 days after revel closed. people are really dumb if they dont put the time frame together.
|
|
|
Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:34:22 GMT -5
Do you guys even realize where the Rice punch happened? Or how the tape got out. New casino in AC, the Revel. It's already out of business and closed down. Someone with access to that who probably didn't give a shit because the casino and hotel is dead and gone sold it to TMZ. Who cares who had access to it? Its out. How many videos are there online of police car dashboard cams? i've only said this about 2032043 times. video came out 6 days after revel closed. people are really dumb if they dont put the time frame together. Jets is only here when Maury and Ellen are over in the morning, so figured he may have missed it. And its fucking hysterical that Revel is already closed. How long had it been open? Did it even hit 2 years? AC blows.
|
|