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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:37:12 GMT -5
It was outrageous, but why does this video change anything? It should have been more severe from the start because, you know, he beat up a woman. But it doesn't mean they should be able to go back now that this video is public and change their minds. And I don't believe for one second that the NFL is seeing this thing for the very first time today. I agree with all of that. The NFL looks horrible here. They are in a lose/lose thanks to themselves. funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. |
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Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 21:42:20 GMT -5
I agree with all of that. The NFL looks horrible here. They are in a lose/lose thanks to themselves. funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. i was done for the night until this........so if your trying to troll me you win. The fact that you think there would have been outcry if rice got an 8 game suspension is ludicrous. Fucking crazy. |
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Post by Zig on Sept 9, 2014 21:44:13 GMT -5
I agree with all of that. The NFL looks horrible here. They are in a lose/lose thanks to themselves. Yeah they really do. They were asking for something like this the day the commissioners office decided to be judge and jury, as opposed to letting the individual teams and the law handle these situations. yeah I can see handing out punishments for PEDs and shit that affects the game but off field stuff...slippery slope when most of these guys are animals lol |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 9, 2014 21:45:15 GMT -5
didnt you already axe me this and I said that'd be pretty stupid..."nah I don't need to see the evidence" he fucked up man, no matter what the "truth" is. He either saw the tape and said "meh 2 games" or he didnt see the tape when he should have hard to believe the main guys that constantly bitch about how "gay" the NFL is becoming are now defending the puke stain making it gay you guys literally make no sense sometimes I still love football...Goodell fucking sucks when you guys make assumptions, you ignore everything that's said. i said if goodell didnt see it, i think it's because he would have been told no. read news type stuff. it can be interesting sometimes. THIS JUST IN: Spokesman for New Jersey state attorney general says it would have been illegal to release Ray Rice video to NFL. (via @abc) you think a "former lawyer" wouldnt know that it would be illegal to see that tape? hmmm. i think goodell made a decision based off rice's admission and the video that was made public. my comments about the league, it's faggot scumbag piece of shit players such as Rice which make me dislike the league so much, not it's commish. so overall, approximately 0% of you post regarding what i think of this situation and the nfl is dead wrong. So...TMZ outscooped he NFL? Is that what you believe? Donald Sterling lost his team over an illegally recorded conversation. You really don't think Goodell had a chance to see this? Maybe TMZ just pays better. |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:46:08 GMT -5
funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. i was done for the night until this........so if your trying to troll me you win. The fact that you think there would have been outcry if rice got an 8 game suspension is ludicrous. Fucking crazy. you dont know the world you live in holmes. you give him half a season on what in so many words would be a rule made up on the fly with no video of him or witnesses SEEING him do it, bleeding hearts and lawyer types would go bonkers. do you acknowledge how fast the half season/perma-ban rule came out AFTER this awful 2 game suspension? think about it. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 9, 2014 21:46:28 GMT -5
Yeah they really do. They were asking for something like this the day the commissioners office decided to be judge and jury, as opposed to letting the individual teams and the law handle these situations. yeah I can see handing out punishments for PEDs and shit that affects the game but off field stuff...slippery slope when most of these guys are animals lol Yep. Does MLB hand out suspensions for DUI's? Or any other law enforcement issue? Maybe. I don't know, but I don't remember hearing anything about it if they do. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 21:46:45 GMT -5
I agree with all of that. The NFL looks horrible here. They are in a lose/lose thanks to themselves. funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. Its the double Jeopardy crap is why it stinks.. New Evidence is a cop out.. The evidence was there. It just didn't go public. I have a hard time believe a guy with his kinda pull is just completely ignorant that this existed. NFL is about protecting its image. That is what this was about.. That is all this is... |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:50:00 GMT -5
when you guys make assumptions, you ignore everything that's said. i said if goodell didnt see it, i think it's because he would have been told no. read news type stuff. it can be interesting sometimes. THIS JUST IN: Spokesman for New Jersey state attorney general says it would have been illegal to release Ray Rice video to NFL. (via @abc) you think a "former lawyer" wouldnt know that it would be illegal to see that tape? hmmm. i think goodell made a decision based off rice's admission and the video that was made public. my comments about the league, it's faggot scumbag piece of shit players such as Rice which make me dislike the league so much, not it's commish. so overall, approximately 0% of you post regarding what i think of this situation and the nfl is dead wrong. So...TMZ outscooped he NFL? Is that what you believe? Donald Sterling lost his team over an illegally recorded conversation. You really don't think Goodell had a chance to see this? Maybe TMZ just pays better. No, NFL didn't expect some brand new mega casino to go out of business in the blink of an eye, so they probably assumed the security footage was never gonna see the light of day and their word was all that the public would ever have to go on. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 9, 2014 21:50:30 GMT -5
I agree with all of that. The NFL looks horrible here. They are in a lose/lose thanks to themselves. funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. I don't think Goodell really gave a shit when he gave the 2 games out. He took a LOT of heat for being too lenient in the first place. Then he saw the outrage caused by his bad decision. Now he is spinning this like he is horrified. The video shouldn't have changed much. Everyone knew he knocked her out. |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:51:20 GMT -5
funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. Its the double Jeopardy crap is why it stinks.. New Evidence is a cop out.. The evidence was there. It just didn't go public. I have a hard time believe a guy with his kinda pull is just completely ignorant that this existed. NFL is about protecting its image. That is what this was about.. That is all this is... The NFL is it's own entity though. This isn't some situation that is following any legal code. They can make up the rules a as they go along and no one can stop them. |
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Post by jets12 on Sept 9, 2014 21:51:33 GMT -5
i was done for the night until this........so if your trying to troll me you win. The fact that you think there would have been outcry if rice got an 8 game suspension is ludicrous. Fucking crazy. you dont know the world you live in holmes. you give him half a season on what in so many words would be a rule made up on the fly with no video of him or witnesses SEEING him do it, bleeding hearts and lawyer types would go bonkers. do you acknowledge how fast the half season/perma-ban rule came out AFTER this awful 2 game suspension? think about it. The NFL fucked up from the start. Don't give me "after this new video" shit.............they fucked up from the start, i said it from the start, we argued it from the start. You can't give 2 fucking games for this......when you give 4 fucking games for taking god damn molly. This guy beat a woman.......beat her......dragged her out of an elevator............yam how are you defending this? He gets half a season........who gives a fuck? ok......the NFL has to fight it in the court of law.....why do they care? they win the PR battle, and if your arguing the PR point that's all that matters. |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 21:52:47 GMT -5
I don't get why people keep mentioning double jeopardy, this is Goodell the Ginger Hammer's monarchy, not the US court system.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 21:55:00 GMT -5
Its the double Jeopardy crap is why it stinks.. New Evidence is a cop out.. The evidence was there. It just didn't go public. I have a hard time believe a guy with his kinda pull is just completely ignorant that this existed. NFL is about protecting its image. That is what this was about.. That is all this is... The NFL is it's own entity though. This isn't some situation that is following any legal code. They can make up the rules a as they go along and no one can stop them. I know, the CBA is the constitution for the NFL. Provided they did not violate it. Legally, there no problem. I was just sharing my opinion.. Tis all |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 9, 2014 21:55:50 GMT -5
So...TMZ outscooped he NFL? Is that what you believe? Donald Sterling lost his team over an illegally recorded conversation. You really don't think Goodell had a chance to see this? Maybe TMZ just pays better. No, NFL didn't expect some brand new mega casino to go out of business in the blink of an eye, so they probably assumed the security footage was never gonna see the light of day and their word was all that the public would ever have to go on. Most people knew of this video weeks ago though...and its details. If that really was the league's strategy, they're dumbasses. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 9, 2014 21:56:42 GMT -5
you dont know the world you live in holmes. you give him half a season on what in so many words would be a rule made up on the fly with no video of him or witnesses SEEING him do it, bleeding hearts and lawyer types would go bonkers. do you acknowledge how fast the half season/perma-ban rule came out AFTER this awful 2 game suspension? think about it. The NFL fucked up from the start. Don't give me "after this new video" shit.............they fucked up from the start, i said it from the start, we argued it from the start. You can't give 2 fucking games for this......when you give 4 fucking games for taking god damn molly. This guy beat a woman.......beat her......dragged her out of an elevator............yam how are you defending this? He gets half a season........who gives a fuck? ok......the NFL has to fight it in the court of law.....why do they care? they win the PR battle, and if your arguing the PR point that's all that matters. You are on point, Jets. Yam has been defending Goodell from day 1 on this shit. "A rule is a rule" is what he'll tell you. That's what he told me about Josh Gordon. Goodell fucked this up. It's his mess. Going from 2 games "slap on the wrist" to kicked out of the league because it a video is absurd. We already saw him dragging her out of the elevator. You don't need to be a genius to figure out what happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 21:57:04 GMT -5
I don't get why people keep mentioning double jeopardy, this is Goodell the Ginger Hammer's monarchy, not the US court system. I know what GODell CAN do. That isn't really a debate.. |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:58:10 GMT -5
when you guys make assumptions, you ignore everything that's said. i said if goodell didnt see it, i think it's because he would have been told no. read news type stuff. it can be interesting sometimes. THIS JUST IN: Spokesman for New Jersey state attorney general says it would have been illegal to release Ray Rice video to NFL. (via @abc) you think a "former lawyer" wouldnt know that it would be illegal to see that tape? hmmm. i think goodell made a decision based off rice's admission and the video that was made public. my comments about the league, it's faggot scumbag piece of shit players such as Rice which make me dislike the league so much, not it's commish. so overall, approximately 0% of you post regarding what i think of this situation and the nfl is dead wrong. So...TMZ outscooped he NFL? Is that what you believe? Donald Sterling lost his team over an illegally recorded conversation. You really don't think Goodell had a chance to see this? Maybe TMZ just pays better. yes, i do. some grunt who scored the video sells it to tmz. he gets paid and stays anonymous. |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:58:43 GMT -5
yeah I can see handing out punishments for PEDs and shit that affects the game but off field stuff...slippery slope when most of these guys are animals lol Yep. Does MLB hand out suspensions for DUI's? Or any other law enforcement issue? Maybe. I don't know, but I don't remember hearing anything about it if they do. i dont think so. but a dui isnt the same as the nonsense the nfl animals are doing. |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 21:59:35 GMT -5
funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. Its the double Jeopardy crap is why it stinks.. New Evidence is a cop out.. The evidence was there. It just didn't go public. I have a hard time believe a guy with his kinda pull is just completely ignorant that this existed. NFL is about protecting its image. That is what this was about.. That is all this is... protecting its image? josh gordon and wes welker somewhere are pointing and laughing at you. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 9, 2014 22:00:55 GMT -5
Yep. Does MLB hand out suspensions for DUI's? Or any other law enforcement issue? Maybe. I don't know, but I don't remember hearing anything about it if they do. i dont think so. but a dui isnt the same as the nonsense the nfl animals are doing. I just used that as an example of a law enforcement issue. I honestly don't remember a single instance where MLB has suspended somebody for such an issue. Maybe it's because baseball players just don't commonly run afoul of the law. |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 9, 2014 22:01:15 GMT -5
No, NFL didn't expect some brand new mega casino to go out of business in the blink of an eye, so they probably assumed the security footage was never gonna see the light of day and their word was all that the public would ever have to go on. Most people knew of this video weeks ago though...and its details. If that really was the league's strategy, they're dumbasses. Exactly, the issue is that they said they saw the video and lied about what happened, then the video leaked and they said "oh, we never saw that." They're morons |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 22:01:54 GMT -5
funny thing is goodell smacks him with a 8+ game suspension, bleeding hearts cry about how "he's gotten help" and "they are happily married" and "she dropped the charged", etc, etc, etc. the pussified america we live in imo is why his suspension was so low. I don't think Goodell really gave a shit when he gave the 2 games out. He took a LOT of heat for being too lenient in the first place. Then he saw the outrage caused by his bad decision. Now he is spinning this like he is horrified. The video shouldn't have changed much. Everyone knew he knocked her out. i watched his interview when he fielded questions right after the suspension. he looked pissed. pissed like "this suspension is bullshit and i want everyone to know i wnated to give him more" look on his face. thats the vibe i got. if im wrong, i agree with you guys. but the vibe i got was he was a lawyer who got fucked by lawyer shit on this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 22:03:50 GMT -5
Its the double Jeopardy crap is why it stinks.. New Evidence is a cop out.. The evidence was there. It just didn't go public. I have a hard time believe a guy with his kinda pull is just completely ignorant that this existed. NFL is about protecting its image. That is what this was about.. That is all this is... protecting its image? josh gordon and wes welker somewhere are pointing and laughing at you. You don't think something like the NFL doesn't care about protecting its image? Now having things backfire, doesn't mean they still don't care about PR. You can't be this stupid.. |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 22:04:10 GMT -5
you dont know the world you live in holmes. you give him half a season on what in so many words would be a rule made up on the fly with no video of him or witnesses SEEING him do it, bleeding hearts and lawyer types would go bonkers. do you acknowledge how fast the half season/perma-ban rule came out AFTER this awful 2 game suspension? think about it. The NFL fucked up from the start. Don't give me "after this new video" shit.............they fucked up from the start, i said it from the start, we argued it from the start. You can't give 2 fucking games for this......when you give 4 fucking games for taking god damn molly. This guy beat a woman.......beat her......dragged her out of an elevator............yam how are you defending this? He gets half a season........who gives a fuck? ok......the NFL has to fight it in the court of law.....why do they care? they win the PR battle, and if your arguing the PR point that's all that matters. welker gets 4 games bc it's an established rule with black and white guidelines. domestic shit had NO rule. he based the 2 games off "similar previous cases". does anyone have an idea what scenarios he went off of? i have wondered that. im not defending what rice did at all. im simply preaching our legal system (which sucks bc it defends faggots like rice). |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 22:07:01 GMT -5
The NFL fucked up from the start. Don't give me "after this new video" shit.............they fucked up from the start, i said it from the start, we argued it from the start. You can't give 2 fucking games for this......when you give 4 fucking games for taking god damn molly. This guy beat a woman.......beat her......dragged her out of an elevator............yam how are you defending this? He gets half a season........who gives a fuck? ok......the NFL has to fight it in the court of law.....why do they care? they win the PR battle, and if your arguing the PR point that's all that matters. You are on point, Jets. Yam has been defending Goodell from day 1 on this shit. "A rule is a rule" is what he'll tell you. That's what he told me about Josh Gordon. Goodell fucked this up. It's his mess. Going from 2 games "slap on the wrist" to kicked out of the league because it a video is absurd. We already saw him dragging her out of the elevator. You don't need to be a genius to figure out what happened. a rule is a rule. dont bring gordon into this. that dumbfuck failed a drug test for his second suspension. end of story. whats the rule on domestics when this happened? oh, none. he went light (imo based off his wife not pressing charges and him having a clean history). my issue is that people are making assumptions abotu what and why goodell did. for the 208239th time, you realize that something like this goodell would have to deal with the union before making a ruling, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 22:09:24 GMT -5
The NFL fucked up from the start. Don't give me "after this new video" shit.............they fucked up from the start, i said it from the start, we argued it from the start. You can't give 2 fucking games for this......when you give 4 fucking games for taking god damn molly. This guy beat a woman.......beat her......dragged her out of an elevator............yam how are you defending this? He gets half a season........who gives a fuck? ok......the NFL has to fight it in the court of law.....why do they care? they win the PR battle, and if your arguing the PR point that's all that matters. welker gets 4 games bc it's an established rule with black and white guidelines. domestic shit had NO rule. he based the 2 games off "similar previous cases". does anyone have an idea what scenarios he went off of? i have wondered that. im not defending what rice did at all. im simply preaching our legal system (which sucks bc it defends faggots like rice). Daryl Washington had a domestic abuse case in 2013. But he was suspended the first 4 games for PEDs "black and white guidelines"..Then all this year for another PED thing... I think he hasn't even been punished for that...at all... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 22:12:20 GMT -5
All of you would have a point if there wasn't outcry before this new video. But there was. This video did nothing but support all of us who thought the original suspension was outrageous from the start. It was outrageous, but why does this video change anything? It should have been more severe from the start because, you know, he beat up a woman. But it doesn't mean they should be able to go back now that this video is public and change their minds. And I don't believe for one second that the NFL is seeing this thing for the very first time today. Yep. Exactly right.
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 22:23:15 GMT -5
welker gets 4 games bc it's an established rule with black and white guidelines. domestic shit had NO rule. he based the 2 games off "similar previous cases". does anyone have an idea what scenarios he went off of? i have wondered that. im not defending what rice did at all. im simply preaching our legal system (which sucks bc it defends faggots like rice). Daryl Washington had a domestic abuse case in 2013. But he was suspended the first 4 games for PEDs "black and white guidelines"..Then all this year for another PED thing... I think he hasn't even been punished for that...at all... he was suspended for peds, which there are guidelines for. he hasnt been suspended for the domestic which there were no rules for. i dont get the point..... |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 9, 2014 22:24:01 GMT -5
I don't think Goodell really gave a shit when he gave the 2 games out. He took a LOT of heat for being too lenient in the first place. Then he saw the outrage caused by his bad decision. Now he is spinning this like he is horrified. The video shouldn't have changed much. Everyone knew he knocked her out. i watched his interview when he fielded questions right after the suspension. he looked pissed. pissed like "this suspension is bullshit and i want everyone to know i wnated to give him more" look on his face. thats the vibe i got. if im wrong, i agree with you guys. but the vibe i got was he was a lawyer who got fucked by lawyer shit on this one. If he wanted to give him more if a suspension, he would have. That's the advantage when you are judge, jury and executioner. There is nobody to check his authority. |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 9, 2014 22:26:11 GMT -5
i watched his interview when he fielded questions right after the suspension. he looked pissed. pissed like "this suspension is bullshit and i want everyone to know i wnated to give him more" look on his face. thats the vibe i got. if im wrong, i agree with you guys. but the vibe i got was he was a lawyer who got fucked by lawyer shit on this one. If he wanted to give him more if a suspension, he would have. That's the advantage when you are judge, jury and executioner. There is nobody to check his authority. sorry union, you get no say anymore - commish chappee |
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