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Post by redseat on Aug 5, 2014 16:40:43 GMT -5
I am thinking that's what Drew will hit at seasons end (.240/.250) but his defense will be very good. I didn't even see but how many games did Roberts even play in this year with the Yankees? 91 games. Had 10 errors, not 14. Still bad. yikes, people don't even have 10 errors all season! |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 16:42:16 GMT -5
"$ 240 mil for a guy who is going to give us about 12 homers a year? Brilliant!" "Yeah but he has a great batting average - that's the stat used most on TV" - Dirt. While he has a shot to end up with his highest avg. number this year, and likely will set a mark for OBP, he is also in line to set career worsts in homers, r.b.i, runs scored, and SLG %. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Aug 5, 2014 16:44:33 GMT -5
I am thinking that's what Drew will hit at seasons end (.240/.250) but his defense will be very good. I didn't even see but how many games did Roberts even play in this year with the Yankees? 91 games. Had 10 errors, not 14. Still bad. Same fielding percentage as Jeter at .974. Jeter with 8 errors. But let's not even consider that Drew should be playing SS while Jeter DH's or (gasp) sits out a few games here and there. |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 16:45:16 GMT -5
Tom Werner - Among the potential top 3 picks to be the new MLB commissioner after 2014 when Selig retires I wish Hank Greenburg's son would take the job. He is very qualified I.M.O, but, he has no interest. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 16:46:20 GMT -5
"Yeah but he has a great batting average - that's the stat used most on TV" - Dirt. While he has a shot to end up with his highest avg. number this year, and likely will set a mark for OBP, he is also in line to set career worsts in homers, r.b.i, runs scored, and SLG %. 138 wRC+ 4.1 WAR Best 2nd baseman in the game this year. |
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Post by redseat on Aug 5, 2014 16:46:26 GMT -5
Tom Werner - Among the potential top 3 picks to be the new MLB commissioner after 2014 when Selig retires I wish Hank Greenburg's son would take the job. He is very qualified I.M.O, but, he has no interest. But that wouldn't make sense... someone that actually knows what they are doing holding the position of Commissioner.. |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 16:51:37 GMT -5
While he has a shot to end up with his highest avg. number this year, and likely will set a mark for OBP, he is also in line to set career worsts in homers, r.b.i, runs scored, and SLG %. 138 wRC+ 4.1 WAR Best 2nd baseman in the game this year. So, what I say is true, and, what you say is true. What does this mean, other than 2B guys are kind of sucking this year? |
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Post by JerzyJeff on Aug 5, 2014 16:53:36 GMT -5
91 games. Had 10 errors, not 14. Still bad. Same fielding percentage as Jeter at .974. Jeter with 8 errors. But let's not even consider that Drew should be playing SS while Jeter DH's or (gasp) sits out a few games here and there. I know you're busting but they've been resting Jeter off and on all year. Brendan Ryan and his invisible bat plays once a week and they do use him at DH from time to time as well. Can't DH him more with Beltran unable to play in the OF. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 16:55:23 GMT -5
138 wRC+ 4.1 WAR Best 2nd baseman in the game this year. So, what I say is true, and, what you say is true. What does this mean, other than 2B guys are kind of sucking this year? Neil Walker, Zobrist, Altuve, and Daniel Murphy are also having very good offensive seasons (120 or higher wRC+) So I wouldn't say that the position sucks as a whole, it's just that Cano is producing in a different way than he has in the past. Pretty smart actually when you consider what Safeco does to sluggers. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Aug 5, 2014 17:00:43 GMT -5
By the way Boston.... Pedroia is far and away the best defensive 2B in baseball this year...a pretty staggering 14.5 defensive WAR. Next closest is 8.2 Doesn't soften the blow of feeling that I have been cheated out of way too many lazer shows this year......... I don't think I like the twinge of snark in your tone. Shape up mister. |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 17:08:35 GMT -5
So, what I say is true, and, what you say is true. What does this mean, other than 2B guys are kind of sucking this year? Neil Walker, Zobrist, Altuve, and Daniel Murphy are also having very good offensive seasons (120 or higher wRC+) So I wouldn't say that the position sucks as a whole, it's just that Cano is producing in a different way than he has in the past. Pretty smart actually when you consider what Safeco does to sluggers. You say differently. I say a slightly net less. Still, I don't think this was a surprise to anyone. Or, at least, it should not have been. |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 17:11:30 GMT -5
Doesn't soften the blow of feeling that I have been cheated out of way too many lazer shows this year......... I don't think I like the twinge of snark in your tone. Shape up mister. Tough and gritty may work for Sox fans. Me, I need raw stats. GOOD raw stats....... |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 17:13:23 GMT -5
Neil Walker, Zobrist, Altuve, and Daniel Murphy are also having very good offensive seasons (120 or higher wRC+) So I wouldn't say that the position sucks as a whole, it's just that Cano is producing in a different way than he has in the past. Pretty smart actually when you consider what Safeco does to sluggers. You say differently. I say a slightly net less. Still, I don't think this was a surprise to anyone. Or, at least, it should not have been. Yeah I'd prefer the slugging too if I was a Mariners fan. It drove me nuts last season when Votto's power was zapped...but in the end, getting on base, therefore not making an out, is what hitting is all about. |
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Post by JerzyJeff on Aug 5, 2014 17:15:23 GMT -5
Neil Walker, Zobrist, Altuve, and Daniel Murphy are also having very good offensive seasons (120 or higher wRC+) So I wouldn't say that the position sucks as a whole, it's just that Cano is producing in a different way than he has in the past. Pretty smart actually when you consider what Safeco does to sluggers. You say differently. I say a slightly net less. Still, I don't think this was a surprise to anyone. Or, at least, it should not have been. I'd have figured his doubles to be up, homers, RBIs, runs and AVE. down. Figured the park would turn his HRs to doubles and no protection in the line-up to affect his overall production. Figured they wouldn't give him anything good to hit unless they had to and he isn't renowned for plate discipline. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:15:25 GMT -5
So, what I say is true, and, what you say is true. What does this mean, other than 2B guys are kind of sucking this year? Neil Walker, Zobrist, Altuve, and Daniel Murphy are also having very good offensive seasons (120 or higher wRC+) So I wouldn't say that the position sucks as a whole, it's just that Cano is producing in a different way than he has in the past. Pretty smart actually when you consider what Safeco does to sluggers. Rookie Tommy LaStella is doing pretty good, too. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 17:18:49 GMT -5
Neil Walker, Zobrist, Altuve, and Daniel Murphy are also having very good offensive seasons (120 or higher wRC+) So I wouldn't say that the position sucks as a whole, it's just that Cano is producing in a different way than he has in the past. Pretty smart actually when you consider what Safeco does to sluggers. Rookie Tommy LaStella is doing pretty good, too. He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 17:18:57 GMT -5
You say differently. I say a slightly net less. Still, I don't think this was a surprise to anyone. Or, at least, it should not have been. Yeah I'd prefer the slugging too if I was a Mariners fan. It drove me nuts last season when Votto's power was zapped...but in the end, getting on base, therefore not making an out, is what hitting is all about. Great call on Cano - Votto. And, to that end, OBP is great. BUT, you also need to make sure you have more than just one or two guys that can drive that guy in. Otherwise, you end up with a guy with high avg & OBP numbers, but little else. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:22:17 GMT -5
Rookie Tommy LaStella is doing pretty good, too. He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. I look for LaStella to keep on getting better and better. I see him having at least one or two all-star seasons. He has stepped in for Uggla when we needed him to and given us a reason to get rid of Mr. Uggla for good. |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 17:23:03 GMT -5
Neil Walker, Zobrist, Altuve, and Daniel Murphy are also having very good offensive seasons (120 or higher wRC+) So I wouldn't say that the position sucks as a whole, it's just that Cano is producing in a different way than he has in the past. Pretty smart actually when you consider what Safeco does to sluggers. Rookie Tommy LaStella is doing pretty good, too. Pretty good, yes. But check this. 63 hits so far this year. 12 doubles. 1 triple. AND 50 SINGLES. Welcome to the new Mr. Punch & Judy |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 17:23:13 GMT -5
Yeah I'd prefer the slugging too if I was a Mariners fan. It drove me nuts last season when Votto's power was zapped...but in the end, getting on base, therefore not making an out, is what hitting is all about. Great call on Cano - Votto. And, to that end, OBP is great. BUT, you also need to make sure you have more than just one or two guys that can drive that guy in. Otherwise, you end up with a guy with high avg & OBP numbers, but little else. Yep..no doubt. You load the bases in an inning that's a .500 team OBP...but who cares if none of them score? But the law averages say that the more guys you get on base, the more you'll score over the loooooooong season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:24:42 GMT -5
Rookie Tommy LaStella is doing pretty good, too. He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. Jose Abreu is really becoming the next great pure hitter in the majors.. Its amazing the Talent that his been hidden in Cuba.. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:25:09 GMT -5
Rookie Tommy LaStella is doing pretty good, too. Pretty good, yes. But check this. 63 hits so far this year. 12 doubles. 1 triple. AND 50 SINGLES. Welcome to the new Mr. Punch & Judy Compared to the rest of the Braves I'll take that any day. Mr. Punch and Judy can bat second eventually and score a bunch of runs - if the Braves can get somebody who can hit behind him to go along with Freeman. |
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Post by bigddude on Aug 5, 2014 17:26:30 GMT -5
Rookie Tommy LaStella is doing pretty good, too. He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. 2 knocks. He can't hit lefties, and, he can't stay healthy for more that a few weeks at a time. Other than that, he has had a nice breakout sort of year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:26:44 GMT -5
He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. Jose Abreu is really becoming the next great pure hitter in the majors.. Its amazing the Talent that his been hidden in Cuba.. Yes, he has all the goods to be truly great. He started off slow with a low BA but he is knocking the cover off the ball all over the place now. Wonder how long he'll stay in Chicago. |
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Post by BUCCS469 on Aug 5, 2014 17:28:02 GMT -5
He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. Jose Abreu is really becoming the next great pure hitter in the majors.. Its amazing the Talent that his been hidden in Cuba.. chris davis was doing that last year....but he died to death this year |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 17:28:07 GMT -5
He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. I look for LaStella to keep on getting better and better. I see him having at least one or two all-star seasons. He has stepped in for Uggla when we needed him to and given us a reason to get rid of Mr. Uggla for good. With what you've been subjected to with Uggla the last few years...I'd be excited about anyone different. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:29:27 GMT -5
I look for LaStella to keep on getting better and better. I see him having at least one or two all-star seasons. He has stepped in for Uggla when we needed him to and given us a reason to get rid of Mr. Uggla for good. With what you've been subjected to with Uggla the last few years...I'd be excited about anyone different. Exactly. LOL Anybody who can hit above the Mendoza line is a plus. LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:30:35 GMT -5
Jose Abreu is really becoming the next great pure hitter in the majors.. Its amazing the Talent that his been hidden in Cuba.. chris davis was doing that last year....but he died to death this year Abreu has much better Contact skills than Davis. Davis's BA has been getting killed because of the shift this year (and the fact he K's a bunch) |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 17:31:25 GMT -5
He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. Jose Abreu is really becoming the next great pure hitter in the majors.. Its amazing the Talent that his been hidden in Cuba.. He was dubbed the Cuban Barry Bonds... But yeah...between him, Chapman, Cespedes, Puig, Fernandez... I bet they're just the beginning. I'm excited to see what Raciel Iglesias has. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 17:32:46 GMT -5
He's ok...105 wRC+ Scooter Gennett is the guy...123...just short of the required qualifying AB's though. 2 knocks. He can't hit lefties, and, he can't stay healthy for more that a few weeks at a time. Other than that, he has had a nice breakout sort of year. I was just talking about this year specifically...but yeah. Those two reasons are why he doesn't currently have the qualifying AB's |
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