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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:10:35 GMT -5
That makes one person that calls Pedro Martinez the greatest baseball player in 60 years Perhaps Bonds has an argument... Lets simplify... Best pitcher in 60 years, easily... Ive never heard that stated Honestly, never |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:10:50 GMT -5
That makes one person in 100 years of baseball think Don Zimmer is an "Idiot" Thats one dirt, we loved zimm here too but he was a moron that day what 105 year old man charges out of a dugout and tries to take down a guy 1/3 his age? pedro did him a favor by "olaying" him like that Word... A lesser man would have tornado kicked him in the ear.... |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:11:56 GMT -5
dirt, we loved zimm here too but he was a moron that day what 105 year old man charges out of a dugout and tries to take down a guy 1/3 his age? pedro did him a favor by "olaying" him like that I never blamed Pedro for that day But for Zim to do that, summed up what baseball thinks of a guy like Pedro Word... They were tired of him buttfucking the Yankees at every turn... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:12:02 GMT -5
dirt, we loved zimm here too but he was a moron that day what 105 year old man charges out of a dugout and tries to take down a guy 1/3 his age? pedro did him a favor by "olaying" him like that Word... A lesser man would have tornado kicked him in the ear.... WOW |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:12:40 GMT -5
I never blamed Pedro for that day But for Zim to do that, summed up what baseball thinks of a guy like Pedro Word... They were tired of him buttfucking the Yankees at every turn... Yankees destroyed that guy You kidding me? We love us Pedro in this town |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:13:37 GMT -5
Perhaps Bonds has an argument... Lets simplify... Best pitcher in 60 years, easily... Ive never heard that stated Honestly, never We know... Pettitte was better, right? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:14:52 GMT -5
Ive never heard that stated Honestly, never We know... Pettitte was better, right? No, I just never heard someone call Pedro Martinez the best pitcher in the last 60 years |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:20:53 GMT -5
Word... They were tired of him buttfucking the Yankees at every turn... Yankees destroyed that guy You kidding me? We love us Pedro in this town Yankees hit .211 vs Pedro in his career with a ops of .603.... LMAO.... You wanna we Mo's numbed vs Boston, lol? No... No, you don't... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:22:03 GMT -5
Yankees destroyed that guy You kidding me? We love us Pedro in this town Yankees hit .211 vs Pedro in his career with a ops of .603.... LMAO.... You wanna we Mo's numbed vs Boston, lol? No... No, you don't... POstseason, Fuck the meaningless regular season When Pedro was facing the Yankees, regular season meant shit You know what I think of when I think of choking? I think of Pedro Game 7 2003 Thats what I think of |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:24:16 GMT -5
We know... Pettitte was better, right? No, I just never heard someone call Pedro Martinez the best pitcher in the last 60 years He didn't have the longevity of Randy Johnson or Roger Clemens... But Pedro in his prime was simply the best... And he put up those numbers sharing a division with the Yankees at the height of their powers and with baseball at the apex of the steroid era... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:25:10 GMT -5
No, I just never heard someone call Pedro Martinez the best pitcher in the last 60 years He didn't have the longevity of Randy Johnson or Roger Clemens... But Pedro in his prime was simply the best... And he put up those numbers sharing a division with the Yankees at the height of their powers and with baseball at the apex of the steroid era... Pedro was Great Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens in their primes were also insane, and they did it longer |
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Post by OXlodge on Aug 5, 2014 13:28:56 GMT -5
Post season:
Smoltz>>>>>>>>>>Pedro
Really not that close.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:29:39 GMT -5
Pedro in the postseason... 3.46 ERA in 96 innings 4.72 in the LCS Greg Maddux > Pedro taking the Lester argument... Pedro sucks. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 13:33:39 GMT -5
Pedro in the postseason... 3.46 ERA in 96 innings 4.72 in the LCS Greg Maddux > Pedro taking the Lester argument... Pedro sucks. Actually...for all the shit Maddux takes for his postseason failures? He had a 3.27 ERA in the postseason in 198 innings There's no doubt that Maddux was better than Pedro in every measurable. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:33:43 GMT -5
Randy Johnson > Pedro
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 13:34:20 GMT -5
Hey just a heads up
over the last 5 years ... Jon Lester has the same ERA+ as CJ Wilson (115)
please leave me alone now
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Aug 5, 2014 13:37:10 GMT -5
Hey just a heads up over the last 5 years ... Jon Lester has the same ERA+ as CJ Wilson (115) please leave me alone now So you think the Red Sox robbed the As in that trade, is that what I'm reading? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:37:50 GMT -5
He didn't have the longevity of Randy Johnson or Roger Clemens... But Pedro in his prime was simply the best... And he put up those numbers sharing a division with the Yankees at the height of their powers and with baseball at the apex of the steroid era... Pedro was Great Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens in their primes were also insane, and they did it longer They were bigger stronger men who were more durable and compiled their way to greater aggregate totals... Pedro's career averages piss on theirs... He has lower era, much better era+, better whip, more Ks per 9 than Clemens, but less than RJ,... And Pedro's peak years decimate Clemens or Rjs peak years... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:38:50 GMT -5
Pedro was Great Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens in their primes were also insane, and they did it longer They were bigger stronger men who were more durable and compiled their way to greater aggregate totals... Pedro's career averages piss on theirs... He has lower era, much better era+, better whip, more Ks per 9 than Clemens, but less than RJ,... And Pedro's peak years decimate Clemens or Rjs peak years... Dont Dis-agree I just always hated Chokers, and Pedro's postseason was the absolute definition of one |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 13:40:33 GMT -5
Hey just a heads up over the last 5 years ... Jon Lester has the same ERA+ as CJ Wilson (115) please leave me alone now i wonder if cole's era vs al teams is single or double digits. |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 13:42:03 GMT -5
Pedro was Great Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens in their primes were also insane, and they did it longer They were bigger stronger men who were more durable and compiled their way to greater aggregate totals... Pedro's career averages piss on theirs... He has lower era, much better era+, better whip, more Ks per 9 than Clemens, but less than RJ,... And Pedro's peak years decimate Clemens or Rjs peak years... "oh yea, did he win a world series mvp?" - pickles |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:50:17 GMT -5
They were bigger stronger men who were more durable and compiled their way to greater aggregate totals... Pedro's career averages piss on theirs... He has lower era, much better era+, better whip, more Ks per 9 than Clemens, but less than RJ,... And Pedro's peak years decimate Clemens or Rjs peak years... Dont Dis-agree I just always hated Chokers, and Pedro's postseason was the absolute definition of one He is an all time post season choke because a Jorge Posada pop up found a hole? We want to talk post season choke artists, the line starts with Mariano Rivera... Jebron is nodding and smiling right now.... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:52:31 GMT -5
Dont Dis-agree I just always hated Chokers, and Pedro's postseason was the absolute definition of one He is an all time post season choke because a Jorge Posada pop up found a hole? We want to talk post season choke artists, the line starts with Mariano Rivera... Jebron is nodding and smiling right now.... You do know that no one in the history of baseball would label the all time saves leader in postseason history as a "Choke" You do know that right? |
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Post by redseat on Aug 5, 2014 13:55:43 GMT -5
Dont Dis-agree I just always hated Chokers, and Pedro's postseason was the absolute definition of one He is an all time post season choke because a Jorge Posada pop up found a hole? We want to talk post season choke artists, the line starts with Mariano Rivera... Jebron is nodding and smiling right now....  I love to hate on the Yankees.. but come on man... Really? .7 era is terrible? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:56:57 GMT -5
He is an all time post season choke because a Jorge Posada pop up found a hole? We want to talk post season choke artists, the line starts with Mariano Rivera... Jebron is nodding and smiling right now.... I love to hate on the Yankees.. but come on man... Really? .7 era is terrible? Hes Just being silly |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 14:00:38 GMT -5
He is an all time post season choke because a Jorge Posada pop up found a hole? We want to talk post season choke artists, the line starts with Mariano Rivera... Jebron is nodding and smiling right now.... You do know that no one in the history of baseball would label the all time saves leader in postseason history as a "Choke" You do know that right? Who cares that he single handed my cost them a Title in 01 and 04... You should have sen how unhittable he was in the 1999 ALDS! The man got a standing ovation at Fenway Park for the role he played in the Red Sox breaking the curse... |
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 14:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 14:09:34 GMT -5
oh hey
lookie what i found
"interleague stats"
lester: 14-6 3.08 era
hamels: 7-13 4.52 era
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 14:11:40 GMT -5
oh hey lookie what i found "interleague stats" lester: 14-6 3.08 era hamels: 7-13 4.52 era "if lester played in the nl full time, he would be a cy young winner, if kershaw didnt exist, yada yada yada" hamels on the other hand, would be a left handed lackey. |
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 14:14:43 GMT -5
oh hey lookie what i found "interleague stats" lester: 14-6 3.08 era hamels: 7-13 4.52 era CJ Wilson You lost |
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