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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 8:47:24 GMT -5
for as much as cole makes, just spend that on lester. let cole stay in the sandbox with the sped teams. Cole is due $96 lester will be rolling in at least $50 more I would think pretty much this. None of this makes any sense to me. Somebody is going to have to collect money from the Red Sox next year and somebody is going to have to be brought in as a front of the rotation veteran arm. Why would they give up prospects and then pay Cole Hamels that kind of money when they could have just paid John Lester a little bit more and kept all of the prospects? None of it makes any sense. Lester is a proven commodity in Boston who knows can perform in the postseason. None of this makes any sense. |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:54:45 GMT -5
Cole is due $96 lester will be rolling in at least $50 more I would think pretty much this. None of this makes any sense to me. Somebody is going to have to collect money from the Red Sox next year and somebody is going to have to be brought in as a front of the rotation veteran arm. Why would they give up prospects and then pay Cole Hamels that kind of money when they could have just paid John Lester a little bit more and kept all of the prospects? None of it makes any sense. Lester is a proven commodity in Boston who knows can perform in the postseason. None of this makes any sense. when snoogs doesnt act retarded, he makes intelligent points, such as this one. sincerely, the guy who never agrees with snoogs |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 8:54:58 GMT -5
Cole is due $96 lester will be rolling in at least $50 more I would think pretty much this. None of this makes any sense to me. Somebody is going to have to collect money from the Red Sox next year and somebody is going to have to be brought in as a front of the rotation veteran arm. Why would they give up prospects and then pay Cole Hamels that kind of money when they could have just paid John Lester a little bit more and kept all of the prospects? None of it makes any sense. Lester is a proven commodity in Boston who knows can perform in the postseason. None of this makes any sense. Cant Kill the Sox for it really....A lot of it is hindsight.......Guy was approaching 30, they rolled the dice and lost.....They banked on him not being quite as great as he has been this season, and probably thought they could find some middle ground at seasons end at around maybe $110??? (Just a guess) The thing people seem to keep missing with this trade to the A's I understand the thinking "A's cant sign him, its a perfect spot for the Sox, cause they could bring him back" Flipside of that.......The Sox just made the A's serious WS contendors, maybe favorites, and if Lester shines on that big stage again, with everyone watching, you and I know what that will do to his value......How many times do guys get more than maybe they should because of the bright lights in October.... Its why I keep saying that Lester can really get into some serious territory, of $140 - 170 million....He could set up a case to be paid as much as CC was, and some of these other guys Dont forget, Sherzer turned down $144 million, and Lester will have every right to ask for more than Scherzer |
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 8:59:25 GMT -5
Lester is getting 6 maybe 7 years.
Losing 1 major prospect if it comes to that is worth it. To take a guy who is better and only on the hook for 4 years.
None of this major contracts for guys 30 and older have worked. The red sox are damn smart on this if you ask me. Not even factoring in they got a right handed middle of the order bat in addition.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 9:00:38 GMT -5
Lester is getting 6 maybe 7 years. Losing 1 major prospect if it comes to that is worth it. To take a guy who is better and only on the hook for 4 years. None of this major contracts for guys 30 and older have worked. The red sox are damn smart on this if you ask me. Not even factoring in they got a right handed middle of the order bat in addition. time will tell offseason will be interesting |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 9:06:38 GMT -5
Lester is getting 6 maybe 7 years. Losing 1 major prospect if it comes to that is worth it. To take a guy who is better and only on the hook for 4 years. None of this major contracts for guys 30 and older have worked. The red sox are damn smart on this if you ask me. Not even factoring in they got a right handed middle of the order bat in addition. time will tell offseason will be interesting someone will offer lester a stupid contract he would be braindead to turn down, and any "legit" gm would be moronic to match. this happens ALLLLL the time. unless he has an agent named pickles who doesnt sell his playoff performances. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 9:08:00 GMT -5
Perhaps the sox realized paying pitchers with that many innings already under their belt a long contract has proven silly. For all the talk about your farm system, why don't they find some young guys that can pitch? Many other teams do it, who don't have the #1 ranked farm system of all time. The Indians are paying Corey Kluber half a mill this year to be lights out. Kluber emerging as a Cy Young Candidate |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 9:11:47 GMT -5
pretty much this. None of this makes any sense to me. Somebody is going to have to collect money from the Red Sox next year and somebody is going to have to be brought in as a front of the rotation veteran arm. Why would they give up prospects and then pay Cole Hamels that kind of money when they could have just paid John Lester a little bit more and kept all of the prospects? None of it makes any sense. Lester is a proven commodity in Boston who knows can perform in the postseason. None of this makes any sense. Cant Kill the Sox for it really....A lot of it is hindsight.......Guy was approaching 30, they rolled the dice and lost.....They banked on him not being quite as great as he has been this season, and probably thought they could find some middle ground at seasons end at around maybe $110??? (Just a guess) The thing people seem to keep missing with this trade to the A's I understand the thinking "A's cant sign him, its a perfect spot for the Sox, cause they could bring him back" Flipside of that.......The Sox just made the A's serious WS contendors, maybe favorites, and if Lester shines on that big stage again, with everyone watching, you and I know what that will do to his value......How many times do guys get more than maybe they should because of the bright lights in October.... Its why I keep saying that Lester can really get into some serious territory, of $140 - 170 million....He could set up a case to be paid as much as CC was, and some of these other guys Dont forget, Sherzer turned down $144 million, and Lester will have every right to ask for more than Scherzer I will root for Jon Lester to resign in Boston until the day he signed a new contract. Having said that? I don't think that that's going to happen. I think it is a real long shot. & I don't think the fact that they chose Auckland to trade him to has the least bit to do with him being able or not being able to re sign there. I think it has to do with the fact that they got the young power hitting corner outfielder that they desperately desperately needed. |
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Post by summersausage on Aug 5, 2014 9:27:25 GMT -5
That's fair Rock, so the question is, if you have capable young arms, why bother giving out an overpriced contract that will probably prove worthless in the back half? Spend that money elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 9:35:58 GMT -5
That's fair Rock, so the question is, if you have capable young arms, why bother giving out an overpriced contract that will probably prove worthless in the back half? Spend that money elsewhere. matter of whats a known vs an unknown need at least one bonafide guy ass your #1 instead of 5 question marks |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 10:08:02 GMT -5
Price/Kuroda Tonight
Kinsler, Miggy, Tori, Victor
Outside of those 4, that lineup is really not impressive
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Post by OXlodge on Aug 5, 2014 10:09:55 GMT -5
Price/Kuroda Tonight Kinsler, Miggy, Tori, Victor Outside of those 4, that lineup is really not impressive Rajai Davis has been solid. That's why they were able to part with Jackson. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 10:16:46 GMT -5
Price/Kuroda Tonight Kinsler, Miggy, Tori, Victor Outside of those 4, that lineup is really not impressive JD Martinez has swung the bat like Mike Trout this year, bud... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 10:41:37 GMT -5
Price/Kuroda Tonight Kinsler, Miggy, Tori, Victor Outside of those 4, that lineup is really not impressive JD Martinez has swung the bat like Mike Trout this year, bud... JD Martinez had an absolutely awful July IMO, thats not just a blip, thats the league saying, "Ok, this is fucking JD Martinez" Ox, Youre right, Rajai has been very good for them |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 10:46:01 GMT -5
JD Martinez has swung the bat like Mike Trout this year, bud...
IMO, thats not just a blip, thats the league saying, "Ok, this is fucking JD Martinez" Ox, Youre right, Rajai has been very good for them .345 5 HR's 15 RBI "absolutely awful" Assuming we are talking about the tigers dude, have him in fantasy. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 10:48:53 GMT -5
JD Martinez had an absolutely awful July
IMO, thats not just a blip, thats the league saying, "Ok, this is fucking JD Martinez" Ox, Youre right, Rajai has been very good for them .345 5 HR's 15 RBI "absolutely awful" Assuming we are talking about the tigers dude, have him in fantasy. is that right? I stand corrected............They mentioned someone on the Tigers playing awful in July, Could have sworn it was him |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 10:50:59 GMT -5
JD Martinez has swung the bat like Mike Trout this year, bud... JD Martinez had an absolutely awful July IMO, thats not just a blip, thats the league saying, "Ok, this is fucking JD Martinez" Ox, Youre right, Rajai has been very good for them WHAT?!?!?! He had a fucking torrid July... He hit .345 and slugged over .600... |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 10:55:15 GMT -5
curt schilling >>> roger clemens In all seriousness if your life was on the line and you had to pick one guy to win you one game... Nobody is taking Clemens, bro... |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Aug 5, 2014 10:56:01 GMT -5
Can we reset the reset? Neither Dustin Pedrioia nor Jacoby Ellsbury are having a better season than Dr. Smooth himself, Michael Brantley. The Indians were able to sign him to a four year extension worth only $25 million... And the indians just beat the best rotation in baseball last night. So there's that too. |
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Post by OXlodge on Aug 5, 2014 12:32:22 GMT -5
I think Atlanta should trade Freeman, Simmons and Justin Upton. I mean what the hell right? Why should they play for a playoff spot only eventually to lose to the Dodgers again? At least they can get back prospects and get ready for 2015. At least they can say to themselves "yeah we threw in the season, no sense of making the playoffs when the Dodgers are just too good"
"What Selig should do is go ditch the WC spots go back to 2 divisions in each league and the division winners make the playoffs. The 93 Giants would love that idea.
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 12:35:13 GMT -5
I think Atlanta should trade Freeman, Simmons and Justin Upton. I mean what the hell right? Why should they play for a playoff spot only eventually to lose to the Dodgers again? At least they can get back prospects and get ready for 2015. At least they can say to themselves "yeah we threw in the season, no sense of making the playoffs when the Dodgers are just too good" "What Selig should do is go ditch the WC spots go back to 2 divisions in each league and the division winners make the playoffs. The 93 Giants would love that idea. It really may take the cake for dumbest thing we have ever had to defend on this board "Quitting is the way to go" |
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Post by BUCCS469 on Aug 5, 2014 12:46:18 GMT -5
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 12:56:23 GMT -5
Never get tired of watching Pedro put that idiot in his place...
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 12:59:26 GMT -5
That makes one person in 100 years of baseball think Don Zimmer is an "Idiot"
Thats one
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:03:31 GMT -5
That makes one person in 100 years of baseball think Don Zimmer is an "Idiot" Thats one You challenge the greatest baseball player in 60 years like Zim did? He richly earns the title of "idiot" |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:04:31 GMT -5
That makes one person in 100 years of baseball think Don Zimmer is an "Idiot" Thats one You challenge the greatest baseball player in 60 years like Zim did? He richly earns the title of "idiot" That makes one person that calls Pedro Martinez the greatest baseball player in 60 years |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 13:04:59 GMT -5
That makes one person in 100 years of baseball think Don Zimmer is an "Idiot" Thats one dirt, we loved zimm here too but he was a moron that day what 105 year old man charges out of a dugout and tries to take down a guy 1/3 his age? pedro did him a favor by "olaying" him like that |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 13:06:30 GMT -5
That makes one person in 100 years of baseball think Don Zimmer is an "Idiot" Thats one dirt, we loved zimm here too but he was a moron that day what 105 year old man charges out of a dugout and tries to take down a guy 1/3 his age? pedro did him a favor by "olaying" him like that I never blamed Pedro for that day But for Zim to do that, summed up what baseball thinks of a guy like Pedro |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Aug 5, 2014 13:08:22 GMT -5
dirt, we loved zimm here too but he was a moron that day what 105 year old man charges out of a dugout and tries to take down a guy 1/3 his age? pedro did him a favor by "olaying" him like that I never blamed Pedro for that day But for Zim to do that, summed up what baseball thinks of a guy like Pedro I think Zimmer thought he could take him. Pedro's pretty small. Let's just say Zimmer probably wouldn't be bum rushing CC if the situation was reversed. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 13:09:45 GMT -5
You challenge the greatest baseball player in 60 years like Zim did? He richly earns the title of "idiot" That makes one person that calls Pedro Martinez the greatest baseball player in 60 years Perhaps Bonds has an argument... Lets simplify... Best pitcher in 60 years, easily... |
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