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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 7:39:42 GMT -5
Cole Hamels, does not shit on Jon Lester
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 7:41:23 GMT -5
Cole Hamels, does not shit on Jon Lester if hes in boston next year, will you feel the same way?
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 7:43:11 GMT -5
Cole Hamels, does not shit on Jon Lester if hes in boston next year, will you feel the same way? Yes I dont even like Cole Hamels ... i thought this was well known here (apparantly not) ... but facts are facts, he's a much better pitcher and I hope he is in Boston next year ... and mookie is here :-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 7:44:49 GMT -5
if hes in boston next year, will you feel the same way? Yes I dont even like Cole Hamels ... i thought this was well known here (apparantly not) ... but facts are facts, he's a much better pitcher and I hope he is in Boston next year ... and mookie is here :-) no way you can have JBJ, WMB and ranaudo
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 7:50:10 GMT -5
both june and july (over 80 innings pitched)... hamels has an era under 2.... BAA under .200
the guy is a beast
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:02:38 GMT -5
Cole Hamels, does not shit on Jon Lester 2.59 vs 2.42 era = "shits on him" however a full run difference in the playoffs? "meh, playoffs dont make someone really good" im guessing lester WOULDNT be in the cy young race if he was playing in the wiffle ball league called the nl? lulz
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:03:26 GMT -5
Cole Hamels, does not shit on Jon Lester if hes in boston next year, will you feel the same way? negative. hamels wont be nearly as good playing with in the grown adult league. "hey, where's the pitcher hit in this league for my easy out?"
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 8:05:53 GMT -5
Cole Hamels, does not shit on Jon Lester 2.59 vs 2.42 era = "shits on him" however a full run difference in the playoffs? "meh, playoffs dont make someone really good" im guessing lester WOULDNT be in the cy young race if he was playing in the wiffle ball league called the nl? lulz here is the splits .... since May its not even close (ie drop his horrendous April, when he was hurt). But honestly i dont even need the stats to tell me. Just watch them both pitch. espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/6216/cole-hamels
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 8:08:39 GMT -5
LOL
Hamels has given up 2 runs in his last 4 starts ....
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:10:30 GMT -5
both june and july (over 80 innings pitched)... hamels has an era under 2.... BAA under .200 the guy is a beast "june and july stats makes a guy an ace, september/october/november? pffffft, that's football season!"
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 8:12:54 GMT -5
both june and july (over 80 innings pitched)... hamels has an era under 2.... BAA under .200 the guy is a beast "june and july stats makes a guy an ace, september/october/november? pffffft, that's football season!" LOL Ive honestly never heard postseason stats brought up so much for a fucking pitcher in my life, when comparing who is better. you know why.....?
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:15:37 GMT -5
2.59 vs 2.42 era = "shits on him" however a full run difference in the playoffs? "meh, playoffs dont make someone really good" im guessing lester WOULDNT be in the cy young race if he was playing in the wiffle ball league called the nl? lulz here is the splits .... since May its not even close (ie drop his horrendous April, when he was hurt). But honestly i dont even need the stats to tell me. Just watch them both pitch. espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/6216/cole-hamelslol look at his stats, except this month, and except this month, and except the playoffs.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 8:19:08 GMT -5
lol look at his stats, except this month, and except this month, and except the playoffs. yessss ... excluding the 2 starts he was hurt for ... tremendous reach on my part
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:20:37 GMT -5
LOL Hamels has given up 2 runs in his last 4 starts .... in his last 5 starts, 6 runs allowed in lester's 5 last starts, 6 runs allowed. BUT BUT BUT, you cant count games where the sun shined for more then 30 minutes, the moon was full, or hamels pitched without shaving!!!!!
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:26:42 GMT -5
"june and july stats makes a guy an ace, september/october/november? pffffft, that's football season!" LOL Ive honestly never heard postseason stats brought up so much for a fucking pitcher in my life, when comparing who is better. you know why.....? my guess would be bc outside of 2008, no phillie fan around your age can ever say something good about playoff performances, so they avoid the topic at all costs? "but but but we had the best record in 2011, we really were the champs!!!!" and yes, ive heard that before. lester/hamels are pretty damm close in the regular season, so it's on to the playoff stats.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 8:26:49 GMT -5
Cole is due $96 lester will be rolling in at least $50 more I would think "Hamels is a better /equal pitcher and at $50 million less!! I'll take that every day ... Charrington Does it Again! "- Boston circa april 2015 Only one person thinks Lester is better than hamels ... its yam, should tell you all you need to know nobody from boston is even close to being a hypocrite on this one
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 8:47:57 GMT -5
"Hamels is a better /equal pitcher and at $50 million less!! I'll take that every day ... Charrington Does it Again! "- Boston circa april 2015 Only one person thinks Lester is better than hamels ... its yam, should tell you all you need to know nobody from boston is even close to being a hypocrite on this one weird. i've said they are pretty much a coin flip, with lester having clearly better playoff numbers. which is all in retort to "hamels shits on lester", which numerous people disagreed with. play on playa!
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 8:51:49 GMT -5
Only one person thinks Lester is better than hamels ... its yam, should tell you all you need to know nobody from boston is even close to being a hypocrite on this one weird. i've said they are pretty much a coin flip, with lester having clearly better playoff numbers. which is all in retort to "hamels shits on lester", which numerous people disagreed with. play on playa! Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also).
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 9:00:08 GMT -5
weird. i've said they are pretty much a coin flip, with lester having clearly better playoff numbers. which is all in retort to "hamels shits on lester", which numerous people disagreed with. play on playa! Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also). oh so they are a coin flip this year, but hamels is clearly better bc of what PRIOR to two years ago? man, i would love to see you negotiate a contract. "well ruben, ignore what my player does in the playoffs and this year, did you see what he did 2 years ago? he was fucking brilliant!!"
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Post by Zig on Aug 5, 2014 9:00:27 GMT -5
weird. i've said they are pretty much a coin flip, with lester having clearly better playoff numbers. which is all in retort to "hamels shits on lester", which numerous people disagreed with. play on playa! Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also). Scal and I both already kicked your ass on this dont make us have to do it again...I like you, dont wanna have to embarass you in front of your friends again... Hamels has been un real lately. I know, I own him... let's leave it at that...I need to win a game? I'm taking Lester over Hamels anyone w/ a brain would
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 9:04:56 GMT -5
Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also). Scal and I both already kicked your ass on this dont make us have to do it again...I like you, dont wanna have to embarass you in front of your friends again... Hamels has been un real lately. I know, I own him... let's leave it at that...I need to win a game? I'm taking Lester over Hamels anyone w/ a brain would "not even the red sox fans agree with you here" - mr denials
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 9:08:24 GMT -5
Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also). oh so they are a coin flip this year, but hamels is clearly better bc of what PRIOR to two years ago? man, i would love to see you negotiate a contract. "well ruben, ignore what my player does in the playoffs and this year, did you see what he did 2 years ago? he was fucking brilliant!!" umm that is precisely how contract negotiations work ... please ignore the fact that my client has been far better over the last 4 years.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 9:09:04 GMT -5
weird. i've said they are pretty much a coin flip, with lester having clearly better playoff numbers. which is all in retort to "hamels shits on lester", which numerous people disagreed with. play on playa! Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also). if Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series like Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series do you think the Phillies win another ring? I will also ask if Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series the way Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series do you think the Red Sox still win last year? Now do you understand why people think the post season stats are important?
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 9:10:29 GMT -5
Scal and I both already kicked your ass on this dont make us have to do it again...I like you, dont wanna have to embarass you in front of your friends again... Hamels has been un real lately. I know, I own him... let's leave it at that...I need to win a game? I'm taking Lester over Hamels anyone w/ a brain would "not even the red sox fans agree with you here" - mr denials you guys say the same dumb shit over an over ... if i have one game, im taking lester .... WHY? On seriously what basis? my guy is a fucking world series MVP and has been far better over the last 3 or 4 years .... but by all means let me listen to your stance that THIS YEAR they are a coin flip and in the postseason lester is far more dominant (again, misleading as shit)
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 9:11:35 GMT -5
Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also). if Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series like Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series do you think the Phillies win another ring? I will also ask if Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series the way Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series do you think the Red Sox still win last year? Now do you understand why people think the post season stats are important? and as I said ... thats wonderful snoogins. but at the end of the day, its one series in a career. it does not make him a better pitcher at all, ever
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 9:13:18 GMT -5
why does Jon Lester always have a whip well over 1.2 ??
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 5, 2014 9:14:28 GMT -5
anyway im done with this nonsense ...
any un-biased fan is taking hamels over lester. its been that way for years now. an this (coin flip) season would not be changing anyones mind
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 9:16:27 GMT -5
oh so they are a coin flip this year, but hamels is clearly better bc of what PRIOR to two years ago? man, i would love to see you negotiate a contract. "well ruben, ignore what my player does in the playoffs and this year, did you see what he did 2 years ago? he was fucking brilliant!!" umm that is precisely how contract negotiations work ... please ignore the fact that my client has been far better over the last 4 years. "ignore the fact lester was lights out in 2013 playoffs, you wanna take a look at what cole hamels does in the regular season vs the likes of the mets" - drew rosenpickles
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 9:18:05 GMT -5
Hamels is a better pitcher. I already said. Shits on was probably too strong. But by all means keep seeing red over one word. Hamels and Lester are a coint flip based on this year. The last few seasons, gues who's been much better. I tend to put much more stock in that. You can choose to hump a sampling ot postseason stats all youd like. (And even that is flawed, bc excludin 2009 hamels has been a beast also). if Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series like Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series do you think the Phillies win another ring? I will also ask if Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series the way Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series do you think the Red Sox still win last year? Now do you understand why people think the post season stats are important? snoogs took smart pills today. when snoogs is schooling you pickles, it's time to hang 'em up. wanna laugh? look at cole's 2008 world series #'s, look at lester 2013, then realize cole got a world series mvo for that lmao.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 9:18:19 GMT -5
if Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series like Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series do you think the Phillies win another ring? I will also ask if Jon Lester pitched in the 2013 World Series the way Cole Hamels pitched in the 2009 World Series do you think the Red Sox still win last year? Now do you understand why people think the post season stats are important? and as I said ... thats wonderful snoogins. but at the end of the day, its one series in a career. it does not make him a better pitcher at all, ever their career numbers are virtually identical. Well I would concede that Hamels has a very very minor statistical advantage I would counter that by saying that he pitches in the National League. The National League sucks huge dick. It sucks gigantic fat floppy elephant dick. Massive humongous dinosaur shitty Tyrannosaurus dick. when you throw that into the mix and then look at the fact that Lester is a proven playoff base and Hamels is hit or miss? I don't see how you don't give the advantage to Lester. I really don't. Taking this a step further if you eliminate Lester is one outlier year where he was terrible his career numbers are better than animals. Now I understand that you can not just throw that out. However having said that unless you believe that Lester has the capability of putting up another five plus BR a season while he is still in his prime? You can't exactly ignore the point that that year was most definitely an outlier.
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