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Post by OXlodge on Jul 25, 2014 9:04:37 GMT -5
I swear, I don't think people follow baseball anymore and just look at the standings when they wake up in the morning. Has anyone been paying attention to contracts lately and the business of baseball as a whole. They way television deals are aiding teams to spend money at a premium?
Someone do me a favor since Ellsbury is such an albatross and terrible contract, someone let me know how much Josh Hamilton is making this year and ask the Angles and their fans how much they care.
Talking about salaries is for teenage boys. "yeah but..but...but...but, hes overpaid" We're in a day and age now where 7th inning MRP with ERAs north of 4 are making 5 or 6 million.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:05:03 GMT -5
Losing Ellsbury hurt... Red Sox weren't going to pay him the money he wanted, they made that clear. Heck it was talked about long before he signed with NY that at some point he would leave Boston. it would be very nice to have a consistant hitter at the top of the line-up but even with him I don't think the Red Sox would be very good this year. Better than they are now perhaps but not by much But the Red Sox are at the bottom of the pack in terms of runs scored. Can't win games if you are not scoring. |
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Post by OXlodge on Jul 25, 2014 9:06:35 GMT -5
Also do me a favor and let me know how much fucking Craig Breslow is making. About 4 million right? Why anyone cares about payroll like they write the checks is beyond my imagination at this point.
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Post by MoonDriven on Jul 25, 2014 9:07:52 GMT -5
Also do me a favor and let me know how much fucking Craig Breslow is making. About 4 million right? Why anyone cares about payroll like they write the checks is beyond my imagination at this point. Discussing salaries in MLB >>>>>> Not much Especially with the big market teams |
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Post by OXlodge on Jul 25, 2014 9:11:49 GMT -5
You know who should be embarrassed? The Boston Red Sox organization. Here they are coming off a WS win and they find themselves in the cellar in a mediocre AL East that was once a powerhouse division.
That the NY Yankees are ahead of them in the standings staring closely at a playoff birth with a 40 year old SS, Kelly Johnson playing 1B, Brian Roberts at 2B, and newly aquired Chase Headley playing 3rd. On top of that, their best pitcher right now is Brandon fucking Mccarthy.
The only embarassment in this room, is the whiney cunt Red Sox fans talking about Ellsbury's salary when he's been their best player all season. Stick that one up your fucking ass Boston.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jul 25, 2014 9:13:22 GMT -5
Nava, Saltamachia Peavy, Victorino, Boegarts All bigger pieces to the 2013 Red Sox than Ellsbury Can NOT make this shit up Nava and Victorino were better hitters last year... This isn't even disputable... The fact that you are even questioning this? Illustrates just how little you know about what you're discussing. But what I was actually saying is... The drop from last year to this year, from those guys and/or their respective positions? Much worse than the Ellsbury to JBJ drop... Fact... Not opinion... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:13:42 GMT -5
Yeah, if he is on the Stephen Drew pay scale. uh huh 200 innings every year, proven post season perfomer, a lefty, amongst the best winning percentages in the game since he's been a full time starter, no arm issues to be concerned about but not worth more than $15 million a year because Rock got mad at Richard Sherman two seasons ago New York and Boston are the only two cities where fans think 'proven post season performer' actually increases a player's value. The rest of the baseball world realizes that a player has to show up for the 162 regualr season games first. "Little Davey Eckstein is worth about $3.5 million a year but we are going to pay him $8 million a year because he's a 'proven post season performer'. |
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Post by redseat on Jul 25, 2014 9:14:54 GMT -5
I am assuming we are talking about Holt, right? He is a good lead off guy no doubt, Ells is better however and yes he is a more dynamic player. Not saying Ells isn't. The Red Sox clearly do miss him but I don't think even with him they would be much better than they are now. you said it woudl be nice to have a consistent hitter at the top of the lineup sox have one Sox would be better with Ellsbury..........but not "in contention" better, they have more issues than just no Ellsbury I never said they would be contending or anything close to that if they had Ellsbury though. |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jul 25, 2014 9:15:32 GMT -5
uh huh 200 innings every year, proven post season perfomer, a lefty, amongst the best winning percentages in the game since he's been a full time starter, no arm issues to be concerned about but not worth more than $15 million a year because Rock got mad at Richard Sherman two seasons ago New York and Boston are the only two cities where fans think 'proven post season performer' actually increases a player's value. The rest of the baseball world realizes that a player has to show up for the 162 regualr season games first. "Little Davey Eckstein is worth about $3.5 million a year but we are going to pay him $8 million a year because he's a 'proven post season performer'. so the whole "he pitches 200 innings a year" went right past your eyeballs, eh? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jul 25, 2014 9:16:40 GMT -5
Ellsbury makes easy catches look hard.... That doesn't make him a great defender... Dude, hes been outstanding in CF Who gives a fuck about a great defensive CF when the Red Sox cant fucking score? Everyone in an around baseball will take a guy that can hit the shit out of the ball, and play an above average CF The reason we are discussing JBJ's glove? Because he cant hit for shit We all know this Yeah... The Red Sox "can't fucking score" so who gives a shit about their centerfield defense... Says the guy pimping the lesser centerfield defense on a team that has scored fewer fucking runs than the Red Sox... Somehow this makes sense to you... |
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Post by MoonDriven on Jul 25, 2014 9:16:53 GMT -5
You know who should be embarrassed? The Boston Red Sox organization. Here they are coming off a WS win and they find themselves in the cellar in a mediocre AL East that was once a powerhouse division. That the NY Yankees are ahead of them in the standings staring closely at a playoff birth with a 40 year old SS, Kelly Johnson playing 1B, Brian Roberts at 2B, and newly aquired Chase Headley playing 3rd. On top of that, their best pitcher right now is Brandon fucking Mccarthy. The only embarassment in this room, is the whiney cunt Red Sox fans talking about Ellsbury's salary when he's been their best player all season. Stick that one up your fucking ass Boston.  |
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Post by OXlodge on Jul 25, 2014 9:17:14 GMT -5
Johnson has been playing 1B and it hasnt been pretty, their putting Mccann there too.
Girardi is a much better manager than Ozzie Farrell that's for sure.
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Post by PeteNYC on Jul 25, 2014 9:17:37 GMT -5
remember about a month and a half ago when rock was humping Xander Bogaerts for being a top 3 shortstop in baseball.... look at that OPS!!!!!!!!!! do you have any fucking clue how many games he has saved with his League Leading Elite Defense! FACT, not opinion! |
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Post by MoonDriven on Jul 25, 2014 9:20:07 GMT -5
Johnson has been playing 1B and it hasnt been pretty, their putting Mccann there too. Girardi is a much better manager than Ozzie Farrell that's for sure. McCann has been moved there since Johnson hit the DL.. and Tex's vag flared up again |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:20:14 GMT -5
Johnson has been playing 1B and it hasnt been pretty, their putting Mccann there too. Girardi is a much better manager than Ozzie Farrell that's for sure. The World Champions can't beat out that? Pathetic. |
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Post by OXlodge on Jul 25, 2014 9:22:43 GMT -5
Johnson has been playing 1B and it hasnt been pretty, their putting Mccann there too. Girardi is a much better manager than Ozzie Farrell that's for sure. McCann has been moved there since Johnson hit the DL.. and Tex's vag flared up again Yeah I know. And they're still a couple of games out of first. And that god awful rotation has actually been a surprise. And they get Toronto this weekend and for whatever reason cant win in the Bronx. They'll take the series. |
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Post by PeteNYC on Jul 25, 2014 9:23:45 GMT -5
lets talk about Xander....rock tell us how we were wrong about him being a steaming pile of elephant shit in 6 AB's in the Word Series, we were told he was MLB Ready.... |
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Post by OXlodge on Jul 25, 2014 9:24:39 GMT -5
lets talk about Xander....rock tell us how we were wrong about him being a steaming pile of elephant shit in 6 AB's in the Word Series, we were told he was MLB Ready.... his gold standard, elite, breath taking defense makes up for it. |
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Post by MoonDriven on Jul 25, 2014 9:24:56 GMT -5
McCann has been moved there since Johnson hit the DL.. and Tex's vag flared up again Yeah I know. And they're still a couple of games out of first. And that god awful rotation has actually been a surprise. And they get Toronto this weekend and for whatever reason cant win in the Bronx. They'll take the series. It's unreal I'm sure you didn't watch yesterday, but Jeter sat. For some reason instead of just moving Ellsbury up to #2, they bat him leadoff and Gardner 2nd They asked Girardi why - "I have my reasons" LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:25:23 GMT -5
in 6 AB's in the Word Series, we were told he was MLB Ready.... his gold standard, elite, breath taking defense makes up for it. never said, el dirto |
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Post by PeteNYC on Jul 25, 2014 9:25:34 GMT -5
remember about a month and a half ago when rock was humping Xander Bogaerts for being a top 3 shortstop in baseball.... look at that OPS!!!!!!!!!! he was when he was a short stop tell me more about molinas batting title! jackass lol so, the Sox moved a top 3 SS in all of baseball in his Rookie Year to sign Drew?!...drew who is batting .119? Wow, Cherington Does it Again!!! |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jul 25, 2014 9:26:22 GMT -5
in 6 AB's in the Word Series, we were told he was MLB Ready.... his gold standard, elite, breath taking defense makes up for it. nobody has ever prasied Bogaerts defense in here EVER |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:26:40 GMT -5
he was when he was a short stop tell me more about molinas batting title! jackass lol so, the Sox moved a top 3 SS in all of baseball in his Rookie Year to sign Drew?!...drew who is batting .119? Wow, Cherington Does it Again!!! yeah everyone knows that was a knee jerk, stupid move no ones denied it, i hated it |
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Post by OXlodge on Jul 25, 2014 9:27:09 GMT -5
his gold standard, elite, breath taking defense makes up for it. nobody has ever prasied Bogaerts defense in here EVER Yeah I know..................I was kidding. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:28:15 GMT -5
his gold standard, elite, breath taking defense makes up for it. nobody has ever prasied Bogaerts defense in here EVER nope this is where they make up things clock work "you guys said john lesters better than sandy koufax, throws 110 mph and will stay in boston for $45.00. bwahahahhahahah" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:30:28 GMT -5
his gold standard, elite, breath taking defense makes up for it. nobody has ever prasied Bogaerts defense in here EVER I obviously wasn't here but if anyone is going to say a short stop is top 3 in baseball, they better be talking something about defense. |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jul 25, 2014 9:32:17 GMT -5
nobody has ever prasied Bogaerts defense in here EVER Yeah I know..................I was kidding. well goddamnit! |
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Post by PeteNYC on Jul 25, 2014 9:33:38 GMT -5
Dude, hes been outstanding in CF Who gives a fuck about a great defensive CF when the Red Sox cant fucking score? Everyone in an around baseball will take a guy that can hit the shit out of the ball, and play an above average CF The reason we are discussing JBJ's glove? Because he cant hit for shit We all know this Yeah... The Red Sox "can't fucking score" so who gives a shit about their centerfield defense... Says the guy pimping the lesser centerfield defense on a team that has scored fewer fucking runs than the Red Sox... Somehow this makes sense to you... only someone as stupid as Snuggles can make our point for us. Sox Score more runs Sox have Willie Fucking Mays in CF Yankees can't score Yankees have a Cigar Store Indian Statue in CF Yankees 6 games better than the Sox It's all about ELITE CF defense! ....wait!! what?! |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jul 25, 2014 9:33:58 GMT -5
you said it woudl be nice to have a consistent hitter at the top of the lineup sox have one Sox would be better with Ellsbury..........but not "in contention" better, they have more issues than just no Ellsbury I never said they would be contending or anything close to that if they had Ellsbury though. Dirt and Ox have been saying it all day. |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jul 25, 2014 9:34:00 GMT -5
nobody has ever prasied Bogaerts defense in here EVER I obviously wasn't here but if anyone is going to say a short stop is top 3 in baseball, they better be talking something about defense. so miggy isn't in the top three best first baseman in baseball? interesting take |
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