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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 29, 2016 9:16:28 GMT -5
Wow the Pirates are low balling the hell out of Gerit Cole.... that can't be good for their chances of signing him long term. He would be a great fit with the Red Sox. I hope he is on their radar.
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 9:19:10 GMT -5
Wow the Pirates are low balling the hell out of Gerit Cole.... that can't be good for their chances of signing him long term. He would be a great fit with the Red Sox. I hope he is on their radar. He's under team control until 2019. He's not arbitration eligible until 2017. They're not low balling him in anyway. He's due league minimum for this season. |
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Post by Scalious on Feb 29, 2016 9:22:03 GMT -5
Wow the Pirates are low balling the hell out of Gerit Cole.... that can't be good for their chances of signing him long term. He would be a great fit with the Red Sox. I hope he is on their radar. boras client. It probably was never happening. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 9:22:19 GMT -5
Wow the Pirates are low balling the hell out of Gerit Cole.... that can't be good for their chances of signing him long term. He would be a great fit with the Red Sox. I hope he is on their radar. they are doing what they are allowed to do and the pirates had little to no chance of signing him long term anyway he would be a great fit with every team in the majors, and has to be on all 29 radars |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 9:31:16 GMT -5
Wow the Pirates are low balling the hell out of Gerit Cole.... that can't be good for their chances of signing him long term. He would be a great fit with the Red Sox. I hope he is on their radar. they are doing what they are allowed to do and the pirates had little to no chance of signing him long term anyway he would be a great fit with every team in the majors, and has to be on all 29 radars They'll have to wait till after the 2019 season. Next year, they'll have to worry about what they're doing with their franchise player who is only due 27 million the next 2 seasons. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 29, 2016 9:59:28 GMT -5
Wow the Pirates are low balling the hell out of Gerit Cole.... that can't be good for their chances of signing him long term. He would be a great fit with the Red Sox. I hope he is on their radar. He's under team control until 2019. He's not arbitration eligible until 2017. They're not low balling him in anyway. He's due league minimum for this season. Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 10:02:03 GMT -5
He's under team control until 2019. He's not arbitration eligible until 2017. They're not low balling him in anyway. He's due league minimum for this season. Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. Mike Trout went through it too. Pittsburgh is doing nothing wrong. This is what is in place for these guys. Being under team control is a bitch. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 10:11:53 GMT -5
He's under team control until 2019. He's not arbitration eligible until 2017. They're not low balling him in anyway. He's due league minimum for this season. Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. the pirates do. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 29, 2016 10:12:05 GMT -5
He's under team control until 2019. He's not arbitration eligible until 2017. They're not low balling him in anyway. He's due league minimum for this season. Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. Sure you do. If you have 0% of resigning him long-term, why pay him five cents more than he's worth? |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 10:13:02 GMT -5
Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. Mike Trout went through it too. Pittsburgh is doing nothing wrong. This is what is in place for these guys. Being under team control is a bitch. plus, how do we know they didn't try to work out a 2-3 year deal? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 29, 2016 10:18:06 GMT -5
Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. Mike Trout went through it too. Pittsburgh is doing nothing wrong. This is what is in place for these guys. Being under team control is a bitch. No he didn't. Trout got paid after his second full season. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 29, 2016 10:23:45 GMT -5
Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. Sure you do. If you have 0% of resigning him long-term, why pay him five cents more than he's worth? Why can't they buy him out now and get him a long term deal? |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 29, 2016 10:25:42 GMT -5
Sure you do. If you have 0% of resigning him long-term, why pay him five cents more than he's worth? Why can't they buy him out now and get him a long term deal? I think that it's fair to presume that they have approached him on that front. His comments are of the "so pay me even though i'm not extending" variety, IMO. And fuck that. |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 10:32:22 GMT -5
Mike Trout went through it too. Pittsburgh is doing nothing wrong. This is what is in place for these guys. Being under team control is a bitch. No he didn't. Trout got paid after his second full season. Exactly he was making league minimum his first 2 full seasons. How much did he make his 3rd full season? 1 million dollars. 2012 and 2013 he made league minimum. 3rd full season he made 1 million, 4th season his first year of arbitration he made 6 million. |
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Post by bigddude on Feb 29, 2016 10:33:01 GMT -5
Agree to disagree.... You don't do that to a guy that has had the past two seasons Cole had. Sure you do. If you have 0% of resigning him long-term, why pay him five cents more than he's worth? For the nth time in a row, Smuck gets it. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 29, 2016 10:48:10 GMT -5
No he didn't. Trout got paid after his second full season. Exactly he was making league minimum his first 2 full seasons. How much did he make his 3rd full season? 1 million dollars. 2012 and 2013 he made league minimum. 3rd full season he made 1 million, 4th season his first year of arbitration he made 6 million. But he had his extension in hand already and knew that no matter what, he was sitting on $145 million before he turned 29... |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 10:54:03 GMT -5
Cole did get a record $8 million when he was drafted
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Post by bigddude on Feb 29, 2016 10:54:32 GMT -5
I keep looking for a related story, that he has since fired his agent. As I can't, maybe he just flat offed him?
Rangers signed INF/OF Ian Desmond to a one-year, $8 million contract.
That is $7.8 million less than the one-year, $15.8 million qualifying offer that Desmond received (and rejected) from the Nationals at the end of the 2015 season.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 10:55:13 GMT -5
I keep looking for a related story, that he has since fired his agent. As I can't, maybe he just flat offed him? Rangers signed INF/OF Ian Desmond to a one-year, $8 million contract. That is $7.8 million less than the one-year, $15.8 million qualifying offer that Desmond received (and rejected) from the Nationals at the end of the 2015 season. i dont feel bad for him fuck that guy for turning down $100M |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 29, 2016 11:02:26 GMT -5
Sure you do. If you have 0% of resigning him long-term, why pay him five cents more than he's worth? For the nth time in a row, Smuck gets it. I don't see why they would decide now that they have no chance of keeping him. Bad business. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 11:04:32 GMT -5
For the nth time in a row, Smuck gets it. I don't see why they would decide now that they have no chance of keeping him. Bad business. 1. they choose to be small market 2. boras 3. they have to pay mccutchen 4. they arent paying both of them |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 11:11:23 GMT -5
I don't see why they would decide now that they have no chance of keeping him. Bad business. 1. they choose to be small market 2. boras 3. they have to pay mccutchen 4. they arent paying both of them They can low ball Cole for three years of arbitration up until 2019. What do you think the Mets are doing with their guys? |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 11:13:39 GMT -5
1. they choose to be small market 2. boras 3. they have to pay mccutchen 4. they arent paying both of them They can low ball Cole for three years of arbitration up until 2019. What do you think the Mets are doing with their guys? exactly they dont owe him shit until he is arbitration eligible. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 29, 2016 11:15:55 GMT -5
They can low ball Cole for three years of arbitration up until 2019. What do you think the Mets are doing with their guys? exactly they dont owe him shit until he is arbitration eligible. It's what everyone does. It's the flipside of "well the other team offered him more money when he became a free agent, so he left". It's a business. Doesn't mean that you have to be cocks to everyone, but satisfying your minimum financial requirements of a contract isn't being a cock. |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 11:18:57 GMT -5
exactly they dont owe him shit until he is arbitration eligible. It's what everyone does. It's the flipside of "well the other team offered him more money when he became a free agent, so he left". It's a business. Doesn't mean that you have to be cocks to everyone, but satisfying your minimum financial requirements of a contract isn't being a cock. Mets have 4 pitchers they can "low ball". And they're going to squeeze as much out of them as they want for peanuts. Until eventually they'll have to trade one....most likely Harvey. |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 11:22:58 GMT -5
Wow, the Mets are sitting pretty with that rotation. Jeter H. Syndegaard only has 0.149 years of service on top of that. And Harvey has 2 more years of arbitration. We maybe talking about a mini dynasty with that staff.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Feb 29, 2016 11:26:01 GMT -5
Wow, the Mets are sitting pretty with that rotation. Jeter H. Syndegaard only has 0.149 years of service on top of that. And Harvey has 2 more years of arbitration. We maybe talking about a mini dynasty with that staff. and Captain America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by bigddude on Feb 29, 2016 11:31:09 GMT -5
For the nth time in a row, Smuck gets it. I don't see why they would decide now that they have no chance of keeping him. Bad business. I don't understand that either. But, with a move like this, it all and only says they are willing to cut him loose. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Feb 29, 2016 11:32:52 GMT -5
They can low ball Cole for three years of arbitration up until 2019. What do you think the Mets are doing with their guys? exactly they dont owe him shit until he is arbitration eligible. There is a difference between "owing" him something and being smart about the way you treat him. |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 29, 2016 11:34:22 GMT -5
Andrew Mccutchen had to wait to get paid too. He was making $ 422K a year his first couple of years. He had to go through the same walk of life and he still got low balled into a 6 year 51 million dollar deal. Cole should shut the fuck up.
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