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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 9:41:48 GMT -5
Turns out Trump was right that Obama's administration was spying on him and his team. This is going to be big. Stay tuned.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 24, 2017 9:52:24 GMT -5
Turns out Trump was right that Obama's administration was spying on him and his team. This is going to be big. Stay tuned. Lol. Baaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
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Post by mell on Mar 24, 2017 10:18:36 GMT -5
Turns out Trump was right that Obama's administration was spying on him and his team. This is going to be big. Stay tuned. Foxnews reporting Trumps name might have been picked up during legal surveillance of "foreign targets" Yeah quite the bombshell there...Trump caught flirting with the commies.
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 10:40:48 GMT -5
Turns out Trump was right that Obama's administration was spying on him and his team. This is going to be big. Stay tuned. Foxnews reporting Trumps name might have been picked up during legal surveillance of "foreign targets" Yeah quite the bombshell there...Trump caught flirting with the commies. He and his team were under surveillance. It wasn't "wiretapping", but they were being monitored(which was obvious from all the leaks anyway).
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Post by mell on Mar 24, 2017 11:48:54 GMT -5
Foxnews reporting Trumps name might have been picked up during legal surveillance of "foreign targets" Yeah quite the bombshell there...Trump caught flirting with the commies. He and his team were under surveillance. It wasn't "wiretapping", but they were being monitored(which was obvious from all the leaks anyway). According to Fox, he was not targeted, he only became 'unmasked' during legal surveillance of foreigners
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Post by mell on Mar 24, 2017 11:49:45 GMT -5
He and his team were under surveillance. It wasn't "wiretapping", but they were being monitored(which was obvious from all the leaks anyway). According to Fox, he was not targeted, he only became 'unmasked' during legal surveillance of foreigners Which Trump is trying to spin as "see? I was right!"
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 12:02:33 GMT -5
He and his team were under surveillance. It wasn't "wiretapping", but they were being monitored(which was obvious from all the leaks anyway). According to Fox, he was not targeted, he only became 'unmasked' during legal surveillance of foreigners We knew they were under surveillance from the Michael Flynn debacle. The media even reported it as such. The NYT(!) even said there were wiretaps in place. Now that that info has become damaging to Obama's administration they are backtracking. The "unmasking" is troubling as well. Placing your opposition under surveillance is a little unsettling in a Democracy. Feels like Germany.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 24, 2017 12:07:10 GMT -5
Foxnews reporting Trumps name might have been picked up during legal surveillance of "foreign targets" Yeah quite the bombshell there...Trump caught flirting with the commies. He and his team were under surveillance. It wasn't "wiretapping", but they were being monitored(which was obvious from all the leaks anyway). That renews my faith in American Counter Intelligence. Trump was in cahoots with Russia to rig the US presidential elections. Stands to reason that someone wasn't doing their job if Trump didn't find himself the target of surveillance...
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Post by mell on Mar 24, 2017 12:26:57 GMT -5
According to Fox, he was not targeted, he only became 'unmasked' during legal surveillance of foreigners We knew they were under surveillance from the Michael Flynn debacle. The media even reported it as such. The NYT(!) even said there were wiretaps in place. Now that that info has become damaging to Obama's administration they are backtracking. The "unmasking" is troubling as well. Placing your opposition under surveillance is a little unsettling in a Democracy. Feels like Germany. They didn't place anyone under surveillance. They were surveilling foreign threats and then they 'unmasked' Trump's name and spread his info around the intel community. And I don't know where you're getting the wiretapping stuff. Even Nunes flatly stated there was no wiretapping. What are you reading? Infowars? Prison Planet?
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 12:29:41 GMT -5
He and his team were under surveillance. It wasn't "wiretapping", but they were being monitored(which was obvious from all the leaks anyway). That renews my faith in American Counter Intelligence. Trump was in cahoots with Russia to rig the US presidential elections. Stands to reason that someone wasn't doing their job if Trump didn't find himself the target of surveillance... Except nobody is alleging what you saying above. They've been investigating this for 8 months and they have NOTHING. You just make up your own facts.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 24, 2017 12:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 12:34:34 GMT -5
We knew they were under surveillance from the Michael Flynn debacle. The media even reported it as such. The NYT(!) even said there were wiretaps in place. Now that that info has become damaging to Obama's administration they are backtracking. The "unmasking" is troubling as well. Placing your opposition under surveillance is a little unsettling in a Democracy. Feels like Germany. They didn't place anyone under surveillance. They were surveilling foreign threats and then they 'unmasked' Trump's name and spread his info around the intel community. And I don't know where you're getting the wiretapping stuff. Even Nunes flatly stated there was no wiretapping. What are you reading? Infowars? Prison Planet? I already told you I got it from the NYT:
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 12:37:07 GMT -5
Except nobody has said he was "in cahoots with Russia to rig the election". Those are your words. Intelligence merely said that Russia hacked the DNC. Read betterer.
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Post by mell on Mar 24, 2017 12:40:01 GMT -5
They didn't place anyone under surveillance. They were surveilling foreign threats and then they 'unmasked' Trump's name and spread his info around the intel community. And I don't know where you're getting the wiretapping stuff. Even Nunes flatly stated there was no wiretapping. What are you reading? Infowars? Prison Planet? I already told you I got it from the NYT: Is that from 2 months ago? Nunes said this week, and I quote: "There was no wiretapping of Trump Tower -- that didn't happen." www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/24/nunes-says-information-from-trump-surveillance-concerned-me.html
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Post by OXlodge on Mar 24, 2017 12:42:38 GMT -5
Except nobody has said he was "in cahoots with Russia to rig the election". Those are your words. Intelligence merely said that Russia hacked the DNC. Read betterer. Comney already confirmed that the election and in certain states, there was no evidence of hacking by Russia. Don't you guys watch TV?
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 12:42:50 GMT -5
Right. Wiretapping involves phones. Trump's team was under surveillance...which monitors e-mails and other forms of communication. It's semantics, but his team was being monitored at Trump Tower.
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Post by OXlodge on Mar 24, 2017 12:43:37 GMT -5
The author of that article from The New York Times apologized a few days later.
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 12:45:13 GMT -5
Except nobody has said he was "in cahoots with Russia to rig the election". Those are your words. Intelligence merely said that Russia hacked the DNC. Read betterer. Comney already confirmed that the election and in certain states, there was no evidence of hacking by Russia. Don't you guys watch TV? Not a single vote was changed. Not a single voting machine was tampered with. I have not heard anyone quantify the effects of the DNC leaks in any way. Hillary just lost. She was terrible. But there HAS to be some kind of boogeyman involved. Lol.
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Post by OXlodge on Mar 24, 2017 12:48:44 GMT -5
We knew they were under surveillance from the Michael Flynn debacle. The media even reported it as such. The NYT(!) even said there were wiretaps in place. Now that that info has become damaging to Obama's administration they are backtracking. The "unmasking" is troubling as well. Placing your opposition under surveillance is a little unsettling in a Democracy. Feels like Germany. They didn't place anyone under surveillance. They were surveilling foreign threats and then they 'unmasked' Trump's name and spread his info around the intel community. And I don't know where you're getting the wiretapping stuff. Even Nunes flatly stated there was no wiretapping. What are you reading? Infowars? Prison Planet? I'm pretty sure he didn't get it from "Occupy Democrat".
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Post by Chappion on Mar 24, 2017 12:49:54 GMT -5
"Russia forced Hillary not to campaign in Michigan and Pennsylvania!"
Worst. Candidate. Ever.
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Post by OXlodge on Mar 24, 2017 12:53:36 GMT -5
"Russia forced Hillary not to campaign in Michigan and Pennsylvania!" Worst. Candidate. Ever. They rigged the election so Hillary could have 4 million more popular votes.
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Post by mell on Mar 24, 2017 13:34:03 GMT -5
Right. Wiretapping involves phones. Trump's team was under surveillance...which monitors e-mails and other forms of communication. It's semantics, but his team was being monitored at Trump Tower. Trump wasn't the target of surveillance - you're being misleading He interacted with the targets of surveillance (assuming Russians were the "foreigners" in question) The controversy Nunes alludes to is Trump being 'unmasked' instead of being kept confidential. The insinuation is that Obama had something to do with circulating what they found.
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Post by OXlodge on Mar 24, 2017 13:36:16 GMT -5
Right. Wiretapping involves phones. Trump's team was under surveillance...which monitors e-mails and other forms of communication. It's semantics, but his team was being monitored at Trump Tower. Trump wasn't the target of surveillance - you're being misleading He interacted with the targets of surveillance (assuming Russians were the "foreigners" in question) The controversy Nunes alludes to is Trump being 'unmasked' instead of being kept confidential. The insinuation is that Obama had something to do with circulating what they found. Can we stop using the word "wiretapping"??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 13:42:47 GMT -5
Right. Wiretapping involves phones. Trump's team was under surveillance...which monitors e-mails and other forms of communication. It's semantics, but his team was being monitored at Trump Tower. Trump wasn't the target of surveillance - you're being misleading He interacted with the targets of surveillance (assuming Russians were the "foreigners" in question) The controversy Nunes alludes to is Trump being 'unmasked' instead of being kept confidential. The insinuation is that Obama had something to do with circulating what they found. mell is very smart
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 24, 2017 13:43:48 GMT -5
"Russia forced Hillary not to campaign in Michigan and Pennsylvania!" Worst. Candidate. Ever. "I'm perfectly fine with our elections being tampered with by a foreign power, because the guy they put in office was who I voted for anyway"
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Post by OXlodge on Mar 24, 2017 13:44:10 GMT -5
Trump wasn't the target of surveillance - you're being misleading He interacted with the targets of surveillance (assuming Russians were the "foreigners" in question) The controversy Nunes alludes to is Trump being 'unmasked' instead of being kept confidential. The insinuation is that Obama had something to do with circulating what they found. mell is very smart Yeah, I don't think Chappee is understanding what Nunes has already admitted. And wiretapping sounds like so 1968 to me.
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Post by b1ake on Mar 24, 2017 13:46:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think Chappee is understanding what Nunes has already admitted. And wiretapping sounds like so 1968 to me. He understands, it's just being presented in a different light on those "more legit" news sites some of you like to frequent.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 24, 2017 13:46:41 GMT -5
Comney already confirmed that the election and in certain states, there was no evidence of hacking by Russia. Don't you guys watch TV? Not a single vote was changed. Not a single voting machine was tampered with. I have not heard anyone quantify the effects of the DNC leaks in any way. Hillary just lost. She was terrible. But there HAS to be some kind of boogeyman involved. Lol. So they did it for no reason? That's what you're going with?
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Post by OXlodge on Mar 24, 2017 13:47:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think Chappee is understanding what Nunes has already admitted. And wiretapping sounds like so 1968 to me. He understands, it's just being presented in a different light on those "more legit" news sites some of you like to frequent. LOL, I don't think he really does.
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Post by mell on Mar 24, 2017 13:53:10 GMT -5
Trump wasn't the target of surveillance - you're being misleading He interacted with the targets of surveillance (assuming Russians were the "foreigners" in question) The controversy Nunes alludes to is Trump being 'unmasked' instead of being kept confidential. The insinuation is that Obama had something to do with circulating what they found. Can we stop using the word "wiretapping"?? Yeah for real I remember the 70s
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