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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 18:05:07 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 18:08:33 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 18:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 19:04:27 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 19:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 19:19:16 GMT -5
Winners and losers from the Brock Osweiler tradeBrowns draft picks next 2 seasons 2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6 2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7
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Post by Zig on Mar 9, 2017 19:23:56 GMT -5
Winners and losers from the Brock Osweiler tradeBrowns draft picks next 2 seasons 2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6 2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7 jebus that's almost enough to pry Jimmy away from the Pats |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 19:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 20:00:10 GMT -5
Winners and losers from the Brock Osweiler tradeBrowns draft picks next 2 seasons 2017: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6 2018: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7 jebus that's almost enough to pry Jimmy away from the Pats Funny you say that Browns intend to make run at Jimmy GaroppoloMy thought the 2017 1 (12) & 2-2018 2's and a late pick from each of 2017 and 2018 |
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Post by Zig on Mar 9, 2017 20:09:27 GMT -5
lol I wont be happy no matter what we get for him better brace myself I guess |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 20:10:24 GMT -5
Rapoport told NFL Network. "I've talked to several teams that were in the quarterback mix. All, obviously, were considering or are considering going after Jimmy Garoppolo. To a T, every team has said, 'We believe the Browns are going to make a huge run and we don't think we can compete with that.' So it certainly seems like the Browns are up front in a potential Garoppolo derby." |
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Post by Zig on Mar 9, 2017 20:25:27 GMT -5
Rapoport told NFL Network. "I've talked to several teams that were in the quarterback mix. All, obviously, were considering or are considering going after Jimmy Garoppolo. To a T, every team has said, 'We believe the Browns are going to make a huge run and we don't think we can compete with that.' So it certainly seems like the Browns are up front in a potential Garoppolo derby." Yeah I just read that. I also noticed when I comment on NFL.com it has a link to this place next to my name so I'm gonna start posting there ha ha just posted this Bill's track record with QBs is not good going back to his Cleveland days. He totally lucked in to Brady. Jimmy looks like he can play, I'd keep him no matter what the Browns offer. Love me some Brady but he doesnt have much longer and Brissette doesn't seem close to being ready or able. Add in whoever Bill takes with the picks, if they even pan out, they will just be traded or low balled and leave in 4 years anyway. Jimmy could be the guy for 10 years or so. Keep him! |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 20:40:22 GMT -5
Rapoport told NFL Network. "I've talked to several teams that were in the quarterback mix. All, obviously, were considering or are considering going after Jimmy Garoppolo. To a T, every team has said, 'We believe the Browns are going to make a huge run and we don't think we can compete with that.' So it certainly seems like the Browns are up front in a potential Garoppolo derby." Yeah I just read that. I also noticed when I comment on NFL.com it has a link to this place next to my name so I'm gonna start posting there ha ha just posted this Bill's track record with QBs is not good going back to his Cleveland days. He totally lucked in to Brady. Jimmy looks like he can play, I'd keep him no matter what the Browns offer. Love me some Brady but he doesnt have much longer and Brissette doesn't seem close to being ready or able. Add in whoever Bill takes with the picks, if they even pan out, they will just be traded or low balled and leave in 4 years anyway. Jimmy could be the guy for 10 years or so. Keep him! Personally if I was running the Patriots I'd have a hard time trading Jimmy I loved him coming out of college and figured he should be a 1st rounder. His release and footwork made me think he'd be a starter before his second season, alas he went to the Pats and I thought FUCK I don't want to see the Patriots have another franchise QB back to back I want them to wallow in the pre-Bledsoe days where they sucked so bad even just for a few years. Now with this offer I get to see if I was right about Jimmy but with all the draft capital the Pats would pick up they could stay atop the East for a few more seasons |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 9, 2017 23:08:39 GMT -5
I don't buy into the Garapollo hype. I had watched Andy Reid make multiple nobody QBs look good, trade them off for serious draft capital, and then watched those same QBs disappear back to the nobodies they really were. Then Chip Kelly got that statistical anomaly of a year out of Nick Foles. These are just examples from one team. Hell, look at RGIII - he played like a stud for a full year before teams figured him out. Garapollo has played all of two, arguably three games. Teams didnt have enough tape on him to adjust and test his weaknesses. No one knows how he will respond to that. And Belichick is simply one hell of a coach. And McDaniels is one hell of an Offensive Coordinator. It's really impossible to separate what the Patriots were able to get out of Jimmy, and what any other team would actually get out of him over a full 16 game season. Oh sure they all can be ripped apart by a DC given enough film, that's a given it's the want to become better and the mental make up to make weaknesses strengths that separates the good from the great |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 10, 2017 4:23:07 GMT -5
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 9:21:16 GMT -5
3/30 for logan ryan.
Everyone wants corners.
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Post by mrpickles on Mar 10, 2017 9:24:43 GMT -5
3/30 for logan ryan. Everyone wants corners. Yup I told one of my friends yesterday. With the money these corners are getting. I actually might prefer the eagles to draft one now. the cost is insane but for Jim Schwartz system they are an absolute necessity |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 10, 2017 10:44:11 GMT -5
he'll be off the team soon 1st 4 games of the season for sure well, history shows they usually cut players who have off-the-field issues, including this. but apparently they re-structured his deal so he'll stay. two other notes that I'm not happy about: the HUGE over-pay of Nick Perry. that deal is ridiculous for a player who had a good half of a season and has been injury prone his entire career. the Packers need to lock up Jared Cook. that the talks have broken off and he's now going to visit other teams is horrible. they already let JC Tretter go, Micah Hyde left and TJ Lang is talking with the Seahawks and very high on their priority list. |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 10, 2017 11:05:45 GMT -5
I don't buy into the Garapollo hype. I had watched Andy Reid make multiple nobody QBs look good, trade them off for serious draft capital, and then watched those same QBs disappear back to the nobodies they really were. Then Chip Kelly got that statistical anomaly of a year out of Nick Foles. These are just examples from one team. Hell, look at RGIII - he played like a stud for a full year before teams figured him out. Garapollo has played all of two, arguably three games. Teams didnt have enough tape on him to adjust and test his weaknesses. No one knows how he will respond to that. And Belichick is simply one hell of a coach. And McDaniels is one hell of an Offensive Coordinator. It's really impossible to separate what the Patriots were able to get out of Jimmy, and what any other team would actually get out of him over a full 16 game season. Oh sure they all can be ripped apart by a DC given enough film, that's a given it's the want to become better and the mental make up to make weaknesses strengths that separates the good from the great but for developmental purposes, it wouldn't serve him any good to go to the Browns. their coaching staff isn't even in the same galaxy as Belichick and McDaniels. they still coach Tom Brady like he's a rookie each week. personally, I think whoever New England uses at quarterback once Tom Brady retires (as long as Belichick & McDaniels are still there) will succeed in that system and coaching. but I see Belichick and Brady calling it quits at the same time. |
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Post by dyhard on Mar 10, 2017 11:08:09 GMT -5
saw this on Twitter:
Redskins are the first team in #NFL history to lose both their 1,000-yard receiving WRs in one offseason. Jackson to Bucs, Garcon to #49ers
besides not wanting to pay Kirk Cousins what he wants, I'm not surprised he wants out. who does he have now besides his TEs?
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 10, 2017 11:13:29 GMT -5
Ha ha! Warford wasn't bad, but it appears that Bob Quinn has bolder ideas. I can't tell you that what he's doing will work for sure, but there appears to be a philosophy and a plan. That has been missing forever around here. He appreciates the value of a really potent o-line. Signing Ricky Wagner gives them one of the top RTs in the league. If he can get T.J. Lang on board, they have the makings of one of the top lines in the NFL. |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 10, 2017 11:15:43 GMT -5
Incredibly stupid move. Him and Snyder have no hope as a leadership team. |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 10, 2017 11:18:51 GMT -5
holy hell Adam Schefter 8 mins · Facebook Mentions · NFL stunner: Texans trade QB Brock Osweiler AND a 2018 second-round pick to Cleveland for the Browns to take Osweiler’s $16M salary of Houston’s books, per league sources. The move clears out millions in salary-cap space for Houston to intensify efforts to sign former Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo, per sources. To be exact, Houston saves $16 million in cash and $10 million against their cap this season. The Texans also will get the Browns’ fourth-round pick this year in exchange for their own 6th-round pick. So Cleveland gets Osweiler’s contract, a 2018 second-round pick and a 2017 sixth-round pick, and Houston gets Cleveland’s 2017 fourth-round pick, saves $10 million in salary-cap space and $16 million in cash. Cleveland is not committed to keeping Osweiler and is likely to try to trade him, per sources. If so, it would turn into a basketball-like trade in which NBA teams routinely trade contracts to get them off their books; only it rarely, if ever, happens in the NFL. It’s hard to remember in the salary-cap era another team when a team traded a contract to get it off its books. But Houston was so anxious to rid itself of Osweiler and move on to its next quarterbacking chapter that it is giving Cleveland extra picks to take him and his contract. The Browns headed into this free-agent signing period with over $100 million worth of salary-cap space and would struggle to spend it all. Now they can devote some of it to Osweiler’s contract and acquiring extra draft picks from Houston. But this is one of the most, if not the most, creative trade in NFL history. I don't know...it sure is a "roundabout" way to improve... |
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Post by Zig on Mar 10, 2017 13:11:32 GMT -5
holy hell Adam Schefter 8 mins · Facebook Mentions · NFL stunner: Texans trade QB Brock Osweiler AND a 2018 second-round pick to Cleveland for the Browns to take Osweiler’s $16M salary of Houston’s books, per league sources. The move clears out millions in salary-cap space for Houston to intensify efforts to sign former Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo, per sources. To be exact, Houston saves $16 million in cash and $10 million against their cap this season. The Texans also will get the Browns’ fourth-round pick this year in exchange for their own 6th-round pick. So Cleveland gets Osweiler’s contract, a 2018 second-round pick and a 2017 sixth-round pick, and Houston gets Cleveland’s 2017 fourth-round pick, saves $10 million in salary-cap space and $16 million in cash. Cleveland is not committed to keeping Osweiler and is likely to try to trade him, per sources. If so, it would turn into a basketball-like trade in which NBA teams routinely trade contracts to get them off their books; only it rarely, if ever, happens in the NFL. It’s hard to remember in the salary-cap era another team when a team traded a contract to get it off its books. But Houston was so anxious to rid itself of Osweiler and move on to its next quarterbacking chapter that it is giving Cleveland extra picks to take him and his contract. The Browns headed into this free-agent signing period with over $100 million worth of salary-cap space and would struggle to spend it all. Now they can devote some of it to Osweiler’s contract and acquiring extra draft picks from Houston. But this is one of the most, if not the most, creative trade in NFL history. I don't know...it sure is a "roundabout" way to improve... they must read reddit sportschatter.co/thread/2455/browns-read-reddit |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 13:28:47 GMT -5
julius peppers back to the panthers for a 16th season.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 10, 2017 15:16:51 GMT -5
saw this on Twitter: Redskins are the first team in #NFL history to lose both their 1,000-yard receiving WRs in one offseason. Jackson to Bucs, Garcon to #49ers besides not wanting to pay Kirk Cousins what he wants, I'm not surprised he wants out. who does he have now besides his TEs? Crowder their 2016 1st Dotson |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 10, 2017 16:59:45 GMT -5
Jabaal Sheard to the Colts
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Post by Chappion on Mar 10, 2017 17:27:04 GMT -5
Jabaal Sheard to the Colts Huh. Not an impossible guy to replace by any means, but he was damn good. |
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 17:49:41 GMT -5
I am having a tough time finding every detail on this contract but the contract I hate so far is the Calais Campbell contract.
I would never give him 50% guaranteed on a $60 million contract. You better hope he puts up for at least 3 of the years, there is no getting out of that contract without really hurting your cap.
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Post by jets12 on Mar 10, 2017 17:53:33 GMT -5
Gilmore is getting an even better percentage at $40 million guaranteed out of the $65 million but he is that fucking good.
A corner usually lives up to it......I feel more times than not, when a corner doesn't live up to the hype of a FA contract; coaching or injury is the reason.
IMO Devin McCourty is the most underrated defensive player in the NFL.
If the Patriots keep Butler, the options for BB are endless.
If the Patriots don't keep Butler, they have improved their #1 corner and still have McCourty to protect any weak spots in the secondary.
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