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Post by Zig on Dec 7, 2016 6:37:54 GMT -5
RED SOX ACQUIRE CHRIS SALE NATIONAL HARBOR, Md. -- The Red Sox -- who came away with the top starting pitcher (David Price) and top reliever (Craig Kimbrel) last offseason -- have done it again. Early Tuesday afternoon, the Red Sox acquired White Sox ace left-hander Chris Sale for four prospects: Infielder Yoan Moncada, pitchers Michael Kopech and Victor Diaz, and outfielder Luis Basabe). The news was first reported by Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal. Sale, who will turn 28 in March, is regarded, with Price, as one of the best lefties in the American League and gives the Red Sox a dominant top-of-the-rotation trio (Sale, Price and Cy Young Award winner Rick Porcello). He was 17-10 last year with a 3.34 ERA, the second 17-victory season of his career. In his career he is 74-50 in 248 games (148 starts) with a 3.00 ERA. He is signed to a team-friendly contract that will cost the Red Sox just $38 million over the next three years. The White Sox' disappointing 2016 season -- 78-84, fourth place in the A.L. Central -- led to a decision by management to rebuild, with Sale being dangled as the chip that could fetch the most prospects. Over the last few weeks it was reported that the Red Sox, Nationals, Astros, Rangers and Braves were Sale's biggest pursuers, with Washington regarded as the front-runner as recently as Monday. But the high ceilings of Moncada and Kopech intrigued Chicago, and the White Sox decided to go in Boston's direction on Tuesday. The Red Sox now have seven potential veteran starting pitchers -- Sale, Price, Porcello, Drew Pomeranz, Eduardo Rodriguez, Steven Wright and Clay Buchholz -- on their roster, four of whom are left-handed. www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/report-boston-red-sox-acquire-chris-sale-from-chicago-white-soxRed Soz |
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Post by Zig on Dec 7, 2016 6:39:24 GMT -5
RED SOX SIGN MITCH MORELAND FOR ONE YEAR NATIONAL HARBOR, Md. -- Having spent the early part of Tuesday addressing their bullpen and starting rotation, the Red Sox turned their attention to their offense later on and reached agreement with first baseman Mitch Moreland on a one-year, $5.5 million deal. Moreland will likely play first base against most righthanders, with Hanley Ramirez shifting to the DH spot. Regarded as a superb defender at first -- he won the Gold Glove for first basemen in the American League last month -- Moreland can also expect to see some time in the DH slot. Moreland gives the Sox some power from the left side in a lineup that, in the wake of David Ortiz's retirement, leaned heavily to the right side. Last year, Moreland had a slash line of .233/.298/.422 in what was something of a down year for him with Texas. Against righthanders, he slugged just .407, but that something of a career aberration, since, over the course of six major league seasons, he's slugged .457. Moreland hit 22 homers, one shy of his career high (23 in both 2015 and 2013. The $5.5 million is a relatively modest salary for the Sox, who chose not to pursue two other bats who signed one-year deals -- Carlos Beltran for $16 million with Houston and Matt Holliday for $13 million with the Yankees -- because of payroll limits and concern about exceeding the competitive balance tax (CBT) of $195 million. In theory, the Sox can use Moreland as a one-year placeholder at first before going with Sam Travis in 2018. Travis missed nearly all of last year with a knee injury and could use more development time at first base. Unlike most seasons since 2003, when the Red Sox could happily pencil David Ortiz in as their primary DH, the Sox don't intend to have a single DH for 2017. Instead, following an industry trend, the club intends to use the spot as an opportunity through which it can rotate a number of players. It's expected that both Dustin Pedroia and Pablo Sandoval will each get some at-bats as the DH, thus preserving them a bit over the course of the long season. Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports.com was the first to report the agreement in principle. Jon Paul Morosi of the MLB Network was the first with contract terms. www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/red-sox-sign-mitch-moreland-one-year |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Feb 13, 2017 14:05:17 GMT -5
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 13, 2017 14:10:07 GMT -5
Is that Swihart and Betts?
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 14:29:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 14:37:28 GMT -5
big test for mookie without Ortiz's protection this year. pedro still thinks Ortiz gets the itch and wont resist it. |
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Post by OXlodge on Feb 13, 2017 14:38:15 GMT -5
big test for mookie without Ortiz's protection this year. pedro still thinks Ortiz gets the itch and wont resist it. Mookie don't need no protection. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 14:39:31 GMT -5
big test for mookie without Ortiz's protection this year. pedro still thinks Ortiz gets the itch and wont resist it. Wouldn't shock anyone to see Papi surface in June and play the rest of the year. He was too good last year to walk away. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Feb 13, 2017 14:40:32 GMT -5
Is that Swihart and Betts? I believe it's Mookie and Deven Marrero |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 14:42:21 GMT -5
big test for mookie without Ortiz's protection this year. pedro still thinks Ortiz gets the itch and wont resist it. Mookie don't need no protection. he wont do what he did last year. .300 avg, 25HR or so and around 85-90 RBI. if he does repeat it, hes the next coming of willie mays. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 14:44:27 GMT -5
Mookie don't need no protection. he wont do what he did last year. .300 avg, 25HR or so and around 85-90 RBI. if he does repeat it, hes the next coming of willie mays. Sky's the limit on Mookie. All he's done is get better(and he's only 24). We probably haven't seen his ceiling yet. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 13, 2017 16:29:12 GMT -5
so does today mean the tom brady hurt is over, and we can all post again? now we just need dirt to sack up, bigD to get home internet access and filo to get bored again. Things should pick up shortly, with baseball almost back. I'm kinda concerned that Soxprospects.com has Devers projected to start in AAA. I'm about 95% convinced that he needs a bunch of time in AA first. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 16:40:40 GMT -5
so does today mean the tom brady hurt is over, and we can all post again? now we just need dirt to sack up, bigD to get home internet access and filo to get bored again. Things should pick up shortly, with baseball almost back. I'm kinda concerned that Soxprospects.com has Devers projected to start in AAA. I'm about 95% convinced that he needs a bunch of time in AA first. If Panda isn't able to do the job, we might see Devers in Fenway by July. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 13, 2017 16:46:40 GMT -5
Things should pick up shortly, with baseball almost back. I'm kinda concerned that Soxprospects.com has Devers projected to start in AAA. I'm about 95% convinced that he needs a bunch of time in AA first. If Panda isn't able to do the job, we might see Devers in Fenway by July. God help us if it comes to that. They rushed Moncada last year, and it was bad news. Devers has a huge stick, but he had a .330ish OBP in high A. That's not a guy that's screaming to take an MLB job. No major holes in his swing that I'm aware of, and his power is seriously legit. He needs to age in the high minors, preferably at AA. It's WAY too fucking soon to be penciling him in at AAA for the start of 2017, let alone MLB, IMO. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Feb 13, 2017 16:50:09 GMT -5
If Panda isn't able to do the job, we might see Devers in Fenway by July. God help us if it comes to that. They rushed Moncada last year, and it was bad news. Devers has a huge stick, but he had a .330ish OBP in high A. That's not a guy that's screaming to take an MLB job. No major holes in his swing that I'm aware of, and his power is seriously legit. He needs to age in the high minors, preferably at AA. It's WAY too fucking soon to be penciling him in at AAA for the start of 2017, let alone MLB, IMO. Agreed. He's only 20. Unless he is absolutely killing it at AA or AAA, I'd prefer not to see him until sometime in 2018/19. Holt will do in the meantime after Panda gets fat again. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 13, 2017 16:55:35 GMT -5
God help us if it comes to that. They rushed Moncada last year, and it was bad news. Devers has a huge stick, but he had a .330ish OBP in high A. That's not a guy that's screaming to take an MLB job. No major holes in his swing that I'm aware of, and his power is seriously legit. He needs to age in the high minors, preferably at AA. It's WAY too fucking soon to be penciling him in at AAA for the start of 2017, let alone MLB, IMO. Agreed. He's only 20. Unless he is absolutely killing it at AA or AAA, I'd prefer not to see him until sometime in 2018/19. Holt will do in the meantime after Panda gets fat again. Word. I think the depth chart behind Panda there goes Holt, Rutledge, Marco Hernendez, maybe even Jantzen White. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 16:57:58 GMT -5
If Panda isn't able to do the job, we might see Devers in Fenway by July. God help us if it comes to that. They rushed Moncada last year, and it was bad news. Devers has a huge stick, but he had a .330ish OBP in high A. That's not a guy that's screaming to take an MLB job. No major holes in his swing that I'm aware of, and his power is seriously legit. He needs to age in the high minors, preferably at AA. It's WAY too fucking soon to be penciling him in at AAA for the start of 2017, let alone MLB, IMO. I agree 100%, but the Sox don't have a lot of depth there after Panda and Holt. Holt is more of a role guy anyway. I don't want to rush Devers, but he could also force the issue with a hot start. This is why I thought they were too quick to move Shaw. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 13, 2017 17:03:09 GMT -5
God help us if it comes to that. They rushed Moncada last year, and it was bad news. Devers has a huge stick, but he had a .330ish OBP in high A. That's not a guy that's screaming to take an MLB job. No major holes in his swing that I'm aware of, and his power is seriously legit. He needs to age in the high minors, preferably at AA. It's WAY too fucking soon to be penciling him in at AAA for the start of 2017, let alone MLB, IMO. I agree 100%, but the Sox don't have a lot of depth there after Panda and Holt. Holt is more of a role guy anyway. I don't want to rush Devers, but he could also force the issue with a hot start. This is why I thought they were too quick to move Shaw. That's fair. I'd like to see Holt stay in the reserve role also. FWIW, I think that they moved Shaw in order to sell high. He has a big hole in his swing that he seemed thoroughly disinclined to bother to fix. My guess is that he soured them on him as a result of that. Shame really, because that's a similar problem to what Papi had when he was hastened out of Minnesota. He fixed that here. C'est la vie, I guess. Not a lot of good depth behind Panda, certainly, but a few guys who can field the position and provide replacement value with the bat. Obviously Panda hitting at all would be a big upgrade over that. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Feb 13, 2017 17:05:05 GMT -5
Agreed. He's only 20. Unless he is absolutely killing it at AA or AAA, I'd prefer not to see him until sometime in 2018/19. Holt will do in the meantime after Panda gets fat again. Word. I think the depth chart behind Panda there goes Holt, Rutledge, Marco Hernendez, maybe even Jantzen White. soxprospects says Matt Dominguez is also in the mix after Holt and Rutledge. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 13, 2017 17:08:15 GMT -5
Word. I think the depth chart behind Panda there goes Holt, Rutledge, Marco Hernendez, maybe even Jantzen White. soxprospects says Matt Dominguez is also in the mix after Holt and Rutledge. Possible, but I know that Farrell loves Hernandez for some reason. And White is like 27, so prob a good reason to give him a shot. Just googled Dominguez, and he's 27 also. So just as likely he gets a shot as White.... |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 17:13:43 GMT -5
I agree 100%, but the Sox don't have a lot of depth there after Panda and Holt. Holt is more of a role guy anyway. I don't want to rush Devers, but he could also force the issue with a hot start. This is why I thought they were too quick to move Shaw. That's fair. I'd like to see Holt stay in the reserve role also. FWIW, I think that they moved Shaw in order to sell high. He has a big hole in his swing that he seemed thoroughly disinclined to bother to fix. My guess is that he soured them on him as a result of that. Shame really, because that's a similar problem to what Papi had when he was hastened out of Minnesota. He fixed that here. C'est la vie, I guess. Not a lot of good depth behind Panda, certainly, but a few guys who can field the position and provide replacement value with the bat. Obviously Panda hitting at all would be a big upgrade over that. Yeah, you are right about Shaw. I wasn't in love with him, but he was certainly capable. They moved Shaw and Moncada over the Winter and really put all the 3b eggs in the Sandoval basket. We'll see if he can get back to being a contributor again. It's hard to be overly optimistic there. |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 13, 2017 17:16:22 GMT -5
That's fair. I'd like to see Holt stay in the reserve role also. FWIW, I think that they moved Shaw in order to sell high. He has a big hole in his swing that he seemed thoroughly disinclined to bother to fix. My guess is that he soured them on him as a result of that. Shame really, because that's a similar problem to what Papi had when he was hastened out of Minnesota. He fixed that here. C'est la vie, I guess. Not a lot of good depth behind Panda, certainly, but a few guys who can field the position and provide replacement value with the bat. Obviously Panda hitting at all would be a big upgrade over that. Yeah, you are right about Shaw. I wasn't in love with him, but he was certainly capable. They moved Shaw and Moncada over the Winter and really put all the 3b eggs in the Sandoval basket. We'll see if he can get back to being a contributor again. It's hard to be overly optimistic there. I never thought that they would get anything out of Lackey either. Seemed like he couldn't pitch here and was a clubhouse problem, part of the Chicken and Beer cartel. Turns out he was injured and came back strong. I'm hopeful that they have some insight into Panda that we don't have. If not, they deal with a replacement-level bat at one position and hope to God that they get enough out of the other 8 that it's not a problem. |
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Post by Scalious on Feb 13, 2017 17:31:55 GMT -5
Devers was one of the youngest players in all of High A last year and will be in AA this year. He struggled in the first half but got red hot. I suspect the same will happen in AA this year and if he gets any taste of the majors it won't be pretty.
2018 is when you want him to get used to the majors...but I doubt you'll be signing his praises at fenway before 2019.
Sky is limit for that kids bat though. The pure hit and power tools are special
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Feb 13, 2017 17:36:51 GMT -5
That's fair. I'd like to see Holt stay in the reserve role also. FWIW, I think that they moved Shaw in order to sell high. He has a big hole in his swing that he seemed thoroughly disinclined to bother to fix. My guess is that he soured them on him as a result of that. Shame really, because that's a similar problem to what Papi had when he was hastened out of Minnesota. He fixed that here. C'est la vie, I guess. Not a lot of good depth behind Panda, certainly, but a few guys who can field the position and provide replacement value with the bat. Obviously Panda hitting at all would be a big upgrade over that. Yeah, you are right about Shaw. I wasn't in love with him, but he was certainly capable. They moved Shaw and Moncada over the Winter and really put all the 3b eggs in the Sandoval basket. We'll see if he can get back to being a contributor again. It's hard to be overly optimistic there. That is r-e-a-l scary. For one, that's a mighty big basket. I remember when the Tigers signed Prince Fielder and moved Cabrera to the hot corner. Miggy was no gazelle, but he handled 3B better than I expected, but only adequately. Mobility was an issue, but comparing Miggy to Pablo is like comparing a cat that is a little heavy to a bitch expecting pups any day... But I agree about Shaw having a hole in his swing. Some are able to adjust. Most never do. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 17:51:08 GMT -5
Yeah, you are right about Shaw. I wasn't in love with him, but he was certainly capable. They moved Shaw and Moncada over the Winter and really put all the 3b eggs in the Sandoval basket. We'll see if he can get back to being a contributor again. It's hard to be overly optimistic there. That is r-e-a-l scary. For one, that's a mighty big basket. I remember when the Tigers signed Prince Fielder and moved Cabrera to the hot corner. Miggy was no gazelle, but he handled 3B better than I expected, but only adequately. Mobility was an issue, but comparing Miggy to Pablo is like comparing a cat that is a little heavy to a bitch expecting pups any day... But I agree about Shaw having a hole in his swing. Some are able to adjust. Most never do. Well, they say Sandoval lost about 45lbs from last year. He certainly LOOKED better, but I am wondering if he can still play. He was absolutely hopeless against LHP and I was wondering what happened to that great hitter that used to play in SF. I thought he was going to be a terror in Fenway. Ooops! |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Feb 13, 2017 17:55:17 GMT -5
That is r-e-a-l scary. For one, that's a mighty big basket. I remember when the Tigers signed Prince Fielder and moved Cabrera to the hot corner. Miggy was no gazelle, but he handled 3B better than I expected, but only adequately. Mobility was an issue, but comparing Miggy to Pablo is like comparing a cat that is a little heavy to a bitch expecting pups any day... But I agree about Shaw having a hole in his swing. Some are able to adjust. Most never do. Well, they say Sandoval lost about 45lbs from last year. He certainly LOOKED better, but I am wondering if he can still play. He was absolutely hopeless against LHP and I was wondering what happened to that great hitter that used to play in SF. I thought he was going to be a terror in Fenway. Ooops! Well, I didn't know that. 45 lbs is a lot. If the guy stays serious, maybe it works out. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 13, 2017 18:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by Smuck on Feb 13, 2017 20:16:40 GMT -5
Devers was one of the youngest players in all of High A last year and will be in AA this year. He struggled in the first half but got red hot. I suspect the same will happen in AA this year and if he gets any taste of the majors it won't be pretty. 2018 is when you want him to get used to the majors...but I doubt you'll be signing his praises at fenway before 2019. Sky is limit for that kids bat though. The pure hit and power tools are special Word |
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