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1. Tennessee Titans
primary needs OT, CB, S
Pick Laremy Tunsil OT Mississippi
Reasons
Although they would love to trade down, Goff and Wentz aren't must have can't miss prospects Mariota was on his back more than a Kardashian last season so they pencil Tunsil in at LT move Lewan from LT to RT and move Jeremiah Poutasi to LG from RT improving 3 positions with one pick and making Demarcos comeback after a year in the wilderness of the Kelly regime in Philly more palatable. Titans GM and HC at Ole Miss pro day and although Tunsil isn't a sexy pick he is the best tackle to come out in at least 5 seasons
2. Cleveland Browns
primary needs QB, WR, OL
Pick Carson Wentz QB North Dakota State
Reasons
Even after picking up RG3 the Browns need a QB of the future. Wentz although playing at a small school ran a pro style offense and shone at the Senior Bowl and had a great combine as well. This kid has never had less than an A grade in school EVER. Character issues will not be a problem here. I could see Jack here if they choose to go with a second tier project QB
3. San Diego Chargers
primary needs S, OL, DL
Pick Jalen Ramsey S Florida State
Reasons
Bosa is not really a fit in a 3-4 as either a DE or OLB and Jack is more of a 4-3 OLB so they take a Mathieu type player at number 3 Safeties and guards use to NEVER go in the 1st round Buckner would be a good fit here
4. Dallas Cowboys
primary needs CB, RB, Backup QB
Pick Ezekiel Elliot RB Ohio State
Reason
my 1st off the boards pick but one that fits the Cowboys win now attitude. With all the DT depth I expect they will visit that spot day 2. If they pass on Elliot pencil in Jack here unless the I ain't taking a QB was a smokescreen. Cowboys have had or are having every top QB in for private workouts
5. Jacksonville Jaguars
primary needs DE, OL, LB
Pick Myles Jack OLB UCLA
Reason
Hargreaves doesn't fit the Seattle CB style (long and lean) so they take the Swiss Army Knife style OLB in Jack. Other possibilities Stanley or Buckner
6. Baltimore Ravens
primary needs DE, CB, OLB
Pick Vernon Hargreaves CB Florida
Reason
Bosa not a fit for this D could see Buckner go here but with AJ Green Antonio Brown and probably Josh Gordon a lockdown cover corner would be the best choice. Other possibilities Buckner or Stanley
7. San Francisco 49ers
primary needs QB, OL, WR
Pick Payton Lynch QB Memphis
Reason
Niners start the Kelly reboot with a surprise QB but really not. Far more adept at throwing on the run and accuracy is definitely not an issue. Played well against top teams. Could see Stanley go here but with Davis possibly coming back, will go with the QB
8. Philadelphia Eagles
primary needs OL S QB Edge rusher
Pick Ronnie Stanley OT Notre Dame
Reason
Peters is not the player he was time to tab his replacement
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
primary needs CB, OL, DE
Pick Deforest Buckner DT/DE
Reason
Best player on the board Gives McCoy a teammate that can make O-lines have problems
10 New York Giants
primary needs FS, WR, OT
Pick Laquon Treadwell WR Ole Miss
Reason
Treadwell a perfect compliment to Beckham a possesion type to team with the deep threat
11. Chicago Bears
primary needs OLB, OT, CB
Pick Joey Bosa DE Ohio State
Reason
Fangio needs more playmakers on D that fit his 3-4 hybrid
12. New Orleans Saints
primary needs DE, DT, OG Developmental QB
Pick Sheldon Rankins DT Louisville
Reason
Pretty sure the Dennis Allen Saints D will be a 4-3 They'll need to restock the D-line. Other
possibilities include A'Shawn Robinson or Andrew Billings
13. Miami Dolphins
primary needs CB, RB, DE
Pick Leonard Floyd OLB Georgia
Reason
Wake coming off Achilles injury at 34 Need I say more
14. Oakland Raiders
primary needs DB, ILB, RB
Pick A'Shawn Robinson DT/DE Alabama
Reason with Aldon Smith one stupid move away from another year off this would be the best choice if they stay I believe that they will want to move down cause the best fits to their team are at least 5-8 spaces down the boards
15. Los Angeles Rams
primary needs QB, WR, DB
Pick Jared Goff QB California
Reason
Case Keenum Nuff said. Goff starts by week 5
16. Detroit Lions
primary needs OT, DT, LB
Pick Jack Conklin OT Michigan State
Reason
Local player with a mean streak at a position of need. Long gone are the days when I used to type in their primary need was a 24 hour bail bondsman
17. Atlanta Falcons
primary needs DE, TE, S
Pick Noah Spence DE/OLB E Kentucky
Reason
Had Beasley's replacement at Clemson penciled in first but after reflection thought that they need an edge at DE and they get a hybrid type in Spence who'll fit Quinn's multi fronts well
18. Indianapolis Colts
Primary needs OL, OLB, DL
Pick Taylor Decker OT Ohio State
Reason
Grigson has to protect their investment in Luck and he hasn't been doing a good job at it so far
19. Buffalo Bills
Primary needs LB, OL, QB
Pick Jarran Reed, NT, Alabama
Reason
Run stuffing tackle as Ryan completes the makeover from a 4-3 to the 3-4 he prefers. This had better work as Schwarz had a top rated D there before Marrone opted out Could see Nkemdiche here as well Suggest he stays off the 3rd floor though
20. New York Jets
Primary needs OT, OLB, ILB QB
Pick Robert Nkemdiche, DT/DE Ole Miss
Reason
Bowles likes multidimensional players on his D. Nkemdiche has to show a better motor though in the NFL. If the Jets are still needing a QB at this point they may be forced to reach for Cook or Prescott here
21. Washington
Primary needs DT, C, CB
Pick Andrew Billings DT Baylor
Reason
Washington needs to D the run better. McCloughan will load up on the trenches throughout this draft
22. Houston Texans
Primary needs WR, DE, OL
Pick Emmanuel Ogbah DE, Oklahoma State
Reason
A 5 technique to play opposite Watt A WR like Coleman could be in play here
23. Minnesota Vikings
primary needs WR, OL, P
Pick Corey Coleman WR, Baylor
Reasons
The field stretching WO they hoped to get with Cordarelle Patterson
24. Cincinnati Bengals
primary needs WR, S, LB
Pick Reggie Ragland LB, Alabama
Reason
Physical LB an upgrade on Malaluga
25. Pittsburgh Steelers
primary needs CB, S, LB
Pick Eli Apple CB Ohio State
Reason great tackling CB could project to a #1 CB. Lee a possibility here too
26. Seattle Seahawks
primary need OL, DT, CB
Pick William Jackson III CB, Houston
Reason
Seattle's board always brings surprises Lane returns to the slot with this pick. OLK and DT will litter their day 2 and 3 picks
27. Green Bay Packers
primary needs ILB, RB, speed WR
Pick Darron Lee LB Ohio State
Reason Pack needs to get some playmakers in their D Great value pick up
28. Kansas City Chiefs
primary needs CB, WR, LB
Pick Mackensie Alexander CB, Clemson
Reason
Need a replacement for the departed Sean Smith
29. Arizona Cardinals
primary needs OLB, CB, developmental QB
Pick Shaq Lawson OLB, Clemson
Reason
Team with a fairly deep roster takes a player way up their board
30. Carolina Panthers
primary needs OT, WR, DE
Pick Germain Ifedi OG, Texas A&M
Reason as the boards are loaded with players at positions of strength here I could see a trade down here. Possibly the Jets if Fitz ain't signed As I won't have trades here I slide down the board a bit
31. Denver Broncos
primary needs QB, DL, LB
Pick Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State
Reason
He was going to go early second as a late riser and he fits Kubiak's bootleg offense to a tee. The gallery goes crazy as the Broncos shock the pundits. Mad Mel is left speechless
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 28, 2016 14:33:21 GMT -5
Mad Mel will have a knipshit at 7
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 30, 2016 14:38:49 GMT -5
Mad Mel will have a knipshit at 7 At 31 the paramedics will be administering oxygen |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 4, 2016 0:04:43 GMT -5
Kaep and the Broncos negotiating that oughta put a wrench into this mock. In the next one I will include a trade or 2
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Post by b1ake on Apr 6, 2016 11:25:35 GMT -5
I have no idea what the Cowboys should do at #4. Bosa is being touted as the safe pick and he plays a position of need for them, but he's not a pass rushing freak. Still, it's hard to find a guy that you think can start and be productive for the next ten years on your d-line.
If Ramsey falls to #4, I'm all in on him.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 7, 2016 2:08:52 GMT -5
Going to start a final mock next week with far bigger thumbnails on the players and their fit in that organization
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Post by dyhard on Apr 7, 2016 3:40:53 GMT -5
not bad, but with regards to the Packers, why is a primary need a RB? They have Lacy (who has lost weight & looks a lot better for this upcoming season), and they seemed to fix their WR problem with Nelson returning from injury & Jeff Janis who emerged in the playoffs (and everybody was looking for during regular season) who has a LOT of speed. Nelson was their deep, speed threat & Janis has emerged as another option.
their BIG needs are ILB & DT/NT. that's about it. then add some defensive depth & run-blocking OL since there was no holes created last year to run the ball.
I'm sure late in the draft if there's a RB or WR best available, they'll grab one (they always seem to grab those 2 positions) but early in draft, there's MUCH bigger needs & they aren't primary needs.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 7, 2016 9:53:30 GMT -5
not bad, but with regards to the Packers, why is a primary need a RB? They have Lacy (who has lost weight & looks a lot better for this upcoming season), and they seemed to fix their WR problem with Nelson returning from injury & Jeff Janis who emerged in the playoffs (and everybody was looking for during regular season) who has a LOT of speed. Nelson was their deep, speed threat & Janis has emerged as another option. their BIG needs are ILB & DT/NT. that's about it. then add some defensive depth & run-blocking OL since there was no holes created last year to run the ball. I'm sure late in the draft if there's a RB or WR best available, they'll grab one (they always seem to grab those 2 positions) but early in draft, there's MUCH bigger needs & they aren't primary needs. AS Raji hadn't taken a hiatus yet NT wasn't listed Janis had a great breakout game but so did Timmy Smith so until he proves it it is a potential issue |
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Post by dyhard on Apr 8, 2016 1:48:06 GMT -5
not bad, but with regards to the Packers, why is a primary need a RB? They have Lacy (who has lost weight & looks a lot better for this upcoming season), and they seemed to fix their WR problem with Nelson returning from injury & Jeff Janis who emerged in the playoffs (and everybody was looking for during regular season) who has a LOT of speed. Nelson was their deep, speed threat & Janis has emerged as another option. their BIG needs are ILB & DT/NT. that's about it. then add some defensive depth & run-blocking OL since there was no holes created last year to run the ball. I'm sure late in the draft if there's a RB or WR best available, they'll grab one (they always seem to grab those 2 positions) but early in draft, there's MUCH bigger needs & they aren't primary needs. AS Raji hadn't taken a hiatus yet NT wasn't listed Janis had a great breakout game but so did Timmy Smith so until he proves it it is a potential issue he never was given an opportunity. every time he got an opportunity, he showed what he could do. he played great in the last game of the season & the playoff game. those were 2 big games for GB. also, he posted the fastest 40 time of any WR on the roster. and they were missing Nelson, which hurt. they upgraded their TE so they have Cook & Rodgers there. then Nelson returning, have Adams, Jones, Nelson, Cobb & Janis with Abberderis there as well. the passing game is going to take off this year. |
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Post by Packersgal on Apr 8, 2016 10:41:26 GMT -5
The Packers also need a nose tackle to replace Raji. The names I'm reading about the most are:
A'Shawn Robinson DT/NT Alabama
Jarren Reed DT/NT Alabama
Andrew Billings DT/NT Baylor
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Apr 8, 2016 11:08:51 GMT -5
The Packers also need a nose tackle to replace Raji. The names I'm reading about the most are: A'Shawn Robinson DT/NT Alabama Jarren Reed DT/NT Alabama Andrew Billings DT/NT Baylor I think they could indeed boost the offense with some of the picks on that side of the line but your NT idea is solid. |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Apr 8, 2016 11:10:02 GMT -5
AS Raji hadn't taken a hiatus yet NT wasn't listed Janis had a great breakout game but so did Timmy Smith so until he proves it it is a potential issue he never was given an opportunity. every time he got an opportunity, he showed what he could do. he played great in the last game of the season & the playoff game. those were 2 big games for GB. also, he posted the fastest 40 time of any WR on the roster. and they were missing Nelson, which hurt. they upgraded their TE so they have Cook & Rodgers there. then Nelson returning, have Adams, Jones, Nelson, Cobb & Janis with Abberderis there as well. the passing game is going to take off this year. totally agree |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 12:44:07 GMT -5
AS Raji hadn't taken a hiatus yet NT wasn't listed Janis had a great breakout game but so did Timmy Smith so until he proves it it is a potential issue he never was given an opportunity. every time he got an opportunity, he showed what he could do. he played great in the last game of the season & the playoff game. those were 2 big games for GB. also, he posted the fastest 40 time of any WR on the roster. and they were missing Nelson, which hurt. they upgraded their TE so they have Cook & Rodgers there. then Nelson returning, have Adams, Jones, Nelson, Cobb & Janis with Abberderis there as well. the passing game is going to take off this year. True getting Nelson back is important as their O looked stagnant without him. Jones won't be back if I'm not mistaken and Adams didn't step up when he had the chance. Janis had a few great plays in the playoffs but so did Chris Matthews the season before and he's now a Raven. So the starters at WR are a strength but still depth is an issue as last season proved. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 12:46:26 GMT -5
The Packers also need a nose tackle to replace Raji. The names I'm reading about the most are: A'Shawn Robinson DT/NT Alabama Jarren Reed DT/NT Alabama Andrew Billings DT/NT Baylor Yes that's the top of the NT board |
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Post by Packersgal on Apr 8, 2016 12:54:27 GMT -5
This guy looks promising at WR:
3. WILL FULLER
Notre Dame, 6-0, 186, 4.32
Lowdown: Another speed burner, Fuller personifies the term vertical threat. Though he posted phenomenal numbers in his junior season before entering the draft — 62 catches, 1,258 yards, 14 touchdowns — they fail to tell the complete story of his speed and separation. Consider this: Fuller caught one pass of at least 20 yards in 12 out of 13 games. It gets better: He caught one pass of at least 40 yards in seven games. At the combine, Fuller's time of 4.32 seconds was the fastest among receivers and the second-fastest of any player. Struggles with drops at times. Body catcher. "That's a big thing that I've been working on is attacking the ball and not letting it eat me up," Fuller said at the combine.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 12:54:42 GMT -5
I have no idea what the Cowboys should do at #4. Bosa is being touted as the safe pick and he plays a position of need for them, but he's not a pass rushing freak. Still, it's hard to find a guy that you think can start and be productive for the next ten years on your d-line. If Ramsey falls to #4, I'm all in on him. I like Jack best. Swiss army knife LB who can cover TE's |
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Post by b1ake on Apr 8, 2016 13:03:34 GMT -5
I have no idea what the Cowboys should do at #4. Bosa is being touted as the safe pick and he plays a position of need for them, but he's not a pass rushing freak. Still, it's hard to find a guy that you think can start and be productive for the next ten years on your d-line. If Ramsey falls to #4, I'm all in on him. I like Jack best. Swiss army knife LB who can cover TE's Can he play a 4-3 DE? The 'Boys have to deal with the suspension of Gregory and the health concerns of D. Lawrence. Plus, Jack has an injury history and we already have enough of that with Lee, IMO. I love Jack's upside, I just think (well, hope) Bosa is a sure thing. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 13:19:05 GMT -5
I like Jack best. Swiss army knife LB who can cover TE's Can he play a 4-3 DE? The 'Boys have to deal with the suspension of Gregory and the health concerns of D. Lawrence. Plus, Jack has an injury history and we already have enough of that with Lee, IMO. I love Jack's upside, I just think (well, hope) Bosa is a sure thing. No he's a 4-3 OLB with cover skills that some teams project him as a S. There is such a glut of D-linemen DT's especially that there will be adequate DL's into day 3. Bosa < Russell Maryland  |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 13:22:06 GMT -5
This guy looks promising at WR: 3. WILL FULLER Notre Dame, 6-0, 186, 4.32 Lowdown: Another speed burner, Fuller personifies the term vertical threat. Though he posted phenomenal numbers in his junior season before entering the draft — 62 catches, 1,258 yards, 14 touchdowns — they fail to tell the complete story of his speed and separation. Consider this: Fuller caught one pass of at least 20 yards in 12 out of 13 games. It gets better: He caught one pass of at least 40 yards in seven games. At the combine, Fuller's time of 4.32 seconds was the fastest among receivers and the second-fastest of any player. Struggles with drops at times. Body catcher. "That's a big thing that I've been working on is attacking the ball and not letting it eat me up," Fuller said at the combine. Has their need for speed but that bold area scares me think Ted Ginn Jr. He'll burn 'em at times and drop 'em at times |
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Post by b1ake on Apr 8, 2016 13:30:46 GMT -5
Can he play a 4-3 DE? The 'Boys have to deal with the suspension of Gregory and the health concerns of D. Lawrence. Plus, Jack has an injury history and we already have enough of that with Lee, IMO. I love Jack's upside, I just think (well, hope) Bosa is a sure thing. No he's a 4-3 OLB with cover skills that some teams project him as a S. There is such a glut of D-linemen DT's especially that there will be adequate DL's into day 3. Bosa < Russell Maryland I agree that D-line is deep in the draft this go around, I just don't want to pass up on the guy that will start from day 1 through his tenth year. Unless they trade down, which I think there is a good possibility of actually happening with all the QB desperation around the league. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 13:46:38 GMT -5
No he's a 4-3 OLB with cover skills that some teams project him as a S. There is such a glut of D-linemen DT's especially that there will be adequate DL's into day 3. Bosa < Russell Maryland I agree that D-line is deep in the draft this go around, I just don't want to pass up on the guy that will start from day 1 through his tenth year. Unless they trade down, which I think there is a good possibility of actually happening with all the QB desperation around the league. I also believe that Buckner from Oregon would be more like what you want for your Pokes Joey Bosa = Red Bryant Not saying that's bad just more of the type of player I project Bosa to emulate |
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Post by b1ake on Apr 8, 2016 13:50:11 GMT -5
I agree that D-line is deep in the draft this go around, I just don't want to pass up on the guy that will start from day 1 through his tenth year. Unless they trade down, which I think there is a good possibility of actually happening with all the QB desperation around the league. I also believe that Buckner from Oregon would be more like what you want for your Pokes Joey Bosa = Red Bryant Not saying that's bad just more of the type of player I project Bosa to emulate I think Bosa's floor is a rich man's Ryan Kerrigan. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 13:54:40 GMT -5
I also believe that Buckner from Oregon would be more like what you want for your Pokes Joey Bosa = Red Bryant Not saying that's bad just more of the type of player I project Bosa to emulate I think Bosa's floor is a rich man's Ryan Kerrigan. That sounds more like the ceiling and the floor would be a poor man's Red Bryant |
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Post by b1ake on Apr 8, 2016 15:09:58 GMT -5
I think Bosa's floor is a rich man's Ryan Kerrigan. That sounds more like the ceiling and the floor would be a poor man's Red Bryant LMAO, that's a bit much. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 8, 2016 18:51:54 GMT -5
That sounds more like the ceiling and the floor would be a poor man's Red Bryant LMAO, that's a bit much. Read somewhere that his pro comparison is Jared Allen Seems very high to me although they based it on size speed ratio I look at the fact that let's face it, they were all stars previous to being pros but like in hockey someone becomes a 4th liner. Bosa has a motor so I seriously doubt he'll be a bust which is why I brought up Maryland a solid player but not a stud |
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Post by dyhard on Apr 9, 2016 5:06:15 GMT -5
he never was given an opportunity. every time he got an opportunity, he showed what he could do. he played great in the last game of the season & the playoff game. those were 2 big games for GB. also, he posted the fastest 40 time of any WR on the roster. and they were missing Nelson, which hurt. they upgraded their TE so they have Cook & Rodgers there. then Nelson returning, have Adams, Jones, Nelson, Cobb & Janis with Abberderis there as well. the passing game is going to take off this year. True getting Nelson back is important as their O looked stagnant without him. Jones won't be back if I'm not mistaken and Adams didn't step up when he had the chance. Janis had a few great plays in the playoffs but so did Chris Matthews the season before and he's now a Raven. So the starters at WR are a strength but still depth is an issue as last season proved. no, you're right regarding James Jones. Packers informed his agent (or player rep was the word used) that they have no interest in re-signing him. if they had an issue with depth, they would've retained him for this season after his 50-890-8 season he posted last year. while I understand your point with Chris Matthews, Janis has the speed the Packers were lacking last season. then they get Nelson back and they're good. they won't be running huge WR schemes where they'll need a lot of WR. of course they'll draft a WR later in the draft in the 5th-7th rounds somewhere like normal, but it's not a need. it's a fill-in. Nelson Cobb Adams Montgomery Janis/Abberdaris those are the WR for the Packers. to put them as a need is ridiculous. you have Rodgers throwing to them, he can make a somebody out of anybody. and the Packers are planning on running a structured offense this season compared to last season. also planning on running more 2 tight end sets as well as going back to their pistol-like formation in runs & short passes utilizing John Kuhn & that FB they drafted last year with both the TEs. they have, for the most part, what they need on offense. main concern is getting ILB/DT help as well as some depth at DB & improving their run-blocking that was terrible last year. I have total confidence the Packers can compete for the SB this season & Ted Thompson is known for great drafts so watch some magic happen this year. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 9, 2016 20:26:38 GMT -5
True getting Nelson back is important as their O looked stagnant without him. Jones won't be back if I'm not mistaken and Adams didn't step up when he had the chance. Janis had a few great plays in the playoffs but so did Chris Matthews the season before and he's now a Raven. So the starters at WR are a strength but still depth is an issue as last season proved. no, you're right regarding James Jones. Packers informed his agent (or player rep was the word used) that they have no interest in re-signing him. if they had an issue with depth, they would've retained him for this season after his 50-890-8 season he posted last year. while I understand your point with Chris Matthews, Janis has the speed the Packers were lacking last season. then they get Nelson back and they're good. they won't be running huge WR schemes where they'll need a lot of WR. of course they'll draft a WR later in the draft in the 5th-7th rounds somewhere like normal, but it's not a need. it's a fill-in. Nelson Cobb Adams Montgomery Janis/Abberdaris those are the WR for the Packers. to put them as a need is ridiculous. you have Rodgers throwing to them, he can make a somebody out of anybody. and the Packers are planning on running a structured offense this season compared to last season. also planning on running more 2 tight end sets as well as going back to their pistol-like formation in runs & short passes utilizing John Kuhn & that FB they drafted last year with both the TEs. they have, for the most part, what they need on offense. main concern is getting ILB/DT help as well as some depth at DB & improving their run-blocking that was terrible last year. I have total confidence the Packers can compete for the SB this season & Ted Thompson is known for great drafts so watch some magic happen this year. Okay here's my take on that. Adams didn't up his game when he got the chance to start mind you he is a good 3rd 4th receiver and as he is still on the upside of his career he may end up a 2-3 12 drops is a lot though. Montgomery had late season ankle surgery but wasn't much of a factor when playing. Janis was a D-II player and obviously their was a learning curve there. Love a guy who makes big plays at crucial times but why when even every media person in America talked about the speed that Nelson brought to the table was missing that he only played special teams and only got playing time cause of Montgomery's surgery. They all have upside but you are looking for starters or at least production and last year there wasn't much from that group. Jones was released cause he lost a step he couldn't afford to and with Nelson back and 3 youngsters they want to step up. Another point when I posted this they had yet to sign Cook who obviously would take some snaps away from the trio |
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Post by dyhard on Apr 10, 2016 3:33:35 GMT -5
no, you're right regarding James Jones. Packers informed his agent (or player rep was the word used) that they have no interest in re-signing him. if they had an issue with depth, they would've retained him for this season after his 50-890-8 season he posted last year. while I understand your point with Chris Matthews, Janis has the speed the Packers were lacking last season. then they get Nelson back and they're good. they won't be running huge WR schemes where they'll need a lot of WR. of course they'll draft a WR later in the draft in the 5th-7th rounds somewhere like normal, but it's not a need. it's a fill-in. Nelson Cobb Adams Montgomery Janis/Abberdaris those are the WR for the Packers. to put them as a need is ridiculous. you have Rodgers throwing to them, he can make a somebody out of anybody. and the Packers are planning on running a structured offense this season compared to last season. also planning on running more 2 tight end sets as well as going back to their pistol-like formation in runs & short passes utilizing John Kuhn & that FB they drafted last year with both the TEs. they have, for the most part, what they need on offense. main concern is getting ILB/DT help as well as some depth at DB & improving their run-blocking that was terrible last year. I have total confidence the Packers can compete for the SB this season & Ted Thompson is known for great drafts so watch some magic happen this year. Okay here's my take on that. Adams didn't up his game when he got the chance to start mind you he is a good 3rd 4th receiver and as he is still on the upside of his career he may end up a 2-3 12 drops is a lot though. Montgomery had late season ankle surgery but wasn't much of a factor when playing. Janis was a D-II player and obviously their was a learning curve there. Love a guy who makes big plays at crucial times but why when even every media person in America talked about the speed that Nelson brought to the table was missing that he only played special teams and only got playing time cause of Montgomery's surgery. They all have upside but you are looking for starters or at least production and last year there wasn't much from that group. Jones was released cause he lost a step he couldn't afford to and with Nelson back and 3 youngsters they want to step up. Another point when I posted this they had yet to sign Cook who obviously would take some snaps away from the trio Adams had problems with drops, but he was looked upon to be a number 2 and sometimes as a 1 to keep Cobb in his same position. that's not what he is. he's a 3 and that's what he'll be this season. the drops are a concern, but the rest of his talents aren't. Montgomery is fine, he'll be fine & he's a 4th option anyway. so I don't see an issue. wasn't looked upon to be too much anyway. I don't care if he was a d-II player or not, that's irrelevant. what's relevant is what he's shown us so far & what he brings to the table. he has speed. that's what you said they needed right? That's what they do need, right? so he'll get playing time & add speed. plus, Nelson is back so speed isn't an issue anymore. and I know your not in GB or follow fans so you don't see it, but fans were calling local radio stations damn near begging McCarthy to get Janis in the game. the Packers' writers also were looking for him to come in the game. all these fans on Twitter/FB wanted Janis in the game. he finally got his opportunity the last game of the season and in the playoffs and shown what he can do. the reason he didn't play? i don't know, you have to ask McCarthy. maybe it was something McCarthy didn't like. maybe McCarthy didn't want to go with him because he thought he had better options. I don't know, but he's 5th or 6th on the depth anyway currently so I'm not really concerned too much. they have no interest in signing Jones because they want to go with the young players & don't want to take development/playing time away from them. Nelson, Cobb, Adams/Montgomery/Janis/Abberdaris. production got taken away because of Nelson. you could easily see that. Rodgers wasn't himself, Nelson wasn't there. it was like the offense was lost without a playmaker besides Cobb. the running game wasn't good because Lacy ran into defenders like he was blind. the run-blocking was terrible. the offense couldn't get moving. with Nelson back & Lacy losing weight & the signing of Cook, I see why there should be no issues with the offense besides run blocking in which they'll take care of the need in the draft. why waste top picks on a WR that they don't need, when they could clearly pick ILB/DT first 3 picks and then go after run-blocking OL n fill in needs later in draft like usual |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 10, 2016 11:16:49 GMT -5
Okay here's my take on that. Adams didn't up his game when he got the chance to start mind you he is a good 3rd 4th receiver and as he is still on the upside of his career he may end up a 2-3 12 drops is a lot though. Montgomery had late season ankle surgery but wasn't much of a factor when playing. Janis was a D-II player and obviously their was a learning curve there. Love a guy who makes big plays at crucial times but why when even every media person in America talked about the speed that Nelson brought to the table was missing that he only played special teams and only got playing time cause of Montgomery's surgery. They all have upside but you are looking for starters or at least production and last year there wasn't much from that group. Jones was released cause he lost a step he couldn't afford to and with Nelson back and 3 youngsters they want to step up. Another point when I posted this they had yet to sign Cook who obviously would take some snaps away from the trio Adams had problems with drops, but he was looked upon to be a number 2 and sometimes as a 1 to keep Cobb in his same position. that's not what he is. he's a 3 and that's what he'll be this season. the drops are a concern, but the rest of his talents aren't. Montgomery is fine, he'll be fine & he's a 4th option anyway. so I don't see an issue. wasn't looked upon to be too much anyway. I don't care if he was a d-II player or not, that's irrelevant. what's relevant is what he's shown us so far & what he brings to the table. he has speed. that's what you said they needed right? That's what they do need, right? so he'll get playing time & add speed. plus, Nelson is back so speed isn't an issue anymore. and I know your not in GB or follow fans so you don't see it, but fans were calling local radio stations damn near begging McCarthy to get Janis in the game. the Packers' writers also were looking for him to come in the game. all these fans on Twitter/FB wanted Janis in the game. he finally got his opportunity the last game of the season and in the playoffs and shown what he can do. the reason he didn't play? i don't know, you have to ask McCarthy. maybe it was something McCarthy didn't like. maybe McCarthy didn't want to go with him because he thought he had better options. I don't know, but he's 5th or 6th on the depth anyway currently so I'm not really concerned too much. they have no interest in signing Jones because they want to go with the young players & don't want to take development/playing time away from them.
Nelson, Cobb, Adams/Montgomery/Janis/Abberdaris. production got taken away because of Nelson. you could easily see that. Rodgers wasn't himself, Nelson wasn't there. it was like the offense was lost without a playmaker besides Cobb. the running game wasn't good because Lacy ran into defenders like he was blind. the run-blocking was terrible. the offense couldn't get moving. with Nelson back & Lacy losing weight & the signing of Cook, I see why there should be no issues with the offense besides run blocking in which they'll take care of the need in the draft. why waste top picks on a WR that they don't need, when they could clearly pick ILB/DT first 3 picks and then go after run-blocking OL n fill in needs later in draft like usual So what happens if Nelson gets injured again. Pedestrian offense. There is a simple reason it was put down as a need. Last season ONE PLAYER got injured and their passing offense fell apart. If I'm drafting I'm making sure I address that problem.
The statement about Janis being D-II wasn't meaning that that means he can't be a good enough player . It's like double A to the majors there is an adjustment period. He put up great numbers in college but in Green Bay he only got on the field (on offense) due to Nelson being out and Montgomery. I am interesting in seeing the jump he makes in 2016. Also you always look to get better and in my opinion that is a place the Packers should look |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 10, 2016 12:54:47 GMT -5
Okay here's my take on that. Adams didn't up his game when he got the chance to start mind you he is a good 3rd 4th receiver and as he is still on the upside of his career he may end up a 2-3 12 drops is a lot though. Montgomery had late season ankle surgery but wasn't much of a factor when playing. Janis was a D-II player and obviously their was a learning curve there. Love a guy who makes big plays at crucial times but why when even every media person in America talked about the speed that Nelson brought to the table was missing that he only played special teams and only got playing time cause of Montgomery's surgery. They all have upside but you are looking for starters or at least production and last year there wasn't much from that group. Jones was released cause he lost a step he couldn't afford to and with Nelson back and 3 youngsters they want to step up. Another point when I posted this they had yet to sign Cook who obviously would take some snaps away from the trio Adams had problems with drops, but he was looked upon to be a number 2 and sometimes as a 1 to keep Cobb in his same position. that's not what he is. he's a 3 and that's what he'll be this season. the drops are a concern, but the rest of his talents aren't. Montgomery is fine, he'll be fine & he's a 4th option anyway. so I don't see an issue. wasn't looked upon to be too much anyway. I don't care if he was a d-II player or not, that's irrelevant. what's relevant is what he's shown us so far & what he brings to the table. he has speed. that's what you said they needed right? That's what they do need, right? so he'll get playing time & add speed. plus, Nelson is back so speed isn't an issue anymore. and I know your not in GB or follow fans so you don't see it, but fans were calling local radio stations damn near begging McCarthy to get Janis in the game. the Packers' writers also were looking for him to come in the game. all these fans on Twitter/FB wanted Janis in the game. he finally got his opportunity the last game of the season and in the playoffs and shown what he can do. the reason he didn't play? i don't know, you have to ask McCarthy. maybe it was something McCarthy didn't like. maybe McCarthy didn't want to go with him because he thought he had better options. I don't know, but he's 5th or 6th on the depth anyway currently so I'm not really concerned too much. they have no interest in signing Jones because they want to go with the young players & don't want to take development/playing time away from them. Nelson, Cobb, Adams/Montgomery/Janis/Abberdaris. production got taken away because of Nelson. you could easily see that. Rodgers wasn't himself, Nelson wasn't there. it was like the offense was lost without a playmaker besides Cobb. the running game wasn't good because Lacy ran into defenders like he was blind. the run-blocking was terrible. the offense couldn't get moving. with Nelson back & Lacy losing weight & the signing of Cook, I see why there should be no issues with the offense besides run blocking in which they'll take care of the need in the draft. why waste top picks on a WR that they don't need, when they could clearly pick ILB/DT first 3 picks and then go after run-blocking OL n fill in needs later in draft like usual It is a need. You don't reach for a WR but when your pick comes up and there's a player at a position of need a couple spots down your board with a similar grade you step up . At this time ILB and DT are the two most glaring needs. As per all teams O-line is a need and again as per all teams the back ten on the teams depth chart can be upgraded |
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