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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 5, 2016 16:37:25 GMT -5
 So Cowboys fan (or just a general NFL fan), put yourself in Jerry's shoes, without the criticism and the great wealth, and try to fix this 4-12 team with just three draft selections. You've got the 4th overall pick, the 34th overall pick, and the 67th overall pick. No trades, just straight up picking. Do you prioritize a backup QB, and the post-Romo Cowboys? Or do you go for a RB, or maybe on the defensive side that kept Dallas in games? I'd love to see what everyone comes up with!  |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 6, 2016 15:50:51 GMT -5
Myles Jack
Derrick Henry
Connor Cook
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Feb 10, 2016 17:05:37 GMT -5
I like Myles Jack in the first unless Robinson from Alabama shines in the combine. We are desperate for push up the middle but not so much that if Jack is rated ahead of Robinson you don't mess around. You take him.
Second round... right now, if I'm taking a RB I'm taking Elliott. I just don't like the history of Alabama RB's in the NFL. And - there is a history. I think Ezekiel will be the better pro.
Third - I'm probably still looking at defense. CB or D-Line. I know this - I got a first hand look at Cook when my grandson and I went to the Cotton Bowl. I'm out on him. Period.
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 14, 2016 10:02:25 GMT -5
Myles Jack Derrick Henry Connor Cook Eh, I'm not THAT in love with Myles Jack to take him 4th overall. We need to make sure this pick hits, and I see a lot better prospects out there. For one (though I'm opposed to taking a backup), there could be Joey Bosa, Jalen Ramsey, Carson Wentz, Shaq Lawson, Vernon Hargreaves, Eli Apple at the 4th spot, ones I'd really prefer over Jack. I'd like to see Derrick Henry, great kid, but feel that Nick Saban runs his running backs in the ground. Henry carried the ball FORTY-SIX times in one game this year, just one game, 46 carries.... Ridiculous. And I have a Michigan State fan, who is my sports mentor, who says he doesn't see in Connor Cook what he saw with Kirk Cousins, and that's pro potential. If we take a QB, we better believe he has a high IQ (I don't know Cook's), that he's willing to learn, and has everything it takes to be able to live up to the Cowboys quarterbacks. Sorry if it feels like I dissed your post, it's just I didn't really agree with any of these picks lol, so no offense intended sir. You're still one of my favorite posters on the site  I like Myles Jack in the first unless Robinson from Alabama shines in the combine. We are desperate for push up the middle but not so much that if Jack is rated ahead of Robinson you don't mess around. You take him. Second round... right now, if I'm taking a RB I'm taking Elliott. I just don't like the history of Alabama RB's in the NFL. And - there is a history. I think Ezekiel will be the better pro. Third - I'm probably still looking at defense. CB or D-Line. I know this - I got a first hand look at Cook when my grandson and I went to the Cotton Bowl. I'm out on him. Period. I've spoken about Myles Jack above, but I like A'Shawn Robinson or Jarran Reed. You can't go wrong with any Alabama defensive front 7, really. That front will be looked back in 30 years as one of the greatest of all-time, and we'll also reflect on their NFL success. I would be totally okay if we had someone to pair with Tyrone Crawford and help give the ends 1-on-1 matchups. I agree with Elliot having the better pro potential than Henry, as there is that poor history with Bama running backs. If he's still on the board, I wouldn't be upset, even if McFadden had a great year last season. I'm afraid Elliot could be gone as high as 10, or knowing Jerry, he might pull the trigger at 4... smh I agree you have to continue looking at defense... And soooo agree on Cook! If a MSU fan, who wants nothing more than his players to go onto the next level and succeed, if he's out, then I'm out too (talking about my sports mentor from Pittsburgh here).... So yeah, if we get a quarterback, the only guy I'd be disappointed with in the later rounds is Cook... Just so disappointed. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 15, 2016 2:20:44 GMT -5
I like Myles Jack in the first unless Robinson from Alabama shines in the combine. We are desperate for push up the middle but not so much that if Jack is rated ahead of Robinson you don't mess around. You take him. Second round... right now, if I'm taking a RB I'm taking Elliott. I just don't like the history of Alabama RB's in the NFL. And - there is a history. I think Ezekiel will be the better pro. Third - I'm probably still looking at defense. CB or D-Line. I know this - I got a first hand look at Cook when my grandson and I went to the Cotton Bowl. I'm out on him. Period. Myles Jack Derrick Henry Connor Cook Eh, I'm not THAT in love with Myles Jack to take him 4th overall. We need to make sure this pick hits, and I see a lot better prospects out there. For one (though I'm opposed to taking a backup), there could be Joey Bosa, Jalen Ramsey, Carson Wentz, Shaq Lawson, Vernon Hargreaves, Eli Apple at the 4th spot, ones I'd really prefer over Jack. I'd like to see Derrick Henry, great kid, but feel that Nick Saban runs his running backs in the ground. Henry carried the ball FORTY-SIX times in one game this year, just one game, 46 carries.... Ridiculous. And I have a Michigan State fan, who is my sports mentor, who says he doesn't see in Connor Cook what he saw with Kirk Cousins, and that's pro potential. If we take a QB, we better believe he has a high IQ (I don't know Cook's), that he's willing to learn, and has everything it takes to be able to live up to the Cowboys quarterbacks. Sorry if it feels like I dissed your post, it's just I didn't really agree with any of these picks lol, so no offense intended sir. You're still one of my favorite posters on the site I like Myles Jack in the first unless Robinson from Alabama shines in the combine. We are desperate for push up the middle but not so much that if Jack is rated ahead of Robinson you don't mess around. You take him. Second round... right now, if I'm taking a RB I'm taking Elliott. I just don't like the history of Alabama RB's in the NFL. And - there is a history. I think Ezekiel will be the better pro. Third - I'm probably still looking at defense. CB or D-Line. I know this - I got a first hand look at Cook when my grandson and I went to the Cotton Bowl. I'm out on him. Period. I've spoken about Myles Jack above, but I like A'Shawn Robinson or Jarran Reed. You can't go wrong with any Alabama defensive front 7, really. That front will be looked back in 30 years as one of the greatest of all-time, and we'll also reflect on their NFL success. I would be totally okay if we had someone to pair with Tyrone Crawford and help give the ends 1-on-1 matchups. I agree with Elliot having the better pro potential than Henry, as there is that poor history with Bama running backs. If he's still on the board, I wouldn't be upset, even if McFadden had a great year last season. I'm afraid Elliot could be gone as high as 10, or knowing Jerry, he might pull the trigger at 4... smh I agree you have to continue looking at defense... And soooo agree on Cook! If a MSU fan, who wants nothing more than his players to go onto the next level and succeed, if he's out, then I'm out too (talking about my sports mentor from Pittsburgh here).... So yeah, if we get a quarterback, the only guy I'd be disappointed with in the later rounds is Cook... Just so disappointed. Couple of points here Elliot will be gone between 8-20 in the 1st round so he wasn't an option I wouldn't take Henry either just figure that that would be a possible pick at a position of need. Hargraeves is the top corner IMO and is a island type who is a better man to man than any others this season so if they don't go for Jack he would be the one I'd hope goes there (if I was a pokes fan)This draft has a top heavy DL sku to it and as that this is the reason I'd expect them to answer that position later rather than sooner. As for their 2nd pick I expect they will have a target that they expect to still be there later in the round and to trade down. Devontae Booker, RB, Utah or Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA if they are targeting a RB in round 2 Josh Ferguson, RB, Illinois Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech are good possibilities if they wait till round 3 Personally if I was going for a QB not in the top 3 (Wentz Goff and Lynch) I would be, as the Pokes don't need a QB in 2016 (and health permitting 2017) looking at Cardale Jones, as a project with an outstanding skill set but needs work in the nuances of the position,to groom for 2018. As for being dissed hell no I was dissing the Pokes with the 2 and 3 pick. I am kinda on the fence as to what they need defensively beyond a cover corner and an outside pass rush presence as a team starting Weeden Cassell and Moore really put the team in a hole and I think that with that OL hitting on a bellcow RB day 2 will help not only their O but their D, and more importantly with no back up QB on their roster take the pressure off one if Romo goes to the IR again in 2016 |
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 15, 2016 12:54:10 GMT -5
Swamp Dragon I love that post....... Just love it!!! I'd love to see Hargreaves or Ramsey, leaning towards Hargreaves a little bit more... And if Devontae Booker is a Cowboy, I'm good! 
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 15, 2016 19:29:38 GMT -5
Swamp Dragon I love that post....... Just love it!!! I'd love to see Hargreaves or Ramsey, leaning towards Hargreaves a little bit more... And if Devontae Booker is a Cowboy, I'm good! Glad you like it I also expect them to look for a possession receiver a sideline to sideline type ILB and D-line depth and if Escobar is not looked at as a starter quality TE (hard to tell with those QB's tossing passes) a flier on a TE |
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 17, 2016 2:25:55 GMT -5
Swamp Dragon I love that post....... Just love it!!! I'd love to see Hargreaves or Ramsey, leaning towards Hargreaves a little bit more... And if Devontae Booker is a Cowboy, I'm good! Glad you like it I also expect them to look for a possession receiver a sideline to sideline type ILB and D-line depth and if Escobar is not looked at as a starter quality TE (hard to tell with those QB's tossing passes) a flier on a TE Well let's not forget that Escobar and Hanna have been overshadowed by Witten, one of the more durable players in Cowboys history. They saw Witten aging and felt they needed young tight ends under his tutelage, but Witten's produced better than he's paid, which is why Escobar and Hanna haven't shined. Possession receiver is definite, though anyone saying Laquon Treadwell at the 4th overall pick needs to be slapped with a dead fish. Sideline-to-sideline ILB would also be a great add this offseason, because there's too much that Rolando McClain carries with him tbh, that I don't think Dallas should break the bank for. And defensive line depth all over is necessary. I feel adding a starting DT would do that, having Nick Hayden and David Irving in the rotation, and if we don't sign Greg Hardy back, we need a couple of guys to be with Gregory and Lawrence, as I feel Jeremy Mincey doesn't return next season. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 18, 2016 18:05:31 GMT -5
I like Myles Jack in the first unless Robinson from Alabama shines in the combine. We are desperate for push up the middle but not so much that if Jack is rated ahead of Robinson you don't mess around. You take him. Second round... right now, if I'm taking a RB I'm taking Elliott. I just don't like the history of Alabama RB's in the NFL. And - there is a history. I think Ezekiel will be the better pro. Third - I'm probably still looking at defense. CB or D-Line. I know this - I got a first hand look at Cook when my grandson and I went to the Cotton Bowl. I'm out on him. Period. Trade down to Miami or T Bays spot take Elliot pick up a 2nd and a late rounder Take a CB like Xavien Howard, Baylor and I can see them jumping on Nkemdiche if he's still there at 35. Thing with this draft is it's short on quality DB's but long on D-linemen so that's a toss up. There are a lot of red chip ILB's that will litter day 2 and early day 3 to fill holes there. The more I think of Cardale as a project QB here the more I like it especially if they take Elliot, whom would probably also save Romo to an extent as they would have to keep extra players in the box |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 19, 2016 2:08:03 GMT -5
The Cowboys have Jalen Ramsey as the No. 1 player on their board. - Tony Pauline
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initial three selections on a running back. - Jon Machota, Dallas
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The Cowboys could be interested in Colt McCoy. - Todd Archer, ESPN
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Feb 19, 2016 8:35:53 GMT -5
Mel "I used to be relevant" Kiper has the Cowboys taking Goff with the #4 pick.
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 19, 2016 17:46:51 GMT -5
I like Myles Jack in the first unless Robinson from Alabama shines in the combine. We are desperate for push up the middle but not so much that if Jack is rated ahead of Robinson you don't mess around. You take him. Second round... right now, if I'm taking a RB I'm taking Elliott. I just don't like the history of Alabama RB's in the NFL. And - there is a history. I think Ezekiel will be the better pro. Third - I'm probably still looking at defense. CB or D-Line. I know this - I got a first hand look at Cook when my grandson and I went to the Cotton Bowl. I'm out on him. Period. Trade down to Miami or T Bays spot take Elliot pick up a 2nd and a late rounder Take a CB like Xavien Howard, Baylor and I can see them jumping on Nkemdiche if he's still there at 35. Thing with this draft is it's short on quality DB's but long on D-linemen so that's a toss up. There are a lot of red chip ILB's that will litter day 2 and early day 3 to fill holes there. The more I think of Cardale as a project QB here the more I like it especially if they take Elliot, whom would probably also save Romo to an extent as they would have to keep extra players in the box Yeah, if we got Ezekiel Elliot and Cardale Jones, I'm more than content. The Cowboys have Jalen Ramsey as the No. 1 player on their board. - Tony Pauline It would be a surprise if the Cowboys didn't use one of their initial three selections on a running back. - Jon Machota, Dallas Morning News The Cowboys could be interested in Colt McCoy. - Todd Archer, ESPN Personally, I think Vernon Hargreaves and Mackensie Alexander will both have better careers than Jalen Ramsey, but they all could be very good. But as for Ramsey being the #1 on Cowboys draft board, I think Jerry's a better businessman than to just say who he wants #1. He's likely pulling strings to try to get his #1 guy (not Ramsey) at 4, or trying to jerk a team up to trade to get Ramsey. Yeah, you can go after a running back in free agency and Darren McFadden was spectacular this past season, but it's no surprise the future at the RB position will be drafted for the Cowboys to age with this offensive line. Colt McCoy, if signed by Dallas, would likely be a #2 option while a rookie we draft in Day 3, if we even do, will be third on the depth chart so he's not rushed in the worst case scenario. I could see them taking McCoy, who I loved at Texas, and if he doesn't go to the Browns he likely has a decent career. |
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 19, 2016 17:48:30 GMT -5
Mel "I used to be relevant" Kiper has the Cowboys taking Goff with the #4 pick. Yeah, I don't watch ESPN anymore so this is the first I'm hearing of this. Taking a backup in the 1st round while trying to bring Romo and Witten a Super Bowl NOW is insanely dumb. Even if Jerry falls hard for Jared Goff or Carson Wentz, I don't believe Stephen, Jason, or Will let Jerry make that pick. And yeah, I'm on a first-name basis. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 19, 2016 19:34:16 GMT -5
Mel "I used to be relevant" Kiper has the Cowboys taking Goff with the #4 pick. If I was the Cowboys I'd create the smokescreen that we are taking one of the 3 QB's (2 by their pick) to try and draw the Niners Eagles or Rams to trade up (preferably the Niners if the Pokes want Elliot) |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Feb 19, 2016 20:31:59 GMT -5
Mel "I used to be relevant" Kiper has the Cowboys taking Goff with the #4 pick. Yeah, I don't watch ESPN anymore so this is the first I'm hearing of this. Taking a backup in the 1st round while trying to bring Romo and Witten a Super Bowl NOW is insanely dumb. Even if Jerry falls hard for Jared Goff or Carson Wentz, I don't believe Stephen, Jason, or Will let Jerry make that pick. And yeah, I'm on a first-name basis. It would go against everything we know about Jerry to do that. Unless it is truly a smoke screen... and that in itself isn't in Jerry's DNA either. I don't see it. And considering it came from Kiper - I see it even less. |
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 20, 2016 15:19:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't watch ESPN anymore so this is the first I'm hearing of this. Taking a backup in the 1st round while trying to bring Romo and Witten a Super Bowl NOW is insanely dumb. Even if Jerry falls hard for Jared Goff or Carson Wentz, I don't believe Stephen, Jason, or Will let Jerry make that pick. And yeah, I'm on a first-name basis. It would go against everything we know about Jerry to do that. Unless it is truly a smoke screen... and that in itself isn't in Jerry's DNA either. I don't see it. And considering it came from Kiper - I see it even less.. Well, we know Jerry Jones was strongly considering Johnny Manziel for Romo's backup when they selected Zack Martin, and I'm only speaking of reports after the draft. Post-draft news came out a few months later that Jerry Jones wanted to take Manziel since he slipped, but was convinced not to do it and stick with the offensive line plan. So yeah, I'd hope if Jerry fell in love with a backup QB in the 1st, he's talked out of it once again.... hopefully. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 26, 2016 13:44:45 GMT -5
So Cowboys fan (or just a general NFL fan), put yourself in Jerry's shoes, without the criticism and the great wealth, and try to fix this 4-12 team with just three draft selections. You've got the 4th overall pick, the 34th overall pick, and the 67th overall pick. No trades, just straight up picking. Do you prioritize a backup QB, and the post-Romo Cowboys? Or do you go for a RB, or maybe on the defensive side that kept Dallas in games? I'd love to see what everyone comes up with! |
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 26, 2016 14:47:26 GMT -5
So Cowboys fan (or just a general NFL fan), put yourself in Jerry's shoes, without the criticism and the great wealth, and try to fix this 4-12 team with just three draft selections. You've got the 4th overall pick, the 34th overall pick, and the 67th overall pick. No trades, just straight up picking. Do you prioritize a backup QB, and the post-Romo Cowboys? Or do you go for a RB, or maybe on the defensive side that kept Dallas in games? I'd love to see what everyone comes up with! Did he really say this? |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 26, 2016 21:27:37 GMT -5
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Post by "TIJ" Michael Davis on Feb 26, 2016 22:55:24 GMT -5
Oh hhahahaha, links and text are the same color, so that's why  Anyway, I believe we don't seek out Carson Wentz or Jared Goff at 4 tbh, or Paxton Lynch or Connor Cook.. That'd just be bad, and honestly would eliminate ever winning a Super Bowl with Tony Romo. If they go defense or running back (Ezekiel Elliot), that likely means they're more focused on the now and getting Romo and Witten their rings before they retire. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Apr 21, 2016 6:38:58 GMT -5
After re-reading this thread... that's why making any sense of the draft until the last week or so prior is useless.
Bosa will go #4 unless Jerry trades down. And I'm not sensing any teams are clamoring to trade up now that the Rams and the Iggles have played their "let's make stupid deals" cards.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 21, 2016 11:33:35 GMT -5
After re-reading this thread... that's why making any sense of the draft until the last week or so prior is useless. Bosa will go #4 unless Jerry trades down. And I'm not sensing any teams are clamoring to trade up now that the Rams and the Iggles have played their "let's make stupid deals" cards. True when there are no clear cut choices at the top it really is tough to project. I see Jack Bosa Elliot Buckner and Ramsey as their possible choices. |
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Post by Guns n Guitars on Apr 21, 2016 18:41:08 GMT -5
1. Joey Bosa
2. Reggie Ragland
3. Kenneth Dixon
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Apr 21, 2016 19:04:47 GMT -5
After re-reading this thread... that's why making any sense of the draft until the last week or so prior is useless. Bosa will go #4 unless Jerry trades down. And I'm not sensing any teams are clamoring to trade up now that the Rams and the Iggles have played their "let's make stupid deals" cards. True when there are no clear cut choices at the top it really is tough to project. I see Jack Bosa Elliot Buckner and Ramsey as their possible choices. They will not take Jack. His knee scares them off. They won't take Zeke. They are confident they can get Henry or Dixon later and at better value. My preference is Buckner as they are weak at DT. But - they absolutely have to get a pass rushing end. If Bosa's there, he's coming to Dallas. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Apr 21, 2016 19:07:02 GMT -5
1. Joey Bosa 2. Reggie Ragland 3. Kenneth Dixon If Ragland is there in the 2nd... I'm with you GnG. I'm all over him. I took my grandson to the Cotton Bowl. Ragland was a man among boys. And i I really like Dixon. He's a little fumble prone but that can be coached up. The talent - well, you know what he did to UNT. |
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Post by Guns n Guitars on Apr 21, 2016 19:47:38 GMT -5
1. Joey Bosa 2. Reggie Ragland 3. Kenneth Dixon If Ragland is there in the 2nd... I'm with you GnG. I'm all over him. I took my grandson to the Cotton Bowl. Ragland was a man among boys. And i I really like Dixon. He's a little fumble prone but that can be coached up. The talent - well, you know what he did to UNT. I'm glad you like my picks Otis. I'm high on both Ragland and Dixon. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 21, 2016 22:35:29 GMT -5
1. Joey Bosa 2. Reggie Ragland 3. Kenneth Dixon .. I'm with you GnG. I'm all over him. I took my grandson to the Cotton Bowl. Ragland was a man among boys. And i I really like Dixon. He's a little fumble prone but that can be coached up. The talent - well, you know what he did to UNT. Can't see him lasting anywhere near that long. Hard to see him getting by Green Bay If Ragland is there in the 2nd... I'm with you GnG. I'm all over him. I took my grandson to the Cotton Bowl. Ragland was a man among boys. And i I really like Dixon. He's a little fumble prone but that can be coached up. The talent - well, you know what he did to UNT. I'm glad you like my picks Otis. I'm high on both Ragland and Dixon. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Apr 22, 2016 7:00:48 GMT -5
If Ragland is there in the 2nd... I'm with you GnG. I'm all over him. I took my grandson to the Cotton Bowl. Ragland was a man among boys. And i I really like Dixon. He's a little fumble prone but that can be coached up. The talent - well, you know what he did to UNT. Can't see him lasting anywhere near that long. Hard to see him getting by Green Bay I'm glad you like my picks Otis. I'm high on both Ragland and Dixon. I don't either - but if he does... |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Apr 26, 2016 22:27:08 GMT -5
Can't see him lasting anywhere near that long. Hard to see him getting by Green Bay I don't either - but if he does... New rumors are saying that if Ramsey is there they are taking him. I really don't like that pick pretty high for someone who'll spend his career as a safety IMO. Buckner if the go D-line. Elliot is who I like here but looks like they are going another way |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Apr 27, 2016 5:59:09 GMT -5
I don't either - but if he does... New rumors are saying that if Ramsey is there they are taking him. I really don't like that pick pretty high for someone who'll spend his career as a safety IMO. Buckner if the go D-line. Elliot is who I like here but looks like they are going another way It's down to Ramsey or Elliot. There is a ton of scuttlebutt right now around Elliot. Hard to say if it's smoke or genuine. But there is no question how they feel about Ramsey. They love him. Bosa is off the table - not at #4. I have been saying for months that I would love getting Buckner but I just don't see that happening. If Ramsey is there, he's coming here. And I agree that his best position will be Safety. He and Byron Jones will make a nice duo. |
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