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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 3, 2015 12:48:42 GMT -5
They like Quarles and they have Rodgers as their 2 yes they could upgrade but not in this draft well, they ended up grabbing a TE with their last pick which isn't bad. looking at this draft, I really like it. the QB selection isn't surprising. we need a back-up QB badly. if Rodgers gets hurt, they're screwed. they're in a better situation now, plus, if he's still with the team when Rodgers retires, he could be the next starter but that's highly unlikely They are happy with Tolzein, it is why Flynn hasn't been resigned. Hundley is a project he will be buried on the practice roster for a couple seasons if he progresses |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 3, 2015 13:00:22 GMT -5
Oregon cornerback Ifo Ekpre-Olomu collects a $3 million insurance check for falling past the third round. That's one of the more interesting deals I've heard. What's more interesting is that Oregon paid the 40K for the insurance policy. Ekpre-Olomu was going to declare last season The Ducks paid for the policy to keep him for his senior season. They projected him to be #12 (he was a potential #1 in 2014) in 2015 blew his knee. What gets me is the NCAA is okay with this, Oregon paying for the policy. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 3, 2015 13:32:52 GMT -5
Cause he wasn't drafted he cannot go into next years draft LMAO. That makes sense. I think that should also apply to player's who are drafted (such as Bo Jackson) No difference from NBA MLB NHL. I'm sure there are legal reasons they can't |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 3, 2015 15:11:31 GMT -5
What's more interesting is that Oregon paid the 40K for the insurance policy. Ekpre-Olomu was going to declare last season The Ducks paid for the policy to keep him for his senior season. They projected him to be #12 (he was a potential #1 in 2014) in 2015 blew his knee. What gets me is the NCAA is okay with this, Oregon paying for the policy. Maybe the NCAA is getting a cut of the contract because it's on the books. Kind of like how the U.S. Government legalizes prostitution in Las Vegas simply because they are able to tax it. That means Emmett is pimp-daddy |
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Post by EWA Beach PGH Fan on May 4, 2015 3:57:45 GMT -5
What's more interesting is that Oregon paid the 40K for the insurance policy. Ekpre-Olomu was going to declare last season The Ducks paid for the policy to keep him for his senior season. They projected him to be #12 (he was a potential #1 in 2014) in 2015 blew his knee. What gets me is the NCAA is okay with this, Oregon paying for the policy. That is a valid question. If they don't I'd expect other schools to do the same. All the big well moneyed schools will be all over this. |
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Post by dyhard on May 4, 2015 10:11:02 GMT -5
well, they ended up grabbing a TE with their last pick which isn't bad. looking at this draft, I really like it. the QB selection isn't surprising. we need a back-up QB badly. if Rodgers gets hurt, they're screwed. they're in a better situation now, plus, if he's still with the team when Rodgers retires, he could be the next starter but that's highly unlikely They are happy with Tolzein, it is why Flynn hasn't been resigned. Hundley is a project he will be buried on the practice roster for a couple seasons if he progresses according to who? according to the Packers front office, Hundley is coming in to compete for the back-up position behind Rodgers, which means he WILL compete with Tolzien for back-up. they wouldn't have drafted him if he's just a project that's gonna be buried on practice squad |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 4, 2015 14:55:35 GMT -5
They are happy with Tolzein, it is why Flynn hasn't been resigned. Hundley is a project he will be buried on the practice roster for a couple seasons if he progresses according to who? according to the Packers front office, Hundley is coming in to compete for the back-up position behind Rodgers, which means he WILL compete with Tolkien for back-up. they wouldn't have drafted him if he's just a project that's gonna be buried on practice squad I actually think Hundley with the proper coaching work ethic and scheme could be a passable NFL QB But almost every pundit called him a project and projects that play QB for the Packers join the practice squad. If Russell Wilson hasn't taught the league something it's that every job is a competition. But I'll give Hundley about a 3-5 % chance of beating out Tolzien this season the coaching ethic etc UI mentioned earlier will determine whether he has a chance in 2016 Try this story from a Packer-centric site The Packers Apparently Really Like Scott Tolzienby totalpackers.com totalpackers.com/2013/10/31/packers-apparently-really-like-scott-tolzien/
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 4, 2015 15:09:31 GMT -5
They are happy with Tolzein, it is why Flynn hasn't been resigned. Hundley is a project he will be buried on the practice roster for a couple seasons if he progresses according to who? according to the Packers front office, Hundley is coming in to compete for the back-up position behind Rodgers, which means he WILL compete with Tolzien for back-up. they wouldn't have drafted him if he's just a project that's gonna be buried on practice squad Hundley does have a way higher ceiling than Tolzien thing is his floor is a lot lower also. There is a reason that Tolzien is still on the roster and Flynn is probably on his way to being a QB coach at a Jr College |
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Post by dyhard on May 5, 2015 0:10:28 GMT -5
according to who? according to the Packers front office, Hundley is coming in to compete for the back-up position behind Rodgers, which means he WILL compete with Tolkien for back-up. they wouldn't have drafted him if he's just a project that's gonna be buried on practice squad I actually think Hundley with the proper coaching work ethic and scheme could be a passable NFL QB But almost every pundit called him a project and projects that play QB for the Packers join the practice squad. If Russell Wilson hasn't taught the league something it's that every job is a competition. But I'll give Hundley about a 3-5 % chance of beating out Tolzien this season the coaching ethic etc UI mentioned earlier will determine whether he has a chance in 2016 Try this story from a Packer-centric site The Packers Apparently Really Like Scott Tolzienby totalpackers.com totalpackers.com/2013/10/31/packers-apparently-really-like-scott-tolzien/
and did you check the date on that article? it says "10/31/2013" kinda out-dated right? so where are you getting your data from? you might want to change that, because what a executive (Elliot Wolf, actually) said was that they drafted Hundley to compete with Tolzien for the back-up QB position. and what some insiders have been saying is that Hundley will actually beat out Tolzien |
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Post by dyhard on May 5, 2015 0:14:23 GMT -5
according to who? according to the Packers front office, Hundley is coming in to compete for the back-up position behind Rodgers, which means he WILL compete with Tolzien for back-up. they wouldn't have drafted him if he's just a project that's gonna be buried on practice squad Hundley does have a way higher ceiling than Tolzien thing is his floor is a lot lower also. There is a reason that Tolzien is still on the roster and Flynn is probably on his way to being a QB coach at a Jr College of course a draft pick's floor going to be lower than a player who already has played. but what's the worst that can happens? he turns out to suck and fails as a back-up? I'm not concerned about the floor, I'm concerned about the ceiling |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 5, 2015 1:59:27 GMT -5
I actually think Hundley with the proper coaching work ethic and scheme could be a passable NFL QB But almost every pundit called him a project and projects that play QB for the Packers join the practice squad. If Russell Wilson hasn't taught the league something it's that every job is a competition. But I'll give Hundley about a 3-5 % chance of beating out Tolzien this season the coaching ethic etc UI mentioned earlier will determine whether he has a chance in 2016 Try this story from a Packer-centric site The Packers Apparently Really Like Scott Tolzienby totalpackers.com totalpackers.com/2013/10/31/packers-apparently-really-like-scott-tolzien/
and did you check the date on that article? it says "10/31/2013" kinda out-dated right? so where are you getting your data from? you might want to change that, because what a executive (Elliot Wolf, actually) said was that they drafted Hundley to compete with Tolzien for the back-up QB position. and what some insiders have been saying is that Hundley will actually beat out Tolzien Yes I did notice that after the fact, but I'll guarantee you that unless Hundley has learned to be far more accurate than he was in college he is still a season away, minimum of beating out Tolzien This is from an article from Fox sports thought you might like to hear this part of the story Lastly, the Packers might have gotten one of the steals of the draft in tight end Kennard Backman. Analysis website ProFootballFocus gave Backman the No. 2 overall production grade among draft-eligible tight ends. Here's the story and it also talks about Hundley and Tolzien www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/qb-brett-hundley-overshadows-ilb-jake-ryan-as-green-bay-packers-conclude-2015-draft-050215 |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 5, 2015 2:15:59 GMT -5
Hundley does have a way higher ceiling than Tolzien thing is his floor is a lot lower also. There is a reason that Tolzien is still on the roster and Flynn is probably on his way to being a QB coach at a Jr College of course a draft pick's floor going to be lower than a player who already has played. but what's the worst that can happens? he turns out to suck and fails as a back-up? I'm not concerned about the floor, I'm concerned about the ceiling True but his floor is way lower of course his ceiling is much higher but his median isn't much different and Tolzien has an advantage in knowledge of scheme and personnel. As for the competing part of course they'll say that and if he does win the back up job they will be thrilled but I'm betting that they just hope that he makes good progress so that he'll be in a position to take the back up spot in 16 and they'll be more than happy with that But here's food for thought for you if Rodgers got hurt would you want the more experience player or a rookie with accuracy problems playing |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 5, 2015 2:26:50 GMT -5
Here's an excerpt from a Don Banks story When you add in that Green Bay thinks very highly of recently re-signed backup Scott Tolzien—veteran Matt Flynn remains a free agent and is no longer in the Packers’ quarterback plans—Hundley likely initially projects to Green Bay’s No. 3 developmental QB role, albeit on a team known for often carrying just two passers on its active roster. So at the moment, Hundley is more Troy Smith than Troy Aikman.www.si.com/nfl/2015/05/02/2015-nfl-draft-day-3-quarterbacks-brett-hundley-bryce-petty-packers-jets |
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Post by dyhard on May 5, 2015 23:56:32 GMT -5
and did you check the date on that article? it says "10/31/2013" kinda out-dated right? so where are you getting your data from? you might want to change that, because what a executive (Elliot Wolf, actually) said was that they drafted Hundley to compete with Tolzien for the back-up QB position. and what some insiders have been saying is that Hundley will actually beat out Tolzien Yes I did notice that after the fact, but I'll guarantee you that unless Hundley has learned to be far more accurate than he was in college he is still a season away, minimum of beating out Tolzien This is from an article from Fox sports thought you might like to hear this part of the story Lastly, the Packers might have gotten one of the steals of the draft in tight end Kennard Backman. Analysis website ProFootballFocus gave Backman the No. 2 overall production grade among draft-eligible tight ends. Here's the story and it also talks about Hundley and Tolzien www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/qb-brett-hundley-overshadows-ilb-jake-ryan-as-green-bay-packers-conclude-2015-draft-050215I honestly think Hundley is going to take over Tolzien's #2 spot. Tolzien really doesn't do anything of importance and I think Hundley is good enough to. I'm just concerned with him because he fell so far. but speaking of Backman, I really liked that pick. I hope he turns out to be very productive. they really need a TE and I'm not happy with the situation they got now. I know he won't start this season but I bet he's going to be in packages, that's for sure. honestly, I think the Packers had a really, really good draft. the re-signing of Tolzien has too much thought put into it. they didn't have a option for a back-up. it came down to Flynn or Tolzien. they liked Tolzien more and he was cheaper. so he was the obvious choice. drafting a QB was going to happen, I had a feeling. they ended up getting someone who should've gone day 1 or early day 2. same thing happened with Rodgers falling down to #24, I have a very good feeling about Hundley |
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Post by dyhard on May 5, 2015 23:59:44 GMT -5
of course a draft pick's floor going to be lower than a player who already has played. but what's the worst that can happens? he turns out to suck and fails as a back-up? I'm not concerned about the floor, I'm concerned about the ceiling True but his floor is way lower of course his ceiling is much higher but his median isn't much different and Tolzien has an advantage in knowledge of scheme and personnel. As for the competing part of course they'll say that and if he does win the back up job they will be thrilled but I'm betting that they just hope that he makes good progress so that he'll be in a position to take the back up spot in 16 and they'll be more than happy with that But here's food for thought for you if Rodgers got hurt would you want the more experience player or a rookie with accuracy problems playing right, but watch what happens to Hundley while he takes the McCarthy QB school. Hundley will be set. and he seems very smart according to the staff so I think he'll learn scheme and personnel quickly. he for sure got it for 2016, but I think he got it for 2015 and honestly, I already know what Tolzien will bring and I don't think he brings much at all, I'd rather take a chance at the rookie QB |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 6, 2015 0:21:50 GMT -5
To be honest I kinda expected the Eagles to possibly draft Hundley as Barkley never struck me as a Chip QB
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 6, 2015 23:28:00 GMT -5
Former LSU offensive tackle La’El Collins was not the father of a baby boy who passed away last week. So chances he had anything to do with the ex's demise are pretty slim
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on May 7, 2015 9:46:21 GMT -5
Former LSU offensive tackle La’El Collins was not the father of a baby boy who passed away last week. So chances he had anything to do with the ex's demise are pretty slim Someone's getting a first round calibre offensive tackle for free. Come to Dallas bro. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 10:13:22 GMT -5
Someone's getting a first round calibre offensive tackle for free. Come to Dallas bro. He probably will. |
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Post by Hubster on May 7, 2015 10:17:13 GMT -5
Former LSU offensive tackle La’El Collins was not the father of a baby boy who passed away last week. So chances he had anything to do with the ex's demise are pretty slim Someone's getting a first round calibre offensive tackle for free. Could be a bidding war. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on May 7, 2015 10:20:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 10:21:13 GMT -5
Someone's getting a first round calibre offensive tackle for free. Could be a bidding war. No bidding war. UDFA's are limited to 3-year deals - $1.5M max money. So he'll go to the team that gives him the best promise to start immediately. After 2 years he can re-negotiate, and I'm sure he's going to want the payday then that he missed out on. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on May 7, 2015 12:54:32 GMT -5
No bidding war. UDFA's are limited to 3-year deals - $1.5M max money. So he'll go to the team that gives him the best promise to start immediately. After 2 years he can re-negotiate, and I'm sure he's going to want the payday then that he missed out on. That didn't take long... Cowboys signed him. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 7, 2015 12:56:57 GMT -5
Someone's getting a first round calibre offensive tackle for free. Could be a bidding war. Not much of one A team only has so much money in their rookie pool I read somewhere that there is only 100K for UDFA's in signing bonus money I'll look it up |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 7, 2015 13:10:36 GMT -5
Not much of one A team only has so much money in their rookie pool I read somewhere that there is only 100K for UDFA's in signing bonus money I'll look it up I see Stormy already did ^^^^^^ |
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Post by Hubster on May 7, 2015 15:50:39 GMT -5
No bidding war. UDFA's are limited to 3-year deals - $1.5M max money. So he'll go to the team that gives him the best promise to start immediately. After 2 years he can re-negotiate, and I'm sure he's going to want the payday then that he missed out on. I didn't realize that . Thanks. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on May 9, 2015 9:27:57 GMT -5
Unless he intends on challenging the recently re-signed Doug Free at right tackle, he ain't ever making that big payday. Assuming he's innocent, he got screwed financially in the draft by things outside his control. However, he screwed himself financially if he's intending to play the next three years at guard. And - the Cowboys could franchise him for two more. I don't see that happening though. In 3 years, he'll get paid. |
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Post by Canuck eh? on May 10, 2015 10:05:18 GMT -5
Former LSU offensive tackle La’El Collins was not the father of a baby boy who passed away last week. So chances he had anything to do with the ex's demise are pretty slim What are the chances he's from Krypton? |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 10, 2015 17:40:45 GMT -5
Former LSU offensive tackle La’El Collins was not the father of a baby boy who passed away last week. So chances he had anything to do with the ex's demise are pretty slim What are the chances he's from Krypton? |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on May 10, 2015 17:51:24 GMT -5
No bidding war. UDFA's are limited to 3-year deals - $1.5M max money. So he'll go to the team that gives him the best promise to start immediately. After 2 years he can re-negotiate, and I'm sure he's going to want the payday then that he missed out on. He's actually will be able to outearn the lower draft choices as they sign for 4 years and he's only signed for 3 |
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