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Post by redseat on Sept 15, 2014 10:59:11 GMT -5
I bet the kid is a little brat. according to Charles Barkely the kid deserved it! |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 10:59:32 GMT -5
You think making it illegal is going to make it stop? That's working well with murderers. "dont kill someone or you'll go to jail" Of course not. That's the idiot logic that gun control people use. What it does do though, it makes normal parents, who aren't abusing their kids like Peterson is, afraid to physically discipline when it may be necessary...and there are times where it is necessary. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 11:02:22 GMT -5
The point is and was that you're alright with that...with equating simple discipline with what Peterson did. That's the issue, because that's what government has made it. i am? Seemed to be to me. "Well...that's the way it is" |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 15, 2014 11:04:24 GMT -5
So there should be no laws against anything because invariably someone will break them anyway. Is that what I'm reading?
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Post by Zig on Sept 15, 2014 11:04:26 GMT -5
The following statement is from Vikings Owners Zygi Wilf and Mark Wilf:
Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved.
To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward.
We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 11:04:47 GMT -5
Seemed to be to me. "Well...that's the way it is" well, it is the way it is i never said i agreed or disagreed you did, on my behalf |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 11:05:46 GMT -5
Of course not. That's the idiot logic that gun control people use. What it does do though, it makes normal parents, who aren't abusing their kids like Peterson is, afraid to physically discipline when it may be necessary...and there are times where it is necessary. What did his kid do, get arrested for shitting his pants? I don't know. Whatever it was he didn't deserve what Peterson did to him. The problem again is Peterson is not a normal parent. He doesn't understand the difference between discipline and abuse. The problem with government being involved is they have equated what normal parents do...discipline, with what abnormal parents do...abuse. |
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Post by redseat on Sept 15, 2014 11:05:46 GMT -5
The following statement is from Vikings Owners Zygi Wilf and Mark Wilf: Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved. To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward. We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process. Pansies! TAKE ACTION! |
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 15, 2014 11:06:24 GMT -5
So there should be no laws against anything because invariably someone will break them anyway. Is that what I'm reading? You can make all the laws you want. Doesnt mean everyone is going to abide by them. So good luck with banning "beatings". That's not going to stop people for giving them to their children. |
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 15, 2014 11:07:44 GMT -5
What did his kid do, get arrested for shitting his pants? I don't know. Whatever it was he didn't deserve what Peterson did to him. The problem again is Peterson is not a normal parent. He doesn't understand the difference between discipline and abuse. The problem with government being involved is they have equated what normal parents do...discipline, with what abnormal parents do...abuse. Did they give his son back to him? |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 11:09:21 GMT -5
So there should be no laws against anything because invariably someone will break them anyway. Is that what I'm reading? No. But you don't ban things responsible people use responsibly, such as guns or physical discipline, just because irresponsible people use them irresponsibly. Use punish irresponsible use, not responsible use. Got it yet? |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 15, 2014 11:10:33 GMT -5
So there should be no laws against anything because invariably someone will break them anyway. Is that what I'm reading? You can make all the laws you want. Doesnt mean everyone is going to abide by them. So good luck with banning "beatings". That's not going to stop people for giving them to their children. You think Peterson is going to hit his kid with a stick as much after this? He may still do it, but I bet it's a lot less frequent. |
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 15, 2014 11:11:31 GMT -5
You can make all the laws you want. Doesnt mean everyone is going to abide by them. So good luck with banning "beatings". That's not going to stop people for giving them to their children. You think Peterson is going to hit his kid with a stick as much after this? He may still do it, but I bet it's a lot less frequent. We'll never know. We can only hope it does. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 15, 2014 11:11:54 GMT -5
So there should be no laws against anything because invariably someone will break them anyway. Is that what I'm reading? No. But you don't ban things responsible people use responsibly, such as guns or physical discipline, just because irresponsible people use them irresponsibly. Use punish irresponsible use, not responsible use. Got it yet? Is there a law against spanking your children that I am unaware of? |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 11:12:31 GMT -5
I don't know. Whatever it was he didn't deserve what Peterson did to him. The problem again is Peterson is not a normal parent. He doesn't understand the difference between discipline and abuse. The problem with government being involved is they have equated what normal parents do...discipline, with what abnormal parents do...abuse. Did they give his son back to him? I don't know. Why? I'm not even talking about Peterson. I'm talking about the law and how it applies to discipline and abuse equally, and how it's bullshit |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 11:16:11 GMT -5
No. But you don't ban things responsible people use responsibly, such as guns or physical discipline, just because irresponsible people use them irresponsibly. Use punish irresponsible use, not responsible use. Got it yet? Is there a law against spanking your children that I am unaware of? Not yet. Deleware maybe. But are you denying that's where your govt wants us to be? Public school policy says otherwise. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 15, 2014 11:26:13 GMT -5
Is there a law against spanking your children that I am unaware of? Not yet. Deleware maybe. But are you denying that's where your govt wants us to be? Public school policy says otherwise. So we're all in general agreement that Petersen was wrong to beat his kid with a stick and should be punished for doing it. But we're upset that there's a law that enables the government to punish him for that because it may ensnare lesser offenders who only use their hands? (and I have no idea if this is true - I haven't read the charges he was indicted for). What's the alternative? Government has no laws protecting children from their parents and when AP's kid gets the stick we say "sucks for you?" |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 11:27:41 GMT -5
The following statement is from Vikings Owners Zygi Wilf and Mark Wilf: Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved. To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward. We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process. Translation - "If we hadn't gotten throttled by 23 points at home yesterday, we would probably have extended APs de-activation timeframe." |
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Post by The Bag on Sept 15, 2014 11:30:20 GMT -5
The following statement is from Vikings Owners Zygi Wilf and Mark Wilf: Today’s decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday’s game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved. To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward. We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian’s fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process. aka we really blow without AP, lets milk this till he's locked up. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 11:34:22 GMT -5
Not yet. Deleware maybe. But are you denying that's where your govt wants us to be? Public school policy says otherwise. So we're all in general agreement that Petersen was wrong to beat his kid with a stick and should be punished for doing it. But we're upset that there's a law that enables the government to punish him for that because it may ensnare lesser offenders who only use their hands? (and I have no idea if this is true - I haven't read the charges he was indicted for). What's the alternative? Government has no laws protecting children from their parents and when AP's kid gets the stick we say "sucks for you?" The alternative is to apply common sense in the law as opposed to a one size fits all mandate from some asshole who thinks he can raise your kids better than you can. |
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Post by redseat on Sept 15, 2014 11:37:05 GMT -5
according to Charles Barkely the kid deserved it! Charles was right about one thing is it VERY common for southerners to use a switch to disipline their kids Doesn't make it any more right or excusable |
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Post by nyr2002nyr on Sept 15, 2014 11:56:53 GMT -5
Agreed but he wasnt making that shit up. yeah but to me, he was downplaying it and defending AP Im sure he was. Was i the only one who thought it was funny that they had Ray Lewis on telling us how a professional should act on and off the field |
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Post by redseat on Sept 15, 2014 11:57:32 GMT -5
yeah but to me, he was downplaying it and defending AP Im sure he was. Was i the only one who thought it was funny that they had Ray Lewis on telling us how a professional should act on and off the field No, I can't believe they had him on... and I can't believe they had Barkely either. |
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Post by BHR on Oct 8, 2014 11:57:47 GMT -5
Adrian Peterson did not submit a plea as expected today. Prosecutors have asked that Judge Case recuse himself for calling both, Peterson's Attorney, Rusty Hardin and the prosecuters "Media Whores".
Rusty Hardin said that he wasn't offended and had been called much worse.
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Post by Zig on Oct 8, 2014 21:45:00 GMT -5
Adrian Peterson did not submit a plea as expected today. Prosecutors have asked that Judge Case recuse himself for calling both, Peterson's Attorney, Rusty Hardin and the prosecuters "Media Whores". Rusty Hardin said that he wasn't offended and had been called much worse. of course he's been called worse, he's a lawyer! |
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Post by BHR on Nov 18, 2014 9:00:16 GMT -5
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Post by BHR on Nov 18, 2014 13:02:39 GMT -5
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Post by BHR on Dec 12, 2014 17:26:57 GMT -5
AP's appeal was denied. He can't try for reinstatement until April 15
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Dec 12, 2014 17:43:48 GMT -5
AP's appeal was denied. He can't try for reinstatement until April 15 So... do the Vikings keep him? |
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Post by Zig on Dec 12, 2014 18:04:03 GMT -5
AP's appeal was denied. He can't try for reinstatement until April 15 So... do the Vikings keep him? that's the million dollar question. Last I heard they were torn. Some in the org want to keep him, some want him gone |
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