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Post by OXlodge on Sept 8, 2014 17:08:29 GMT -5
Alls it took was Carlos Quentin and Ian Kinsler to get hurt in 2008 and they handed an MVP to Dustin Pedjeter.
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Post by Chappion on Sept 8, 2014 17:09:52 GMT -5
So, VMart is having a better season than Trout DH's need not apply for the MVP. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 8, 2014 17:10:21 GMT -5
Trout is 1st in w+cr87-YT6|ô₧⌐
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 8, 2014 17:11:09 GMT -5
So, VMart is having a better season than Trout DH's need not apply for the MVP. never said he was mvp i said he was having a better season. you could argue, but you'd be wrock. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 8, 2014 17:11:37 GMT -5
He might finish top 5, I don't think it's a lock though, especially if the Tigers miss the playoffs. Abreu, Trout, and Micheal Brantley have all had better overall offensive seasons, and like you said, he's half a baseball player. And yeah, Morneau deserved it. A DH should never win unless he just blows the rest of the competition away, and his team makes the postseason. Frank Thomas should have won 7 MVPs Maybe 3 or 4 |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 17:12:12 GMT -5
DH's need not apply for the MVP. never said he was mvp i said he was having a better season. you could argue, but you'd be wrock. Wrock.... LMAO thats great |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 17:13:04 GMT -5
DHs should never win an MVP.... But man the AL is just so much better
Uuhhhh
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 8, 2014 17:13:48 GMT -5
Trout is 1st in w+cr87-YT6|ô₧⌐ You were wrong gramps.  |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 17:15:59 GMT -5
DHs should never win MVPs... But ill vote for a pitcher
Uhhhhh
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 8, 2014 17:16:58 GMT -5
DHs should never win MVPs... But ill vote for a pitcher Uhhhhh word |
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Post by Zig on Sept 8, 2014 17:21:12 GMT -5
DHs should never win MVPs... But ill vote for a pitcher Uhhhhh I'd vote for a DH before a Pitcher. Pitcher's have their own fucking award |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 8, 2014 17:21:20 GMT -5
DHs should never win MVPs... But ill vote for a pitcher Uhhhhh A starting pitcher has more control over his team's result in the game he is starting more than any other position or player in any other team sport. That being said, I don't think they should win MVP either. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 8, 2014 17:27:05 GMT -5
DHs should never win MVPs... But ill vote for a pitcher Uhhhhh A starting pitcher has more control over his team's result in the game he is starting more than any other position or player in any other team sport. That being said, I don't think they should win MVP either. More than an NHL goalie? Or a QB? Or even Lebron? A pitcher is rarely there for the last 2-3 innings of the game he starts. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 8, 2014 17:28:25 GMT -5
A starting pitcher has more control over his team's result in the game he is starting more than any other position or player in any other team sport. That being said, I don't think they should win MVP either. More than an NHL goalie? Or a QB? Or even Lebron? A pitcher is really there for the last 2-3 innings of the game he starts. Yes, yes, and yes. All of the action in baseball begins with the pitcher. All of it. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 8, 2014 17:32:24 GMT -5
More than an NHL goalie? Or a QB? Or even Lebron? A pitcher is really there for the last 2-3 innings of the game he starts. Yes, yes, and yes. All of the action in baseball begins with the pitcher. All of it. But the pitcher has zero control over his team's offense. He could pitch a gem and lose 1-0. Every play in the NFL starts with the QB. A hot goalie can carry a team to a Stanley Cup by himself. The influence of a starting pitcher has been reduced in the age of pitch counts and specialization. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 8, 2014 17:39:11 GMT -5
Yes, yes, and yes. All of the action in baseball begins with the pitcher. All of it. But the pitcher has zero control over his team's offense. He could pitch a gem and lose 1-0. Every play in the NFL starts with the QB. A hot goalie can carry a team to a Stanley Cup by himself. The influence of a starting pitcher has been reduced in the age of pitch counts and specialization. So? The starting pitcher's performance is usually the determining factor in a team's success in a given game...or at least he's the most important in giving them a chance to win. A QB hands the ball off to someone else at least 25% of the time, and is totally dependent on his teammates blocking and his receivers catching his passes. A goalie may only face 15 shots in a given game. LeBron is only scoring 25% of his team's points. If your starting pitcher is shit, far more often than not, you have no chance. A QB can ride his defense or running backs. Your typical NBA squad has someone else capable of picking up the slack for its scorer if he has an off night. The best argument IMO is the goalie, but the pitcher is the epicenter of all action in the game, so that's why I go with him. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 9, 2014 10:31:35 GMT -5
Trout and Stanton have virtually identical stats this year. Although Stanton gets on base more.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 9, 2014 10:35:56 GMT -5
Trout and Stanton have virtually identical stats this year. Although Stanton gets on base more. VMart has better stats than Trout |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 9, 2014 10:36:46 GMT -5
higher BA
higher obp
higher slg
higher ops
1/3 the strikeouts
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 9, 2014 10:38:43 GMT -5
higher BA higher obp higher slg higher ops 1/3 the strikeouts "Base running and defense are irrelevant" |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 9, 2014 10:43:51 GMT -5
higher BA higher obp higher slg higher ops 1/3 the strikeouts "Base running and defense are irrelevant" who is having a better season running the bases? being a good baserunner is more than stealing bases |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 10, 2014 16:24:16 GMT -5
Trout is the MVP
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Sept 10, 2014 16:55:19 GMT -5
prbably, but vmart has had a better year at the plate |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 13, 2014 18:27:29 GMT -5
Mike Trout, unanimous A.L MVP.
The N.L is on the clock.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:57:31 GMT -5
Trout as never in doubt, yo.
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Post by bigddude on Nov 13, 2014 18:59:05 GMT -5
Well, somebody in the L.A area is in need of a bigger trophy case.
Kershaw baby!
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Post by bigddude on Nov 13, 2014 19:02:15 GMT -5
Dodgers starter Clayton Kershaw has been named the National League’s Most Valuable Player, receiving 18 first-place votes. He is the first pitcher to win the NL MVP and the Cy Young award in the same season since Bob Gibson in 1968. He joins Sandy Koufax and Don Newcombe as Dodgers to have won both awards in the same season, and is the first Dodger to win the MVP since Kirk Gibson in 1988.
Kershaw, 26, led the league in ERA for the fourth consecutive season, but his 2014 campaign was arguably the best of his career. He finished with a 1.77 ERA and a 239/31 K/BB ratio in 198 1/3 innings, helping lead the Dodgers to another NL West title.
Marlins outfielder Giancarlo Stanton finished in second place and Pirates outfielder Andrew McCutchen finished in third place
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Nov 13, 2014 19:10:03 GMT -5
Dodgers starter Clayton Kershaw has been named the National League’s Most Valuable Player, receiving 18 first-place votes. He is the first pitcher to win the NL MVP and the Cy Young award in the same season since Bob Gibson in 1968. He joins Sandy Koufax and Don Newcombe as Dodgers to have won both awards in the same season, and is the first Dodger to win the MVP since Kirk Gibson in 1988. Kershaw, 26, led the league in ERA for the fourth consecutive season, but his 2014 campaign was arguably the best of his career. He finished with a 1.77 ERA and a 239/31 K/BB ratio in 198 1/3 innings, helping lead the Dodgers to another NL West title. Marlins outfielder Giancarlo Stanton finished in second place and Pirates outfielder Andrew McCutchen finished in third place The board illuminati tried to tell me that pitchers that don't make it to 200 IP don't win the Cy Young let alone the Cy Young and the MVP. Another exception to the rule. |
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Post by bigddude on Nov 13, 2014 19:14:26 GMT -5
Dodgers starter Clayton Kershaw has been named the National League’s Most Valuable Player, receiving 18 first-place votes. He is the first pitcher to win the NL MVP and the Cy Young award in the same season since Bob Gibson in 1968. He joins Sandy Koufax and Don Newcombe as Dodgers to have won both awards in the same season, and is the first Dodger to win the MVP since Kirk Gibson in 1988. Kershaw, 26, led the league in ERA for the fourth consecutive season, but his 2014 campaign was arguably the best of his career. He finished with a 1.77 ERA and a 239/31 K/BB ratio in 198 1/3 innings, helping lead the Dodgers to another NL West title. Marlins outfielder Giancarlo Stanton finished in second place and Pirates outfielder Andrew McCutchen finished in third place The board illuminati tried to tell me that pitchers that don't make it to 200 IP don't win the Cy Young let alone the Cy Young and the MVP. Another exception to the rule. Exceptions made when you blow away the field. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Nov 13, 2014 20:40:43 GMT -5
vmart took 2nd
sucks being right all the time
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