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Post by OXlodge on Sept 8, 2014 9:29:38 GMT -5
It would also be everyone else's fault, not Brady's.
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Post by The Bag on Sept 8, 2014 9:30:53 GMT -5
Luck is just so awesome IMO Bradshaw is clearly the better back on that team Nicks can be a huge pickup But damn, just don't see how that defense isn't their downfall I watch the entire game and I thought that Andrew Luck looked pretty good last night too. But let's be honest.... If that were Tom Brady? You would be murdering him here today for that awful interception in the first half and the failed drive at the end of the 4th if brady played like that, the pats would be 1-0 right now. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Sept 8, 2014 9:31:26 GMT -5
It would also be everyone else's fault, not Brady's. Like Coby Fleener? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:31:47 GMT -5
Im real high on the Colts ... honestly think we just watched the AFC Championship game last night. Philly wont win that game Luck is just so awesome IMO Bradshaw is clearly the better back on that team Nicks can be a huge pickup But damn, just don't see how that defense isn't their downfall Luck and his OC need to start figuring out defensive schemes quicker. He falls behhind early way too often. He won't an upper tier QB until he gets smarter. |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 9:32:17 GMT -5
Pats fans
Question on Moreno.
Did he look good or was it the Pats D? Also, was he the clear cut starter? Not sure if i should be taking him off my bench or not just yet.
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:32:54 GMT -5
I've never bashed Brady for a 376 yard performance and a 27 point comeback that would have been completed if Coby Fleener didn't suck I bash Brady for being exactly who he is, the guy we saw yesterday if Brady had played that exact same game last night? You would be hammering the failed 4th quarter drive at the end. You would be hammering that first half interception that he threw into double coverage. And you would be absolutely demolishing him for those two third quarter 1st and goal situations where they only walked away with 3.. You would be talking about how his yardage and touchdowns were all garbage time. And you would be calling for a change at quarterback. I really don't want to argue with you dirt but let's be honest you know that is exactly what would be happening I haven't said a word about Brady today. He's just not very good, and in my entire history I have never bashed Brady for a game in which he almost threw for 400 yards on the road against the best team in the conference. Luck is far from perfect but he has an X factor that never has that Colts team out of a game |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Sept 8, 2014 9:33:54 GMT -5
Pats fans Question on Moreno. Did he look good or was it the Pats D? Also, was he the clear cut starter? Not sure if i should be taking him off my bench or not just yet. both. The Dolphins just wanted it more on both sides of the ball yesterday. But no Sean Marino absolutely ran angry and ran hard |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:34:07 GMT -5
Luck is just so awesome IMO Bradshaw is clearly the better back on that team Nicks can be a huge pickup But damn, just don't see how that defense isn't their downfall Luck and his OC need to start figuring out defensive schemes quicker. He falls behhind early way too often. He won't an upper tier QB until he gets smarter. I agree with that. The first half Luck and second half Luck are night and day |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:34:03 GMT -5
As great QBs in the NFL go, there is Brady/Brees/PManning/Rogers, and then there is everyone else. Those four are the elite, in a class of their own.
And I'd just like to point out that Russell Wilson is a combined 6-0 against those four guys.
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 8, 2014 9:34:29 GMT -5
Sherman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Revis
Not even close.
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:34:55 GMT -5
Pats fans Question on Moreno. Did he look good or was it the Pats D? Also, was he the clear cut starter? Not sure if i should be taking him off my bench or not just yet. Miller looked good too Think they both continue to touch it, worked perfectly yesterday |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:35:37 GMT -5
As great QBs in the NFL go, there is Brady/Brees/PManning/Rogers, and then there is everyone else. Those four are the elite, in a class of their own. And I'd just like to point out that Russell Wilson is a combined 6-0 against those four guys. Couldn't dis-agree more |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 8, 2014 9:36:30 GMT -5
It would also be everyone else's fault, not Brady's. Like Coby Fleener? He looked pretty terrible. That one easy TD catch on the left side where he jumped early...pathetic |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 9:36:40 GMT -5
Pats fans Question on Moreno. Did he look good or was it the Pats D? Also, was he the clear cut starter? Not sure if i should be taking him off my bench or not just yet. both. The Dolphins just wanted it more on both sides of the ball yesterday. But no Sean Marino absolutely ran angry and ran hard Excellent ... I hope I can rely on this guy. 2nd RB is basically my only weak spot. Its either him or Spiller or steven jackson every week for that spot |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:38:10 GMT -5
Sherman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Revis Not even close. on the one side of the field sherman can play, you may have an argument. seeing as how revis gets every teams #1, and sherman gets who lines up on his side of the field...well, i wont explain common sense any further. |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 9:38:21 GMT -5
As great QBs in the NFL go, there is Brady/Brees/PManning/Rogers, and then there is everyone else. Those four are the elite, in a class of their own. And I'd just like to point out that Russell Wilson is a combined 6-0 against those four guys. Couldn't dis-agree more I think you're a little too harsh on Brady but I think Luck enters that group by seasons end. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:38:49 GMT -5
He looked pretty terrible. That one easy TD catch on the left side where he jumped early...pathetic Pathetic And I own Dwayne Allen Catches a 41 yard TD, doesn't see the field after that. Fleener has a ball go off his tips for a killer INT. |
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 8, 2014 9:38:54 GMT -5
"Revis doesn't need help in zone coverage, he's that good, unless someone scores on him, than it's someone else's fault" only 2 people yesterday kept saying that play was zone coverage me snoogins now today its zone? wtf? He got scored on. That's it. Just leave it at that. Even if (who was it Arrington) who had that "oh shit" moment, no reason Mike Wallace should be scoring like that with Revis all over him like a fly on dog shit. Stop blaming someone else because Revis got beat on a tough play. Takes balls to throw in that guys direction. Case in point, Rodgers never threw Sherman's way once. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:39:38 GMT -5
I think you're a little too harsh on Brady but I think Luck enters that group by seasons end. I'm not You'll all catch on |
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Post by Zig on Sept 8, 2014 9:41:41 GMT -5
Pats fans Question on Moreno. Did he look good or was it the Pats D? Also, was he the clear cut starter? Not sure if i should be taking him off my bench or not just yet. Miller(their other RB) fumbled early and then it was mostly Moreno from there. Moreno is a decent but it was more their o-line dominated the Pats D-line I see the Fins RB situation almost the same as the Pats...2 guys will split time, the "hot hand" getting more work that game |
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 8, 2014 9:41:37 GMT -5
Wait till Revis holds the Patriots hostage for a new contract. That will be fun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:42:05 GMT -5
only 2 people yesterday kept saying that play was zone coverage me snoogins now today its zone? wtf? He got scored on. That's it. Just leave it at that. Even if (who was it Arrington) who had that "oh shit" moment, no reason Mike Wallace should be scoring like that with Revis all over him like a fly on dog shit. Stop blaming someone else because Revis got beat on a tough play. Takes balls to throw in that guys direction. Case in point, Rodgers never threw Sherman's way once. arrington shit his pants, didnt help in his part of the zone coverage (saw this said on nfl network yesterday too) |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 9:43:02 GMT -5
Sherman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Revis Not even close. on the one side of the field sherman can play, you may have an argument. seeing as how revis gets every teams #1, and sherman gets who lines up on his side of the field...well, i wont explain common sense any further. I disagree with that logic completely Sherman is the best CB in the league in the scheme he plays in. Thats all there is to it, nobody knows what he would look like in another system. This is basically the Brady argument, except youre on the other side of it this time. Brady was the best QB in the league at one point, a lot of that had to do with the system he played in - it maximized his strengths. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:43:17 GMT -5
Pats fans Question on Moreno. Did he look good or was it the Pats D? Also, was he the clear cut starter? Not sure if i should be taking him off my bench or not just yet. Miller(their other RB) fumbled early and then it was mostly Moreno from there. Moreno is a decent but it was more their o-line dominated the Pats D-line I see the Fins RB situation almost the same as the Pats...2 guys will split time, the "hot hand" getting more work that game Agreed and Moreno prob has a chip on his shoulder about hearing all summer how he was a product of Manning |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 9:43:39 GMT -5
Pats fans Question on Moreno. Did he look good or was it the Pats D? Also, was he the clear cut starter? Not sure if i should be taking him off my bench or not just yet. Miller(their other RB) fumbled early and then it was mostly Moreno from there. Moreno is a decent but it was more their o-line dominated the Pats D-line I see the Fins RB situation almost the same as the Pats...2 guys will split time, the "hot hand" getting more work that game So wait and see ... uugghhh |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:44:29 GMT -5
brady is now 6-7 career in miami
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 8, 2014 9:44:42 GMT -5
on the one side of the field sherman can play, you may have an argument. seeing as how revis gets every teams #1, and sherman gets who lines up on his side of the field...well, i wont explain common sense any further. I disagree with that logic completely Sherman is the best CB in the league in the scheme he plays in. Thats all there is to it, nobody knows what he would look like in another system. This is basically the Brady argument, except youre on the other side of it this time. Brady was the best QB in the league at one point, a lot of that had to do with the system he played in - it maximized his strengths. Follow the best receiver or take away half the field? They choose to take away half the field and they are the best defense and team in football Why fix it |
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 8, 2014 9:45:27 GMT -5
He got scored on. That's it. Just leave it at that. Even if (who was it Arrington) who had that "oh shit" moment, no reason Mike Wallace should be scoring like that with Revis all over him like a fly on dog shit. Stop blaming someone else because Revis got beat on a tough play. Takes balls to throw in that guys direction. Case in point, Rodgers never threw Sherman's way once. arrington shit his pants, didnt help in his part of the zone coverage (saw this said on nfl network yesterday too) Revis isn't the same guy he was with the Jets. Doesn't mean he's still not elite. But teams are going to throw at him more than they used to than say they will Sherman. Sherman is just more athletic and physically gifted. Sherman has better help in certain schemes, the Patriots are going to rely on Revis to shut down one half of the field, and I think that's going to hurt them. If they went all in for the 2009-2010 version of Revis, that's a big mistake on their part. |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 8, 2014 9:46:06 GMT -5
I disagree with that logic completely Sherman is the best CB in the league in the scheme he plays in. Thats all there is to it, nobody knows what he would look like in another system. This is basically the Brady argument, except youre on the other side of it this time. Brady was the best QB in the league at one point, a lot of that had to do with the system he played in - it maximized his strengths. Follow the best receiver or take away half the field? They choose to take away half the field and they are the best defense and team in football Why fix it oh i agree completely with that ... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:46:38 GMT -5
I disagree with that logic completely Sherman is the best CB in the league in the scheme he plays in. Thats all there is to it, nobody knows what he would look like in another system. This is basically the Brady argument, except youre on the other side of it this time. Brady was the best QB in the league at one point, a lot of that had to do with the system he played in - it maximized his strengths. Follow the best receiver or take away half the field? They choose to take away half the field and they are the best defense and team in football Why fix it what they do works, never argued that but as has been said by others here, if you dont get everyones number 1, how do you know youre the best CB? how can it be said? it cant its unquantifiable |
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