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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 8:11:43 GMT -5
You said that about Bryce Harper and now there are rumours he will be sent to AAA said it last year he's overjetered and he'd be getting the Bogaerts treatment if he was on the World Champions I agreed, the worst thing he has going for him is he came up with Trout, and it was the Bird Magic treatment, and we see who became Bird and who is becoming Tree Rollins |
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 7, 2014 8:12:13 GMT -5
You said that about Bryce Harper and now there are rumours he will be sent to AAA said it last year he's overjetered and he'd be getting the Bogaerts treatment if he was on the World Champions the Sox and Yanks GM's would chop their nuts off to land Harper ... as bad as he's been ... the last 28 days he's still got .729 OPS ... and he's only 21. and Stanton might be the MVP of the NL right now ... its really not even close to the same thing Ok really going to work now |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 8:13:37 GMT -5
said it last year he's overjetered and he'd be getting the Bogaerts treatment if he was on the World Champions the Sox and Yanks GM's would chop their nuts off to land Harper ... as bad as he's been ... the last 28 days he's still got .729 OPS ... and he's only 21. and Stanton might be the MVP of the NL right now ... its really not even close to the same thing Ok really going to work now Stanton does still have great numbers, I just dont know how...The guy literally strikes out 3 times every game.... |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Aug 7, 2014 8:14:10 GMT -5
said it last year he's overjetered and he'd be getting the Bogaerts treatment if he was on the World Champions I agreed, the worst thing he has going for him is he came up with Trout, and it was the Bird Magic treatment, and we see who became Bird and who is becoming Tree Rollins still young enough to turn it around but he's never had a great year has he even won a player of the month? Anything that he has shown since being a big leaguer that makes you think he's going to be special? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 8:15:58 GMT -5
I agreed, the worst thing he has going for him is he came up with Trout, and it was the Bird Magic treatment, and we see who became Bird and who is becoming Tree Rollins still young enough to turn it around but he's never had a great year has he even won a player of the month? Anything that he has shown since being a big leaguer that makes you think he's going to be special? I dont even like the way he looks....You know how you guys watch Boegarts and see some things in his swing that makes you think he will be good? I watch Harper, and I see this awful uppercut swing with a million holes in it |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Aug 7, 2014 8:21:04 GMT -5
still young enough to turn it around but he's never had a great year has he even won a player of the month? Anything that he has shown since being a big leaguer that makes you think he's going to be special? I dont even like the way he looks....You know how you guys watch Boegarts and see some things in his swing that makes you think he will be good? I watch Harper, and I see this awful uppercut swing with a million holes in it damn, was going to say the same thing don't like his swing at all said last year that manny machado would be a better player than harper got blasted for that too soon to tell |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 8:25:01 GMT -5
I dont even like the way he looks....You know how you guys watch Boegarts and see some things in his swing that makes you think he will be good? I watch Harper, and I see this awful uppercut swing with a million holes in it damn, was going to say the same thing don't like his swing at all said last year that manny machado would be a better player than harper got blasted for that too soon to tell Yeah, Machado getting better and better with the bat, I notice now he is in the middle of everything with the O's |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 8:26:12 GMT -5
Nationals manager Matt Williams said during Wednesday's pregame meeting with the media that outfielder Bryce Harper would not be sent to the minors in the midst of his struggles at the plate, masnsports.com reports.
"Bryce Harper is one of the guys on our team," Williams said. "He's a very important part of our team, just like everybody else is. Do we understand each other? It's not fair to the kid, it's not fair to the rest of the guys in that clubhouse to even think about sending Bryce Harper to the minor leagues to cause a stir. It's unacceptable. It won't happen. Is that good enough for you? Next? Thanks."
Harper has hit just .214 with two home runs and five RBI in 30 games since returning from the disabled list in late June.
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Post by The Bag on Aug 7, 2014 8:51:14 GMT -5
yea i dont get the stanton hype also. strikes out at worse than ryan howard rates. jesus christ ... i cant go another day arguing with you Im going to work now the hype = trading the farm to get him. obviously he is a guy teams want, but i dont see him being AS BIG as everyone makes him out to be. |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 7, 2014 8:55:20 GMT -5
jesus christ ... i cant go another day arguing with you Im going to work now You said that about Bryce Harper and now there are rumours he will be sent to AAA he's still furious i pointed out how much of a flop hamels is against legitimate mlb players so he is deseperate to argue something else. i am a harper fan, but he is another guy who hasnt lived up to the hype. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 9:11:39 GMT -5
just heard a report that towards the end of June the Red Sox approached Jon Lester saying that they would be willing to talk about Homer Bailey type deal. They said that Lester's agent that they were looking for a Cole Hamels type deal. To which the Red Sox said they couldn't do that and that's when they got serious about trading him. Can somebody post the particulars of each contract for me?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 9:14:05 GMT -5
damn, was going to say the same thing don't like his swing at all said last year that manny machado would be a better player than harper got blasted for that too soon to tell Yeah, Machado getting better and better with the bat, I notice now he is in the middle of everything with the O's Well he really have stepped up lately. Especially since Cruz decided he doesn't like hitting anymore.. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 7, 2014 9:14:36 GMT -5
You said that about Bryce Harper and now there are rumours he will be sent to AAA he's still furious i pointed out how much of a flop hamels is against legitimate mlb players so he is deseperate to argue something else. i am a harper fan, but he is another guy who hasnt lived up to the hype. he is young elite right-handed power in a league that really does not have very much of it. When you later in the fact that he plays for the Marlins in the Marlins trade away everybody? There is where you're getting all of the talk all of the time. |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 7, 2014 9:15:07 GMT -5
Cole Hamels: 6/144
Signing bonus: $6 million
2013: $19.5 million
2014: $22.5 million
2015: $22.5 million
2016: $22.5 million
2017: $22.5 million
2018: $22.5 million
2019: $19 million option or $6 million buyout
Homer Baily 6/105 with a mutual $25 million option in the 7th year.
2014: $9 million, 2015: $10 million, 2016: $18 million, 2017: $19 million, 2018: $21 million, 2019: $23 million, 2020: Free Agent
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 9:15:52 GMT -5
just heard a report that towards the end of June the Red Sox approached Jon Lester saying that they would be willing to talk about Homer Bailey type deal. They said that Lester's agent that they were looking for a Cole Hamels type deal. To which the Red Sox said they couldn't do that and that's when they got serious about trading him. Can somebody post the particulars of each contract for me? heard that on the way home last night |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 9:16:22 GMT -5
jesus christ ... i cant go another day arguing with you Im going to work now the hype = trading the farm to get him. obviously he is a guy teams want, but i dont see him being AS BIG as everyone makes him out to be. Ryan Howard WAS one of the best offensive players in the game during his prime. He sucks a lot of cocks now, but lets not get that confused.. Also unlike Howard, Stanton is damn good defender with a great arm.. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 9:25:51 GMT -5
just heard a report that towards the end of June the Red Sox approached Jon Lester saying that they would be willing to talk about Homer Bailey type deal. They said that Lester's agent that they were looking for a Cole Hamels type deal. To which the Red Sox said they couldn't do that and that's when they got serious about trading him. Can somebody post the particulars of each contract for me? I cant figure why if he was to have a great postseason, he wouldnt demand the highest pitching contract in the game, outside of Kershaw |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Aug 7, 2014 9:36:02 GMT -5
just heard a report that towards the end of June the Red Sox approached Jon Lester saying that they would be willing to talk about Homer Bailey type deal. They said that Lester's agent that they were looking for a Cole Hamels type deal. To which the Red Sox said they couldn't do that and that's when they got serious about trading him. Can somebody post the particulars of each contract for me? I cant figure why if he was to have a great postseason, he wouldnt demand the highest pitching contract in the game, outside of Kershaw maybe because he is only as good as CJ Wilson? |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 7, 2014 9:36:41 GMT -5
he's still furious i pointed out how much of a flop hamels is against legitimate mlb players so he is deseperate to argue something else. i am a harper fan, but he is another guy who hasnt lived up to the hype. he is young elite right-handed power in a league that really does not have very much of it. When you later in the fact that he plays for the Marlins in the Marlins trade away everybody? There is where you're getting all of the talk all of the time. i understand he is good, and i understand he has power. i dont get ALLLLL the hype on him. i see those consistent strikeout totals and they concern me. 189k/season is ALOT. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 9:38:26 GMT -5
I cant figure why if he was to have a great postseason, he wouldnt demand the highest pitching contract in the game, outside of Kershaw maybe because he is only as good as CJ Wilson? LOL The proof is in the Pudding..........All thats missing for a massive mega-deal, is one more solid postseason, for which he is absolutely set up for, and I dont even know if he needs that.....CC got a massive contract off an awful postseason |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 9:39:22 GMT -5
he is young elite right-handed power in a league that really does not have very much of it. When you later in the fact that he plays for the Marlins in the Marlins trade away everybody? There is where you're getting all of the talk all of the time. i understand he is good, and i understand he has power. i dont get ALLLLL the hype on him. i see those consistent strikeout totals and they concern me. 189k/season is ALOT. 130 now 200 not out of the question I own him in fantasy, which you love, but it makes me keep a close eye on him, and every night its 3 fucking K's with the occasional dinger |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 7, 2014 9:40:46 GMT -5
the hype = trading the farm to get him. obviously he is a guy teams want, but i dont see him being AS BIG as everyone makes him out to be. Ryan Howard WAS one of the best offensive players in the game during his prime. He sucks a lot of cocks now, but lets not get that confused.. Also unlike Howard, Stanton is damn good defender with a great arm.. 2006? sure. the next you years he hit over 40 homers, but hit .268 and .251 and struck out almost 400 times. boom or bust like crazy. and ever since his numbers have gone down, his injuries up. we usually assume those guys did steroids, right? or does that only apply to yankees or red sox players? howard is garbage. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 9:40:59 GMT -5
he is young elite right-handed power in a league that really does not have very much of it. When you later in the fact that he plays for the Marlins in the Marlins trade away everybody? There is where you're getting all of the talk all of the time. i understand he is good, and i understand he has power. i dont get ALLLLL the hype on him. i see those consistent strikeout totals and they concern me. 189k/season is ALOT. While career wise Trout has been better, I should point out this year: Trout 24.3 K rate Stanton: 26.4 K rate Ks's have been on the rise all over the MLB for the past 5-7 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 9:45:25 GMT -5
Ryan Howard WAS one of the best offensive players in the game during his prime. He sucks a lot of cocks now, but lets not get that confused.. Also unlike Howard, Stanton is damn good defender with a great arm.. 2006? sure. the next you years he hit over 40 homers, but hit .268 and .251 and struck out almost 400 times. boom or bust like crazy. and ever since his numbers have gone down, his injuries up. we usually assume those guys did steroids, right? or does that only apply to yankees or red sox players? howard is garbage. Before he turned 30 he was great. Age 25-29: .962 OPS 143 OPS+. Don't get stuck on just BA here.. But anyways, Howard didn't even really break out until like 25. Stanton is 24 and has already been very relevant power hitter. |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 7, 2014 9:46:01 GMT -5
i understand he is good, and i understand he has power. i dont get ALLLLL the hype on him. i see those consistent strikeout totals and they concern me. 189k/season is ALOT. 130 now 200 not out of the question I own him in fantasy, which you love, but it makes me keep a close eye on him, and every night its 3 fucking K's with the occasional dinger baseball reference has him as 189 per 162 game season. |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 7, 2014 9:48:46 GMT -5
i understand he is good, and i understand he has power. i dont get ALLLLL the hype on him. i see those consistent strikeout totals and they concern me. 189k/season is ALOT. While career wise Trout has been better, I should point out this year: Trout 24.3 K rate Stanton: 26.4 K rate Ks's have been on the rise all over the MLB for the past 5-7 years. trout is 155/season, stanton 189/season. trout also hits better, gets on base better, steals way more (trouts worst season stealing >> stanton's best season). granted even being in a discussion wth trout means alot, but there's jsut something with stanton that keeps me from being big on him. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 7, 2014 9:49:16 GMT -5
i understand he is good, and i understand he has power. i dont get ALLLLL the hype on him. i see those consistent strikeout totals and they concern me. 189k/season is ALOT. While career wise Trout has been better, I should point out this year: Trout 24.3 K rate Stanton: 26.4 K rate Ks's have been on the rise all over the MLB for the past 5-7 years. Are you witnessing the magic in the Bronx? |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 7, 2014 9:52:02 GMT -5
2006? sure. the next you years he hit over 40 homers, but hit .268 and .251 and struck out almost 400 times. boom or bust like crazy. and ever since his numbers have gone down, his injuries up. we usually assume those guys did steroids, right? or does that only apply to yankees or red sox players? howard is garbage. Before he turned 30 he was great. Age 25-29: .962 OPS 143 OPS+. Don't get stuck on just BA here.. But anyways, Howard didn't even really break out until like 25. Stanton is 24 and has already been very relevant power hitter. with howard, i just didnt like what i saw when i wartched him. he didnt pass the eye test. i saw a guy who was going to boom or bust until people figured him out. now, throw him low and away. he will wiff or look at it. he's awful now. i was right, like usual :-) |
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 7, 2014 9:52:48 GMT -5
2006? sure. the next you years he hit over 40 homers, but hit .268 and .251 and struck out almost 400 times. boom or bust like crazy. and ever since his numbers have gone down, his injuries up. we usually assume those guys did steroids, right? or does that only apply to yankees or red sox players? howard is garbage. Before he turned 30 he was great. Age 25-29: .962 OPS 143 OPS+. Don't get stuck on just BA here.. But anyways, Howard didn't even really break out until like 25. Stanton is 24 and has already been very relevant power hitter. why are you wasting your time .... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 9:55:10 GMT -5
While career wise Trout has been better, I should point out this year: Trout 24.3 K rate Stanton: 26.4 K rate Ks's have been on the rise all over the MLB for the past 5-7 years. trout is 155/season, stanton 189/season. trout also hits better, gets on base better, steals way more (trouts worst season stealing >> stanton's best season). granted even being in a discussion wth trout means alot, but there's jsut something with stanton that keeps me from being big on him. Well I wasn't saying Stanton was a trout... Just pointing out K'ing a lot happens more often than it used to around the MLB because pitchers have been getting better (and the whole post steroid thing) |
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