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Post by Chappion on Sept 24, 2014 18:13:41 GMT -5
Correct. Because the Sox will have a full season of Cespedes and a lot of new pieces. Meanwhile the Yankees have the same shitty lineup they used this year. Make sense? Right... its illegal for cashman to make a move this off-season.. Who could have forgotten? I was asking Paydirt about this. What can Cashman do? The middle of the order is set with Beltran, McCann, ARod and Teixiera. They need a SS and a DH, I suppose. So they sign Victor Martinez or Nelson Cruz? It's hard for them to sign a full-time DH with so many old bodies in need of rotating into that slot. You think they pay Hanley to play SS? He's more of a 3B at this point anyway. Then you have ARod to slot somewhere. |
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Post by Zig on Sept 24, 2014 18:20:56 GMT -5
Mark Teixeira needs to stop talking
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The Yankees first baseman continues to open up his big mouth and say something stupid and it needs to stop
He's done it again. Mark Teixeira has opened his mouth and said something stupid:
Teixeira says he's probably not a 150-game-a-year player anymore #Yankees
— Brendan Kuty (@brendankutynj) September 22, 2014
After suffering through the amount of injuries that Mark Teixeira has this year, it might be true, but it's still not something fans want to hear, especially from someone also hitting only .177/.278/.287 in the second half. Teixeira hasn't reached 150 games since 2011 and he won't even reach 130 with only a week to go and an injury list this long:
It's mostly been the wrist, but it hasn't only been the wrist. He's getting older and his body isn't holding up like it used to. That's all true, but when you don't really have much going for you anymore, it's best to take a page out of the Derek Jeter Media Guide Handbook and just give some generic answers and say nothing. Instead, he's being stupidly honest and it's coming off like he's accepted his career trajectory and threw up a big ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on the year and the remainder of his career. It's annoying, honestly. This isn't even the first time he's come out and said something like this.
Back in the offseason, he said some eyebrow-raising stuff, like how it's all down hill from here and that he's not worth the money he makes:
I have no problem with anybody in New York, any fan, saying you're overpaid. Because I am. We all are.
When the season started, he claimed that he'd never physically be the same again after undergoing surgery:
It's never going to be normal. (There will be) a new normal and hopefully it will get stronger. We'll see what that new normal is. Is it hitting the ball in the second row instead of the fifth? Hopefully that's what it is.
Which also led to this gem and the popular PSA Baby Wrist meme:
I'm never going to be the way I was out of the womb. People are like, 'You had surgery, so now you're normal.' It's like, no, that's exactly why you're not normal.
That's extremely, extremely literal and slightly insane to hear from a grown man. It also sounds like an excuse. Here's another he made just last week:
Look, this year was not a year, health-wise, that I was happy about. So (a full offseason training program) will keep me healthier and that's going to improve performance, no doubt.
He claims that a full offseason of training will make it less likely that he will pull a hamstring in August. He's officially lost me now that he's changed his story. Shaun already touched upon this, but it bears repeating: You're just getting old.
It seems that Mark Teixeira has become increasingly more outspoken about being terrible the worse his contract looks. Sometimes it's ok to say nothing. It's ok to emulate Derek Jeter during a media scrum. Teixeira isn't lying, he isn't making stuff up, but he needs to stop talking. Someone needs to advise him that nobody wants to hear the crushing reality that he sucks, he's going to get older and worse, and his contract is going to be stupid. Especially when he's using that reality as some kind of bizarre excuse. We all already know these things, don't rub it in our faces. It's no wonder his Foul Territory videos have become increasingly less endearing the less games he plays and the lower his batting line falls.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 18:26:10 GMT -5
Right... its illegal for cashman to make a move this off-season.. Who could have forgotten? I was asking Paydirt about this. What can Cashman do? The middle of the order is set with Beltran, McCann, ARod and Teixiera. They need a SS and a DH, I suppose. So they sign Victor Martinez or Nelson Cruz? It's hard for them to sign a full-time DH with so many old bodies in need of rotating into that slot. You think they pay Hanley to play SS? He's more of a 3B at this point anyway. Then you have ARod to slot somewhere. But what exactly is going to be different about the Sox lineup. Other than more Castillo and figuring out who they want at 3B. They could sign V-Mart. He can still play 1B in a pinch. Since Teix is probably going to get hurt again. Now, I don't think they will be the one to sign V-Mart...but they certainly could. Only guys that may really need DH time is Beltran and Tex...McCann would just get that extra day off...like most catchers. A Rod might not even be on the team.. |
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Post by Zig on Sept 24, 2014 18:30:47 GMT -5
gonna be a very interesting off season for the Sox/Yanks rivalry. 2 dumbass outfits trying to be the lesser of 2 dumbasses  |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 24, 2014 18:36:47 GMT -5
Remember when Dirt blamed Adrian Gonzalez for part of the September 2011 collapse, even though Adrian hit: .318/.455/.523/.977 that month? check this out
Since the allstar break
Derek Jeter .230/.272/.296/.568
Brett Gardner .221/.292/.427/.719
Jacoby Ellsbury .255//298/.450/.748
Mark Teixeira .179/.277/.292/.569
"heart and guts"
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Post by Chappion on Sept 24, 2014 18:53:36 GMT -5
I was asking Paydirt about this. What can Cashman do? The middle of the order is set with Beltran, McCann, ARod and Teixiera. They need a SS and a DH, I suppose. So they sign Victor Martinez or Nelson Cruz? It's hard for them to sign a full-time DH with so many old bodies in need of rotating into that slot. You think they pay Hanley to play SS? He's more of a 3B at this point anyway. Then you have ARod to slot somewhere. But what exactly is going to be different about the Sox lineup. Other than more Castillo and figuring out who they want at 3B. They could sign V-Mart. He can still play 1B in a pinch. Since Teix is probably going to get hurt again. Now, I don't think they will be the one to sign V-Mart...but they certainly could. Only guys that may really need DH time is Beltran and Tex...McCann would just get that extra day off...like most catchers. A Rod might not even be on the team.. ARod is on the damn team. He's under contract, and everything. The Yankees can give him $60m to go away, but it's a better investment to actually let him play instead. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 24, 2014 19:02:54 GMT -5
Remember when Dirt blamed Adrian Gonzalez for part of the September 2011 collapse, even though Adrian hit: .318/.455/.523/.977 that month? check this out Since the allstar break Derek Jeter .230/.272/.296/.568 Brett Gardner .221/.292/.427/.719 Jacoby Ellsbury .255//298/.450/.748 Mark Teixeira .179/.277/.292/.569 "heart and guts" "accountability" |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 19:39:00 GMT -5
But what exactly is going to be different about the Sox lineup. Other than more Castillo and figuring out who they want at 3B. They could sign V-Mart. He can still play 1B in a pinch. Since Teix is probably going to get hurt again. Now, I don't think they will be the one to sign V-Mart...but they certainly could. Only guys that may really need DH time is Beltran and Tex...McCann would just get that extra day off...like most catchers. A Rod might not even be on the team.. ARod is on the damn team. He's under contract, and everything. The Yankees can give him $60m to go away, but it's a better investment to actually let him play instead. ...good now tell me again what is going to be different about the Sox's lineup other than Castillo? |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 24, 2014 19:53:05 GMT -5
ARod is on the damn team. He's under contract, and everything. The Yankees can give him $60m to go away, but it's a better investment to actually let him play instead. ...good now tell me again what is going to be different about the Sox's lineup other than Castillo? Betts there from Opening Day. He's the leadoff guy next year. A full season of Cespedes, as well. Definitely Castillo(although I am not sure if he's any good). They can acquire a 1b and trade Napoli? They will def be looking for a 3B. Maybe Sandoval?? They probably trade Victorino, as well? Napoli and Victorino would both be in a walk year, so the Sox could eat money and move them. They could look at a catcher on a short deal. Hopefully it works out better than Pierzynski did. They have a lot of prospects if they want to trade. They should be busy this offseason. I think the only guys in the lineup for sure next year are Ortiz, Cespedes, Pedroia and Betts. That's a lot of flexibility. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 24, 2014 20:04:22 GMT -5
...good now tell me again what is going to be different about the Sox's lineup other than Castillo? Betts there from Opening Day. He's the leadoff guy next year. A full season of Cespedes, as well. Definitely Castillo(although I am not sure if he's any good). They can acquire a 1b and trade Napoli? They will def be looking for a 3B. Maybe Sandoval?? They probably trade Victorino, as well? Napoli and Victorino would both be in a walk year, so the Sox could eat money and move them. They could look at a catcher on a short deal. Hopefully it works out better than Pierzynski did. They have a lot of prospects if they want to trade. They should be busy this offseason. I think the only guys in the lineup for sure next year are Ortiz, Cespedes, Pedroia and Betts. That's a lot of flexibility. What do they do with Craig. He's valueless now and locked up through 2017 (ugh). His contract looked great at the start of the season but now looks like a mini Teixeira. (5.5 next year, 9 in 2016, 11 in 2017). I think they have to play him and hope he gets hot for a month or two and then unload his ass to anyone who will take him as a change of scenery guy. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 20:13:32 GMT -5
...good now tell me again what is going to be different about the Sox's lineup other than Castillo? Betts there from Opening Day. He's the leadoff guy next year. A full season of Cespedes, as well. Definitely Castillo(although I am not sure if he's any good). They can acquire a 1b and trade Napoli? They will def be looking for a 3B. Maybe Sandoval?? They probably trade Victorino, as well? Napoli and Victorino would both be in a walk year, so the Sox could eat money and move them. They could look at a catcher on a short deal. Hopefully it works out better than Pierzynski did. They have a lot of prospects if they want to trade. They should be busy this offseason. I think the only guys in the lineup for sure next year are Ortiz, Cespedes, Pedroia and Betts. That's a lot of flexibility. You realize the Sox offense has still been sup-par since Cespedes and Betts have joined, right? I'll give you it should get better if Peddy/Cespedes/Ortiz/Betts/Vic/Napoli are all in the same lineup. Its better. You can play the "if everyone is healthy" card if you like.. but I won't buy it.. Given the injury history of that lineup overall. I'm not really sure why you think they should trade Napoli. He only has 1 year left at 16M. Why bother? 16M cuts into his trade value.. All I hear is flexibility...Ok. Does that mean they will actually do anything? Given some the brittle nature of those players. I'd rather have the depth.. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 24, 2014 22:49:07 GMT -5
Betts there from Opening Day. He's the leadoff guy next year. A full season of Cespedes, as well. Definitely Castillo(although I am not sure if he's any good). They can acquire a 1b and trade Napoli? They will def be looking for a 3B. Maybe Sandoval?? They probably trade Victorino, as well? Napoli and Victorino would both be in a walk year, so the Sox could eat money and move them. They could look at a catcher on a short deal. Hopefully it works out better than Pierzynski did. They have a lot of prospects if they want to trade. They should be busy this offseason. I think the only guys in the lineup for sure next year are Ortiz, Cespedes, Pedroia and Betts. That's a lot of flexibility. What do they do with Craig. He's valueless now and locked up through 2017 (ugh). His contract looked great at the start of the season but now looks like a mini Teixeira. (5.5 next year, 9 in 2016, 11 in 2017). I think they have to play him and hope he gets hot for a month or two and then unload his ass to anyone who will take him as a change of scenery guy. Wow. Didn't realize they owed him that much $$$. I've heard over and over that he wasn't healthy this year. Hopefully he gets his shit together for next year. Otherwise they will have an expensive bench piece. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 24, 2014 22:54:58 GMT -5
Betts there from Opening Day. He's the leadoff guy next year. A full season of Cespedes, as well. Definitely Castillo(although I am not sure if he's any good). They can acquire a 1b and trade Napoli? They will def be looking for a 3B. Maybe Sandoval?? They probably trade Victorino, as well? Napoli and Victorino would both be in a walk year, so the Sox could eat money and move them. They could look at a catcher on a short deal. Hopefully it works out better than Pierzynski did. They have a lot of prospects if they want to trade. They should be busy this offseason. I think the only guys in the lineup for sure next year are Ortiz, Cespedes, Pedroia and Betts. That's a lot of flexibility. You realize the Sox offense has still been sup-par since Cespedes and Betts have joined, right? I'll give you it should get better if Peddy/Cespedes/Ortiz/Betts/Vic/Napoli are all in the same lineup. Its better. You can play the "if everyone is healthy" card if you like.. but I won't buy it.. Given the injury history of that lineup overall. I'm not really sure why you think they should trade Napoli. He only has 1 year left at 16M. Why bother? 16M cuts into his trade value.. All I hear is flexibility...Ok. Does that mean they will actually do anything? Given some the brittle nature of those players. I'd rather have the depth.. I do realize that, yes. But I think it will be different with some new pieces in 2015, and a full season for those other guys. I'm not playing the "everyone is healthy" card, either. I'm saying they eat some money on Napoli and Victorino and upgrade those spots. Napoli is overpaid at $16m. But if they eat half of that?? I think at least a few teams could stomach that contract. I think they will be active because they NEED to be active. Ownership has said they can & will spend this Winter. So we'll see. The flexibility and payroll space isn't a bad thing if used properly. |
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Post by yankeesfan on Dec 18, 2014 1:13:11 GMT -5
LOL at this 2222 guy who thinks the Red Sox will be better than the Yankees next year.
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Post by yankeesfan on Dec 18, 2014 1:16:02 GMT -5
Jesus, I'm gonna have to stay off of this board. The Sox fans here are absolutely delusional. Guess that's what finishing in last in the division does to you.
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Post by b1ake on Apr 5, 2016 10:42:02 GMT -5
I'm picking the Sox to win the AL East.
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 10:51:17 GMT -5
I'm picking the Sox to win the AL East. It is your right as an American......to be a fucking idiot. |
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Post by b1ake on Apr 5, 2016 10:52:04 GMT -5
I'm picking the Sox to win the AL East. It is your right as an American......to be a fucking idiot. Who you got? |
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 10:58:45 GMT -5
It is your right as an American......to be a fucking idiot. Who you got? Toronto........its pretty wide open, everyone has major holes......redsox aren't a horrible pick, neither are the Yanks, neither is Baltimore
Not many good starting rotations in that division.......and when I say not many, I mean none. So I just picked Toronto, who has the best offense. I think everyone in that division is between 75-88 wins.
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Post by b1ake on Apr 5, 2016 11:02:18 GMT -5
Toronto........its pretty wide open, everyone has major holes......redsox aren't a horrible pick, neither are the Yanks, neither is Baltimore
Not many good starting rotations in that division.......and when I say not many, I mean none. So I just picked Toronto, who has the best offense. I think everyone in that division is between 75-88 wins.
Agreed, that division stinks. I would pick the Blue Jays but they don't play the game the right way. |
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 12:25:28 GMT -5
Wow....looking at the Yankees lineup......good thing they have the best rotation in the division, because that lineup looks pretty shitty.
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Post by bigddude on Apr 5, 2016 12:26:53 GMT -5
Wow....looking at the Yankees lineup......good thing they have the best rotation in the division, because that lineup looks pretty shitty. Not an Aaron Hicks fan I see......
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 12:28:51 GMT -5
Wow....looking at the Yankees lineup......good thing they have the best rotation in the division, because that lineup looks pretty shitty. Not an Aaron Hicks fan I see......
lol
He couldn't even crack the Twins lineup.
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Post by OXlodge on Apr 5, 2016 12:32:06 GMT -5
"PANNNDAAHHHHHHHHHHHH"
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Apr 5, 2016 12:37:17 GMT -5
Wow....looking at the Yankees lineup......good thing they have the best rotation in the division, because that lineup looks pretty shitty. Not an Aaron Hicks fan I see......
lol
No offense but they are not going to get much offense there. Yanks daily lineup is like the Tigers...but they are older. And there are more old dudes. Some brittle dudes...A Rod, Teix, Beltran, Ellsbury, as opposed to Miggy and V Mart.
Then you get to the mound and they have CC, the Tigers have Verlander (advantage Tigers there). Sanchez is brittle as is Tanaka, but Tanaka is younger so I'll give NY an edge there. The bullpen is a clean sweep for NY even though Detroit signed Justin Wilson, who equalled NY's team leader Dellin Betances in Holds.
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 12:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 12:39:03 GMT -5
Not an Aaron Hicks fan I see......
lol
No offense but they are not going to get much offense there. Yanks daily lineup is like the Tigers...but they are older. And there are more old dudes. Some brittle dudes...A Rod, Teix, Beltran, Ellsbury, as opposed to Miggy and V Mart.
Then you get to the mound and they have CC, the Tigers have Verlander (advantage Tigers there). Sanchez is brittle as is Tanaka, but Tanaka is younger so I'll give NY an edge there. The bullpen is a clean sweep for NY even though Detroit signed Justin Wilson, who equalled NY's team leader Dellin Betances in Holds.
Both teams are going to need really good health to stay in it, I think.I don't think either stays in it. |
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 13:28:17 GMT -5
ohh...looks like Pedo lost a step and some range. That ball has to at least stay in the infield to save a run.
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Post by OXlodge on Apr 5, 2016 13:31:49 GMT -5
ohh...looks like Pedo lost a step and some range. That ball has to at least stay in the infield to save a run. I'm guessing he's not light years better defensively than any other 2Bman? |
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Post by lemiwinks on Apr 5, 2016 13:33:05 GMT -5
Indians tied it up....both runs can be attributed to Pedo not getting to a groundball.
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