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Jun 12, 2014 14:36:40 GMT -5
Post by Zig on Jun 12, 2014 14:36:40 GMT -5
A Group Too Extreme For Al Qaeda Just Took Over Iraq's Second Biggest CityFILE - This undated file image posted on a militant website on Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2014 shows fighters from the al-Qaida linked Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) marching in Raqqa, Syria. (AP Photo/militant website, File) They have live-tweeted amputations, carried out public crucifixions and have been disavowed as too extreme by al-Qaeda. Now they have taken over Mosul, Iraq's second biggest city. They are the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, a group of extremist Sunni Islamist militants, and they are rapidly becoming one of the deadliest and most prolific insurgent groups in the Middle East. On Tuesday, ISIS fighters led a surprise attack on government locations in Mosul, Iraq's second largest city. The assault was so brutal that soldiers in the Iraqi army left their posts and in some cases even their uniforms as they fled en masse, according to a report by the Washington Post. The assault has left the terror group in control of the city's airport, army base and other vital infrastructure. It provided them with cash from the city's banks and weapons from the local military posts. As the BBC notes, the fighting has also resulted in the rapid and fearful exodus of hundreds of thousands of people. The seizure of Mosul is the latest event in the the rise of ISIS, once merely one of the many al-Qaeda-linked franchises that occupied the fractious and insecure regions of Syria and Iraq, but now a powerful autonomous entity that holds significant territory and resources. Who Is ISIS? ISIS is a group of radical hardline militants that has grown out of the al-Qaeda structure. In vastly simplified terms, al-Qaeda is an amalgam of different jihadist groups active in various regions, each with their own command structure but all ostensibly answering to al-Qaeda's core leadership, led by Ayman al-Zawahri. As the BBC describes in their profile of the group, the formation of ISIS was announced in April of 2013, when the group was presented as a merger between the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), an al-Qaeda affiliate, and the Syrian jihadist rebel group, Jabhat al-Nusra. Soon after the announcement however, the Nusra front rejected the merger, and al-Qaeda's core leadership as well denied the alliance. The new organization went ahead anyway as ISIS, led by a man named Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and carried out a number of vicious attacks in Syria and Iraq. In June of last year the group was ordered by al-Qaeda's core to leave Syria, but the militants and their leader publicly rejected the order. As the New York Times explains, the move was a "watershed moment in the vast decentralization of al-Qaeda and its ideology since 9/11." iraq map The recently seized city of Mosul lies in northern Iraq, and there are reports that ISIS is also moving south towards Kirkuk. ISIS Beyond Al-Qaeda After the intial break with al-Qaeda's central authority, which was eventually formalized in January of this year, ISIS quickly accumulated power. As Liz Sly reports in her excellent profile of the group for the Washington Post, the group's rapid rise was in no small part due to their ability to recruit thousands of militant volunteers who had flocked to Syria in recent months. Sly also notes that the ascendant ISIS began to hold a unique position within Syria, establishing itself not only as a group that fought against government forces but one that established control over its seized territory. In the areas under its control, ISIS carried out a number of atrocities, imposing radical Islamic laws and sometimes sharing the evidence of their brutalizing on social media. ISIS Seizes Cities In Iraq Reportedly commanding thousands of fighters and freed of al-Qaeda's bureaucracy, ISIS has seemingly set its sights on controlling cities in Iraq. In January of this year the group's militants assaulted the city of Fallujah and seized its government buildings. Despite a government offensive to retake that city, ISIS remains essentially in control. Now the fighters have seized Mosul in a massive assault that has already caused over hundreds of thousands to flee their homes, and will likely result in more insecurity for a country that saw over 800 killed in May alone. On Wednesday, the fighters pressed south towards the capital Baghdad and closed in on Iraq's largest oil refinery near the city of Baji. The inability of Iraq's government to halt ISIS' gains is of serious concern for the future of the country, raising fears that this is part of a grander ambition by the terror group. As the Washington Post reports, it's a sentiment expressed by Iraqi governor Atheel Nujaifi, who stated in the wake of the attack that “this will reach every corner of Iraq if it doesn’t stop.” www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/11/isis-mosul-iraq_n_5481290.html
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Iraq
Jun 12, 2014 15:52:09 GMT -5
Post by Leader O'Cola on Jun 12, 2014 15:52:09 GMT -5
Mission accomplished
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Iraq
Jun 12, 2014 16:00:06 GMT -5
Post by Zig on Jun 12, 2014 16:00:06 GMT -5
what a colossal waste of money and lives
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Iraq
Jun 12, 2014 16:08:25 GMT -5
Post by BHR on Jun 12, 2014 16:08:25 GMT -5
Obama is taking a nap
From trying to be the world police
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Jun 12, 2014 19:55:37 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 19:55:37 GMT -5
If we don't go over into Pakistan and kill all the Taliban freaks the same thing will happen in Afghanistan once we leave. Shouldn't be a surprise. WE should have learned from Vietnam that we must finish a job before we leave. Obama has no inclination to finish off the raghead extremists over there.
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Iraq
Jun 13, 2014 8:10:39 GMT -5
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Post by BHR on Jun 13, 2014 8:10:39 GMT -5
If we don't go over into Pakistan and kill all the Taliban freaks the same thing will happen in Afghanistan once we leave. Shouldn't be a surprise. WE should have learned from Vietnam that we must finish a job before we leave. Obama has no inclination to finish off the raghead extremists over there. We lost when we went into Iraq illegally and with no plan. We lost a lot of support then
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Jun 13, 2014 9:30:28 GMT -5
Post by Leader O'Cola on Jun 13, 2014 9:30:28 GMT -5
If we don't go over into Pakistan and kill all the Taliban freaks the same thing will happen in Afghanistan once we leave. Shouldn't be a surprise. WE should have learned from Vietnam that we must finish a job before we leave. Obama has no inclination to finish off the raghead extremists over there.
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Jun 13, 2014 11:45:28 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2014 11:45:28 GMT -5
There is only one thing those ragheads over there understand. And that is brute force. So I say we need to go over there and clean out all the idiots or just forget about it and leave them alone. This going half-in half-out crap is what cost us in Vietnam. The USA never learns from its mistakes.
War isn't a political toy. War is total destruction of the enemy. They need more classes in war and its purpose in the colleges that these dingbat politicians attend.
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Jun 20, 2014 7:31:07 GMT -5
Post by redseat on Jun 20, 2014 7:31:07 GMT -5
Do we really continue to need to be the world's "police?"
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Jun 20, 2014 8:05:50 GMT -5
Post by BHR on Jun 20, 2014 8:05:50 GMT -5
Do we really continue to need to be the world's "police?" We really need to find out ISIS's intentions. If it is simply a civil war in Iraq then no we don't. If this really is a Jihad that the "extremist" Republicans are claiming then we do need to shut them down. Also, the point is that we caused this situation in Iraq because enither Bush nor Obama had a exit strategy, so do we feel that we need to correct this?
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Jun 20, 2014 11:48:02 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 11:48:02 GMT -5
I think we should just leave Iraq alone for right now. Let it come to a head and let's see what we've got over there before we go clod stomping into the middle of whatever's going on.
As far as Afghanistan is concerned we either need to ANNIHILATE THE ENEMY or just pull our boys out. Hanging around as "free police" is costing us money big time.
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Jun 21, 2014 17:44:30 GMT -5
Post by BHR on Jun 21, 2014 17:44:30 GMT -5
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Jun 24, 2014 12:26:49 GMT -5
Post by redseat on Jun 24, 2014 12:26:49 GMT -5
Do we really continue to need to be the world's "police?" We really need to find out ISIS's intentions. If it is simply a civil war in Iraq then no we don't. If this really is a Jihad that the "extremist" Republicans are claiming then we do need to shut them down. Also, the point is that we caused this situation in Iraq because enither Bush nor Obama had a exit strategy, so do we feel that we need to correct this? we never should have been there in the first place in reality but yes, we F'd it up to begin with!
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Jun 24, 2014 12:42:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 12:42:16 GMT -5
Do we really continue to need to be the world's "police?" That is a great question. No we shouldn't be. But if we don't do it someone else will. So there is your choice. Either we are going to police up the world or someone else will. Personally, I don't think anybody else but the UK or France would do a half decent job and they can't afford to do it and they know it. So if we don't do it China or Russia or Iran or somebody like that will.
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Jun 24, 2014 17:57:56 GMT -5
Post by redseat on Jun 24, 2014 17:57:56 GMT -5
Do we really continue to need to be the world's "police?" That is a great question. No we shouldn't be. But if we don't do it someone else will. So there is your choice. Either we are going to police up the world or someone else will. Personally, I don't think anybody else but the UK or France would do a half decent job and they can't afford to do it and they know it. So if we don't do it China or Russia or Iran or somebody like that will. Yeah but should that be the logic to use? I mean it seems to me like we cause more problems then we solve
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Iraq
Jun 24, 2014 21:06:45 GMT -5
Post by Leader O'Cola on Jun 24, 2014 21:06:45 GMT -5
Fuck it
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Jun 25, 2014 6:04:34 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 6:04:34 GMT -5
That is a great question. No we shouldn't be. But if we don't do it someone else will. So there is your choice. Either we are going to police up the world or someone else will. Personally, I don't think anybody else but the UK or France would do a half decent job and they can't afford to do it and they know it. So if we don't do it China or Russia or Iran or somebody like that will. Yeah but should that be the logic to use? I mean it seems to me like we cause more problems then we solve That's because we are going in with the wrong approach. We are trying to be political about it just like Vietnam. We need to go in and completely destroy the enemy. If we aren't going to do that then we should just keep our boys home.
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Jun 25, 2014 10:06:59 GMT -5
Post by redseat on Jun 25, 2014 10:06:59 GMT -5
Yeah but should that be the logic to use? I mean it seems to me like we cause more problems then we solve That's because we are going in with the wrong approach. We are trying to be political about it just like Vietnam. We need to go in and completely destroy the enemy. If we aren't going to do that then we should just keep our boys home. Technically we don't have to go in at all. We can just nuke them or just bomb the hell out of them.
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Jun 25, 2014 10:46:25 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 10:46:25 GMT -5
That's because we are going in with the wrong approach. We are trying to be political about it just like Vietnam. We need to go in and completely destroy the enemy. If we aren't going to do that then we should just keep our boys home. Technically we don't have to go in at all. We can just nuke them or just bomb the hell out of them. Good point. You are a bad, bad boy. LOL
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Jun 25, 2014 11:19:29 GMT -5
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Post by Leader O'Cola on Jun 25, 2014 11:19:29 GMT -5
wouldn't the smart thing be let these cretins keep fighting their sectarian wars until there's only one left standing, then worry about whether we need to take them out?
sure, it doesn't sound humanitarian but........
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Jun 25, 2014 14:40:01 GMT -5
Post by redseat on Jun 25, 2014 14:40:01 GMT -5
Technically we don't have to go in at all. We can just nuke them or just bomb the hell out of them. Good point. You are a bad, bad boy. LOL that's what McKayla say's to me every night!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 11:04:53 GMT -5
Good point. You are a bad, bad boy. LOL that's what McKayla say's to me every night! Bitch! And here I thought she only said that to me.
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Jun 26, 2014 14:17:24 GMT -5
Post by redseat on Jun 26, 2014 14:17:24 GMT -5
that's what McKayla say's to me every night! Bitch! And here I thought she only said that to me. She plays the field.....
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Iraq
Aug 8, 2014 17:01:51 GMT -5
Post by Zig on Aug 8, 2014 17:01:51 GMT -5
Iraqi Official: Hundreds Of Yazidi Women Held Captive By Islamic StateBAGHDAD (AP) — Hundreds of women from the Yazidi religious minority have been taken captive by Sunni militants with "vicious plans," an Iraqi official said Friday, further underscoring the dire plight of Iraq's minorities at the hands of the Islamic State group. Kamil Amin, the spokesman for Iraq's Human Rights Ministry, said hundreds of Yazidi women below the age of 35 are being held in schools in Iraq's second largest city, Mosul. He said the ministry learned of the captives from their families. "We think that the terrorists by now consider them slaves and they have vicious plans for them," Amin told The Associated Press. "We think that these women are going to be used in demeaning ways by those terrorists to satisfy their animalistic urges in a way that contradicts all the human and Islamic values." The U.S. has confirmed that the Islamic State group has kidnapped and imprisoned Yazidi women so that they can be sold or married off to extremist fighters, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information came from classified intelligence reports. There was no solid estimate of the number of women victimized, the official said. Tens of thousands of Yazidis fled when the Islamic State group earlier this month captured the northern Iraqi town of Sinjar, near the Syrian border. The Yazidis practice an ancient religion that the Sunni Muslim radicals consider heretical. The extremist group's capture of a string of towns and villages in the north has sent minority communities fleeing for their lives. The Islamic state views Yazidis and Shiite Muslims as apostates, and has demanded Christians either convert to Islam or pay a special tax. About 50,000 Yazidis — half of them children, according to U.N. figures — fled to the mountains outside Sinjar where many of them remain, trapped and running out of food and water. Late Thursday, the U.S. military cargo jets dropped humanitarian aid to the mountains. Amin's comments were the first Iraqi government confirmation that some women were being held by the group. On Tuesday, Yazidi lawmaker Vian Dakheel made an emotional plea in parliament to the Iraqi government to save the Yazidi people, saying the "women have been sold in a slavery market." President Barack Obama said the humanitarian airdrops were made at the request of the Iraqi government as the Islamic State militant group tightened its grip on northern Iraq. In his remarks late Thursday, he mentioned "chilling reports" of fighters with the group "rounding up families, conducting mass executions, and enslaving Yazidi women." The U.N. Security Council issued a statement Friday condemning targeted attacks against Iraq's minorities, adding that any widespread attacks against civilian populations based on ethnic, religious or political background may be considered a crime against humanity for which those responsible must be held accountable. ____ Associated Press reporter Vivian Salama in Baghdad contributed to this report. www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/08/yazidi-women-captive_n_5662805.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D513107
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Aug 10, 2014 11:18:11 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 11:18:11 GMT -5
Bitch! And here I thought she only said that to me. She plays the field..... Most all chicks that look that good do, you know.
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Aug 10, 2014 11:20:10 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 11:20:10 GMT -5
Obama isn't a real player. He is not going to play to win. So he needs to pull all of our boys out of there, now. No sense in wasting American lives and money in a place that most Americans couldn't care less about.
It isn't right to tell our boys to go over there and fight but don't try to totally destroy the enemy so you can win and come back home. I can't wait until Obama is quite gone.
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Aug 11, 2014 12:06:04 GMT -5
Post by redseat on Aug 11, 2014 12:06:04 GMT -5
Most all chicks that look that good do, you know. Yes this is true.
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Iraq
Sept 7, 2014 10:15:06 GMT -5
Post by Zig on Sept 7, 2014 10:15:06 GMT -5
Sunday, September 07, 2014 TBILISI, Georgia -- The U.S. military said Sunday it launched airstrikes around Haditha Dam in western Iraq, targeting Islamic State insurgents there for the first time in a move to prevent the group from capturing the vital dam. The strikes represented a broadening of the U.S. campaign against the Islamic State militants, moving the military operations closer to the border of Syria, where the group also has been operating. Speaking in Georgia where he's meeting with government and defense officials, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said that if the dam were to fall into the militant's hands "or if that dam would be destroyed, the damage that that would cause would be very significant and it would put a significant additional and big risk into the mix in Iraq" including U.S. interests there. At the same time, however, Hagel rejected the suggestion that the Haditha strikes opened up a new front in the war against the Islamic State group or that it represented an escalation of the U.S. military operations. He spoke at a press conference with Georgia Defense Minister Irakli Alasania. Alasania, meanwhile, said Georgia expects to provide some assistance in the campaign against the Islamic State, saying that training and carrying out military exercises with the Iraqi forces are "things that come to our mind." He said Georgia can play a supporting role and there are plans to discuss the matter further. U.S. officials said that while the Anbar Province dam remains in control of the Iraqis, the U.S. offensive was an effort to beat back militants who have been trying to take over key dams across the country, including the Haditha complex. Hagel said the Iraqi government had asked the U.S. to launch the airstrikes and that Iraqi forces on the ground conceived the operation. Anbar has for some time been a contested region between Iraqi forces and Islamic State militants backed by allied Sunni tribes. The situation deteriorated significantly in late December, and the militants took over parts of Ramadi and Fallujah. The Iraqi government and allied tribes launched an offensive on Jan. 26 to wrest control of the cities back from the militants and sporadic clashes have continued around Fallujah and in some parts of Ramadi, with only limited success by Iraqi security forces. U.S. airstrikes could greatly boost their hand now. "The dam is a critically important facility for Iraq," Hagel said, adding that the U.S. is continuing to explore all options for expanding the battle against the Islamic State into Syria. Hagel spoke after a meeting with Alasania, the first of several sessions with government leaders. His visit comes on the heels of the two-day NATO summit in Wales. "We conducted these strikes to prevent terrorists from further threatening the security of the dam, which remains under control of Iraqi Security Forces, with support from Sunni tribes," Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby said in a statement. The dam is a major source of water and electrical power. The military said a mix of fighter and bomber aircraft conducted four airstrikes, destroying five Islamic State Humvees, another armed vehicle, a checkpoint and damaged a militant bunker. The U.S. aircraft safely exited the strike area. "We will continue to conduct operations as needed in support of the Iraqi Security Forces and the Sunni tribes, working with those forces securing Haditha Dam," Kirby said. Last month Islamic State fighters were battling to capture the Haditha Dam, which has six power generators located alongside Iraq's second-largest reservoir. But, despite their attacks, Iraqi forces there backed up by local Sunni tribes have been able to hold them off. The group was able to take control of the Mosul Dam in northern Iraq last month, but persistent U.S. airstrikes dislodged the militants. And while fighters have been trying to take it back, the U.S. has continued to use strikes to keep them at bay. The military said Sunday it had also launched a fresh air attack against militants near the Mosul Dam. U.S. officials have expressed concerns that militants could flood Baghdad and other large swaths of the country if they control the dams. It also would give the group control over electricity, which they could use to strengthen their control over residents. Earlier this year, the group gained control of the Fallujah Dam on the Euphrates River and the militants used it as a weapon, opening it to flood downriver when government forces moved in on the city. Water is a precious commodity in Iraq, a largely desert country of 32.5 million people. The decline of water levels in the Euphrates over recent years has led to electricity shortages in towns south of Baghdad, where steam-powered generators depend entirely on water levels. On Friday and Saturday, the U.S. used a mix of attack aircraft, fighter jets and drones to conduct two airstrikes around Irbil. The strikes hit trucks and armored vehicles. Those operations brought the total number of airstrikes to 133 since early August. The airstrikes are aimed at protecting U.S. personnel and facilities, as well protecting critical infrastructure and aiding refugees fleeing the militants. 7online.com/news/us-launches-airstrikes-targeting-isis-around-iraqs-haditha-dam/297973/
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Sept 9, 2014 20:16:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 20:16:33 GMT -5
Send in the First Marines Expeditionary Force with orders to kill all rag headed opposition and ISIS would cease to exist within 2 weeks. Or don't and this thing drags on for years.
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Sept 10, 2014 21:03:08 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 21:03:08 GMT -5
More hot air from Obama tonite. Whatev.
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