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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 14:29:22 GMT -5
Stats just released showing the last year in Major League Baseball was the singular highest percentage of plate appearances that resulted in a ball not being put in play in the history of the game.
30.2%
Highest number in league history. Again the good news is that the commissioner of knowledge is it and is using that as a means to facilitate changes in the strike zone so that there was more action in a baseball game. I love this guy.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Mar 29, 2017 14:33:08 GMT -5
If the Commish really wanted to improve the action and pace of play - robot ump a la Eric Byrnes' system. And when Manfred says "the technology isn't there yet" he's full of shit. We've got self-driving cars for Pete's sake!
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Post by Chappion on Mar 29, 2017 14:36:56 GMT -5
If the Commish really wanted to improve the action and pace of play - robot ump a la Eric Byrnes' system. And when Manfred says "the technology isn't there yet" he's full of shit. We've got self-driving cars for Pete's sake! They've had that technology in tennis for 20 years. They could do it if they wanted to. And they should. Nothing worse than watching a shitty home plate umpire miss call after call. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 14:37:14 GMT -5
If the Commish really wanted to improve the action and pace of play - robot ump a la Eric Byrnes' system. And when Manfred says "the technology isn't there yet" he's full of shit. We've got self-driving cars for Pete's sake! [br They need to raise the strike zone. The low strike is too hard to hit. So too many guys take it and too many pitchers miss trying to hit it |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 15:26:47 GMT -5
Serious talk about banning the shift..
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 15:29:53 GMT -5
Serious talk about forcing relievers to face a minimum of 2 or 3 batters in the reg season.
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Post by The Bag on Mar 29, 2017 17:09:36 GMT -5
If the Commish really wanted to improve the action and pace of play - robot ump a la Eric Byrnes' system. And when Manfred says "the technology isn't there yet" he's full of shit. We've got self-driving cars for Pete's sake! [br They need to raise the strike zone. The low strike is too hard to hit. So too many guys take it and too many pitchers miss trying to hit it Snoogs is right about the strike zone. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 18:10:43 GMT -5
[br They need to raise the strike zone. The low strike is too hard to hit. So too many guys take it and too many pitchers miss trying to hit it Snoogs is right about the strike zone. no, they need to enforce the strike zone it is written in the rule book raising the strike zone makes the game last longer, and we all know people want the games to be over in 2 hours or less |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 18:16:01 GMT -5
Snoogs is right about the strike zone. no, they need to enforce the strike zone it is written in the rule book raising the strike zone makes the game last longer, and we all know people want the games to be over in 2 hours or less Nope... not true on either count. The umpire grading system has shown that they have done an excellent job of calling the low strike the way that it's intended. The problem is that it's a tough pitch to hit so hitters don't swing at it. Which generates more pitches because pitchers are trying to hit the spot and hitters are waiting for a better pitch. This is analysis that was conducted and discussed at these recent baseball meetings. Do some research and read the Commissioners thoughts about it. Because youre deadass wrong on both counts. They raise the strike zone and batters will get better pitches to hit and will put more balls and play. This past season was the singular highest percentage of plate appearances without a ball being put in play in the history of the sport. In the history. Of the sport. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 18:18:05 GMT -5
no, they need to enforce the strike zone it is written in the rule book raising the strike zone makes the game last longer, and we all know people want the games to be over in 2 hours or less Nope... not true on either count. The umpire grading system has shown that they have done an excellent job of calling the low strike the way that it's intended. The problem is that it's a tough pitch to hit so hitters don't swing at it. Which generates more pitches because pitchers are trying to hit the spot and hitters are waiting for a better pitch. This is analysis that was conducted and discussed at these recent baseball meetings. Do some research and read the Commissioners thoughts about it. Because youre deadass wrong on both counts. They raise the strike zone and batters will get better pitches to hit and will put more balls and play. This past season was the singular highest percentage of plate appearances without a ball being put in play in the history of the sport. In the history. Of the sport. more balls in play = more runs = longer games = more crying facts |
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Post by The Bag on Mar 29, 2017 18:22:27 GMT -5
Snoogs is right about the strike zone. no, they need to enforce the strike zone it is written in the rule book raising the strike zone makes the game last longer, and we all know people want the games to be over in 2 hours or less I'm not asking for a new strike zone to make games faster. I'm asking for it bc I'm tired of seeing strikes called near a batters ankles. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 18:25:08 GMT -5
Nope... not true on either count. The umpire grading system has shown that they have done an excellent job of calling the low strike the way that it's intended. The problem is that it's a tough pitch to hit so hitters don't swing at it. Which generates more pitches because pitchers are trying to hit the spot and hitters are waiting for a better pitch. This is analysis that was conducted and discussed at these recent baseball meetings. Do some research and read the Commissioners thoughts about it. Because youre deadass wrong on both counts. They raise the strike zone and batters will get better pitches to hit and will put more balls and play. This past season was the singular highest percentage of plate appearances without a ball being put in play in the history of the sport. In the history. Of the sport. more balls in play = more runs = longer games = more crying facts The commissioner of baseball completely disagrees. For somebody who claims to be a big fan of the sport you haven't paid much attention to what's been going on lately. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 18:49:29 GMT -5
more balls in play = more runs = longer games = more crying facts The commissioner of baseball completely disagrees. For somebody who claims to be a big fan of the sport you haven't paid much attention to what's been going on lately. doesnt mean the commissioner is right he also wants to start the 11th inning with runners on base selig > manfred |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 18:51:16 GMT -5
The commissioner of baseball completely disagrees. For somebody who claims to be a big fan of the sport you haven't paid much attention to what's been going on lately. doesnt mean the commissioner is right he also wants to start the 11th inning with runners on base selig > manfred Yeah, the experts who are paid huge money to analyze this stuff are wrong. Youre right. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 18:55:25 GMT -5
doesnt mean the commissioner is right he also wants to start the 11th inning with runners on base selig > manfred Yeah, the experts who are paid huge money to analyze this stuff are wrong. Youre right. manfred's a dipshit, more interested in the casual fan's experience and yes, i know i am right thanks for acknowledging that. i know it had to hurt |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 19:14:26 GMT -5
Yeah, the experts who are paid huge money to analyze this stuff are wrong. Youre right. manfred's a dipshit, more interested in the casual fan's experience and yes, i know i am right thanks for acknowledging that. i know it had to hurt I'm 40 years old and have been watching baseball since I was 5 years old. Baseball is not the way it used to be. At all. It's massively different. Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in league history. Last year. you may fancy yourself some old-school traditionalist, when in reality, the slowness of the game today is largely due to things that have changed in the past 20 years. Shifts, specialty relievers, starters only throwing 100 pitches, batters trying to drive up pitch counts. This isn't how the game used to be played. |
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Post by Chappion on Mar 29, 2017 19:17:41 GMT -5
doesnt mean the commissioner is right he also wants to start the 11th inning with runners on base selig > manfred Yeah, the experts who are paid huge money to analyze this stuff are wrong. Youre right. So starting the 12th inning with a runner on base is a good idea because rich consultants say so? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 19:17:49 GMT -5
Manfred obviously has no reason to cater to fans like you who simply slurp down the product, no matter how it is presented.
He is listening to the people who are trying to stop the tailspin that baseball has been in for a decade.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 19:53:18 GMT -5
manfred's a dipshit, more interested in the casual fan's experience and yes, i know i am right thanks for acknowledging that. i know it had to hurt I'm 40 years old and have been watching baseball since I was 5 years old. Baseball is not the way it used to be. At all. It's massively different. Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in league history. Last year. you may fancy yourself some old-school traditionalist, when in reality, the slowness of the game today is largely due to things that have changed in the past 20 years. Shifts, specialty relievers, starters only throwing 100 pitches, batters trying to drive up pitch counts. This isn't how the game used to be played. "strategy sucks" |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 19:54:57 GMT -5
Yeah, the experts who are paid huge money to analyze this stuff are wrong. Youre right. So starting the 12th inning with a runner on base is a good idea because rich consultants say so? i would almost rather see a tie after 10 innings instead of california rules |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 20:07:28 GMT -5
I'm 40 years old and have been watching baseball since I was 5 years old. Baseball is not the way it used to be. At all. It's massively different. Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in league history. Last year. you may fancy yourself some old-school traditionalist, when in reality, the slowness of the game today is largely due to things that have changed in the past 20 years. Shifts, specialty relievers, starters only throwing 100 pitches, batters trying to drive up pitch counts. This isn't how the game used to be played. "strategy sucks" Funny how you don't share the same attitude when basketball teams call timeouts and foul at the end of games. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 20:08:34 GMT -5
Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in history.
"Action sucks"
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 20:10:25 GMT -5
Funny how you don't share the same attitude when basketball teams call timeouts and foul at the end of games. i'm an enigma |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 20:12:36 GMT -5
Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in history. "Action sucks" whose fault is that, the pitcher or the batter? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 20:14:12 GMT -5
Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in history. "Action sucks" whose fault is that, the pitcher or the batter? Nobody's fault. They are playing the game according to the way the rules have dictated it should be played. That's sort of the whole point of saying why the rules need to be changed. |
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Post by The Bag on Mar 29, 2017 20:18:34 GMT -5
manfred's a dipshit, more interested in the casual fan's experience and yes, i know i am right thanks for acknowledging that. i know it had to hurt I'm 40 years old and have been watching baseball since I was 5 years old. Baseball is not the way it used to be. At all. It's massively different. Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in league history. Last year. you may fancy yourself some old-school traditionalist, when in reality, the slowness of the game today is largely due to things that have changed in the past 20 years. Shifts, specialty relievers, starters only throwing 100 pitches, batters trying to drive up pitch counts. This isn't how the game used to be played. Batters shouldn't drive up a pitch count? You were a first pitch swinger, weren't you? |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 20:21:03 GMT -5
strikeouts have increased every year since 2008 and are at an all time high
so, is it because of the pitching or the hitting?
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Mar 29, 2017 20:22:50 GMT -5
whose fault is that, the pitcher or the batter? Nobody's fault. They are playing the game according to the way the rules have dictated it should be played. That's sort of the whole point of saying why the rules need to be changed. you cant just change rules. you can enforce current rules, but adding stupid shit just to speed up the game a few minutes is fucking dumb |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 20:23:55 GMT -5
I'm 40 years old and have been watching baseball since I was 5 years old. Baseball is not the way it used to be. At all. It's massively different. Lowest percentage of balls put in play, in league history. Last year. you may fancy yourself some old-school traditionalist, when in reality, the slowness of the game today is largely due to things that have changed in the past 20 years. Shifts, specialty relievers, starters only throwing 100 pitches, batters trying to drive up pitch counts. This isn't how the game used to be played. Batters shouldn't drive up a pitch count? You were a first pitch swinger, weren't you? Neither here nor there. Just pointing out that people who are defending the way baseball is played today or not the old school traditional purists that they are trying to make themselves out to be. This version of baseball that they are defending is not what baseball has been traditionally. Frank loves to talk about the Old School Kansas City Royals. Bret saberhagen used the through 145 pitches a night. Dan Quisenberry pitched 2-3 innings per night. George Brett went to the plate looking to get a hit. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Mar 29, 2017 20:25:22 GMT -5
Nobody's fault. They are playing the game according to the way the rules have dictated it should be played. That's sort of the whole point of saying why the rules need to be changed. you cant just change rules. you can enforce current rules, but adding stupid shit just to speed up the game a few minutes is fucking dumb The strike zone has only been this low for a few years. 3 warm up pitches on the mound. I don't know that they can really do something to the effect of making it mandatory that relievers who are brought in mid inning have to face more than one batter. You keep talking about enforcing current rules. If they enforce the pitch clock, that will be more than half the battle. |
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