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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 16, 2017 12:58:21 GMT -5
fuck dallas
its not like they lost their qb and had to use mark sanchez in the playoffs. on the road. making his first career start.
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Post by Smuck on Jan 16, 2017 13:01:35 GMT -5
Definitely not And the majority of cowboys fans But guys like Dak I feel bad for Dak did handle it professionally and well for a rookie (as far as I've seen). I have no issues with him. He did almost everything he could. The only second guessing I'd do about him was spiking the ball on their last drive. They extend the clock by 4 seconds on that drive, and they go to ot. Word. Non-zero chance that they get a few shots at the end zone too, because a first down would have been a lot easier to get with 3 chances than 2 chances. Do we know whether that was Dak's call? If so, rookie mistake. If not, and I think that it wasn't, crap coaching. |
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Post by The Bag on Jan 16, 2017 13:05:10 GMT -5
Dak did handle it professionally and well for a rookie (as far as I've seen). I have no issues with him. He did almost everything he could. The only second guessing I'd do about him was spiking the ball on their last drive. They extend the clock by 4 seconds on that drive, and they go to ot. Word. Non-zero chance that they get a few shots at the end zone too, because a first down would have been a lot easier to get with 3 chances than 2 chances. Do we know whether that was Dak's call? If so, rookie mistake. If not, and I think that it wasn't, crap coaching. I doubt they left that call up to dak. They were playing it safe. But honestly, I think most would agree noone saw Rodgers going down field like that and Crosby nailing that kick (which imo outdoors, both his kicks miss) |
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Post by Smuck on Jan 16, 2017 13:09:06 GMT -5
Word. Non-zero chance that they get a few shots at the end zone too, because a first down would have been a lot easier to get with 3 chances than 2 chances. Do we know whether that was Dak's call? If so, rookie mistake. If not, and I think that it wasn't, crap coaching. I doubt they left that call up to dak. They were playing it safe. But honestly, I think most would agree noone saw Rodgers going down field like that and Crosby nailing that kick (which imo outdoors, both his kicks miss) IMO, if you're going against a top flight quarterback, indoors, your plan is to snap the ball for the kick with 5 seconds left. Every second more than that increases your risk. What Rodgers did was amazing, and surprising, but not mind-fucking-blowing surprising, not that last drive per se. It's fucking Rodgers. Don't leave him the time. |
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Post by Smuck on Jan 16, 2017 13:10:41 GMT -5
And yeah, you're right. Nobody said "well that's plenty of time, Rodgers got this". But most of us were thinking "shit, that might be enough time for him to get to the 40 or so". Especially since the kicker had just nailed a long one.
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 16, 2017 13:15:44 GMT -5
And yeah, you're right. Nobody said "well that's plenty of time, Rodgers got this". But most of us were thinking "shit, that might be enough time for him to get to the 40 or so". Especially since the kicker had just nailed a long one. Lol im not so sure about that smuckles. And i am rodgers biggest ceitic here |
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Post by Smuck on Jan 16, 2017 13:23:17 GMT -5
And yeah, you're right. Nobody said "well that's plenty of time, Rodgers got this". But most of us were thinking "shit, that might be enough time for him to get to the 40 or so". Especially since the kicker had just nailed a long one. Lol im not so sure about that smuckles. And i am rodgers biggest ceitic here I thought that he could. I wasn't sure that he would. I'd say that was the most common POV, but I could be wrong. |
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Post by The Bag on Jan 16, 2017 13:23:33 GMT -5
And yeah, you're right. Nobody said "well that's plenty of time, Rodgers got this". But most of us were thinking "shit, that might be enough time for him to get to the 40 or so". Especially since the kicker had just nailed a long one. The only thing I said in that whole series is "there's a ton of time left and time outs, why would they spike it". |
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Post by The Bag on Jan 16, 2017 13:24:16 GMT -5
Lol im not so sure about that smuckles. And i am rodgers biggest ceitic here I thought that he could. I wasn't sure that he would. I'd say that was the most common POV, but I could be wrong. Rodgers is the king of the hail Mary. The only way I think he won't have a chance on the final drive is if he doesnt touch the ball. |
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Post by Smuck on Jan 16, 2017 13:25:20 GMT -5
I thought that he could. I wasn't sure that he would. I'd say that was the most common POV, but I could be wrong. Rodgers is the king of the hail Mary. The only way I think he won't have a chance on the final drive is if he doesnt touch the ball. Agreed. Which is why I do everything that I can to run the time down, if I'm Dallas. Why introduce the risk? |
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 16, 2017 13:27:34 GMT -5
Lol im not so sure about that smuckles. And i am rodgers biggest ceitic here I thought that he could. I wasn't sure that he would. I'd say that was the most common POV, but I could be wrong. I personally think the part everyone was so impressed by is that the drive seemed over Add that to the difficulty of the throw and obviously the implications You have the over-hype Remove any of those things and the play loses a lot. So i guess i can see where youre coming from. But i also get the hype |
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Post by The Bag on Jan 16, 2017 13:29:12 GMT -5
I thought that he could. I wasn't sure that he would. I'd say that was the most common POV, but I could be wrong. I personally think the part everyone was so impressed by is that the drive seemed over Add that to the difficulty of the throw and obviously the implications You have the over-hype Remove any of those things and the play loses a lot. So i guess i can see where youre coming from. But i also get the hype People thought it was done when Rodgers got sacked imo. |
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 16, 2017 13:31:07 GMT -5
I personally think the part everyone was so impressed by is that the drive seemed over Add that to the difficulty of the throw and obviously the implications You have the over-hype Remove any of those things and the play loses a lot. So i guess i can see where youre coming from. But i also get the hype People thought it was done when Rodgers got sacked imo. Yup. I def did |
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 16, 2017 13:31:43 GMT -5
Plus. Lost in all of it, was an amazing catch
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Post by Zig on Jan 16, 2017 13:32:27 GMT -5
Rodgers is the king of the hail Mary. The only way I think he won't have a chance on the final drive is if he doesnt touch the ball. Agreed. Which is why I do everything that I can to run the time down, if I'm Dallas. Why introduce the risk? you also need to put him on his ass when he's running around for 7 seconds |
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Post by MoonDriven on Jan 16, 2017 13:41:35 GMT -5
And yeah, you're right. Nobody said "well that's plenty of time, Rodgers got this". But most of us were thinking "shit, that might be enough time for him to get to the 40 or so". Especially since the kicker had just nailed a long one. The only thing I said in that whole series is "there's a ton of time left and time outs, why would they spike it". When he spiked it they were still outside the 40, with only one timeout left. No guarantee you even get into (reasonable) FG range, and you know they're saving it for when there's 3 seconds left before the attempt. They got into FG range, and unfortunately incomplete pass on 3rd. Maybe they could have ran it instead of throwing, but I had no problem with the spike |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 16, 2017 13:42:32 GMT -5
Plus. Lost in all of it, was an amazing catch It was a better catch than it was a throw. This will be ignored. |
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Post by Zig on Jan 16, 2017 13:48:24 GMT -5
Plus. Lost in all of it, was an amazing catch It was a better catch than it was a throw. This will be ignored. just like the awful INT that made the game a nail biter in the first place and that it was 2 FGS that won it... |
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Post by The Bag on Jan 16, 2017 13:48:50 GMT -5
Rodgers is the king of the hail Mary. The only way I think he won't have a chance on the final drive is if he doesnt touch the ball. Hail Mary's have more to do with the receivers than the QB. Aaron Rodgers is just launching up prayers for grabs just like every other QB in the league. Idk maybe he can throw the ball a few yards further than the next guy. But let's not pretend those aren't jump balls. For the most part I'd agree. But Rodgers has a knack for putting the ball in the right spot. |
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Post by The Bag on Jan 16, 2017 13:50:13 GMT -5
Plus. Lost in all of it, was an amazing catch It was a better catch than it was a throw. This will be ignored. Both the catch and throw were great The catch itself wasn't great. It was the fact he kept his feet inbounds was what was great. The spot and manner Rodgers threw it was what was great. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 16, 2017 13:50:39 GMT -5
Hail Mary's have more to do with the receivers than the QB. Aaron Rodgers is just launching up prayers for grabs just like every other QB in the league. Idk maybe he can throw the ball a few yards further than the next guy. But let's not pretend those aren't jump balls. For the most part I'd agree. But Rodgers has a knack for putting the ball in the right spot. Its called a hail mary for a reason |
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Post by Smuck on Jan 16, 2017 13:52:44 GMT -5
For the most part I'd agree. But Rodgers has a knack for putting the ball in the right spot. Its called a hail mary for a reason I'd try to shed some light on the differing points of view on this one, but it's more fun watching you guys argue. |
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Post by MoonDriven on Jan 16, 2017 13:53:25 GMT -5
It was a better catch than it was a throw. This will be ignored. just like the awful INT that made the game a nail biter in the first place and that it was 2 FGS that won it... The one in the 3rd quarter when they were up 15? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 16, 2017 13:56:18 GMT -5
Its called a hail mary for a reason I'd try to shed some light on the differing points of view on this one, but it's more fun watching you guys argue. Yeah, a successful Hail Mary is nothing more than a combination of bad defense and shitass luck. |
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Post by Zig on Jan 16, 2017 14:01:28 GMT -5
just like the awful INT that made the game a nail biter in the first place and that it was 2 FGS that won it... The one in the 3rd quarter when they were up 15? yes. what happened right after that? mo' shifted, Cowboys tied it up. That's why it was such a bad INT, totally in control, no need to take chances like that. luckily his kicker bailed his ass out |
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Post by Chappion on Jan 16, 2017 14:06:51 GMT -5
Rodgers is the king of the hail Mary. The only way I think he won't have a chance on the final drive is if he doesnt touch the ball. Hail Mary's have more to do with the receivers than the QB. Aaron Rodgers is just launching up prayers for grabs just like every other QB in the league. Idk maybe he can throw the ball a few yards further than the next guy. But let's not pretend those aren't jump balls. Exactly. Maybe he's had more success throwing them than most, but those plays are 95% luck regardless of who throws the ball. Announcers just want to suck Rodgers off. |
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Post by Smuck on Jan 16, 2017 14:07:16 GMT -5
Hail Mary's have more to do with the receivers than the QB. Aaron Rodgers is just launching up prayers for grabs just like every other QB in the league. Idk maybe he can throw the ball a few yards further than the next guy. But let's not pretend those aren't jump balls. Exactly. Maybe he's had more success throwing them than most, but those plays are 95% luck regardless of who throws the ball. Announcers just want to suck Rodgers off. Not just accouncers |
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Post by Zig on Jan 16, 2017 14:11:31 GMT -5
Hail Mary = throwing up a "prayer"
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Post by MoonDriven on Jan 16, 2017 14:17:05 GMT -5
The one in the 3rd quarter when they were up 15? yes. what happened right after that? mo' shifted, Cowboys tied it up. That's why it was such a bad INT, totally in control, no need to take chances like that. luckily his kicker bailed his ass out That's a stretch |
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Post by The Bag on Jan 16, 2017 14:17:58 GMT -5
Hail Mary's have more to do with the receivers than the QB. Aaron Rodgers is just launching up prayers for grabs just like every other QB in the league. Idk maybe he can throw the ball a few yards further than the next guy. But let's not pretend those aren't jump balls. Exactly. Maybe he's had more success throwing them than most, but those plays are 95% luck regardless of who throws the ball. Announcers just want to suck Rodgers off. How many have Rodgers completed vs the entire rest of the NFL? Luck or not, Rodgers has it. |
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