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Post by Zig on May 28, 2014 11:28:00 GMT -5
PHILADELPHIA – Though July 31 remains distant on the horizon, there already is plenty of talk about what kind of moves the Phillies could make at the non-waiver trade deadline. Their most attractive trade candidate, Cliff Lee, just saw his stock plummet with a strained flexor pronator tendon in his left elbow. He will be out at least three weeks, and likely longer. He will not have much time to prove his health to potential suitors at the deadline. The focus then swings to the Phillies’ middle infield, which has been among the best in baseball this season. Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, who both possess no-trade clauses, are having career years at age 35. Both are having their best seasons since 2007 in average and OPS. Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr said Tuesday he has faith in his team, and believes his star players are going nowhere. For now. “First off, no one wants to trade Chase Utley. No. 2, I don’t think Chase Utley wants to go anywhere and he has the power to decide what he wants to do,” Amaro said. “The point is kind of moot. The same with Jimmy. The same story.” Time may change that. Heading into Tuesday’s game, they sat four games below .500, their best pitcher out indefinitely and standout seasons from their stars being wasted. The Phillies have a barren farm system, thanks to bad drafting and unloading prospects in huge trades in the last five years. Utley, Rollins and even Lee could help with that, should the Phillies be out of contention come July 31. • Amaro: Franco not ready yet: Cody Asche still is two weeks away from returning to his regular duties as third baseman, as the 23-year-old landed on the disabled list Sunday with a left hamstring strain. Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg said before Tuesday’s game that he will likely stick with subs Cesar Hernandez and Reid Brignac to fill Asche’s shoes in the meantime. Shortly after Sandberg spoke, Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro connected the dots: Maikel Franco is not ready for the big leagues just yet. “He’s just not playing good enough baseball yet, he’s not really ready to be a big leaguer yet,” Amaro said. “And he’s not feeling all that well. He played like he was sick yesterday. There’s no reason to bring Franco unless he’s ready to be a big leaguer as far as I’m concerned.” Franco, the best prospect in the organization, has played admirably at third base this season with Triple-A Lehigh Valley, so much so that Sandberg said he’d give Franco, 21, the edge defensively at third over Asche. But he struggled out of the gate in his first year at the Triple-A level; he has improved of late, hitting .289 since the start of May. He also missed two games this weekend with a cold. Franco attended big-league spring training this year for the first time in his career. He impressed Sandberg and company, but a quiet bat and relative inexperience led the Phils to choose the more experienced Asche. www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/not-many-trade-options-for-aging-phillies-306711.html |
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Post by Zig on Jun 3, 2014 8:18:06 GMT -5
Cliff Lee said Monday that he hopes to begin throwing by the end of the week.
"There's a chance that could happen on this road trip," Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg said.
Lee's recovery from a strained left elbow has been slow, and while the discomfort isn't all the way gone, he said the elbow is improving.
"It's still there a little bit," Lee said. "It's getting better."
Even with the good news, beginning a throwing program would just be the first step in his recovery. Without knowing how quickly he'll progress once he resumes throwing, his timetable for a return is still uncertain. But, at the very least, taking that first step this week would be a promising development for fantasy owners.
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 9, 2014 8:11:59 GMT -5
the phillies
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Post by Zig on Jun 9, 2014 8:38:00 GMT -5
here are thoughts on five who could (should) be available: Chase Utley, Phillies: No organization has to do more of a toe touch with reality than Philadelphia. The 2007-11 run is arguably the best five-year stretch in franchise history. But it is over, and trying to rekindle it by augmenting around the aging core has been doubling down on a terrible idea. The Phillies began the weekend with the NL’s worst record and the majors’ worst run differential. The Phils fret a sell-off will disenchant their fans, but the locals are not going to come watch this. The other hindrance to a for-sale sign is whether the Phillies’ top brass will permit the architect of this problematic roster, general manager Ruben Amaro, to make the rebuild trades when his status is so tenuous. In 2012, the Phillies white-flagged it, dealing Hunter Pence, Shane Victorino and Joe Blanton and have pretty much nothing to show for it yet, so they must do better this time. www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=308218 |
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 9, 2014 8:42:07 GMT -5
here are thoughts on five who could (should) be available: Chase Utley, Phillies: No organization has to do more of a toe touch with reality than Philadelphia. The 2007-11 run is arguably the best five-year stretch in franchise history. But it is over, and trying to rekindle it by augmenting around the aging core has been doubling down on a terrible idea. The Phillies began the weekend with the NL’s worst record and the majors’ worst run differential. The Phils fret a sell-off will disenchant their fans, but the locals are not going to come watch this. The other hindrance to a for-sale sign is whether the Phillies’ top brass will permit the architect of this problematic roster, general manager Ruben Amaro, to make the rebuild trades when his status is so tenuous. In 2012, the Phillies white-flagged it, dealing Hunter Pence, Shane Victorino and Joe Blanton and have pretty much nothing to show for it yet, so they must do better this time. www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=30821810 and 5 ... both he and Rollins ... Rollins has stated many a times he wont waive it. Cant understand why either would want to stay when they could try for 1 more title. Utley to the Dodgers for Kemp and some high quality prospects makes a lot of sense for both teams. Taking Kemp should net the phils even better prospects |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 8:43:13 GMT -5
jimmy rollins 5 hits from compiling his way past schmidt on the hits list for the phillies.
how fast after he gets the record does he beg for a trade?
this comment is hysterical coming from him of all people.
"It's getting out of control now," Jimmy Rollins said. "We have a chance to go out and change that [Friday]. If not, that's a decision management is going to have to make either way."
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Post by nava on Jun 9, 2014 8:44:01 GMT -5
here are thoughts on five who could (should) be available: Chase Utley, Phillies: No organization has to do more of a toe touch with reality than Philadelphia. The 2007-11 run is arguably the best five-year stretch in franchise history. But it is over, and trying to rekindle it by augmenting around the aging core has been doubling down on a terrible idea. The Phillies began the weekend with the NL’s worst record and the majors’ worst run differential. The Phils fret a sell-off will disenchant their fans, but the locals are not going to come watch this. The other hindrance to a for-sale sign is whether the Phillies’ top brass will permit the architect of this problematic roster, general manager Ruben Amaro, to make the rebuild trades when his status is so tenuous. In 2012, the Phillies white-flagged it, dealing Hunter Pence, Shane Victorino and Joe Blanton and have pretty much nothing to show for it yet, so they must do better this time. www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=30821810 and 5 ... both he and Rollins ... Rollins has stated many a times he wont waive it. Cant understand why either would want to stay when they could try for 1 more title. Utley to the Dodgers for Kemp and some high quality prospects makes a lot of sense for both teams. Taking Kemp should net the phils even better prospects I guess Amaro convinced them the Phillies could still make a run?  |
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 9, 2014 8:48:49 GMT -5
jimmy rollins 5 hits from compiling his way past schmidt on the hits list for the phillies. how fast after he gets the record does he beg for a trade? this comment is hysterical coming from him of all people. "It's getting out of control now," Jimmy Rollins said. "We have a chance to go out and change that [Friday]. If not, that's a decision management is going to have to make either way." Im not so sure why its hysterical coming from him. He, Utley, Howard (kinda), Chooch and Byrd have done what theyre supposed to. Ive always liked rollins, he says douchey things once in awhile, but the guy is a borderline HOF'er when its all said and done (and no I dont think he should get in) but he's held his end of the bargain up for almost his entire career. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 8:53:58 GMT -5
jimmy rollins 5 hits from compiling his way past schmidt on the hits list for the phillies. how fast after he gets the record does he beg for a trade? this comment is hysterical coming from him of all people. "It's getting out of control now," Jimmy Rollins said. "We have a chance to go out and change that [Friday]. If not, that's a decision management is going to have to make either way." Im not so sure why its hysterical coming from him. He, Utley, Howard (kinda), Chooch and Byrd have done what theyre supposed to. Ive always liked rollins, he says douchey things once in awhile, but the guy is a borderline HOF'er when its all said and done (and no I dont think he should get in) but he's held his end of the bargain up for almost his entire career. uh the guy who would block pretty much any trade so he can be a selfish cunt and get a personal record, calling out management to "right the shit" is fucking hysterical. i would also LOVE to see ryne sandberg come out and say "yea, hitting .248 is pretty much what we wanted jimmy to do thsi season". and howard is "kinda" doing what he is supposed to? "oh ryan? yea, we're looking to give him 25 mil this year for 200 k's, 30 hr, and a .233 average". ryno strongo |
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 9, 2014 8:59:14 GMT -5
Im not so sure why its hysterical coming from him. He, Utley, Howard (kinda), Chooch and Byrd have done what theyre supposed to. Ive always liked rollins, he says douchey things once in awhile, but the guy is a borderline HOF'er when its all said and done (and no I dont think he should get in) but he's held his end of the bargain up for almost his entire career. uh the guy who would block pretty much any trade so he can be a selfish cunt and get a personal record, calling out management to "right the shit" is fucking hysterical. i would also LOVE to see ryne sandberg come out and say "yea, hitting .248 is pretty much what we wanted jimmy to do thsi season". and howard is "kinda" doing what he is supposed to? "oh ryan? yea, we're looking to give him 25 mil this year for 200 k's, 30 hr, and a .233 average". ryno strongo I dont count Howard against the contract any longer ... its pointless, he's not that player and we all know it. He is 5th in the NL in RBI's and is top 10 in HR's Rollins is still an elite defender and has the 4th highest OPS in the NL for SS. I dont really get you're point on his comment. He wanted to be here, management signed him 3 years ago, I like that he wanted to stay and it was his right to void any and all trades, the phils knew that. And damn right he should be calling out management - Dom Brown, Ben Revere, all the shit at 3B, the entire pen, the backend of the staff and the bench are all TERRIBLE. |
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Post by nava on Jun 9, 2014 9:00:18 GMT -5
Im not so sure why its hysterical coming from him. He, Utley, Howard (kinda), Chooch and Byrd have done what theyre supposed to. Ive always liked rollins, he says douchey things once in awhile, but the guy is a borderline HOF'er when its all said and done (and no I dont think he should get in) but he's held his end of the bargain up for almost his entire career. uh the guy who would block pretty much any trade so he can be a selfish cunt and get a personal record, calling out management to "right the shit" is fucking hysterical. i would also LOVE to see ryne sandberg come out and say "yea, hitting .248 is pretty much what we wanted jimmy to do thsi season". and howard is "kinda" doing what he is supposed to? "oh ryan? yea, we're looking to give him 25 mil this year for 200 k's, 30 hr, and a .233 average". ryno strongo Rollins has a .348 OBP batting at the top of the lineup, where getting on base is the biggest priority. Not only that, but Rollins is having one of his best offensive seasons (in terms of OBP and OPS+) and has been one of the best offensive shortstops in the NL. So yeah, Rollins is doing his job. Ryan Howard's been one of the worst 1B in all of baseball though. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:02:53 GMT -5
uh the guy who would block pretty much any trade so he can be a selfish cunt and get a personal record, calling out management to "right the shit" is fucking hysterical. i would also LOVE to see ryne sandberg come out and say "yea, hitting .248 is pretty much what we wanted jimmy to do thsi season". and howard is "kinda" doing what he is supposed to? "oh ryan? yea, we're looking to give him 25 mil this year for 200 k's, 30 hr, and a .233 average". ryno strongo I dont count Howard against the contract any longer ... its pointless, he's not that player and we all know it. He is 5th in the NL in RBI's and is top 10 in HR's Rollins is still an elite defender and has the 4th highest OPS in the NL for SS. I dont really get you're point on his comment. He wanted to be here, management signed him 3 years ago, I like that he wanted to stay and it was his right to void any and all trades, the phils knew that. And damn right he should be calling out management - Dom Brown, Ben Revere, all the shit at 3B, the entire pen, the backend of the staff and the bench are all TERRIBLE. howard was paid all that money to be top 10 in hrs and 5th in rbi (let's ignore his wretched average and k totals)? no.he was paid to rival pujols (before he went to the AL obviously). rollins is an elite defender? may wanna look over those defensive numbers right now. rollins wants to be there for his hits record. when he gets it and bolts, gimmie the "he wants to be here" speech then. him having pretty much a "im refusing any team before i get the record" no trade clause does nothing but hijack the team and prevent management from doing what he is criticizing them for. he's a fucking clown dude. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:06:13 GMT -5
uh the guy who would block pretty much any trade so he can be a selfish cunt and get a personal record, calling out management to "right the shit" is fucking hysterical. i would also LOVE to see ryne sandberg come out and say "yea, hitting .248 is pretty much what we wanted jimmy to do thsi season". and howard is "kinda" doing what he is supposed to? "oh ryan? yea, we're looking to give him 25 mil this year for 200 k's, 30 hr, and a .233 average". ryno strongo Rollins has a .348 OBP batting at the top of the lineup, where getting on base is the biggest priority. Not only that, but Rollins is having one of his best offensive seasons (in terms of OBP and OPS+) and has been one of the best offensive shortstops in the NL. So yeah, Rollins is doing his job. Ryan Howard's been one of the worst 1B in all of baseball though. one of his best seasons offensively, using sabermetrics to defend it. it's funny, guys like pedroia his 260-270 are shredded bc they are terrible. rollins hits 248 and he's having a super season at the plate. comical. |
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 9, 2014 9:06:55 GMT -5
I dont count Howard against the contract any longer ... its pointless, he's not that player and we all know it. He is 5th in the NL in RBI's and is top 10 in HR's Rollins is still an elite defender and has the 4th highest OPS in the NL for SS. I dont really get you're point on his comment. He wanted to be here, management signed him 3 years ago, I like that he wanted to stay and it was his right to void any and all trades, the phils knew that. And damn right he should be calling out management - Dom Brown, Ben Revere, all the shit at 3B, the entire pen, the backend of the staff and the bench are all TERRIBLE. howard was paid all that money to be top 10 in hrs and 5th in rbi (let's ignore his wretched average and k totals)? no.he was paid to rival pujols (before he went to the AL obviously). rollins is an elite defender? may wanna look over those defensive numbers right now. rollins wants to be there for his hits record. when he gets it and bolts, gimmie the "he wants to be here" speech then. him having pretty much a "im refusing any team before i get the record" no trade clause does nothing but hijack the team and prevent management from doing what he is criticizing them for. he's a fucking clown dude. As I said, the phils knew that about him and that was part of their sales pitch in resigning him (it was known at the time)... anytime you sign a 5 and 10 player its a risk you run. And im sure when he signed the contract 3 years ago, he didnt think things would get this bad. he wanted to be here and the GM ran the shit to the ground. again, im not evaluating howard against the contract any longer, its pointless |
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Post by nava on Jun 9, 2014 9:07:49 GMT -5
I dont count Howard against the contract any longer ... its pointless, he's not that player and we all know it. He is 5th in the NL in RBI's and is top 10 in HR's Rollins is still an elite defender and has the 4th highest OPS in the NL for SS. I dont really get you're point on his comment. He wanted to be here, management signed him 3 years ago, I like that he wanted to stay and it was his right to void any and all trades, the phils knew that. And damn right he should be calling out management - Dom Brown, Ben Revere, all the shit at 3B, the entire pen, the backend of the staff and the bench are all TERRIBLE. howard was paid all that money to be top 10 in hrs and 5th in rbi (let's ignore his wretched average and k totals)? no.he was paid to rival pujols (before he went to the AL obviously). rollins is an elite defender? may wanna look over those defensive numbers right now. rollins wants to be there for his hits record. when he gets it and bolts, gimmie the "he wants to be here" speech then. him having pretty much a "im refusing any team before i get the record" no trade clause does nothing but hijack the team and prevent management from doing what he is criticizing them for. he's a fucking clown dude. Ryan Howard's batting .233/.302/.414 with a 97 OPS+. The league average at 1B this year is .257/.334/.438 with a 117 OPS+. Jimmy Rollins is batting .248/.348/.410 with a 110 OPS+. The league average at SS is .252/.313/.378 with a 95 OPS+. So while Rollins' average is slightly lower than the average SS, his OBP and SLG% are well above the league average. Meanwhile, Howard's stats are well below the average 1B. that being said, I wouldn't go as far as calling Rollins a borderline HOFer. He's had a very nice career though. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:09:48 GMT -5
howard was paid all that money to be top 10 in hrs and 5th in rbi (let's ignore his wretched average and k totals)? no.he was paid to rival pujols (before he went to the AL obviously). rollins is an elite defender? may wanna look over those defensive numbers right now. rollins wants to be there for his hits record. when he gets it and bolts, gimmie the "he wants to be here" speech then. him having pretty much a "im refusing any team before i get the record" no trade clause does nothing but hijack the team and prevent management from doing what he is criticizing them for. he's a fucking clown dude. As I said, the phils knew that about him and that was part of their sales pitch in resigning him (it was known at the time)... anytime you sign a 5 and 10 player its a risk you run. And im sure when he signed the contract 3 years ago, he didnt think things would get this bad. he wanted to be here and the GM ran the shit to the ground. again, im not evaluating howard against the contract any longer, its pointless it's a simple concept rips management for not doing their best to improve, he's preventing management from improving. he's a hypocritical cunt. and the howard point, youre admitting i'm right. it's ok. when he signed that deal, people here (not you, but im sure you heard it) compared him to pujols. he's fucking awful. sign mark reynolds for 1/10th the salary for the same production. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Jun 9, 2014 9:11:28 GMT -5
jimmy rollins 97.3 field % bogaerts 97.1 field % good news guys, we got an "elite defensive ss" hahaha. yeah the most reliable stat their is for defense ... and really most all defensive stats are shaky. I watch the games (unfortunately) the guy can still field with anyone He made a great play on Phillips yesterday. Not just the dive, but how quickly he got back up and fired a strike. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:14:23 GMT -5
howard was paid all that money to be top 10 in hrs and 5th in rbi (let's ignore his wretched average and k totals)? no.he was paid to rival pujols (before he went to the AL obviously). rollins is an elite defender? may wanna look over those defensive numbers right now. rollins wants to be there for his hits record. when he gets it and bolts, gimmie the "he wants to be here" speech then. him having pretty much a "im refusing any team before i get the record" no trade clause does nothing but hijack the team and prevent management from doing what he is criticizing them for. he's a fucking clown dude. Ryan Howard's batting .233/.302/.414 with a 97 OPS+. The league average at 1B this year is .257/.334/.438 with a 117 OPS+. Jimmy Rollins is batting .248/.348/.410 with a 110 OPS+. The league average at SS is .252/.313/.378 with a 95 OPS+. So while Rollins' average is slightly lower than the average SS, his OBP and SLG% are well above the league average. Meanwhile, Howard's stats are well below the average 1B. that being said, I wouldn't go as far as calling Rollins a borderline HOFer. He's had a very nice career though. so youre saying the phils "kinda expected him" to hit below the average first baseman? and since we hump rollins being superman bc he's an "elite defensive shortstop", dare we even bring up howard's defense? i hope not. rollins, they also brough thim in "expecting to hit below average vs shortstops". they both literally are "below average". rollins has had a nice career though, mostly in the field. |
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Post by nava on Jun 9, 2014 9:15:43 GMT -5
Ryan Howard's batting .233/.302/.414 with a 97 OPS+. The league average at 1B this year is .257/.334/.438 with a 117 OPS+. Jimmy Rollins is batting .248/.348/.410 with a 110 OPS+. The league average at SS is .252/.313/.378 with a 95 OPS+. So while Rollins' average is slightly lower than the average SS, his OBP and SLG% are well above the league average. Meanwhile, Howard's stats are well below the average 1B. that being said, I wouldn't go as far as calling Rollins a borderline HOFer. He's had a very nice career though. so youre saying the phils "kinda expected him" to hit below the average first baseman? and since we hump rollins being superman bc he's an "elite defensive shortstop", dare we even bring up howard's defense? i hope not. rollins, they also brough thim in "expecting to hit below average vs shortstops". they both literally are "below average". rollins has had a nice career though, mostly in the field. except Rollins hasn't been below average. |
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 9, 2014 9:18:56 GMT -5
As I said, the phils knew that about him and that was part of their sales pitch in resigning him (it was known at the time)... anytime you sign a 5 and 10 player its a risk you run. And im sure when he signed the contract 3 years ago, he didnt think things would get this bad. he wanted to be here and the GM ran the shit to the ground. again, im not evaluating howard against the contract any longer, its pointless it's a simple concept rips management for not doing their best to improve, he's preventing management from improving. he's a hypocritical cunt. and the howard point, youre admitting i'm right. it's ok. when he signed that deal, people here (not you, but im sure you heard it) compared him to pujols. he's fucking awful. sign mark reynolds for 1/10th the salary for the same production. im not admitting your right or wrong on howard .... if you compare him to the contract he's going to suck. in this argument, he's not even top 5 of the phillies biggest problems. thats my point on this. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Jun 9, 2014 9:19:21 GMT -5
Jimmy Rollins : 113 wRC+...tied for 5th among SS in all of baseball.
He's still pretty good.
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:20:35 GMT -5
so youre saying the phils "kinda expected him" to hit below the average first baseman? and since we hump rollins being superman bc he's an "elite defensive shortstop", dare we even bring up howard's defense? i hope not. rollins, they also brough thim in "expecting to hit below average vs shortstops". they both literally are "below average". rollins has had a nice career though, mostly in the field. except Rollins hasn't been below average. we'll agree to average than? if you think sandberg came out this season with him "expecting average play", youre high as well. now find me stats from rollins on games after he breathes through his eyelids when he sleeps the night before. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:22:49 GMT -5
it's a simple concept rips management for not doing their best to improve, he's preventing management from improving. he's a hypocritical cunt. and the howard point, youre admitting i'm right. it's ok. when he signed that deal, people here (not you, but im sure you heard it) compared him to pujols. he's fucking awful. sign mark reynolds for 1/10th the salary for the same production. im not admitting your right or wrong on howard .... if you compare him to the contract he's going to suck. in this argument, he's not even top 5 of the phillies biggest problems. thats my point on this. lol so a guy who is declining at an absurd pace and paid one of the highest salaries on the team ISNT one of their top 5 problems? do you work for phils management? bc that would explain alot in their organization right now. btw, the guy they moved bc "we have ryan howard at 1b", hit his first grand slam last night. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 9:29:50 GMT -5
Ryan Howard is over-paid and really nothing much the phillies can do about at this point.
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Jun 9, 2014 9:30:12 GMT -5
Jimmy Rollins : 113 wRC+...tied for 5th among SS in all of baseball. He's still pretty good. nah he's black and loud and sometimes showboats .... yam has an uncontrollable dislike for him. Pedroia rules and Rollins sucks dick - all for the exact same reasons though Pedroia wRC+ is 104. Rollins has been better at the plate. This is math. People can argue it at their own peril. |
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 9, 2014 9:31:51 GMT -5
im not admitting your right or wrong on howard .... if you compare him to the contract he's going to suck. in this argument, he's not even top 5 of the phillies biggest problems. thats my point on this. lol so a guy who is declining at an absurd pace and paid one of the highest salaries on the team ISNT one of their top 5 problems? do you work for phils management? bc that would explain alot in their organization right now. btw, the guy they moved bc "we have ryan howard at 1b", hit his first grand slam last night. Yam ... the point being RIGHT NOW, there is nothing they can do about his contract. Why keep harping on it. He is producing at an OK rate in terms of driving in runs and hitting for power. that team has far more problems than howard right now - d. brown, ben revere, the entire bullpen, the entire bench, the backend of the staff, 3B You're humping this at a different level. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 9, 2014 9:32:23 GMT -5
uh the guy who would block pretty much any trade so he can be a selfish cunt and get a personal record, calling out management to "right the shit" is fucking hysterical. i would also LOVE to see ryne sandberg come out and say "yea, hitting .248 is pretty much what we wanted jimmy to do thsi season". and howard is "kinda" doing what he is supposed to? "oh ryan? yea, we're looking to give him 25 mil this year for 200 k's, 30 hr, and a .233 average". ryno strongo I dont count Howard against the contract any longer ... its pointless, he's not that player and we all know it. He is 5th in the NL in RBI's and is top 10 in HR's Rollins is still an elite defender and has the 4th highest OPS in the NL for SS. I dont really get you're point on his comment. He wanted to be here, management signed him 3 years ago, I like that he wanted to stay and it was his right to void any and all trades, the phils knew that. And damn right he should be calling out management - Dom Brown, Ben Revere, all the shit at 3B, the entire pen, the backend of the staff and the bench are all TERRIBLE. Howard wasn't paid to be what he was. He was paid because of what he was. Smart people know that body type doesnt hold up in baseball. That means I am smart, but everybody already knows that. |
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Post by OXlodge on Jun 9, 2014 9:36:07 GMT -5
If Barry Larkin is in the HOF, its really not a far gone conclusion Rollins gets in.
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:42:06 GMT -5
lol so a guy who is declining at an absurd pace and paid one of the highest salaries on the team ISNT one of their top 5 problems? do you work for phils management? bc that would explain alot in their organization right now. btw, the guy they moved bc "we have ryan howard at 1b", hit his first grand slam last night. Yam ... the point being RIGHT NOW, there is nothing they can do about his contract. Why keep harping on it. He is producing at an OK rate in terms of driving in runs and hitting for power. that team has far more problems than howard right now - d. brown, ben revere, the entire bullpen, the entire bench, the backend of the staff, 3B You're humping this at a different level. your starting first basemen who has literally 0 trade value and an albatross of a contract >>>>>> guys you could at least give away if you wanted. let's be honest, teams would TAKE revere/brown for nothing. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 9, 2014 9:43:09 GMT -5
I dont count Howard against the contract any longer ... its pointless, he's not that player and we all know it. He is 5th in the NL in RBI's and is top 10 in HR's Rollins is still an elite defender and has the 4th highest OPS in the NL for SS. I dont really get you're point on his comment. He wanted to be here, management signed him 3 years ago, I like that he wanted to stay and it was his right to void any and all trades, the phils knew that. And damn right he should be calling out management - Dom Brown, Ben Revere, all the shit at 3B, the entire pen, the backend of the staff and the bench are all TERRIBLE. Howard wasn't paid to be what he was. He was paid because of what he was. Smart people know that body type doesnt hold up in baseball. That means I am smart, but everybody already knows that. i loved when that deal was signed. numerous fans (not pickles, but other "phans") would throw pujols numbers at me telling me how awesome howard is. i said "check back in 3 years". im awesome, as are you self. |
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