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Post by Zig on Feb 10, 2015 13:43:10 GMT -5
Trade Candidate: Red Sox Outfielders By Jeff Todd [February 10, 2015 at 11:53am CST] With the free agent market wrapping up, there remains plenty of intrigue left in the offseason. In addition to extensions, several trade situations still seem worth watching over the spring. One of those is the glut of outfielders in Boston. Even after dealing Yoenis Cespedes, the Red Sox have an arguably-untenable bunching of players lined up for outfield reps. Spring Training could go a long way toward sorting through the apparent bunching, to be sure, but good health and solid performances could force a deal. Let’s take a look at the club’s candidates for the roster and/or trade block. (Note: I am not saying that all of these players are realistic trade candidates!) It’s one of the most interesting compilations of outfielders we are likely ever to see heading into spring. Mookie Betts — He’d be the starting second baseman for many teams, but with the Red Sox he could theoretically slot in anywhere. Betts is an extremely flexible piece with plenty of long-term value, and there is no way he will be dealt in anything other than a blockbuster. Jackie Bradley Jr. — Something of a forgotten man, Bradley remains a high-floor player with his top-end glove and would surely draw plenty of interest in trade. If he no longer has a firm place in the team’s long-term plans, Bradley would be perhaps the most obvious chip to be used to make a late run at adding another starter. He could still be stashed in Triple-A, of course, though fitting him on the big league roster appears to be difficult at this point. Rusney Castillo – Boston will be anxious to see how Castillo’s skills transfer in a full big league season after his impressive, but short-lived, debut late last year. He is highly unlikely to be traded. Allen Craig — On most clubs, Craig would probably spend most of his time at first or DH. But with David Ortiz and Mike Napoli on board, he lands in an awkward spot for the Red Sox. With a terrible 2014 and still-spendy contract weighing down his value, Craig’s spring will likely determine his fate. Brock Holt — Last year’s emergent hero looks like a solid bet to function as a super-utility player for the club next year, though a sub-par spring could certainly change that. Though he figures in the outfield mix as well, Holt is probably best viewed primarily as a utility infielder and therefore may not really be a part of this roster crunch. Daniel Nava — Though his production dipped somewhat last year after a strong 2013, Nava still showed a league-average bat and actually posted much-improved defensive metrics. He would figure to draw a good deal of interest: though he is out of options, Nava is owed a reasonable $1.85MM and is controllable for two more years. Hanley Ramirez — Not even eligible to be dealt at this point, Ramirez is unquestionably going to break camp with the team barring injury. But whether he transitions well to the outfield will have a major role in the team’s plans. Shane Victorino — His contract looked like a steal after 2013, but a tough 2014 campaign makes the $13MM left to go seem a bit high. A healthy Victorino could force his way into the starting mix, or could make himself attractive in a trade — particularly if a contending club were to suffer an injury during camp. And that’s all before mentioning Bryce Brentz, another viable outfield candidate who got his first taste of the bigs last year. Even if Boston carries six of the above players on its Opening Day roster — with a view to using Holt, Betts, and even Ramirez as part-time infield options as well — that leaves two players that will need to end up somewhere other than the MLB roster. While Bradley could easily start off in the minors, it would be much more difficult to justify such a move for Betts. It is not impossible that the team will enter the season with control over all of these names, especially if a DL stint or two intervenes to delay the inevitable, but the backlog makes a trade rather likely. I would look for the club to take a close look at its options early in the spring and maintain an opportunistic outlook in trade talks. With several of the more likely trade candidates needing to show their health and/or productivity this spring, it could be a drawn-out process with many hypothetically viable trade permutations. Also, with the enticing but low-probability possibility of going after a top-end starter, carrying this deep group will allow GM Ben Cherington to explore all such avenues without fear of exposing a lack of depth. All said, the Boston outfield situation is one of the most interesting in the game. It should provide plenty for fans to digest and debate over the coming months. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/02/trade-candidate-red-sox-outfielders.html
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Feb 15, 2015 8:45:26 GMT -5
Love Mookie Betts, they'd be insane to trade him for a starting pitcher as I have been hearing.
Is Jackie Bradley Jr. a flop, or is there hope?
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Feb 15, 2015 8:47:18 GMT -5
I did not see any comment on Xander Bogaerts, how about his chances?
These young players sure can make you scratch your head, can't they?
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Feb 15, 2015 8:48:39 GMT -5
I know you didn't write the article Zig, but how do you feel their rotation lines up without any trades?
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Post by aka50yearfan on Feb 15, 2015 9:05:44 GMT -5
Trade Candidate: Red Sox Outfielders By Jeff Todd [February 10, 2015 at 11:53am CST] With the free agent market wrapping up, there remains plenty of intrigue left in the offseason. In addition to extensions, several trade situations still seem worth watching over the spring. One of those is the glut of outfielders in Boston. Even after dealing Yoenis Cespedes, the Red Sox have an arguably-untenable bunching of players lined up for outfield reps. Spring Training could go a long way toward sorting through the apparent bunching, to be sure, but good health and solid performances could force a deal. Let’s take a look at the club’s candidates for the roster and/or trade block. (Note: I am not saying that all of these players are realistic trade candidates!) It’s one of the most interesting compilations of outfielders we are likely ever to see heading into spring. Mookie Betts — He’d be the starting second baseman for many teams, but with the Red Sox he could theoretically slot in anywhere. Betts is an extremely flexible piece with plenty of long-term value, and there is no way he will be dealt in anything other than a blockbuster. Jackie Bradley Jr. — Something of a forgotten man, Bradley remains a high-floor player with his top-end glove and would surely draw plenty of interest in trade. If he no longer has a firm place in the team’s long-term plans, Bradley would be perhaps the most obvious chip to be used to make a late run at adding another starter. He could still be stashed in Triple-A, of course, though fitting him on the big league roster appears to be difficult at this point. Rusney Castillo – Boston will be anxious to see how Castillo’s skills transfer in a full big league season after his impressive, but short-lived, debut late last year. He is highly unlikely to be traded. Allen Craig — On most clubs, Craig would probably spend most of his time at first or DH. But with David Ortiz and Mike Napoli on board, he lands in an awkward spot for the Red Sox. With a terrible 2014 and still-spendy contract weighing down his value, Craig’s spring will likely determine his fate. Brock Holt — Last year’s emergent hero looks like a solid bet to function as a super-utility player for the club next year, though a sub-par spring could certainly change that. Though he figures in the outfield mix as well, Holt is probably best viewed primarily as a utility infielder and therefore may not really be a part of this roster crunch. Daniel Nava — Though his production dipped somewhat last year after a strong 2013, Nava still showed a league-average bat and actually posted much-improved defensive metrics. He would figure to draw a good deal of interest: though he is out of options, Nava is owed a reasonable $1.85MM and is controllable for two more years. Hanley Ramirez — Not even eligible to be dealt at this point, Ramirez is unquestionably going to break camp with the team barring injury. But whether he transitions well to the outfield will have a major role in the team’s plans. Shane Victorino — His contract looked like a steal after 2013, but a tough 2014 campaign makes the $13MM left to go seem a bit high. A healthy Victorino could force his way into the starting mix, or could make himself attractive in a trade — particularly if a contending club were to suffer an injury during camp. And that’s all before mentioning Bryce Brentz, another viable outfield candidate who got his first taste of the bigs last year. Even if Boston carries six of the above players on its Opening Day roster — with a view to using Holt, Betts, and even Ramirez as part-time infield options as well — that leaves two players that will need to end up somewhere other than the MLB roster. While Bradley could easily start off in the minors, it would be much more difficult to justify such a move for Betts. It is not impossible that the team will enter the season with control over all of these names, especially if a DL stint or two intervenes to delay the inevitable, but the backlog makes a trade rather likely. I would look for the club to take a close look at its options early in the spring and maintain an opportunistic outlook in trade talks. With several of the more likely trade candidates needing to show their health and/or productivity this spring, it could be a drawn-out process with many hypothetically viable trade permutations. Also, with the enticing but low-probability possibility of going after a top-end starter, carrying this deep group will allow GM Ben Cherington to explore all such avenues without fear of exposing a lack of depth. All said, the Boston outfield situation is one of the most interesting in the game. It should provide plenty for fans to digest and debate over the coming months. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/02/trade-candidate-red-sox-outfielders.htmlBradley has no value other than a throw in if anyone was interested. Gloves are not hard to fine, bats are. The guy is a .196 MLB hitter after nearly 500 AB who strikes out 28% of the time. For a guy who is not a home run hitter, that is not good. Even in the minors he did not drive in runs. Right now it would be hard to give him away and if he does not show serious improvement he is a likely candidate to be DFA in a year to open up a spot on the 40 man roster. Mookie Betts is a player. He looks gooood! You find room for guys like him. But if you are in a pennant run and you think you can get a proven starter to put you over the hump, then he is the guy a team will ask for in trade if you want value in return. It cost something to get something in before September and in August you over pay. He is the quality trade bait in the bunch. Any team trading away a quality starter in August is looking to get younger or lower payroll. some of those other veterans you mentioned? If they get moved it will be because the Red Sox are out of it and some team is looking for a veteran to get them to the playoffs later in the year. That is what I see, but you know more than I about that team, but that is not always good. Hard to be a fan and be objective about players on your team.
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Post by Zig on Feb 15, 2015 9:20:22 GMT -5
I did not see any comment on Xander Bogaerts, how about his chances? These young players sure can make you scratch your head, can't they? well the article was just about the glut of OFs...They pretty much have to move 1 or 2 of those guys. Crazy they have waited so long to do something. As for Xander it's pretty much sink or swim with/for him at SS.
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Post by Zig on Feb 15, 2015 9:24:57 GMT -5
I know you didn't write the article Zig, but how do you feel their rotation lines up without any trades? I'm not comfortable with it at all. Still pissed they farked up with Lester, never should have came to him not being here. Instead of just paying him now they'll have to give up valued prospects to get Hamels and then pay him....Makes no sense to me. I say it all the time, good thing the Sox owners have $$$ because they aren't very good at baseball stuff.
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Post by Zig on Feb 15, 2015 9:28:48 GMT -5
Trade Candidate: Red Sox Outfielders By Jeff Todd [February 10, 2015 at 11:53am CST] With the free agent market wrapping up, there remains plenty of intrigue left in the offseason. In addition to extensions, several trade situations still seem worth watching over the spring. One of those is the glut of outfielders in Boston. Even after dealing Yoenis Cespedes, the Red Sox have an arguably-untenable bunching of players lined up for outfield reps. Spring Training could go a long way toward sorting through the apparent bunching, to be sure, but good health and solid performances could force a deal. Let’s take a look at the club’s candidates for the roster and/or trade block. (Note: I am not saying that all of these players are realistic trade candidates!) It’s one of the most interesting compilations of outfielders we are likely ever to see heading into spring. Mookie Betts — He’d be the starting second baseman for many teams, but with the Red Sox he could theoretically slot in anywhere. Betts is an extremely flexible piece with plenty of long-term value, and there is no way he will be dealt in anything other than a blockbuster. Jackie Bradley Jr. — Something of a forgotten man, Bradley remains a high-floor player with his top-end glove and would surely draw plenty of interest in trade. If he no longer has a firm place in the team’s long-term plans, Bradley would be perhaps the most obvious chip to be used to make a late run at adding another starter. He could still be stashed in Triple-A, of course, though fitting him on the big league roster appears to be difficult at this point. Rusney Castillo – Boston will be anxious to see how Castillo’s skills transfer in a full big league season after his impressive, but short-lived, debut late last year. He is highly unlikely to be traded. Allen Craig — On most clubs, Craig would probably spend most of his time at first or DH. But with David Ortiz and Mike Napoli on board, he lands in an awkward spot for the Red Sox. With a terrible 2014 and still-spendy contract weighing down his value, Craig’s spring will likely determine his fate. Brock Holt — Last year’s emergent hero looks like a solid bet to function as a super-utility player for the club next year, though a sub-par spring could certainly change that. Though he figures in the outfield mix as well, Holt is probably best viewed primarily as a utility infielder and therefore may not really be a part of this roster crunch. Daniel Nava — Though his production dipped somewhat last year after a strong 2013, Nava still showed a league-average bat and actually posted much-improved defensive metrics. He would figure to draw a good deal of interest: though he is out of options, Nava is owed a reasonable $1.85MM and is controllable for two more years. Hanley Ramirez — Not even eligible to be dealt at this point, Ramirez is unquestionably going to break camp with the team barring injury. But whether he transitions well to the outfield will have a major role in the team’s plans. Shane Victorino — His contract looked like a steal after 2013, but a tough 2014 campaign makes the $13MM left to go seem a bit high. A healthy Victorino could force his way into the starting mix, or could make himself attractive in a trade — particularly if a contending club were to suffer an injury during camp. And that’s all before mentioning Bryce Brentz, another viable outfield candidate who got his first taste of the bigs last year. Even if Boston carries six of the above players on its Opening Day roster — with a view to using Holt, Betts, and even Ramirez as part-time infield options as well — that leaves two players that will need to end up somewhere other than the MLB roster. While Bradley could easily start off in the minors, it would be much more difficult to justify such a move for Betts. It is not impossible that the team will enter the season with control over all of these names, especially if a DL stint or two intervenes to delay the inevitable, but the backlog makes a trade rather likely. I would look for the club to take a close look at its options early in the spring and maintain an opportunistic outlook in trade talks. With several of the more likely trade candidates needing to show their health and/or productivity this spring, it could be a drawn-out process with many hypothetically viable trade permutations. Also, with the enticing but low-probability possibility of going after a top-end starter, carrying this deep group will allow GM Ben Cherington to explore all such avenues without fear of exposing a lack of depth. All said, the Boston outfield situation is one of the most interesting in the game. It should provide plenty for fans to digest and debate over the coming months. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/02/trade-candidate-red-sox-outfielders.htmlBradley has no value other than a throw in if anyone was interested. Gloves are not hard to fine, bats are. The guy is a .196 MLB hitter after nearly 500 AB who strikes out 28% of the time. For a guy who is not a home run hitter, that is not good. Even in the minors he did not drive in runs. Right now it would be hard to give him away and if he does not show serious improvement he is a likely candidate to be DFA in a year to open up a spot on the 40 man roster. Mookie Betts is a player. He looks gooood! You find room for guys like him. But if you are in a pennant run and you think you can get a proven starter to put you over the hump, then he is the guy a team will ask for in trade if you want value in return. It cost something to get something in before September and in August you over pay. He is the quality trade bait in the bunch. Any team trading away a quality starter in August is looking to get younger or lower payroll. some of those other veterans you mentioned? If they get moved it will be because the Red Sox are out of it and some team is looking for a veteran to get them to the playoffs later in the year. That is what I see, but you know more than I about that team, but that is not always good. Hard to be a fan and be objective about players on your team. I agree with all of that. But I wouldn't quite give up on JBJ yet, but with the glut of OFs I don't think he'll make the team this year. Not sure but I think he still has "options" and can stay in AAA?
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Post by Zig on Mar 19, 2015 13:59:11 GMT -5
Kelly throws without incident, in line to make next startMarch 19, 2015, 1:45 pm DUNEDIN, Fla. -- Joe Kelly passed an important test Thursday morning, completing a 32-pitch bullpen session without incident just days after being forced to leave a start because of right biceps tendinitis. "He came out of it feeling fine,'' said John Farrell. "No restrictions as far as intensity, arm action or how he felt. It was an encouraging day and we'll keep Sunday in line (for his next start) right now unless something [in] the next day or two pops us.'' The way that the rotation worked out, Kelly was getting an extra day between outings and that will enable him to rebound a bit before appearing on the mound again Monday. "He had some biceps soreness and felt like he would get over this fairly quickly and he has,'' said Farrell. www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/joe-kelly-in-line-to-make-next-start-for-boston-red-sox
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Post by Zig on Mar 19, 2015 14:14:16 GMT -5
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 19, 2015 20:29:05 GMT -5
will definitely keep him in mind in my AL fantasy draft in 31 minutes. not picking any Sox pitchers though...
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Mar 19, 2015 22:35:25 GMT -5
Well, so much for me not taking any Sawks pitchers in my AL only draft. I took BOTH Masterson and Buckholz. Also selected Mookie Betts OF and Mike Napoli (all purpose beard monger and underrated power hitter in late rounds!
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Mar 19, 2015 22:49:44 GMT -5
So where does your head say they are finishing not your heart your head
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