Otis B. Driftwood
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 25, 2015 16:02:13 GMT -5
Fucking...
Idiot.
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Post by Zig on Jan 25, 2015 16:14:30 GMT -5
yeah what a dumbass, especially if it's weed again. It is so easy to cover that stuff up.
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Otis B. Driftwood
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 25, 2015 16:53:33 GMT -5
yeah what a dumbass, especially if it's weed again. It is so easy to cover that stuff up. In his case even alcohol is gonna get him #3 because of his DWI. In any case - safe to say his 15 minutes in the NFL are just about done. He can't be trusted no matter how much talent he has. I sure as hell don't want him anywhere near the Cowboys. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 16:55:40 GMT -5
No sympathy...
My opinion on this is that a player (in any professional sport) signs a contract and that is immediately 'two strikes'. (s)He has signed a contract that basically says I will play for pay...and that part of that play includes the fact that people, especially young kids, will look up to me and some will try to mimic me. Whether I want it or not (looking at you Charles Barkley), you are a role model and must be held to those standards. Just because you are athletically better than 99% of the other people on the planet does NOT mean you can act any way you want. By choosing to put yourself in the limelight you are agreeing to hold yourself to a higher standard.
There. I said it.
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jan 25, 2015 16:59:01 GMT -5
NASCAR will miss him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 17:02:40 GMT -5
I loved the Frazier episode where Niles pronounced it "Na-Scar" |
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Post by Zig on Jan 25, 2015 17:11:52 GMT -5
yeah what a dumbass, especially if it's weed again. It is so easy to cover that stuff up. In his case even alcohol is gonna get him #3 because of his DWI. In any case - safe to say his 15 minutes in the NFL are just about done. He can't be trusted no matter how much talent he has. I sure as hell don't want him anywhere near the Cowboys. yeah it is for booze I guess. rules are rules I guess but it seems silly the NFL can tell adults they can't drink on their own time. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 25, 2015 17:31:36 GMT -5
Alcohol which is stupid. It is legal. it is like he's on parole |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 25, 2015 17:34:54 GMT -5
Alcohol which is stupid. It is legal. it is like he's on parole Well... after a DWI, I don't have much sympathy for him. And lets not forget - the NFLPA agreed to this. It isn't like the league is acting independently. Bottom line is the dude knows the rules. He's too fucking stupid not to comply. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 25, 2015 17:39:06 GMT -5
I loved the Frazier episode where Niles pronounced it "Na-Scar" You mean that's not how it's pronounced |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 18:15:59 GMT -5
I loved the Frazier episode where Niles pronounced it "Na-Scar" You mean that's not how it's pronounced This makes so much sense now....  |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 25, 2015 18:58:24 GMT -5
Alcohol which is stupid. It is legal. it is like he's on parole Well... after a DWI, I don't have much sympathy for him. And lets not forget - the NFLPA agreed to this. It isn't like the league is acting independently. Bottom line is the dude knows the rules. He's too fucking stupid not to comply. the rule for marijuana is stricter than the IOC's |
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Post by Leader O'Cola on Jan 26, 2015 2:17:26 GMT -5
lolol @ this idiot. Just threw away $20M plus, and already threw away $40M plus.
wait till your career is over, then drink and smoke wtf ever you want.
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Post by aka50yearfan on Jan 26, 2015 10:59:01 GMT -5
The good news is the Browns just opened up $1.6 million in cap space for 2015.
Bad news for Gordon- Ya just pushed back any chance for Free Agency until 2017 and if you clean your act up, ya get to spend another year in cleveland.
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Post by LoveItHateIt on Jan 26, 2015 15:34:13 GMT -5
No sympathy for him. Especially since he's been hanging out so publicly with Manziel. Which just screams 'random' drug test.
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Post by Zig on Jan 27, 2015 15:51:05 GMT -5
yeah what a dumbass, especially if it's weed again. It is so easy to cover that stuff up. Even easier to just not fucking smoke up or drink at all. This guy has the talent and had the resume to earn himself a 7 or 8 figure contract. For that kind of money it should be pretty damn easy to pass up the drugs and alcohol. And I'm not even saying give it up for life. These guys retire in their 30s. Earn the money now and party later. Yup |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 27, 2015 16:32:31 GMT -5
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Post by LoveItHateIt on Jan 29, 2015 14:25:30 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 29, 2015 14:40:47 GMT -5
Good read LIHI I knew that the marijuana part of his suspension was a joke (it is 10 times higher than the IOC and I'd fail it walking the hallways of my building) but that is the NFLPA's fault as much as the leagues they pay people far smarter than me to read thru these CBA's and give synopses on the pro's and con's of each section and if they had used the IOC standard (considered very tough) he would have been suspended for 2 games last season |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 14:50:17 GMT -5
He was tested after having a few drinks on a plane after the season? Wow. Harsh.
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Post by Flambo Gus on Jan 29, 2015 14:52:48 GMT -5
Changes nothing in my eyes. Yes, he's right to blast the ridiculous talking heads that weigh in on every minute detail in sports. Like Stephen A's asinine opinion on anything matters anyways.
On one hand, he's saying he doesn't blame his environment for his choices, but this:
"Again, I make no excuses for my past. That culture didn’t make me do anything I didn’t want to do, but when you judge me without actually knowing me, you deny the existence of the world I come from."
So which is it? Accept blame for your choices or not.
There are plenty of hardworking individuals out there with similar backgrounds who actively seek to make the best/correct choice. Saying you take full responsibility for your actions while continuing to mention your background is just blame shifting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 14:59:54 GMT -5
Changes nothing in my eyes. Yes, he's right to blast the ridiculous talking heads that weigh in on every minute detail in sports. Like Stephen A's asinine opinion on anything matters anyways.
On one hand, he's saying he doesn't blame his environment for his choices, but this:
"Again, I make no excuses for my past. That culture didn’t make me do anything I didn’t want to do, but when you judge me without actually knowing me, you deny the existence of the world I come from."
So which is it? Accept blame for your choices or not.
There are plenty of hardworking individuals out there with similar backgrounds who actively seek to make the best/correct choice. Saying you take full responsibility for your actions while continuing to mention your background is just blame shifting.
I agree. Doesn't change a thing. Also note that he says he was tested for those drinks on January 2nd, so I'm sure he was just drinking Diet Cokes when he was spotted with Manziel in Aspen a week later. |
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Post by LoveItHateIt on Jan 29, 2015 15:00:57 GMT -5
Changes nothing in my eyes. Yes, he's right to blast the ridiculous talking heads that weigh in on every minute detail in sports. Like Stephen A's asinine opinion on anything matters anyways.
On one hand, he's saying he doesn't blame his environment for his choices, but this:
"Again, I make no excuses for my past. That culture didn’t make me do anything I didn’t want to do, but when you judge me without actually knowing me, you deny the existence of the world I come from."
So which is it? Accept blame for your choices or not.
There are plenty of hardworking individuals out there with similar backgrounds who actively seek to make the best/correct choice. Saying you take full responsibility for your actions while continuing to mention your background is just blame shifting.
My interpretation on that is he's saying that to judge him without knowing where he came from is to not fully understand what he's overcome to get where he is. I don't think he's using it as an excuse - but rather accepting that his background does have basis in some of his bad choices. |
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Post by LoveItHateIt on Jan 29, 2015 15:02:53 GMT -5
Changes nothing in my eyes. Yes, he's right to blast the ridiculous talking heads that weigh in on every minute detail in sports. Like Stephen A's asinine opinion on anything matters anyways.
On one hand, he's saying he doesn't blame his environment for his choices, but this:
"Again, I make no excuses for my past. That culture didn’t make me do anything I didn’t want to do, but when you judge me without actually knowing me, you deny the existence of the world I come from."
So which is it? Accept blame for your choices or not.
There are plenty of hardworking individuals out there with similar backgrounds who actively seek to make the best/correct choice. Saying you take full responsibility for your actions while continuing to mention your background is just blame shifting.
I agree. Doesn't change a thing. Also note that he says he was tested for those drinks on January 2nd, so I'm sure he was just drinking Diet Cokes when he was spotted with Manziel in Aspen a week later. Diet cokes laced with second hand smoke. LOL Seriously though, it is plausible that he would believe that with the season ending that he wasn't doing anything wrong. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Feb 4, 2015 14:17:29 GMT -5
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