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Post by LoveItHateIt on Jan 26, 2015 17:14:16 GMT -5
Welp, Glazer just reported there's a locker room attendant they found as a 'person of interest'. JayGlazer
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Breaking news: sources tell @foxsports the NFL has zeroed in on a locker room attendant w Patriots who allegedly took balls from officials locker room to another area on way to field. Sources say they have interviewed him and additionally have video. Still gauging if any wrong doing occurred with him but he is strong person of interest Just heard this awhile ago LIHI. So... now we have a scapegoat that can be drawn and quartered for this terrible injustice to the world of professional sports.
Hope the dude doesn't get the chair.
I feel bad for the guy. He just did what he was told and now he's going to be 'rogue locker room attendant'. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 26, 2015 17:19:23 GMT -5
Just heard this awhile ago LIHI. So... now we have a scapegoat that can be drawn and quartered for this terrible injustice to the world of professional sports.
Hope the dude doesn't get the chair.
I feel bad for the guy. He just did what he was told and now he's going to be 'rogue locker room attendant'. I said way back they'd throw an employee under the bus. But the fact remains why would he do it (as per what Brunell said) unless Tom wanted them that way. Although they say that Peyton was the one that requested the team ball concept it was in concert with Brady and 20 other QB's. Have to get the Forensic Accountant out to see if the Pats give him 'hush money'  |
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Post by LoveItHateIt on Jan 26, 2015 17:30:05 GMT -5
I feel bad for the guy. He just did what he was told and now he's going to be 'rogue locker room attendant'. I said way back they'd throw an employee under the bus. But the fact remains why would he do it (as per what Brunell said) unless Tom wanted them that way. Although they say that Peyton was the one that requested the team ball concept it was in concert with Brady and 20 other QB's. Have to get the Forensic Accountant out to see if the Pats give him 'hush money' There's not a guy in the world who would do something any different than what Brady wanted. If they try to get us to believe otherwise, then they probably have a bridge to sell too. |
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Post by Center Ice on Jan 26, 2015 18:55:37 GMT -5
This one's on the NFL. Tale a lesson from MLB, the umps are in charge of the baseballs. How stupid is it to approve footballs 2 hours before the game then turn them back to the equipment managers. Get a grip NFL. NFL refs should keep the footballs protected until game time.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 28, 2015 3:38:50 GMT -5
www.wsj.com/articles/patriots-always-keep-a-tight-grip-on-the-ball-1422054846
)excerpt from story)Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3).
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Post by Zig on Jan 28, 2015 8:45:08 GMT -5
This one's on the NFL. Tale a lesson from MLB, the umps are in charge of the baseballs. How stupid is it to approve footballs 2 hours before the game then turn them back to the equipment managers. Get a grip NFL. NFL refs should keep the footballs protected until game time. you'd think there would be video of the officials inspecting the balls. That's still my belief- the balls were never up to snuff to begin with. That vid I posted kinda shows at least that official (who was being filmed) didnt take the inspection all that seriously. there's also that Vikings/Panthers game where both teams got caught breaking the same general rule by heating up the balls on the sideline. Heating a cold ball makes it softer, easier to catch, hold on too etc...same freaking thing thing basically. "No tampering with the ball in any way"...2 teams actually caught in the act and yet no discipline... absolutely no proof on the Pats(as far as we know anyway) and some are calling for bans for life lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 10:14:16 GMT -5
www.wsj.com/articles/patriots-always-keep-a-tight-grip-on-the-ball-1422054846
)excerpt from story)Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 11:02:20 GMT -5
www.wsj.com/articles/patriots-always-keep-a-tight-grip-on-the-ball-1422054846
)excerpt from story)Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3). Good article. Any analysis of fumbles per play or plays per fumble that doesn't strip at least incomplete passes from the data is skewed. How did Lawrence Maroney, Danny Woodhead, LaGarrette Blount, and Benjarvis Green Ellis get horrible skewed reception to rush ratios outside of New England? Really, BGE is going to have 498 receptions to only 26 rushes? LGB has 65 receptions and only 6 rushes? You'd have Lawrence Maroney catching 9x more passes than handoffs. That data is messed up.  |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 28, 2015 11:42:32 GMT -5
www.wsj.com/articles/patriots-always-keep-a-tight-grip-on-the-ball-1422054846
)excerpt from story)Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3). I was just trying to add fuel to the fire then you go piss all over it and put it out |
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Post by Zig on Jan 28, 2015 11:48:56 GMT -5
Ben Jarvis never fumbled in college either from what I've heard. He was our RB for 3 of those 5 years.. Also here if you fumble you end up on the bench, ask Ridley. Also unlike other teams the Pats actually practice outdoors in the elements and Bill does stuff to make the ball harder to hold
but yeah, that article already destroys the original story. Guy who wrote the original admitted some stuff he didnt really research that well. But hey he made a name for himself and made a few bucks
viva 'merica lol
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 30, 2015 0:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 30, 2015 12:45:52 GMT -5
You didnt watch the vid! The league officials DO inflate/deflate the balls. Or they are supposed to...they are then kept guarded until just before gametime. Hence why I can't see how the Pats could get away with what some think they did. Inside job. The refs were in on it. Which would explain why they never felt the difference in weight between the footballs New England was using and the footballs Indianapolis was using. Been a lot of crooked officiating this postseason. Heads need to roll IMO. Personally I'd begin with Dean Blandino. I second the motion |
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Post by Zig on Jan 31, 2015 6:33:53 GMT -5
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Post by Zig on Jan 31, 2015 15:24:23 GMT -5
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Post by Zig on Feb 1, 2015 14:04:54 GMT -5
Looking more and more like Zig was right ( as usual  ) www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000466783/article/more-details-on-the-investigation-of-patriots-deflated-footballskey points: the only ball "Well under" the legal limit? The one the Colts hand their hands on. The others, some were roughly 1 PSI under. some just barely under also the "ball boy" is actually an "elderly man"  so as I've been saying, the Pats presented for "inspection" footballs that were a little on the low side, like many teams do in hopes the official passes them. Just seems like the most plausible scenario to me. |
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