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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 21, 2015 13:54:35 GMT -5
What say you? Money only? How much? Money and picks? BB suspension? BB fired? Kraft forced to sell?! Brady to jail with Aaron Hernandez?
What's your best guess?
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Post by Center Ice on Jan 21, 2015 14:04:33 GMT -5
Does New England have the death penalty?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 14:05:57 GMT -5
15 yards for excessive alliteration. Tacked on to the end of the sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 14:07:14 GMT -5
burn the witches. burn them! BURNNNNNNN THEMMMMMMMM!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 14:08:56 GMT -5
Does New England have the death penalty? just chowder.
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Post by Zig on Jan 21, 2015 14:14:03 GMT -5
I think it'll be hard to actually prove they did anything wrong especially since as far as I know nobody was caught tampering with the balls so I'll say a "small" fine, maybe 100k or so just because they have to do something I guess. And probably they assign a league official to carefully guard the balls after they get inspected before the game. This is the biggest but not the only story out there about this sort of thing happening so something needs to change.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 21, 2015 14:14:09 GMT -5
15 yards for excessive alliteration. Tacked on to the end of the sentence. That leaves a terrible taste in the throat!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 14:15:20 GMT -5
"today on 96.7 with artie and the douche, we talks about doze cheatin bastid patriots and how it ruined da lives of everyone. Carla from manhattan, you're on with artie and the douuuuuccchhheeee"
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 21, 2015 14:16:41 GMT -5
250K and loss of a first round draft pick. Penalty would be less but Goddell will make a show of prior record of BB misdeeds.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 14:17:53 GMT -5
250K and loss of a first round draft pick. Penalty would be less but Goddell will make a show of prior record of BB misdeeds. if they hurry they can trade down for 5 fifth rounders.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 14:19:14 GMT -5
I think Zig is right. They will get a fine and that's it.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 21, 2015 14:21:57 GMT -5
I think it'll be hard to actually prove they did anything wrong especially since as far as I know nobody was caught tampering with the balls so I'll say a "small" fine, maybe 100k or so just because they have to do something I guess. And probably they assign a league official to carefully guard the balls after they get inspected before the game. This is the biggest but not the only story out there about this sort of thing happening so something needs to change. They make Kraft not be allowed to date anyone less than half his age
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Post by aka50yearfan on Jan 21, 2015 14:45:00 GMT -5
The colts should be more upset about who let the air out of their defensive players so much that they wanted no part of serious contact for almost half a game.
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 21, 2015 14:50:22 GMT -5
I'd still like to know what the game officials have to say about this... and not just the guys who inspected the balls before the game. You telling me that a couple of PSI is so significant that the guys who are spotting the ball during the game after every single play couldn't tell the difference?
I would think that a somewhat well-compensated league official might be aware of this discrepancy.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 21, 2015 15:01:59 GMT -5
I'd still like to know what the game officials have to say about this... and not just the guys who inspected the balls before the game. You telling me that a couple of PSI is so significant that the guys who are spotting the ball during the game after every single play couldn't tell the difference? I would think that a somewhat well-compensated league official might be aware of this discrepancy. LB notices it immediately. Officials don't. More cries for full time refs.
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jan 21, 2015 15:04:09 GMT -5
Does New England have the death penalty? just chowder. And crabs.
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Post by tnerb57 on Jan 21, 2015 15:09:10 GMT -5
I think it'll be hard to actually prove they did anything wrong especially since as far as I know nobody was caught tampering with the balls so I'll say a "small" fine, maybe 100k or so just because they have to do something I guess. And probably they assign a league official to carefully guard the balls after they get inspected before the game. This is the biggest but not the only story out there about this sort of thing happening so something needs to change. They make Kraft not be allowed to date anyone less than half his age The horror!
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jan 21, 2015 15:10:37 GMT -5
They make Kraft not be allowed to date anyone less than half his age The horror! I think you spelt that wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 15:32:00 GMT -5
I think you spelt that wrong. That was better than Risotto. Well done.
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jan 21, 2015 15:47:14 GMT -5
I think you spelt that wrong. That was better than Risotto. Well done. I dunno Grue. Risotto still makes me laugh and fact that they didn't get it makes it all the funnier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 15:50:23 GMT -5
These open threads are amusing. MOAR CBSers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 15:56:36 GMT -5
That was better than Risotto. Well done. I dunno Grue. Risotto still makes me laugh and fact that they didn't get it makes it all the funnier. oh, we got it. it was terrible, but we got it. "rice...risotto...get it?" windows are for seeing, not tasting.
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jan 21, 2015 15:59:33 GMT -5
I dunno Grue. Risotto still makes me laugh and fact that they didn't get it makes it all the funnier. oh, we got it. it was terrible, but we got it. "rice...risotto...get it?" windows are for seeing, not tasting. I guess Francis was right.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 16:05:53 GMT -5
I dunno Grue. Risotto still makes me laugh and fact that they didn't get it makes it all the funnier. oh, we got it. it was terrible, but we got it. "rice...risotto...get it?" windows are for seeing, not tasting. My mommy always locked my door to keep the bad people out.
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Post by lemiwinks on Jan 21, 2015 16:39:29 GMT -5
what do i think?
I think Cereal rapes elderly donkeys.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 21, 2015 17:07:23 GMT -5
what do i think? I think Cereal rapes elderly donkeys. You can't prove that.
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Post by CWJim on Jan 21, 2015 17:50:11 GMT -5
I had to quit listening to the radio today because of how all the sports shows were going on about that crap! The media is taking this too far.
I got my son an official NFL ball years ago, and they pass better fully inflated I think, and when new, it is like they have stick-um on them, even when wet. Deflated may be easier on a WR hands, but they all wear gloves, which are super awesome and sticky too.
I don`t see why this is such a big issue.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 21, 2015 18:44:02 GMT -5
I'd still like to know what the game officials have to say about this... and not just the guys who inspected the balls before the game. You telling me that a couple of PSI is so significant that the guys who are spotting the ball during the game after every single play couldn't tell the difference? I would think that a somewhat well-compensated league official might be aware of this discrepancy. LB notices it immediately. Officials don't. More cries for full time refs. Apparently they raised these issues after their November game abcnews.go.com/Sports/deflate-gate-nfl-continuing-review-england-patriots-inflated/story?id=28365105
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 22, 2015 5:26:00 GMT -5
1. New England ran the ball down the Colts throats to the tune of 3 touchdowns 2. Indianapolis only put 7 points on the board all game. Psi in the Pats footballs has no impact on that. With that said, if it were any other franchise I'd say a slap on the wrist penalty at best. But with Bill Belichick's history, it should merit a slightly stronger response from the league. IMO you target the coach. They fined him after SpyGate, so fines don't work. A short suspension makes more sense to me. Make Belichick miss a few games early next season. That might actually have an impact on his willingness to seek out illegal advantages. I agree let's start the suspension with the Super Bowl
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 22, 2015 8:07:06 GMT -5
Some things to know as NFL investigates Patriots' footballsHere are some things to know about the issue: CHAIN OF CUSTODY: Footballs are delivered to the officials' dressing room 2 hours, 15 minutes before kickoff. The referee inspects each one, with a pump provided by the home team to adjust air pressure as needed. Footballs are required to have at least 12.5 psi and no more than 13.5 psi. Releasing air can make the football easier to grip, especially when wet. Some quarterbacks prefer a softer ball to control the spin more, while others like more air. A drop in temperature — from the officials' dressing room to an outdoor field — also can cause a football to lose pressure. THE REF RULES: The referee is the sole judge of whether a ball is fit for play and marks each one approved for the game. The rule says the footballs "shall remain under the supervision of the Referee until they are delivered to the ball attendant just prior to the start of the game." The referee for the game was Walt Anderson. A key question in the investigation is whether the balls improperly passed inspection or were either switched or tampered with after Anderson's inspection. As the home team, the Patriots were responsible for having someone handle the footballs on each sideline. BALL CONTROL: Footballs are sent directly to teams. Equipment managers can brush them and even use a damp towel to rub off the oil used to preserve the leather to the preferences of each quarterback. The quarterbacks can even practice with the footballs during a game week as long as the footballs remain in good enough condition to pass the referee's inspection as a new ball. Each team brings at least 12 balls each, so Tom Brady threw footballs provided by the Patriots while Andrew Luck handled footballs brought by the Colts. POTENTIAL PUNISHMENT: If the NFL finds anyone with the Patriots underinflated the footballs, Commissioner Roger Goodell has wide latitude for punishment. This includes a fine that can be as low as $25,000 for anyone deemed responsible for tampering with a football, even if it's the head coach. Goodell could strip the team of draft picks, suspend people for "unfair acts," and reverse a game's result or reschedule a game. FURTHER REVIEW: Steelers president Art Rooney II said Wednesday he expects the competition committee to study whether the rule should change, but he thinks everyone should use the same balls. "It would seem to be simpler to have one set of balls, which was the case for many years," Rooney said. "The officials brought the balls out and everybody used the same ball, and it seems like that would be an easy answer to this." Worth noting... this rule regarding each team having "their own footballs" came about at the behest of one Peyton Manning (or - so it is being reported by one of the best "football" guys in the business). And - does anyone else get a chuckle out of the comment "Commissioner Roger Goodell has wide latitude for punishment..."? Seems to me he doesn't do well when it comes to "wide latitude".
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