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Post by BUCCS469 on Jun 6, 2014 13:00:52 GMT -5
it absolutely is....they are very similar save for a few things vizquel would have to play another 10 seasons to strike out as much as jeter vizquel played better defense at 45 than jetes played when he was 25 vizquel was a better base stealer Omar vizquel never had a season where he batted .300 in a 24 year career He has 500 LESS hits in 4 MORE seasons Why are we having this conversation less hits....but you admit everything else is true |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 6, 2014 13:01:02 GMT -5
led the league in hits twice and runs scored once
both times he led the league in hits, he also lead the league in plate appearances.
not a compiler
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:01:09 GMT -5
He led the entire league in hits in 2011 That was 2012 superfan...notice, I excluded it...in 2011 he was as mediocre as it gets... LOL Batted .316 15 and 58 with 216 hITS All numbers Boegarts wont sniff this season, and you have been masturbating to him all season Jeter H |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:02:02 GMT -5
Omar vizquel never had a season where he batted .300 in a 24 year career He has 500 LESS hits in 4 MORE seasons Why are we having this conversation less hits....but you admit everything else is true I stopped looking when the comparison became silly Jeter wasnt a power source, this isnt news |
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 6, 2014 13:02:20 GMT -5
it absolutely is....they are very similar save for a few things vizquel would have to play another 10 seasons to strike out as much as jeter vizquel played better defense at 45 than jetes played when he was 25 vizquel was a better base stealer Omar vizquel never had a season where he batted .300 in a 24 year career He has 500 LESS hits in 4 MORE seasons Why are we having this conversation They have virtually the same amount of plate appearance..."seasons" is a bad measurement...because using that logic you're equating seasons like Jeter last year, to 2012... Jeter was a MUCH better hitter... Vizquel was on another planet defensively... I'd value the bat more, and I'd take Jeter over him...but it's much closer than you're going to be willing to admit. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:02:50 GMT -5
led the league in hits twice and runs scored once both times he led the league in hits, he also lead the league in plate appearances. not a compiler Now leading the league in hits is important Which is it? |
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Post by BUCCS469 on Jun 6, 2014 13:03:27 GMT -5
led the majors in plate appearances 5 times.....but the 2 times he led the league in hits were in those 5 seasons.....he kompiled extra at bats and through sheer volume lucked his way into it.....
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 6, 2014 13:04:21 GMT -5
That was 2012 superfan...notice, I excluded it...in 2011 he was as mediocre as it gets... LOL Batted .316 15 and 58 with 216 hITS All numbers Boegarts wont sniff this season, and you have been masturbating to him all season Jeter H He'll pass both HR's and RBI's... Batting aveage? A smidge lower...but his OBP will be higher and he'll hit for more overall power... And he's a 21 year old rookie.. And I excluded that season from his compiling resume.... 5 of the his final 7 seasons...one he was hurt for most of it... It is what it is dude... |
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Post by bigddude on Jun 6, 2014 13:04:36 GMT -5
singling to right unnecessary jump throws striking out at an alarming rate playing horrific defense all qualities you want in a short stop But, but,............he's DRIVEN. And, those other intangibles....... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:05:14 GMT -5
led the majors in plate appearances 5 times.....but the 2 times he led the league in hits were in those 5 seasons.....he kompiled extra at bats and through sheer volume lucked his way into it..... Now lets knock his durability and reliability |
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Post by BUCCS469 on Jun 6, 2014 13:05:30 GMT -5
you could have put rey ordonez in that yankee line up and he would have put up similar numbers to jeter....plus he would have played much much beter defense.....if jeter played in milwaukee he would have been fernando vina.....nothing more....nothing less
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:06:00 GMT -5
LOL Batted .316 15 and 58 with 216 hITS All numbers Boegarts wont sniff this season, and you have been masturbating to him all season Jeter H He'll pass both HR's and RBI's... Batting aveage? A smidge lower...but his OBP will be higher and he'll hit for more overall power... And he's a 21 year old rookie.. And I excluded that season from his compiling resume.... 5 of the his final 7 seasons...one he was hurt for most of it... It is what it is dude... Hes' way short of both paces Big assumption on your part |
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Post by BUCCS469 on Jun 6, 2014 13:06:26 GMT -5
singling to right unnecessary jump throws striking out at an alarming rate playing horrific defense all qualities you want in a short stop But, but,............he's DRIVEN. And, those other intangibles....... word......you cant measure heart and the will to strike out like jose hernandez |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:06:29 GMT -5
you could have put rey ordonez in that yankee line up and he would have put up similar numbers to jeter....plus he would have played much much beter defense.....if jeter played in milwaukee he would have been fernando vina.....nothing more....nothing less Ok, One down Who's next |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 6, 2014 13:06:35 GMT -5
led the league in hits twice and runs scored once both times he led the league in hits, he also lead the league in plate appearances. not a compiler Now leading the league in hits is important Which is it? never said it wasnt just saying he was a slap hitting bitch, and that he had to have the most appearances to do it. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:09:03 GMT -5
I stopped looking when the comparison became silly Jeter wasnt a power source, this isnt news pedroia gets bashed for his lack of power At 30 years old, jeter obliterates Pedroia in HR's and RBI's Whats next? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:09:56 GMT -5
Now leading the league in hits is important Which is it? never said it wasnt just saying he was a slap hitting bitch, and that he had to have the most appearances to do it. heres a newsflash Being reliable for 162 is not something to criticize |
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Post by BUCCS469 on Jun 6, 2014 13:10:05 GMT -5
you could have put rey ordonez in that yankee line up and he would have put up similar numbers to jeter....plus he would have played much much beter defense.....if jeter played in milwaukee he would have been fernando vina.....nothing more....nothing less Ok, One down Who's next so you admit im right.... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jun 6, 2014 13:14:08 GMT -5
so you admit im right.... yes, every rational person agrees Rey Ordonez and Derek Jeter are the same hitters |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 6, 2014 13:15:17 GMT -5
pedroia gets bashed for his lack of power At 30 years old, jeter obliterates Pedroia in HR's and RBI's Whats next? so now jeter is a power guy? make up your mind |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 6, 2014 13:15:22 GMT -5
never said it wasnt just saying he was a slap hitting bitch, and that he had to have the most appearances to do it. heres a newsflash Being reliable for 162 is not something to criticize that would be true if he ever played 162 games in the regular season |
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Post by Zig on Jun 6, 2014 13:16:23 GMT -5
22. Carlos Delgado 1745 20. Andruw Jones and Dale Murphy 1748 19 Graig Biggio 1753 (for soil) 18. Bobby Bonds 1757 17. Ken Griffey Jr 1779 16. Derekkk Jeter 1788 15. Manny Ramirez 1813 14. Dave Kingman 1816 13. Bobby Abreu 1819 12. Tony Perez 1867 updated |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 6, 2014 13:16:54 GMT -5
5 times in 20 years, jeter has more strikeouts than runs scored.
and he was a "run creator"
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Post by BUCCS469 on Jun 6, 2014 13:17:08 GMT -5
so you admit im right.... yes, every rational person agrees Rey Ordonez and Derek Jeter are the same hitters i said if ondonez played in that line up......becuase jetes was afforded all the protection in the world.... id rather have jared sanberg hitting behind me than bernie williams ~no one ever in the history of the world |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 6, 2014 13:21:18 GMT -5
"Classic Compiler" is a guy that has for years and years the season Jeter is finally having now Thats a classic compiler Been a below average hitter since 2010...this would make it 5 years of compiling by my count. Really 4 because he was an average hitter in 2012...you could go back to 2008 and add another, which would mean 5 of his last 7 seasons were classic compilers... It wouldn't be as bad if he had moved of short, the fact he's stayed there so long embarrassing himself exacerbates the compiling image. hitting .316 and leading the league in hits = average? seriously dude? cmon. i'd love to jump on the jeter bashing, but that's just retarded. |
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Post by The Bag on Jun 6, 2014 13:22:16 GMT -5
Been a below average hitter since 2010...this would make it 5 years of compiling by my count. Really 4 because he was an average hitter in 2012...you could go back to 2008 and add another, which would mean 5 of his last 7 seasons were classic compilers... It wouldn't be as bad if he had moved of short, the fact he's stayed there so long embarrassing himself exacerbates the compiling image. He led the entire league in hits in 2012 FIFY |
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Post by down38str8 on Jun 6, 2014 13:23:40 GMT -5
Been a below average hitter since 2010...this would make it 5 years of compiling by my count. Really 4 because he was an average hitter in 2012...you could go back to 2008 and add another, which would mean 5 of his last 7 seasons were classic compilers... It wouldn't be as bad if he had moved of short, the fact he's stayed there so long embarrassing himself exacerbates the compiling image. hitting .316 and leading the league in hits = average? seriously dude? cmon. i'd love to jump on the jeter bashing, but that's just retarded. That honestly should say "above average"...he had a 114 OPS+ that year..."above average" If it was merely average I'd have included it...like I included his mediocre as fuck 2011 season... |
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 6, 2014 13:28:34 GMT -5
if you're good enough to stay in the league ... you're not a compiler
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jun 6, 2014 14:05:18 GMT -5
Abreu actually is a moving target and up to 1825.
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Post by Zig on Jun 6, 2014 14:07:21 GMT -5
Abreu actually is a moving target and up to 1825. yeah I half assed it lol |
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