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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 23:28:00 GMT -5
He makes good decisions because he doesn't have to force the ball into uncomfortable situations and he usually plays with the lead. He also knows that if he doesn't do well on his possession that his defense will most likely pick him up. Luck knows that if he doesn't score, the other offense will. Completely different scenarios. If it's not ok for me to project hypotheticals, than why can you opine that Wilson is better than Luck when it's not a controlled experiment?Maybe your first point has merit. If you want a pure numbers argument (which in football is as flawed as it gets) and not a hypothetical, then Wilson blows Luck away. www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htmwww.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LuckAn00.htmIt does. Take a pitcher who trusts his offense versus one who doesn't. A pitcher that doesn't trust his offense will have to pick the corners and may "miss" some days and get a lot more walks, higher pitch counts and more stressful innings. A higher WHIP and ERA are much more likely. A pitcher who trusts his offense can throw more fastballs, strikes and challenge pitches because he knows there is room for error. When I evaluate players, I do a blend of the "eye test" and the coach/team hypothetical test (where I think if I were to just switch the QB and leave the rest the same). I fully admit, I don't know as much about football as a lot of you, but I have played a lot of different sports for a lot of different coaches. I know enough to know that certain teams/coaches put me in a much better position to succeed than others. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I disagree. Given the same teams, same coaches, same stadiums, I'm picking Luck over Wilson. I can also assure you that I've been wrong many, many times in my life. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 23:32:11 GMT -5
So what about the Brady hype for the past 5 or so years? I dont think he's the next Joe Montana, but the guy can play. He'd start on most teams.....I'd definitely take him over Kaepernick, Wilson, or Brady based on the last 3 seasons. lol Brady hype the last 5 years? Not even sure what to say to that...He fell off last year...His stats last year were very similar (but slightly better) to Luck's...and I hear how Brady was awful... you've been hangin with these dicks too long ha ha But yeah I'd def take him over Kap. Wilson is a tougher call but I'd prolly go Luck. gotta hit the hay...have a good one Brady isn't beginning his career on a bad team for the last 5 years either. He's on a team that he knows inside and out and an offense he feels comfortable with. Brady isn't awful either.....he's very good, he just doesn't match his hype.....much like. Luck. I'd take him over Kaep and Wilson and it isn't even that close. Wilson and Kaep are still good QB's. It's just an amateurs opinion based off of watching games. I think Brady is good.....not like most of these yahoos. night Zig, have a good one man. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 15, 2014 23:37:57 GMT -5
It does. Take a pitcher who trusts his offense versus one who doesn't. A pitcher that doesn't trust his offense will have to pick the corners and may "miss" some days and get a lot more walks, higher pitch counts and more stressful innings. A higher WHIP and ERA are much more likely. A pitcher who trusts his offense can throw more fastballs, strikes and challenge pitches because he knows there is room for error. When I evaluate players, I do a blend of the "eye test" and the coach/team hypothetical test. I fully admit, I don't know as much about football as a lot of you, but I have played a lot of different sports for a lot of different coaches. I know enough to know that certain teams/coaches put me in a much better position to succeed than others. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I disagree. Given the same teams, same coaches, same stadiums, I'm picking Luck over Wilson. I can also assure you that I've been wrong many, many times in my life. Haha believe me, so have I. And I will be many more times in the future. Luck is more physically talented for sure. He's bigger, has a better arm, and can elude the rush or run if he has to. I like Wilson though. He's a very good player. I think he's criminally underrated simply because he has a good team around him. He has outperformed Luck so far in their respective careers in almost every measure. That being said, if I were starting a team from scratch I'd take Luck precisely because of his physical superiority, which gives him a higher ceiling than Wilson. But Seattle isn't winning the SB without Wilson playing well. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 23:45:29 GMT -5
It does. Take a pitcher who trusts his offense versus one who doesn't. A pitcher that doesn't trust his offense will have to pick the corners and may "miss" some days and get a lot more walks, higher pitch counts and more stressful innings. A higher WHIP and ERA are much more likely. A pitcher who trusts his offense can throw more fastballs, strikes and challenge pitches because he knows there is room for error. When I evaluate players, I do a blend of the "eye test" and the coach/team hypothetical test. I fully admit, I don't know as much about football as a lot of you, but I have played a lot of different sports for a lot of different coaches. I know enough to know that certain teams/coaches put me in a much better position to succeed than others. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I disagree. Given the same teams, same coaches, same stadiums, I'm picking Luck over Wilson. I can also assure you that I've been wrong many, many times in my life. Haha believe me, so have I. And I will be many more times in the future. Luck is more physically talented for sure. He's bigger, has a better arm, and can elude the rush or run if he has to. I like Wilson though. He's a very good player. I think he's criminally underrated simply because he has a good team around him. He has outperformed Luck so far in their respective careers in almost every measure. That being said, if I were starting a team from scratch I'd take Luck precisely because of his physical superiority, which gives him a higher ceiling than Wilson. But Seattle isn't winning the SB without Wilson playing well. Lol, you and me both JD. Pretty much agree with everything you said. Also, for the record, I like Russell Wilson, I think he's a damn fine QB. I think if you switch him and Kaep, the 49ers win the Super Bowl last year and not the Seahawks. I just like Luck better than both of them. have a good one JD, I'm off to bed. |
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