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Post by jets12 on Aug 7, 2014 16:13:07 GMT -5
TD's and rating have gone up every year 20 27 33 thats a nice trend John Elway used to be a choke artist too. Then his team cheated. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:14:27 GMT -5
i like dalton still. i just think so far, in big games, he wilts
he threw 7 of his 20 pics last year against baltimore
and the playoffs? well hes a 56.2
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:14:48 GMT -5
John Elway used to be a choke artist too. Then his team cheated. He got Eugene Robinson arrested? |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 7, 2014 16:17:41 GMT -5
He got Eugene Robinson arrested? That was the Jets year!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:20:05 GMT -5
TD's and rating have gone up every year 20 27 33 thats a nice trend Sure is...and doesn't mean squat. No QB numbers do anymore. Boomer won a league MVP and led his team to the Super Bowl. I'm not even sure if Dalton is better than Jeff Blake yet. meh, relying on just a league MVP is weak. shaun alexander won one...he was out of football what, 2 years later? 1988 was a very, very odd year...he won by default (and i was a big boomer fan as a kid) they led the league in scoring, mostly why he got it |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:20:20 GMT -5
He got Eugene RobiVinnson arrested? That was the Jets year!!!!!!!!!!! Vinny to Chrebet! I used to love watching that team. |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 7, 2014 16:22:56 GMT -5
That was the Jets year!!!!!!!!!!! Vinny to Chrebet! I used to love watching that team. I like this guy. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:24:34 GMT -5
man, went back and looked that 88 bengal team over
james brooks and the icky shuffle, 1,997 yards, 23 TD's, 5.2 per carry
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 16:25:31 GMT -5
Sure is...and doesn't mean squat. No QB numbers do anymore. Boomer won a league MVP and led his team to the Super Bowl. I'm not even sure if Dalton is better than Jeff Blake yet. meh, replying on just a league MVP is weak. shaun alexander won one...he was out of football what, 2 years later? 1988 was a very, very odd year...he won by default (and i was a big boomer fan as a kid) they led the league in scoring, mostly why he got it Who gives a shit if Alexander was out of the league 2 years later? He won it in the year he played. Running backs can lose it in an instant. And no, Boomer didn't win it by default. He was excellent that season, particularly the first 10-12 games or so. Believe me, I remember. I hated that team. I stood up and did the Ickey shuffle in front of the TV watching the game with a basement full of Bengal marks seconds after Taylor caught the TD pass in the Super Bowl. Dalton is in no way, shape, or form a better player than Boomer Esiason at this point. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 16:27:37 GMT -5
man, went back and looked that 88 bengal team over james brooks and the icky shuffle, 1,997 yards, 23 TD's, 5.2 per carry Yeah, and Boomer was the master at the play fake. That team was lethal...and I fucking hated them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:30:34 GMT -5
meh, replying on just a league MVP is weak. shaun alexander won one...he was out of football what, 2 years later? 1988 was a very, very odd year...he won by default (and i was a big boomer fan as a kid) they led the league in scoring, mostly why he got it Who gives a shit if Alexander was out of the league 2 years later? He won it in the year he played. Running backs can lose it in an instant. And no, Boomer didn't win it by default. He was excellent that season, particularly the first 10-12 games or so. Believe me, I remember. I hated that team. I stood up and did the Ickey shuffle in front of the TV watching the game with a basement full of Bengal marks seconds after Taylor caught the TD pass in the Super Bowl. Dalton is in no way, shape, or form a better player than Boomer Esiason at this point. montana had a terrible year (by his standards) in 1988 rice only caught 64 balls, so thats 2 guys off the list that year... a lot of big names underperformed that year who were the other candidates? id be curious |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 7, 2014 16:33:17 GMT -5
90 minutes until geno.
Yam is excited......i bet he is tuning in to all the preseason action tonight!
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 16:33:15 GMT -5
Who gives a shit if Alexander was out of the league 2 years later? He won it in the year he played. Running backs can lose it in an instant. And no, Boomer didn't win it by default. He was excellent that season, particularly the first 10-12 games or so. Believe me, I remember. I hated that team. I stood up and did the Ickey shuffle in front of the TV watching the game with a basement full of Bengal marks seconds after Taylor caught the TD pass in the Super Bowl. Dalton is in no way, shape, or form a better player than Boomer Esiason at this point. montana had a terrible year (by his standards) in 1988 rice only caught 64 balls, so thats 2 guys off the list that year... a lot of big names underperformed that year who were the other candidates? id be curious Jim Kelly probably. That was the first year of Buffalo becoming who they would eventually become. Ickey Woods for sure. He was THE star of the league that year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:37:32 GMT -5
montana had a terrible year (by his standards) in 1988 rice only caught 64 balls, so thats 2 guys off the list that year... a lot of big names underperformed that year who were the other candidates? id be curious Jim Kelly probably. That was the first year of Buffalo becoming who they would eventually become. Ickey Woods for sure. He was THE star of the league that year. so a guy who didnt even get 1100 yards rushing (66 per game) and a QB with a 78 rating were beat out for MVP by boomers 97 rating? thats what i mean, kind of a weak crop |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 16:39:49 GMT -5
Jim Kelly probably. That was the first year of Buffalo becoming who they would eventually become. Ickey Woods for sure. He was THE star of the league that year. so a guy who didnt even get 1100 yards rushing (66 per game) and a QB with a 78 rating were beat out for MVP by boomers 97 rating? thats what i mean, kind of a weak crop I didn't even look at anybody's numbers. I was just going off the top of my head. And a 97 rating in 1988 equates to what in today's game? 110? 120? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:41:43 GMT -5
so a guy who didnt even get 1100 yards rushing (66 per game) and a QB with a 78 rating were beat out for MVP by boomers 97 rating? thats what i mean, kind of a weak crop I didn't even look at anybody's numbers. I was just going off the top of my head. And a 97 rating in 1988 equates to what in today's game? 110? 120? yes, it was a high rating for the era kinda my point...led the league in scoring, rating...and no other legit candidates...it was boomer or nobody else it wasnt like the year manning and mcnair split MVP |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:44:13 GMT -5
Vinny to Chrebet! I used to love watching that team. I like this guy. The only thing that was bad about that team was boomer saying. "Curtis my favorite martin" That was awful. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 16:46:38 GMT -5
I didn't even look at anybody's numbers. I was just going off the top of my head. And a 97 rating in 1988 equates to what in today's game? 110? 120? yes, it was a high rating for the era kinda my point...led the league in scoring, rating...and no other legit candidates...it was boomer or nobody else it wasnt like the year manning and mcnair split MVP Roger Craig had over 2000 yards combined rushing/receiving. Randall Cunningham threw for 3800 yards, 24 TD's, and rushed for 624 yards and 6 TD's. And yeah, Boomer led in all those things, on the best team in football that year...which means he deserved it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:48:39 GMT -5
yes, it was a high rating for the era kinda my point...led the league in scoring, rating...and no other legit candidates...it was boomer or nobody else it wasnt like the year manning and mcnair split MVP Roger Craig had over 2000 yards combined rushing/receiving. Randall Cunningham threw for 3800 yards, 24 TD's, and rushed for 624 yards and 6 TD's. And yeah, Boomer led in all those things, on the best team in football that year...which means he deserved it. Here is the thing. If Dalton wins 1 Bowl and keeps his stats up he is a shoe in. If he just keeps his stats up..he had a chance. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:49:38 GMT -5
yes, it was a high rating for the era kinda my point...led the league in scoring, rating...and no other legit candidates...it was boomer or nobody else it wasnt like the year manning and mcnair split MVP Roger Craig had over 2000 yards combined rushing/receiving. Randall Cunningham threw for 3800 yards, 24 TD's, and rushed for 624 yards and 6 TD's. And yeah, Boomer led in all those things, on the best team in football that year...which means he deserved it. i know, i looked at all of that my first thought was cunningham, but it was a down year for him compared to others in his prime roger craig was way overjetered IMO in that offense |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:49:56 GMT -5
Any significance to Dalton and Boomer being gingers?
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 16:51:34 GMT -5
Roger Craig had over 2000 yards combined rushing/receiving. Randall Cunningham threw for 3800 yards, 24 TD's, and rushed for 624 yards and 6 TD's. And yeah, Boomer led in all those things, on the best team in football that year...which means he deserved it. Here is the thing. If Dalton wins 1 Bowl and keeps his stats up he is a shoe in. If he just keeps his stats up..he had a chance. No, he has to at least get to a Super Bowl. QB stats in today's game don't mean shit. Everybody throws for 4K |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:53:06 GMT -5
Here is the thing. If Dalton wins 1 Bowl and keeps his stats up he is a shoe in. If he just keeps his stats up..he had a chance. No, he has to at least get to a Super Bowl. QB stats in today's game don't mean shit. Everybody throws for 4K That's true. Maybe just get there. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 16:55:15 GMT -5
No, he has to at least get to a Super Bowl. QB stats in today's game don't mean shit. Everybody throws for 4K That's true. Maybe just get there. Yeah I think if he just gets there he'll go ahead of Boomer. If he wins he beats Kenny Anderson, who IMO was better than Boomer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:55:40 GMT -5
Boomer had a 129 QBR+ that year
Josh McCown this past year had his own 129 QBR+ Which was a 109 rating. Good for 3rd behind Peyton and Foles
So if QBR+ is accurate measure (you be the judge)
97=109 by today's standards..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:56:28 GMT -5
That's true. Maybe just get there. Yeah I think if he just gets there he'll go ahead of Boomer. If he wins he beats Kenny Anderson, who IMO was better than Boomer. They will definitely give him credit for having a big part in turning that franchise around. They are still my dark horse for this year. |
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Post by Chappion on Aug 7, 2014 16:58:31 GMT -5
TD's and rating have gone up every year 20 27 33 thats a nice trend John Elway used to be a choke artist too. Peyton Manning still IS considered a choke artist. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:59:59 GMT -5
John Elway used to be a choke artist too. Peyton Manning still IS considered a choke artist. Lots of broncos fans in this area. I live poking them almost as much as the Patriots fans. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 7, 2014 17:00:29 GMT -5
Yeah I think if he just gets there he'll go ahead of Boomer. If he wins he beats Kenny Anderson, who IMO was better than Boomer. They will definitely give him credit for having a big part in turning that franchise around. They are still my dark horse for this year. No doubt. If they win big he'll get a lot of credit. I think last year was their opportunity though. They had the best roster in the AFC and they blew it. |
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Post by Chappion on Aug 7, 2014 17:00:45 GMT -5
He got Eugene Robinson arrested? That was the Jets year!!!!!!!!!!! 1969? |
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