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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 20:54:36 GMT -5
LOL You toss so much shit at the wall Geno Smith's QB rating last season is nearly 30 points lower than Tom Brady's playoff rating... Think about that... Geno will absolutely not last long if he is costing the team games They will as usual have a Top 10 defense minimum Their running game will be very good, I think they led the league with Thomas Jones and Shonne Green one season Thats a solid collection of backs....Outside of the elite guys in the league, not many teams are trotting out a unit better than that Youre right, theres potential to be dreaadful in the passing game, so we'll see |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 20:54:51 GMT -5
LOL You toss so much shit at the wall Geno Smith's QB rating last season is nearly 30 points lower than Tom Brady's playoff rating... Think about that... Geno will absolutely not last long if he is costing the team games They will as usual have a Top 10 defense minimum Their running game will be very good, I think they led the league with Thomas Jones and Shonne Green one season Thats a solid collection of backs....Outside of the elite guys in the league, not many teams are trotting out a unit better than that Youre right, theres potential to be dreaadful in the passing game, so we'll see |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 20:58:12 GMT -5
Jets 2013 wins...
Falcons, Buccs, Bills, Dolphins, Browns, Raiders, Saints and Pats...
Assuming they find a way to split with the Fins and Bills this year, I give them two wins there... I'm gonna go ahead and put them down for two losses against Revis...
I can give them a split with the Oakland and Minnesota games...
That gets them to 3 wins in 8 games...
So what's left...
Packers, Bears, Chiefs, Broncos, Steelers, Chargers, Titans, Lions....
Who is penciling the Jets in for winning more than two of those games with Geno Smith at QB?
Maybe they're beating the Titans and the Lions?
Talk me through taking the over on a 5.5 win season with Geno Smith leading that team?
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 20:59:56 GMT -5
Jets 2013 wins... Falcons, Buccs, Bills, Dolphins, Browns, Raiders, Saints and Pats... Assuming they find a way to split with the Fins and Bills this year, I give them two wins there... I'm gonna go ahead and put them down for two losses against Revis... I can give them a split with the Oakland and Minnesota games... That gets them to 3 wins in 8 games... So what's left... Packers, Bears, Chiefs, Broncos, Steelers, Chargers, Titans, Lions.... Who is penciling the Jets in for winning more than two of those games with Geno Smith at QB? Maybe they're beating the Titans and the Lions? Talk me through taking the over on a 5.5 win season with Geno Smith leading that team? As usual, football wont quite work out the way its usually predicted |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 21:01:11 GMT -5
Jets 2013 wins... Falcons, Buccs, Bills, Dolphins, Browns, Raiders, Saints and Pats... Assuming they find a way to split with the Fins and Bills this year, I give them two wins there... I'm gonna go ahead and put them down for two losses against Revis... I can give them a split with the Oakland and Minnesota games... That gets them to 3 wins in 8 games... So what's left... Packers, Bears, Chiefs, Broncos, Steelers, Chargers, Titans, Lions.... Who is penciling the Jets in for winning more than two of those games with Geno Smith at QB? Maybe they're beating the Titans and the Lions? Talk me through taking the over on a 5.5 win season with Geno Smith leading that team? I'll take the over.......every.fucking.day. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:03:14 GMT -5
And if Michael Vick really doesn't start a game this season? The Jets won't win more than five games... Just stop.....you know i'm not biting on shit like this. Ok, let's do this in a calmer fashion... Talk me through what gives you confidence that a team led by Geno Smith and his 56% completion rate, 12 TD, 21 INT and 6.9 YPC is going to make the leap to take this team and "do some damage" Talk me through it... |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 21:03:54 GMT -5
You talk like I'm crazy snoogins.
Most Patriots fans were calling the Jets the worst team in the league this time last year. Talks of 3-5 wins. I said they would win 7-10 games and you all laughed.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:07:56 GMT -5
Jets 2013 wins... Falcons, Buccs, Bills, Dolphins, Browns, Raiders, Saints and Pats... Assuming they find a way to split with the Fins and Bills this year, I give them two wins there... I'm gonna go ahead and put them down for two losses against Revis... I can give them a split with the Oakland and Minnesota games... That gets them to 3 wins in 8 games... So what's left... Packers, Bears, Chiefs, Broncos, Steelers, Chargers, Titans, Lions.... Who is penciling the Jets in for winning more than two of those games with Geno Smith at QB? Maybe they're beating the Titans and the Lions? Talk me through taking the over on a 5.5 win season with Geno Smith leading that team? As usual, football wont quite work out the way its usually predicted So you're gonna just go ahead and pick the Jets to overachieve two years in a row because the ball bounces funny? vegas loves guys like you... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 21:09:53 GMT -5
As usual, football wont quite work out the way its usually predicted So you're gonna just go ahead and pick the Jets to overachieve two years in a row because the ball bounces funny? vegas loves guys like you... Because for the 2nd time now, they have a far better roster than last season if Vegas is setting them at 5.5 (which they absolutely are not doing), they would lose a bundle |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:12:01 GMT -5
You talk like I'm crazy snoogins. Most Patriots fans were calling the Jets the worst team in the league this time last year. Talks of 3-5 wins. I said they would win 7-10 games and you all laughed. I just don't put much stock in the games they stole last year. I really don't. Geno Smith threw 12 TDs and 21 INTs man... You can only milk his game vs Atlanta for so long... He is worse than most backup QBs... |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 21:13:07 GMT -5
Ok Vegas has the Jets at 7.
I'd take the over every day with 7 being a push.......no way the Jets are 6 or less.
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:15:31 GMT -5
So you're gonna just go ahead and pick the Jets to overachieve two years in a row because the ball bounces funny? vegas loves guys like you... Because for the 2nd time now, they have a far better roster than last season if Vegas is setting them at 5.5 (which they absolutely are not doing), they would lose a bundle Vegas has the over/under for the Jets at 7 right now... I'm banging the under... And that includes the Vick factor.. If the Jets floss 16 Geno Smith starts? I'm straight stealing money from the bookies... stealing it.. |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 21:16:02 GMT -5
You talk like I'm crazy snoogins. Most Patriots fans were calling the Jets the worst team in the league this time last year. Talks of 3-5 wins. I said they would win 7-10 games and you all laughed. I just don't put much stock in the games they stole last year. I really don't. Geno Smith threw 12 TDs and 21 INTs man... You can only milk his game vs Atlanta for so long... He is worse than most backup QBs... I am not saying Decker/Johnson/Amaro are great adds.....but you also can't say they arn't improvements. If you want to take away 2 losses.....fine, while I disagree i'll do so for sake of the argument. That puts them at 6 wins last year. They are at least 1 win better.........and I think much more. 7 wins is a guarantee. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 21:18:26 GMT -5
Because for the 2nd time now, they have a far better roster than last season if Vegas is setting them at 5.5 (which they absolutely are not doing), they would lose a bundle Vegas has the over/under for the Jets at 7 right now... I'm banging the under... And that includes the Vick factor.. If the Jets floss 16 Geno Smith starts? I'm straight stealing money from the bookies... stealing it.. LOL Bang the Under Vegas keeps its doors open on guys that bet with their hearts |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 21:19:05 GMT -5
I just don't put much stock in the games they stole last year. I really don't. Geno Smith threw 12 TDs and 21 INTs man... You can only milk his game vs Atlanta for so long... He is worse than most backup QBs... I am not saying Decker/Johnson/Amaro are great adds.....but you also can't say they arn't improvements. If you want to take away 2 losses.....fine, while I disagree i'll do so for sake of the argument. That puts them at 6 wins last year. They are at least 1 win better.........and I think much more. 7 wins is a guarantee. So you are biting? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:19:59 GMT -5
Vegas has the over/under for the Jets at 7 right now... I'm banging the under... And that includes the Vick factor.. If the Jets floss 16 Geno Smith starts? I'm straight stealing money from the bookies... stealing it.. LOL Bang the Under Vegas keeps its doors open on guys that bet with their hearts Not sure that it's my heart that tells me that Geno Smith is piss-soaked shit... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 21:22:19 GMT -5
LOL Bang the Under Vegas keeps its doors open on guys that bet with their hearts Not sure that it's my heart that tells me that Geno Smith is piss-soaked shit... Right Fellani So he cant be worse than last season when they won 8 games The roster is far better, especially on offense where they needed it And if he is awful for 3 games tops, they without question have the best insurance at QB in the division, whether you like him or not That all adds up to less wins than last season, by 2 |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:22:22 GMT -5
I just don't put much stock in the games they stole last year. I really don't. Geno Smith threw 12 TDs and 21 INTs man... You can only milk his game vs Atlanta for so long... He is worse than most backup QBs... I am not saying Decker/Johnson/Amaro are great adds.....but you also can't say they arn't improvements. If you want to take away 2 losses.....fine, while I disagree i'll do so for sake of the argument. That puts them at 6 wins last year. They are at least 1 win better.........and I think much more. 7 wins is a guarantee. That's fine... where I come from, 7 wins isn't "doing damage this year"... |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 21:23:16 GMT -5
I am not saying Decker/Johnson/Amaro are great adds.....but you also can't say they arn't improvements. If you want to take away 2 losses.....fine, while I disagree i'll do so for sake of the argument. That puts them at 6 wins last year. They are at least 1 win better.........and I think much more. 7 wins is a guarantee. So you are biting? On that shit yeah. Not on the "if vick bla bla bla geno sucks" I'll talk Jets football all day, just be reasonable. |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 21:25:15 GMT -5
Vegas has the over/under for the Jets at 7 right now... I'm banging the under... And that includes the Vick factor.. If the Jets floss 16 Geno Smith starts? I'm straight stealing money from the bookies... stealing it.. LOL Bang the Under Vegas keeps its doors open on guys that bet with their hearts picture of the wager slip or all he is doing is talking out his ass. |
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 21:27:10 GMT -5
I am not saying Decker/Johnson/Amaro are great adds.....but you also can't say they arn't improvements. If you want to take away 2 losses.....fine, while I disagree i'll do so for sake of the argument. That puts them at 6 wins last year. They are at least 1 win better.........and I think much more. 7 wins is a guarantee. That's fine... where I come from, 7 wins isn't "doing damage this year"... So what are we arguing? I changed it to vegas seeing as you brought it up. Now you change it back. Vegas has it at 7.......bank it.......7 or more. As to my claim? Doing damage? Sure, I have some bias, but I also know what dominating defenses can do......and i think the Jets could have one this year. Companined with a great running game, similar to the jones/washington/greene combos........and a passing attack that I believe will be better than the AFCCG's, I do think they are a team that could do some damage this year. |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 21:27:18 GMT -5
LOL Bang the Under Vegas keeps its doors open on guys that bet with their hearts picture of the wager slip or all he is doing is talking out his ass. Nah playa...he's straight stealin benjamins yo |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:27:54 GMT -5
Not sure that it's my heart that tells me that Geno Smith is piss-soaked shit... Right Fellani So he cant be worse than last season when they won 8 games The roster is far better, especially on offense where they needed it And if he is awful for 3 games tops, they without question have the best insurance at QB in the division, whether you like him or not That all adds up to less wins than last season, by 2 I'm not ready to just add wins on to the total they had last year, "just because"... They were a 3 or 4 win team last year... They happened to end up with 8... I think the Jets suck massive dick... That's just my opinion... |
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 5, 2014 21:29:16 GMT -5
Right Fellani So he cant be worse than last season when they won 8 games The roster is far better, especially on offense where they needed it And if he is awful for 3 games tops, they without question have the best insurance at QB in the division, whether you like him or not That all adds up to less wins than last season, by 2 I'm not ready to just add wins on to the total they had last year, "just because"... They were a 3 or 4 win team last year... They happened to end up with 8... I think the Jets suck massive dick... That's just my opinion... Unfortunately that opinion is just automatic without any reasoning Its NY |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 21:29:18 GMT -5
jets/snoogs bet, or all jets football talk ends.
this shit needs to be made interesting somehow.
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Post by jets12 on Aug 5, 2014 21:31:12 GMT -5
Right Fellani So he cant be worse than last season when they won 8 games The roster is far better, especially on offense where they needed it And if he is awful for 3 games tops, they without question have the best insurance at QB in the division, whether you like him or not That all adds up to less wins than last season, by 2 I'm not ready to just add wins on to the total they had last year, "just because"... They were a 3 or 4 win team last year... They happened to end up with 8... I think the Jets suck massive dick...
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:31:31 GMT -5
That's fine... where I come from, 7 wins isn't "doing damage this year"... So what are we arguing? I changed it to vegas seeing as you brought it up. Now you change it back. Vegas has it at 7.......bank it.......7 or more. As to my claim? Doing damage? Sure, I have some bias, but I also know what dominating defenses can do......and i think the Jets could have one this year. Companined with a great running game, similar to the jones/washington/greene combos........and a passing attack that I believe will be better than the AFCCG's, I do think they are a team that could do some damage this year. Fair enough... I just disagree... I think the running game is below average, the QB is among the worst to play in years and the coach is a boob.... I got them at five wins this year... |
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Post by The Bag on Aug 5, 2014 21:32:57 GMT -5
So what are we arguing? I changed it to vegas seeing as you brought it up. Now you change it back. Vegas has it at 7.......bank it.......7 or more. As to my claim? Doing damage? Sure, I have some bias, but I also know what dominating defenses can do......and i think the Jets could have one this year. Companined with a great running game, similar to the jones/washington/greene combos........and a passing attack that I believe will be better than the AFCCG's, I do think they are a team that could do some damage this year. Fair enough... I just disagree... I think the running game is below average, the QB is among the worst to play in years and the coach is a boob.... I got them at five wins this year... chris johnson = "below average"? wtf |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Aug 5, 2014 21:33:13 GMT -5
I'm not ready to just add wins on to the total they had last year, "just because"... They were a 3 or 4 win team last year... They happened to end up with 8... I think the Jets suck massive dick...
That's just my opinion... we know you do, and that's why your first two lines are complete bullshit. "Patriots were a 14 team win last year if it wasn't for weather and the refs" - Same guy Why do you bother? |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Aug 5, 2014 21:33:31 GMT -5
I'm not ready to just add wins on to the total they had last year, "just because"... They were a 3 or 4 win team last year... They happened to end up with 8... I think the Jets suck massive dick... That's just my opinion... Unfortunately that opinion is just automatic without any reasoning Its NY "without any reasoning" So, the fact that I've said about half a dozen times "they have a QB with a 66 rating, 59% completion rate who threw almost double the INTs last year as TDs" and they have a group of running backs who barely average four yards a carry... "no reasoning" You're defending the Jets with "no reasoning"... I've made plenty of efforts to explain my reasoning... |
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