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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 10, 2014 19:56:46 GMT -5
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 10, 2014 19:58:09 GMT -5
Which hits the nail on the head and is my point. GM's sign/trade for players based on past performance or potential. Sometimes it works out, sometimes not. Cherington's moves worked out last year. This year, not so much. He's no more a bum this year than a genius last. Chappee likes to throw names of Yankee "busts" that Cashman should be held accountable for. Like he should know Beltran would have elbow chips or Tanaka (who he looked like a genius for signing before his injury) would hurt his arm. No different for Cherington who re-signed Napoli (based on last year) underperforming or signing Perzynski or Victorino getting hurt etc. No. You should only sign for what your future expectation is for the player. Yes track record is a part of it, but any decision to sign a player goes way beyond surface numbers these days. You have countless studies about the age curve overall and for each posistion. Truely every single contract a GM sign is just a calculated gamble. Because you can't predict what they will do. You can only go by your methods, scouting reports, analysis, common sense, and numbers to try and get the best bang for your buck. I don't think you can excuse a signing for someone as old as Beltran. Signing anyone that age, regardless of track record is higher risk.. I wouldn't consider the McCann signing a bad one. He is still young enough and his value comes a lot from his work behind the plate anyways. You really shouldn't expect a pull hitting catcher to hit for average. The Power should still be around and that is precisely why they signed him. Because his dead pull caters to Yankee Stadium.. I said basically the same thing in a lot less words. |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 10, 2014 19:58:48 GMT -5
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 10, 2014 20:07:44 GMT -5
Yeah but Pedroia's home runs are with heart and elbow grease.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 10, 2014 20:13:05 GMT -5
Final game of the season: Yankees win and they're in the playoffs. THEN does Girardi bat Jeter 8th?
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Post by JerzyJeff on Sept 10, 2014 20:13:57 GMT -5
Which hits the nail on the head and is my point. GM's sign/trade for players based on past performance or potential. Sometimes it works out, sometimes not. Cherington's moves worked out last year. This year, not so much. He's no more a bum this year than a genius last. Chappee likes to throw names of Yankee "busts" that Cashman should be held accountable for. Like he should know Beltran would have elbow chips or Tanaka (who he looked like a genius for signing before his injury) would hurt his arm. No different for Cherington who re-signed Napoli (based on last year) underperforming or signing Perzynski or Victorino getting hurt etc. No. You should only sign for what your future expectation is for the player. Yes track record is a part of it, but any decision to sign a player goes way beyond surface numbers these days. You have countless studies about the age curve overall and for each posistion. Truely every single contract a GM sign is just a calculated gamble. Because you can't predict what they will do. You can only go by your methods, scouting reports, analysis, common sense, and numbers to try and get the best bang for your buck. I don't think you can excuse a signing for someone as old as Beltran. Signing anyone that age, regardless of track record is higher risk.. I wouldn't consider the McCann signing a bad one. He is still young enough and his value comes a lot from his work behind the plate anyways. You really shouldn't expect a pull hitting catcher to hit for average. The Power should still be around and that is precisely why they signed him. Because his dead pull caters to Yankee Stadium.. Of course, more goes into it but they are getting a contract based on their track record with the expectation of it being repeated or improved upon and of course, the going price in the market. And it's all a crapshoot. As for Beltran, the Yanks needed offense. Their choices were few. They only wanted him for two years. They had to up it to three to keep him from signing elsewhere. Chances weren't good he'd finish it injury free but I don't think anyone could have predicted he'd have elbow bone chips. I think Ken Singleton was the last OF I remember getting DL'd with that....McCann was the best available catcher. The Yanks couldn't go through another year of Stewart/Cervelli/Romine. Won't fault Cashman for that signing. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Sept 10, 2014 20:14:27 GMT -5
Wow. Teixeira hit a triple. Guy can't score from second on a double. That must have been some hit.
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Post by JerzyJeff on Sept 10, 2014 20:19:59 GMT -5
Wow. Teixeira hit a triple. Guy can't score from second on a double. That must have been some hit. Somebody must have died in the OF. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 10, 2014 20:29:20 GMT -5
No. You should only sign for what your future expectation is for the player. Yes track record is a part of it, but any decision to sign a player goes way beyond surface numbers these days. You have countless studies about the age curve overall and for each posistion. Truely every single contract a GM sign is just a calculated gamble. Because you can't predict what they will do. You can only go by your methods, scouting reports, analysis, common sense, and numbers to try and get the best bang for your buck. I don't think you can excuse a signing for someone as old as Beltran. Signing anyone that age, regardless of track record is higher risk.. I wouldn't consider the McCann signing a bad one. He is still young enough and his value comes a lot from his work behind the plate anyways. You really shouldn't expect a pull hitting catcher to hit for average. The Power should still be around and that is precisely why they signed him. Because his dead pull caters to Yankee Stadium.. Of course, more goes into it but they are getting a contract based on their track record with the expectation of it being repeated or improved upon and of course, the going price in the market. And it's all a crapshoot. As for Beltran, the Yanks needed offense. Their choices were few. They only wanted him for two years. They had to up it to three to keep him from signing elsewhere. Chances weren't good he'd finish it injury free but I don't think anyone could have predicted he'd have elbow bone chips. I think Ken Singleton was the last OF I remember getting DL'd with that....McCann was the best available catcher. The Yanks couldn't go through another year of Stewart/Cervelli/Romine. Won't fault Cashman for that signing. He should have kept Russell Martin in the first place. |
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 10, 2014 22:24:43 GMT -5
Yankees had the Pavano disaster, but no one ever brings up Theo signing Clement
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 10, 2014 22:28:20 GMT -5
Yankees had the Pavano disaster, but no one ever brings up Theo signing Clement "Theo's a genius. Cashman just spends a lot of money" |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 10, 2014 22:53:54 GMT -5
Yankees had the Pavano disaster, but no one ever brings up Theo signing Clement He was terrible with free agents!! Renteria, Lugo, Smoltz, Penny, Crawford etc..., But he was great at the development side. Best guy to rebuild a farm system. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 12, 2014 7:56:12 GMT -5
Yankees have 2 weeks to jump 37 teams
Seems Doable
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 12, 2014 7:57:09 GMT -5
Yankees have 2 weeks to jump 37 teams Seems Doable Now that we have Chris Young it is! |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 12, 2014 8:12:01 GMT -5
$50 million and Arod to the Marlins this winter
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Post by pr0t0cl0wn on Sept 12, 2014 8:17:25 GMT -5
Trade him while he's hot! Trade deadline be damned!
A big game for Middlebrooks, who has been dreadful at the plate since returning from a fractured index finger. Dating back to August 1, Middlebrooks compiled a .427 OPS in 115 plate appearances entering Thursday. On the season, he's slashing .189/.257/.270.
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Post by redsoxworrld on Sept 12, 2014 8:29:21 GMT -5
Trade him while he's hot! Trade deadline be damned! A big game for Middlebrooks, who has been dreadful at the plate since returning from a fractured index finger. Dating back to August 1, Middlebrooks compiled a .427 OPS in 115 plate appearances entering Thursday. On the season, he's slashing .189/.257/.270. you see that stephen drew was 1 for his last 28 and JBJ got in the game yesterday..........clueless at the plate as usual |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 12, 2014 8:29:55 GMT -5
Trade him while he's hot! Trade deadline be damned! A big game for Middlebrooks, who has been dreadful at the plate since returning from a fractured index finger. Dating back to August 1, Middlebrooks compiled a .427 OPS in 115 plate appearances entering Thursday. On the season, he's slashing .189/.257/.270. you see that stephen drew was 1 for his last 28 and JBJ got in the game yesterday..........clueless at the plate as usual 1 for 28 is a hot streak for Stephen Drew |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Sept 12, 2014 8:55:23 GMT -5
Jeter after being hit on the elbow last night
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 12, 2014 8:56:50 GMT -5
"Dustins Surgery was as successful as we could imagine"
- Willy Wonka, MD
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Post by redsoxworrld on Sept 12, 2014 8:58:32 GMT -5
"Dustins Surgery was as successful as we could imagine" - Willy Wonka, MD CC Sabathia enjoying a nice steam after a strenuous rehab session  |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Sept 12, 2014 8:59:48 GMT -5
"Dustins Surgery was as successful as we could imagine" - Willy Wonka, MD Pedroia after reading dirt's post  |
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 12, 2014 9:06:06 GMT -5
"Dustins Surgery was as successful as we could imagine" - Willy Wonka, MD Awesome |
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Post by OXlodge on Sept 12, 2014 9:07:24 GMT -5
"Dustins Surgery was as successful as we could imagine" - Willy Wonka, MD Awesome I heard Pedroia is pissed that this information got leaked out. He's such a gamer. |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 12, 2014 9:42:24 GMT -5
Yup. Shut out on Derek Jeter day.
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 12, 2014 9:43:38 GMT -5
Yup. Shut out on Derek Jeter day. Walkoff by another brilliant Cashman signing |
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Post by Chappion on Sept 12, 2014 9:52:45 GMT -5
Yup. Shut out on Derek Jeter day. Walkoff by another brilliant Cashman signing Fantastic. Do you think they'll catch the Blue Jays or Indians for the crown of "7th best team in the AL" this year? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Sept 12, 2014 9:58:36 GMT -5
Walkoff by another brilliant Cashman signing Fantastic. Do you think they'll catch the Blue Jays or Indians for the crown of "7th best team in the AL" this year? Already Caught Whos Next? |
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Post by heatwave on Sept 12, 2014 12:48:13 GMT -5
Bluejays still have shot. Slim but still have a shot. If they can sweep tampa this weekend. Shit gets real interesting..
Lets go bluejays.. clap clap clap clap clap
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Post by Wayne Rooney on Sept 12, 2014 12:50:16 GMT -5
Bluejays still have shot. Slim but still have a shot. If they can sweep tampa this weekend. Shit gets real interesting.. Lets go bluejays.. clap clap clap clap clap Hopefully they pass the Royals |
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