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Post by heatwave on Jun 4, 2014 9:31:13 GMT -5
Translation.. when my team sucks ass and i really dont have a leg to stand on, i will resort to history to try and 1 up you ~ lil bo pete no translation.
I have ZERO faith that guys who have 10+ years of sucking and quitting are suddenly ALL putting it together for one magical run.
There is a reason that I can count the worst to first teams on 1 hand
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Post by heatwave on Jun 4, 2014 9:45:29 GMT -5
I agree we need another starter. But lets not make it seem Hutchison is not doing a really good job. And as much as i hate to say it. Happ has looked real good. And though the hitting gets all the pub (And rightfully so) the pitching staff is 2nd in the majors with wins by the starters The wins by starters ranking is a direct result of a dominant offense. When they start ranking high in ERA, WHIP and BAA then you will have something to brag about. Glad you mentioned it. The jays Starters 1st in wins 28-14 3rd in ERA 3.69 (only to oakland and Detroit) 5th in BAA .252 As i was saying.. the bats get lots of pub. But the starters have been very good. |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 9:54:06 GMT -5
I agree we need another starter. But lets not make it seem Hutchison is not doing a really good job. And as much as i hate to say it. Happ has looked real good. And though the hitting gets all the pub (And rightfully so) the pitching staff is 2nd in the majors with wins by the starters The wins by starters ranking is a direct result of a dominant offense. When they start ranking high in ERA, WHIP and BAA then you will have something to brag about. all that matters is they are winning they still have the only positive run differential in the division Buehrle isn't a fluke anymore. Derek Lowe won 15 plus games on year in Boston with almost a five ERA, so did Beckett, the offense carried them cant say the same about Buehrle, not sure it lasts, but he's the AL Cy Young winner right now and fuck you very much for making me praise the blue jays |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 10:05:16 GMT -5
The wins by starters ranking is a direct result of a dominant offense. When they start ranking high in ERA, WHIP and BAA then you will have something to brag about. all that matters is they are winning they still have the only positive run differential in the division Buehrle isn't a fluke anymore. Derek Lowe won 15 plus games on year in Boston with almost a five ERA, so did Beckett, the offense carried them cant say the same about Buehrle, not sure it lasts, but he's the AL Cy Young winner right now and fuck you very much for making me praise the blue jays Buehrle is the leader in the CY race? LOL. Not hardly. He has two wins more than Tanaka and Tanaka is destroying him in every other important statistical category. Buehrle might 3rd or 4th right now. Definitely not first. |
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Post by OXlodge on Jun 4, 2014 10:10:54 GMT -5
A guy with a 2-1 walk K/BB ratio is not the leader of the Cy Young.
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And Kluber leads the AL in Ks. Didnt see that one coming.
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:12:26 GMT -5
all that matters is they are winning they still have the only positive run differential in the division Buehrle isn't a fluke anymore. Derek Lowe won 15 plus games on year in Boston with almost a five ERA, so did Beckett, the offense carried them cant say the same about Buehrle, not sure it lasts, but he's the AL Cy Young winner right now and fuck you very much for making me praise the blue jays Buehrle is the leader in the CY race? LOL. Not hardly. He has two wins more than Tanaka and Tanaka is destroying him in every other important statistical category. Buehrle might 3rd or 4th right now. Definitely not first. Tanaka, I get but who else? third or fourth for a guy with 10 wins by June 1st? ERA barely above 2 and he's third or fourth in CY race? LOL indeed |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:13:32 GMT -5
A guy with a 2-1 walk K/BB ratio is not the leader of the Cy Young. Its Tanaka Felix And Kluber leads the AL in Ks. Didnt see that one coming. 10-1 , 2.10 era uh huh Tanaka, that can be argued |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:16:16 GMT -5
A guy with a 2-1 walk K/BB ratio is not the leader of the Cy Young. Its Tanaka Felix And Kluber leads the AL in Ks. Didnt see that one coming. 10-1 , 2.10 era uh huh Tanaka, that can be argued ok on king felix, didnt know he had 8 wins, buehrle has better ERA, Felix has better whip still put Buehrle at top of the list right now of the three, he is less likely to continue his season |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 4, 2014 10:16:49 GMT -5
all that matters is they are winning they still have the only positive run differential in the division Buehrle isn't a fluke anymore. Derek Lowe won 15 plus games on year in Boston with almost a five ERA, so did Beckett, the offense carried them cant say the same about Buehrle, not sure it lasts, but he's the AL Cy Young winner right now and fuck you very much for making me praise the blue jays Buehrle is the leader in the CY race? LOL. Not hardly. He has two wins more than Tanaka and Tanaka is destroying him in every other important statistical category. Buehrle might 3rd or 4th right now. Definitely not first. "but, he has 10 wins" -meatwave |
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Post by b1ake on Jun 4, 2014 10:17:34 GMT -5
When did Worrld become a Blue Jays fan?
Answer: When he looked at the standings.
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Post by heatwave on Jun 4, 2014 10:18:31 GMT -5
The wins by starters ranking is a direct result of a dominant offense. When they start ranking high in ERA, WHIP and BAA then you will have something to brag about. all that matters is they are winning they still have the only positive run differential in the division Buehrle isn't a fluke anymore. Derek Lowe won 15 plus games on year in Boston with almost a five ERA, so did Beckett, the offense carried them cant say the same about Buehrle, not sure it lasts, but he's the AL Cy Young winner right now and fuck you very much for making me praise the blue jays  welcome aboard |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 4, 2014 10:19:40 GMT -5
buerhle is 2nd in the AL in run support with 6.08
brings back the old argument i created on cbs tha pissed off CC loving fraudkee fans
"its easier to pitch with a lead"
buerhle is a fraud
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Post by JerzyJeff on Jun 4, 2014 10:20:16 GMT -5
10-1 , 2.10 era uh huh Tanaka, that can be argued ok on king felix, didnt know he had 8 wins, buehrle has better ERA, Felix has better whip still put Buehrle at top of the list right now of the three, he is less likely to continue his season Have to wonder if Tanaka won't start wearing down as the season goes on. He's been used to pitching on 6-7 days rest all year in Japan as opposed to every 5th day all season long here. |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:20:25 GMT -5
Buehrle is the leader in the CY race? LOL. Not hardly. He has two wins more than Tanaka and Tanaka is destroying him in every other important statistical category. Buehrle might 3rd or 4th right now. Definitely not first. "but, he has 10 wins" -meatwave 10 wins, 2.10 era, 1.19 WHIP, 4 less hits than innings how is that not right at top of Cy Young race right now? i dont get it it isnt like he's wild, he averages a little over 2 walks a game and isn't a power pitcher who racks up the Ks |
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Post by OXlodge on Jun 4, 2014 10:20:26 GMT -5
Buerhle's peripherals dont constitute him being the best pitcher in the AL. Felix is 8-1 with a 2.57 ERA 91ks 16BB. He also posts a better WHIP than Buerhle's. Buerhle's 46Ks and 20BBs. Which tells me he's more lucky than anything. I bet he has a funky BABIP.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jun 4, 2014 10:20:36 GMT -5
Let's let Tanaka start facing teams twice before we anoint him Cy Young, mmmm 'kay?
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:21:09 GMT -5
When did Worrld become a Blue Jays fan? Answer: When he looked at the standings. i'm a baseball fan how the hell can Buehrle be an "LOL!!! Cy Young leader? Really?" i don't get it |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:22:01 GMT -5
buerhle is 2nd in the AL in run support with 6.08 brings back the old argument i created on cbs tha pissed off CC loving fraudkee fans "its easier to pitch with a lead" buerhle is a fraud 2.10 era, you don't need a lot of run support with a 2 era he might be a fraud by the end of the season he aint right now |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 4, 2014 10:22:27 GMT -5
Let's let Tanaka start facing teams twice before we anoint him Cy Young, mmmm 'kay? what if he played for bostoronto? |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 4, 2014 10:23:21 GMT -5
buerhle is 2nd in the AL in run support with 6.08 brings back the old argument i created on cbs tha pissed off CC loving fraudkee fans "its easier to pitch with a lead" buerhle is a fraud 2.10 era, you don't need a lot of run support with a 2 era he might be a fraud by the end of the season he aint right now still easier to pitch with a lead which came first, the 2 ERA or the 6 runs of support? i say the 6 runs of support |
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Post by b1ake on Jun 4, 2014 10:26:27 GMT -5
When did Worrld become a Blue Jays fan? Answer: When he looked at the standings. i'm a baseball fan how the hell can Buehrle be an "LOL!!! Cy Young leader? Really?" i don't get it Me either. |
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Post by OXlodge on Jun 4, 2014 10:27:50 GMT -5
Opponents have a BA against Buerhle of .253 Tanaka.....218....Felix....229. Buherle is all luck.
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:29:36 GMT -5
2.10 era, you don't need a lot of run support with a 2 era he might be a fraud by the end of the season he aint right now still easier to pitch with a lead which came first, the 2 ERA or the 6 runs of support? i say the 6 runs of support no idea he's still CY Young front runner right now along |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 10:30:46 GMT -5
Buehrle is the leader in the CY race? LOL. Not hardly. He has two wins more than Tanaka and Tanaka is destroying him in every other important statistical category. Buehrle might 3rd or 4th right now. Definitely not first. Tanaka, I get but who else? third or fourth for a guy with 10 wins by June 1st? ERA barely above 2 and he's third or fourth in CY race? LOL indeed Hernandez and Darvish |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:30:57 GMT -5
Opponents have a BA against Buerhle of .253 Tanaka.....218....Felix....229. Buherle is all luck. he has less hits than innings, a 2.1 ERA, a 1.19 WHIP "all luck" oy vey i give up |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jun 4, 2014 10:31:06 GMT -5
still easier to pitch with a lead which came first, the 2 ERA or the 6 runs of support? i say the 6 runs of support no idea he's still CY Young front runner right now along only to those who value wins and ERA |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 10:31:16 GMT -5
Buerhle's peripherals dont constitute him being the best pitcher in the AL. Felix is 8-1 with a 2.57 ERA 91ks 16BB. He also posts a better WHIP than Buerhle's. Buerhle's 46Ks and 20BBs. Which tells me he's more lucky than anything. I bet he has a funky BABIP. He has career .290 BABIP against and current holds a .288 BABIP against. Try again. He will regress because he's Mark Buerhle, and start giving up more HRs again. But he has legitimately pitched great so far. I'm not gonna make a big deal about the peripherals of a guy who tries to paint all the corners and pitch to contact.. |
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Post by heatwave on Jun 4, 2014 10:31:49 GMT -5
Opponents have a BA against Buerhle of .253 Tanaka.....218....Felix....229. Buherle is all luck. Luck??? How about having one of the better defenses in the game to support a contact pitcher. Ever thought about that? |
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Post by redsoxworrld on Jun 4, 2014 10:31:50 GMT -5
you take it from here, Heat
i tried
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Post by JerzyJeff on Jun 4, 2014 10:32:43 GMT -5
Nasty.....Down? Is that you? No need. Reasons like this gave Felix the Cy Young award back a few years with a 13-12 record. Guy was their best offensive weapon. Yeah, I know. I remember when they were touting Nolan Ryan for the Cy Young for the same reasons when he had a 8-16 record for Houston back in the late 80's. |
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